Nov. 26, 2025

GREYSTONE CANYON are back and Pay Tribute to Thin Lizzy

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GREYSTONE CANYON are back!

Greystone Canyon pay tribute to the legendary Thin Lizzy with their new single “Suicide” Recorded live together in one room, the track captures the raw energy, warmth, and honesty of real rock’n’roll - no tricks, no clicks, just pure tone and feel.

Stream “Suicide” on all digital platforms! https://lnk.to/S1C1D3

Music video: https://youtu.be/VLNaHClXKc0?si=0-oU8X7h-vIfzSMS

Social media reels: https://f.io/XyQSIDhY https://f.io/c3dlsvcQ

Their new album “Something Borrowed…Something New” will be released worldwide on December 5th, 2025 via Rockshots Records! Following the acclaimed Iron & Oak (2024) the Australian rockers return with their most authentic and energetic record yet. Recorded 100% live in the studio, "Something Borrowed… Something New" blends brand-new Greystone Canyon originals with reimagined classics from Led Zeppelin, UFO, ZZ Top, Neil Young, and Thin Lizzy - a celebration of rock in its purest, rawest form.

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Hi, you love them too, dear censure, Wow, pray you

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you don't do so? Here on the Avengers Fight n

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W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited. Why

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because ray Stone Canyon they're back. They're back, and I

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really dig what we're going to talk about. There's a

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couple of new songs I really dig. But let's bring

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on Darren onto the show. How are you? Thanks very

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much for having me on very well.

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As we discussed before we just started, it's my birthday today.

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Bet on it to be here on the show and

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talking about something that I'm.

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Very passionate about, which is music. And I think I

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have something here in my toolbox that is so you

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just made me think that's so appropriate for a situation.

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If I still have it, and I'm going to find

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it at some point, I may play it if I

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find it, but I'm gonna say happy birthday. And I

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have to say, Okay, the newest single I know about

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is the Thinzzi one, but I also went and listened

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to another one that wasn't in what was sent to me,

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and I thought that was badass too, because I absolutely

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love UFO. Oh my god, that was so killer. The

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UFO song Okay, so everybody knows you have a new

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album come now. But there are some covers on there

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that are really cold. There's original music too, but you know,

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there's some cool covers. I can't wait to I didn't

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get to hear it yet. I can't wait to hear

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the Immigrant song. Oh yeah, that's one of my favorite

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Zeppelin songs. But I do have to say the minute

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I turned on Suicide, I was like, kinda hell, does

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he sound so much like film?

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Oh well, that's a huge compliment that if I give

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you a little backstory to this album, like this is

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our third album. As you pointed out, there are cover

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tunