Feb. 14, 2026

DON McLEAN MARKS 55TH ANNIVERSARY OF "AMERICAN PIE"

DON McLEAN MARKS 55TH ANNIVERSARY OF "AMERICAN PIE"

DON McLEAN MARKS THE 55TH ANNIVERSARY OF “AMERICAN PIE” AS THE SURF BALLROOM ANNOUNCES A 2027 LIFE SIZE BRONZE STATUE HONORING THE ICONIC SINGER SONGWRITER

Statue will be installed at the legendary venue where Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. “The Big Bopper” Richardson played their final show

CLEAR LAKE, Ia. (February 3, 2026) — Fifty five years after its release, Don McLean’s “American Pie” remains one of the most enduring anthems in American music — a sweeping, eight minute epic that captured a nation in transition and immortalized the phrase “the day the music died.” Today, as “American Pie” turns 55 (1971–2026), McLean is celebrating the milestone on tour while also helping propel a new chapter of preservation at the Surf Ballroom & Museum in Clear Lake, Iowa.

The Surf Ballroom — the National Historic Landmark where Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. “The Big Bopper” Richardson performed on February 2, 1959 as part of the Winter Dance Party tour — announced that a life size bronze statue honoring McLean will be erected on-site in 2027. The statue will stand as a permanent tribute to the songwriter whose work helped carry the story of that night into global cultural memory, bridging generations of listeners, historians and music fans.

The new statue is inspired from an existing life size bronze portrait created by acclaimed sculptor Zenos Frudakis (Philadelphia). Originally completed in 1989, the portrait was featured on the cover of McLean’s album ‘Classics’. Frudakis, an acclaimed portrait sculptor and lifelong friend of McLean, is known the world over for his statues of Muhammad Ali, Nina Simone, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, and many more. He is creating an entirely new statue for public display at the Surf, adding a new landmark for visitors to the historic ballroom and its adjacent museum experiences. 

The announcement comes on February 3 on the heels of the 2026 Winter Dance Party at the Surf — the anniversary of the 1959 plane crash that claimed the lives of Holly, Valens and Richardson — a date forever intertwined with McLean’s songwriting.

“The Buddy Holly Educational Foundation is thrilled that one of our most iconic ambassadors is being honored with a statue at The Surf Ballroom, the site of Buddy Holly’s final performance,” said Rick French, chairman of The Buddy Holly Educational Foundation and a national trustee of the famed Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. “While American Pie was famously inspired by the plane crash that claimed the lives of Buddy, Ritchie Valens and J.P. Richardson on February 3, 1959 , it has stood for more than half a century as an anthem to the cultural shifts of our country and is as relevant today as it has ever been.”

The Buddy Holly Educational Foundation (TBHEF) works to extend musical education — including songwriting, production, arranging, orchestration and performance — to new generations regardless of income or learning levels. The Foundation also supports emerging artists through mentoring and songwriting retreats, and its Ambassadors receive a replica of Buddy Holly’s own Gibson J 45 to encourage new music in his memory.

“To this day Don remains one of Maria Elena Holly’s closest friends and she was overjoyed to learn a statue is being cast in his honor,” added Peter Bradley, Jr., vice chairman of The Buddy Holly Educational Foundation, who is working closely with McLean, his management team and Jeff Nichols at the Surf Ballroom to plan a blockbuster unveiling of the statue upon completion.

First opened in 1933 (and rebuilt in 1948 after a fire), the Surf Ballroom continues to host concerts and special events year round and welcomes visitors to explore the site’s museum offerings. In recent years, the Surf expanded its educational mission with new immersive experiences honoring the artists and cultural moments that shaped early rock ’n’ roll — ensuring that the ‘Winter Dance Party’ story is preserved not only as history, but as a living, visitable place.

DON McLEAN 2026 TOUR DATES (SUBJECT TO CHANGE):
Fri, Feb 06 — Lobero Theatre — Santa Barbara, Calif.
Sat, Feb 07 — Saban Theatre — Beverly Hills, Calif.
Fri, Mar 20 — Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee — Immokalee, Fla.
Sat, Mar 21 — Maxwell C. King Center for the Performing Arts — Melbourne, Fla.
Sun, Mar 22 — Savannah Center — The Villages, Fla.
Mon, Mar 23 — Nancy and David Bilheimer Capitol Theatre — Clearwater, Fla.
Sat, May 16 — Honeywell Center — Wabash, Ind.
Fri, May 22 — Edmond Town Hall — Newton, Ct.
Thu, May 28 — Riviera Theatre — North Tonawanda, N.Y.
Fri, May 29 — Caesars Circus Maximus Theater — Atlantic City, N.J.
Sat, Jun 06 — Westgate Las Vegas Resort & Casino — Las Vegas, Nev.
Sat, Aug 01 — Murphy Theatre — Wilmington, Ohio
Sat, Aug 22 — Indiana State Fairgrounds & Event Center — Indianapolis, Ind.

For tickets and the latest updates, visit DonMcLean.com.

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for you young? I was how fucked to the day

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didn't you use it? I started singing bye bye this

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American Pie drol Machem.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio, And I'm here with

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our next guest who uh man, I'm very excited about

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because we're so brain and anniversary. I can't believe it

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like mixed me feel but uh here we have don McLean.

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How are you?

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I'm very well, thank you, happy to be here. Man.

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I can't believe it's been fifty five years of American Pie.

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I can't either. It's like, you know, my life is

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groundhog Day. I'm just.

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Sometimes that's not a bad thing, right.

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No, it isn't so as long as you own the

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property and you get paid, all right. It's a bad

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thing if you don't own it and everybody talks about

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it and somebody else owns it.

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There you go.

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So let me just start off with for those that

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don't know what led you to this song, For those

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that don't know the story.

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Well, first of all, for those that don't know the story,

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they need to see the movie The Day the Music

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Died the story of Don McLean's American Pie. And it's

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a documentary movie. It's more than an hour devoted entirely

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to this one soul and how I wrote it. You

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can see it on Amazon, you can see it on

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Paramount Plus, and if you like it a whole lot,

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you can buy it on Amazon. And I think it's

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worth having in your collection because it's very detailed. And

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in this documentary I go into the meaning of the

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lyrics as best I can, because there were things I

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just threw in. There was things that meant two things

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at once. There were all sorts of things. But I

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was trying to make get the feeling of forward movement

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in the song through a through a decade, and I succeeded,

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I think, in doing that. So you know what led

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me to it was that by the time I was

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singing with Pete Seeger on the Hudson in nineteen sixty eight,

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sixty nine, seventy in there, I had already decided that

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I wanted to do a big song about America, and

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so that's what led me to it.

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I love it, and you know, he has definitely said

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the test of time. For sure, people even.

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Today all you'd.

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Have to do is mention that song and they know it.

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There aren't many songs in history that hold that stature.

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I'm very proud of it, and I'm very happy that

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I was able to connect myself with Buddy Holly and

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Richie Allen's and the Big Bopper. I'm very happy that

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I was able to capture the sadness that I felt

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as a thirteen year old reading about that event in

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the newspaper. It stayed with me for years and years.

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So I just want to say that I really didn't

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know if I was ever going to do anything with it.

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You know, I just suddenly I did. So that's what happened.

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Well, and that's usually how it happens, isn't it. Like

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usually the things that happen in our life or especially

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in music, they just they just happen.

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You don't really like folks, Well.

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You know, most professional songwriters they write songs about, you know,

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one thing or another, and they do it on a

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pretty much daily basis. I won't write anything for months

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and then I'll come out with something. So I'm not

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like them. I'm not a professional in a sense. I'm

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sort of a dreamer and I make things up and

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I have little films in my head. I don't really

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read music. I do not really read music. I do

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not read music, and I cannot write it down, so

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it's all in my head.

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I love that because to me, that makes you a

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true artist. Like I think a lot of times when

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it comes to creating an kind art, whether it's writing

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a song, writing a book, thing like that, you have

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to be kind of in the vibe and it has

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to kind of come to you. Like I'm a published author.

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Why my books it took me six months. It took

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me six months to write the first half because I

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wrote the first half in like one day and then

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took six months off and then finished.

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Because you weren't ready to finish.

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It exactly exactly.

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You can't just if anybody the people that worked on deadlines,

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with the people that wrote those horrible songs for Elvis

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in his movies, that's the kind of people they are. Yeah,

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you know, you don't write something really good unless you

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really feel it and you grab that feeling. But you know,

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I've man, I don't know how I've managed to do it.

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I've still managed to make well over twenty studio albums,

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and there are live albums, and there are compilations with

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new stuff on there, and they're maybe two hundred songs

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I've written, and not the usual enormous amount. I mean,

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but every song matters to me, and I was very

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careful about the way I use words and the songs

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that I sing, because that's what I'm going to be

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remembered for, and it matters. You know, you can't be

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in a hurry just to do something you know that's

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no good.

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Oh absolutely, And you know the thing is too is

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it's got to come naturally, you know, so you can't

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really force it to me. And listening to what you're

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just saying, the first thing popped in my head was

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quality over quantity.

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You know, Well, there are people out there there, there

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are musicians who I will not name, who are very successful,

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who are able to spew out stuff and just always

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coming with a new album and it really it's it's

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it's not bad, it's not good. It's just what they

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do and they have a facility. But I know, I

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get the sense there's no not really a brain attached

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to it anymore. It's just, you know, I'll knock out

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something that I think people will like, and yeah, that

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kind of thing, and they do, they're very successful. I'm

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not going to mention who I'm talking about, but there

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are a lot of there are quite a few very

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successful substandard songwriters well.

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And I find it also comes with the times, because

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from the times of when you did American Pie, Okay,

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I tend to think, my opinion is there was a

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lot more to being a songwriter or a musician. It's

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like today they kind of use formulas, they do enough

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just to get by. I kind of look at as

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you're the type of songwriter that relates to somebody that's

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in school that strives always to get a's, and those

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other people you're talking about, they're happy to just pass

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the class.

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Well, you know when the old days in the seventies,

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now they really are the old days, right. If you

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walked into the studio, there were a lot of very

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good musicians there who had been on a lot of

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sessions and heard a lot of things, and so you're

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going to be presenting this music for them to play,

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and you don't want them rolling their eyes. Yeah, you

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know what I mean. Totally, it was a challenge, you know,

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to go in the studio and have this stuff. Most

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all the time I was a big because I was loaded,

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I had I had my dozen or fourteen songs ready,

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and they were all really good and different, and so

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the musicians would look forward to playing on my records

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because there was a you know, real music, and it

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was different.

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I love it.

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And different is a good key word there, because I

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think that's very, very important that it be different and unique.

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I think that's another comparison I find today compared to

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music in the seventies sixties.

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You know, it's like.

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Everything was kind of different than now. You find there's

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so many artists and so many music artists that a

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lot of them aren't doing the same thing. There's nothing unique.

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Well, I don't hear anything I can whistle.

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That's a good that's a good gauge right there.

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Yeah. If I can't whistle it, it it ain't music.

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Right that what a great gauge. I'd love that.

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And I don't hear anything. I really don't. I don't

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even know how kids remember this stuff because I can't

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whistle it. I could never sing it. But yet they

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seem to know what they're doing and they are loving

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it and it's their world and they're entitled to it.

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Well, you know what, I'm world right, And you know

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what I've found is by interviewing bands of today is

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that they have to kind from them, They have to

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appeal to the attention span of today, which people have

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the attention span of half of a goldfish.

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You know. Well, that's what's wrong all across the board,

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and that's the failure of get me started. Primarily education,

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which has been watered down into socializing social issues rather

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than learning your you know, parts of speech and math

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and memorizing things. Oh my god, the mind is not

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being asked to do very much, no, you know. I

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mean we had to have spend forever learning multiplication tables

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and all this stuff. No, they don't know that now,

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you know, just look at their phone.

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Listen.

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I can outdo math in my head of anybody holding

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a calculator, as most of us from that time in life,

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you know. And it's like I remember, even my kids,

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forget my grandkids, even my kids, like I used to upset,

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They're like, Dad, we need a calculator for school. I'm like,

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you're not allowed to have a calculator in school.

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Use your brain. No, the teacher said, it's required for.

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The Like well, I think the teachers wanted an easier job.

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Teaching was a very hard job in the old days. Yeah,

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they worked from the day that a minute they got

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into the morning until three in the afternoon. They were

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sweating and working and putting that chop dust all over

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them and writing stuff all over the board and you know,

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and all that and grading papers at night. Blah blah blah. Yeah.

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I don't know what's going on now, but I do

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know that we are dead last in about everything. So yeah,

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ever's going on, it's not working.

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And it's terrible that they take art out of schools too,

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because I think art is a huge part of education.

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How could you not, like I kind of imagine not

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growing up with art, you know, whatever form it was

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in school.

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I think, if I may say this, I think fizz

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ed is the most important thing they've let go, because

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the condition of young people is drastic, and it's bad.

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They have to be You've got to start climbing that

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rope to the top of the you know, the gym

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and doing a hundred pushups and they better started soon

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and dig into what they're eating. And oh lord, it's

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just gotten away from us so badly. And that's why

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so many of our young people now are coming down

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with the illnesses that were reserved for older folks. But

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you know, I was thinking about something, you know, going

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back just one hundred and forty years to the Civil War, right,

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we put into the Civil War on both sides because

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it was both of us North and South, millions of

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young men who were the best condition that a person

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could be in. And kill them all, and think of

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all the descendants who would be you know, prime physical

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specimens coming from that group of people. Just in the

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Civil War. Forget about Korea and Vietnam and all the rest,

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where we killed so many more of these a very

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able body, physically able and physically perfect people, leaving behind

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the ones who were defected. It's like these, especially these

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wars like Vietnam and all this stuff, like you know,

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Iran and Iraq which was a disaster, and all these others,

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we've purposely gone in and removed the best physical specimens

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from the gene pool. Yeah, for no reason. You know,

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it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And you'll never

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get that back because that has evolved over hundreds of years,

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you know, to get a person like that that's gone.

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never even thought of that the way you put that,

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and you're saying, and I'm going, oh my god, that

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makes so much sense.

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The people are not And then the idea, you know,

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of having a no fail kind of an environment in school,

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You got to fail, you know, you got to have

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that horrible feeling of being, you know, failing the test,

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and if it hurts enough, you make sure you don't

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have that feeling again, you know, and you work a

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little harder.

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believe you have to fail in order to succeed, and

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you know, you learn from those failures. And also if

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you're not failing, sometimes you're not really trying. Because sometimes

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when you try very hard, you fail, and that's how

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you get to where you need to be. You take

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somebody like Edison. Let you have like over one hundred

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failed inventions before he vented the light bulb. Today we

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wouldn't have light.

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Well, I understand this. You know. It's very hard, I

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know for me to break into the show business, and

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I never had any I never had any grand plans

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for myself. I just wanted to make a living. And

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I thought, if I was really good, you know, I

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as a singer, songwriter, performer, guitar player, banjo pick or whatever,

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that I could you know, learn to perform and you know,

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make a few dollars in nightclubs and have a little

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house maybe, And you know, so that was my goal.

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And the funny thing is that so many good things

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happened to me and I ended up becoming really very wealthy.

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But there are a lot of reasons why that happened.

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It wasn't accidental, and it wasn't automatic. It was because

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of me and the way I did things. But many

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many of the guys that I knew in the sixties,

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who were real popular in the folk world, if not

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in the rock and roll world, ended up homeless or destitute.

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Yeah, well, so what was it? What was it?

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Do you remember what that moment, I'm sure you do,

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that moment in time where you caught the bug for music.

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had I always had a beneficial effect on people when

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I would sing a song in school or wherever. And

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I think I just remember it now, and again my

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memory is faulty because you know, there are lots of

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other things that happened, but what sticks out in my

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mind is an age about eleven in nineteen fifty six,

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is when Elvis really broke through, seeing him on the

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front of TV Guide with you know, holding the guitar

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up and he had a red windbreaker and black pants

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and he had this Martin guitar. It was a a

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D eighteen. And I looked at that and I said,

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you know, if I could learn to play that thing,

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you know, I could do that, you know nice. And

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it was a very reasonable goal, you know, you know,

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it wasn't like you had to be a genius technology

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person or anything, just learn. So but here's the funny thing.

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So many interesting things happened to me. I happened to

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have in my neighborhood a guy who was the son

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of the announcer who was on the Dorsey program. So

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the announcer of the Dorsey program Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey,

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and they were the first ones to put Elvis on television.

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So this guy, the father of this friend of mine,

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had a sixteen millimeter film of Elvis singing you know,

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flip Flop fly or whatever the song was on Dorsey

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and he would put it down a big screen and

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he would run it and you could see like you

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could never ever see back in nineteen fifty six, a

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big screen version of this cat doing this thing. So

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my friend was also a musician, and I'll tell you

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a couple of things. So he said to me one day,

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because I was already now, I was completely in you know,

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I knew if I could learn to play this thing.

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I had it on my mind just a little bit.

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This is where I was headed, especially after seeing that

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huge film. So the son of the same man, his

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name was Brad. He said, I've got a guitar and

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I can play. And I said, no, you don't. I

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don't believe you. We were like twelve, you know. He said, well,

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come on over to my basement and I'll show you.

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It's like right out of you know, leave it to Beaver,

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which is like life.

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Was really right.

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So we go in his basement and there's this harmony

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guitar and he said, here's a chord. Play this E chord.

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He said, now play this chord A and this is

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a tough one. You use all your fingers B seventh.

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So I learned the first three chords on the guitar

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and I walked out of there knowing how to do that. Well,

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here's the funny thing. Recently, I've reconnected with him. His

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name is Brad and I've asked him a lot of

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questions about those days and his life and everything. This

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is forty fifty years later. And he said he was

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in the audience when Elvis came on stage at the

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Dorsey show and he said, you don't know this, but

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everyone started to laugh. They thought Elvis was a comedian.

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What do you think about that? Wow, Compared to everything

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else in the world, this cat doing what he was

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doing was hilarious.

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Wow.

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And the audience laughed and he said they thought he

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was a comedian.

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That's wild. I never even heard that story about it.

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Well, you won't ever hear about it.

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Because right, but he was there.

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Wow, And think about it, think about the comic aspect

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to Mick Jagger. Yeah, these people are hilariously funny, you know,

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Little Richard, you know, Chuck Berry. They're doing their thing.

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It's when they make the records and you start to

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live with the music they're making that it becomes a

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serious thing and then life changing. Right, you know, But

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if you just look at these people. I mean, I

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remember meeting working with the Jordanaires. I made two albums

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with them. I took them to England for a TV special.

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I took them to Carnegie Hall three or four times.

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I had hit records with them, crying since I don't

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have you castles in the air. These were hit records.

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And Ray Walker, who sang in the group, he sang bass.

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He said, the first time I met Little Richard, his

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face was painted purple. Now just stand back, and they

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didn't think about that for a second. A cat with

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a purple face who was singing tooty fruity, that's not funny.

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I don't know what it is that is. I'm like,

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think about it my head. I'm like, that's hilarious.

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But that's how far out these guys were, I mean,

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and those were the big ones. You know, you're not

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talking about screaming Jay Hawkins and some of these other

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guys that were, you know, completely crazy. So it's always

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been a crazy business, the music business, rock and roll

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side of it especially, but wonderful.

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So now is it crazy to you that in twenty

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twenty seven, Surf Ballroom is creating this life size ron

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statue honoring you, does that blow your mind or what it?

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Truly? It really does? You know, I'm really it's like

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I put myself in my own movie. I was a dreamer.

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Marilyn Monroe said a funny thing she said talking about

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all the showgirls that she started out with. You know,

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she said, we all dream, but I dreamed the hardest.

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And that's a very Marilyn remark, you know, but that's

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very true. I almost felt like I dreamed my way

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into having it happen.

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My mind is important, for sure.

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Something going on there because I knew exactly who I was,

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I knew exactly how I wanted to be. I knew

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exactly where I wanted to go, and I wasn't gonna

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stay stuck in folk music. I wasn't gonna stay stuck

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in anywhere. I was going to make my own music

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and do my own thing, especially on these records that

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I made. I knew that was the biggest opportunity of

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all to really fully explore the music that I was

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hearing in my head, not just with my limited skills

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as a guitarist or a five string manajo player. So

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I had my plan and I enacted it, and then

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it worked, and it all happened, and you know, the

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Surf Ballroom. They have contacted me a number of times

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and through the years and said, you know, we want

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to honor you somehow because of your song and what

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it meant to the legend of Buddy Holly that everyone

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now calls February third, the day the music died. And

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you know your music and you did this and we

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want to honor you and can we do And I said, well,

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I don't know. And so then I was talking with

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my friend Zenos for Dakas, who is the sculptor who

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is the premier sculptor really in the country, and he

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just finished a ten foot sculpture of Muhammad Ali in Lewiston, Maine,

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which you can you would see if you google Ali.

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He's a thousand sculptures up all over the world. And

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he said, I will do it for nothing if you

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want to, you know, find a home for it. And

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I said, well, I'll ask Peter Bradley, who's with the

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Buddy Holly Society, what he would think of asking this

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Surf ball Room if they'd like that. So they said, yes, no,

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there we do.

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There it is. That's how it happened. And listen, I mean.

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The Buddy Holly Educational Foundation. Like even they're like super

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thrilled that you're getting this statue because you're so closely taught.

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You know, I found out some things because to me,

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Buddy looks like a cowboy. You know, he's tall, text

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you look good in the saddle. He was very pro Texas,

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you know, he was like, don't mess with Texas type

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of a guy.

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I wouldn't have even thought of that.

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Yeah, he was, though I've learned about that from people.

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He was very much a Texan and proud of it.

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And Gully there's it's really hard to imagine anyone more

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of a babe in the woods than Buddy was. Really.

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There's a very interesting YouTube conversation with Buddy and Decca Records,

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which you can call up at some time and listen.

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You can listen to what it's on YouTube, and Buddy

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is he's been dropped by the label and he's talking

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to a VP or an important guy. And you can

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tell this guy is New York. He's sharp, he's a

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slick operator, and Buddy is not. You know, Buddy is

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very simple country boy, a genius of course, and it's

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an interesting phone conversation because Buddy is figuring he's all

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finished since Decca Records dropped him, and he's asking if

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he could get the records and sell them in Texas,

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you know, on the road, and it's, oh, no, no,

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what about the the other songs that I made that

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00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.759
you haven't put out? What's going to happen to them?

428
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.119
Maybe I can, No, no, nobody, We're gonna put those

429
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out later. Of course, he died and then they became

430
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:55.680
number one. But Buddy, if you if you listen to

431
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.720
the Chirping Crickets record or the first record or those earlier,

432
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.240
really there were just those two or three. He's really

433
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.319
playing with the crickets and it's all just very clean,

434
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.799
very simple, magical, brilliant, untouchable rock and roll of the

435
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:16.359
first order for the first time ever. Later on he's

436
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.359
working with strings and you know, on the Buddy Holly's

437
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:26.880
Story it doesn't matter anymore, and Moon Dreams and Reining

438
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.559
in My Heart, Oh my god, these were such beautiful

439
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.119
songs he sang. He was such a great singer, and

440
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:37.880
he had these wonderful stringer ranges. Bink, don't think, don't think,

441
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.799
don't think, don't think. That's a long way away. From

442
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:47.920
the crickets. So Buddy Holly was very experimental, you know,

443
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.400
he was trying new things even though he was only

444
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.359
twenty two when he finally took that tour. And he

445
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:01.599
took that tour because his money was being held up

446
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.480
from him so he wouldn't receive the money he was owed,

447
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.359
and he had a wife with a child on the way,

448
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:08.960
so he had to go on the road and take

449
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:15.519
this cockam amy tour that he took. So it's it's

450
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.960
not a good story in that sense. Because he was

451
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living in New York and writing these songs in his apartment.

452
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.279
We all know that now, and they they were gotten

453
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.839
hold of by Norman Petty, who did a very good

454
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:34.599
job of putting other instrumentation on those records and making

455
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.839
the Buddy Holly Story Volume two, which is a wonderful record.

456
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.000
You know, cry and wait and hoping. That's all right?

457
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.519
You know all these songs now we're one. Ain't that

458
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:53.240
that makes it tough? Peggy Sue got married and he did.

459
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.960
They did a good job on that one. Just a

460
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:03.960
brilliant artist, a brilliant, wonderful, wonderful artist who I don't

461
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:09.400
think was treated very well and who managed to. But

462
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.160
you know, none of the great rock and roll stars,

463
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.799
and even all of them except for Elvis because he

464
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:21.720
had the great manager, they were all on small, little labels.

465
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.599
You know. The Everly Brothers are on Cadence Records, was

466
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.000
owned by Archie Bleier, who was married to one of

467
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.160
the Cordetts, and the Cordets recorded for Cadence. Cadence the

468
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.759
Sky must have made an ortionin because the Everly Brothers.

469
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:40.279
Everybody had ever these Brothers records. The albums were magnificent,

470
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.039
the records, the recordings of songs. I mean, these guys

471
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.680
were right up there with Elvis Presley and they were

472
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:50.480
on this little, you know, diddlely shit record company Cadence,

473
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:58.200
and Buddy was on Brunswick, which was a very low label,

474
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:05.640
discount label, almost with Decca Records. So you know, Little

475
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.160
Richard was on specialty records. And you just look at

476
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.839
look at some of your hits, you know, and you'll

477
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:14.480
see these crazy record companies that popped up, you know,

478
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.880
in order to get this great music out there. But yeah,

479
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:23.200
there were no major labels except for RCA for Elvis Presley,

480
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.359
and RCA was like a bank. They made sure there

481
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.839
was never an empty seat, not that there would be

482
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.119
in an Elvis concert.

483
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:40.119
Well, it's amazing, like the life you've lived in this

484
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.319
industry and the people you've been around. I don't even

485
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.279
know if people realize how iconic that is. And you're

486
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:48.799
one of those icons.

487
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.920
Thank you very much. I'm and I'm also a very

488
00:32:52.920 --> 00:33:00.200
interested observer that I mean. Right. I remember there was

489
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.039
a guy named I'm gonna I'm gonna malign him right now,

490
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.640
but his name. He was the head of United Artist Records,

491
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.400
and his name was Mike Stewart. And Mike Stewart was

492
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.799
importantly guy and he had been the he had been

493
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:20.240
the road manager for the Golden Gate Gospel Quartet, you know,

494
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.079
and so he rode manage these cats and he managed

495
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.440
to work his way up. And there's this story. My

496
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.680
friend Joel Dorn told me. He's there in the office,

497
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.000
it's the end of the day and they're bringing in

498
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.559
hookers for him to look at. Which one he wants.

499
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:42.160
That was the music business. I think that one, that

500
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.000
one there, that one's nice. I like her. Yeah, that

501
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:44.400
got on.

502
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.599
I don't think that's changed much either.

503
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.480
Well, Ben, yeah, but but the truth is out. The

504
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.599
cats out of the bag in those days, people were

505
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.880
supposedly had morality, but you know it was a morality.

506
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.559
I'm not making any judgments, but it's just very funny story.

507
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:01.920
Yeah, totally.

508
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.960
Well, I love these stories and I could talk to

509
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:11.039
you all day, and man, it's just amazing fifty five

510
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.440
years and I can't wait to see this bronze statue

511
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.159
myself when it finally goes up, because man, I don't

512
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.280
even know what that would feel like if somebody was

513
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.320
making me a bronze statue like that.

514
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.960
That's that makes it all worthwhile, doesn't it.

515
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:32.480
Well, I've got a wonderful friend in Zenos, who'se who's

516
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.239
doing this for nothing. That's how much he wants to

517
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:35.960
see it happen.

518
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:36.840
Wow.

519
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:43.199
And you know, I hope that that other musicians, you know,

520
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.519
some of these billionaire artists that are out there that oh, buddy,

521
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.320
Holly a lot. You know, we want to put up

522
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.639
a few hundred thousand and maybe get some others, get

523
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.960
the statues up of the primary people, and that would

524
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.960
make it a beautiful thing. And you know a Dr

525
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.480
Dion Diona Belmonts, he was on that tour. Waylon Jennings

526
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.159
was on that tour, So it could be quite an

527
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.079
interesting sculpture garden over the years. If they make an

528
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.119
effort to do that in the future.

529
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.480
They should because that is a great idea. Well, do

530
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.920
you have a final words for our listeners, so we

531
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.119
don't keep you here all day.

532
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.239
No, I'm just very excited about everything I'm doing, and

533
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.159
there's so many things. I have two children's books out,

534
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.440
one is Vincent, the other's American Pie of Fable. We

535
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.679
have the documentary. They're still talking about a Broadway show.

536
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.559
Can you see American Pie right up there? And you

537
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.800
know all these it's basically the same story that's in

538
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.840
the movie about my journey and using a lot of

539
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.280
songs of mine. So that's in the works. And there's

540
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.960
a company that's affiliated with Sony that put out my

541
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:08.840
last album, American Boys. They're releasing more than twenty of

542
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.719
my albums on CD and vinyl. These are albums that

543
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.599
I own because I own almost everything. I own all

544
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.360
my songs and all my owner control all the albums

545
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.440
I've made. So there's a lot of stuff going on

546
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.400
for me, and I'm very fortunate and thankful.

547
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.239
I think it's amazing and artists like you at this

548
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:39.880
stage is still extremely active, extremely relevant, and I thank

549
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.079
you for being an inspiration to so many artists through

550
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.920
these all these years and all these decades.

551
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.960
And thank you for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

552
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.960
I enjoyed it very much and I get by with

553
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.599
a lot of help from my friends. So that's all

554
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:57.360
I have to say.

555
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.000
There you go, love it, Bye bye.

556
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.960
Hi. This is Don McClain and you're listening to the

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Pipeman on W four c Y Radio. Thank you for

558
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:21.840
listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on W for c

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u I Radio.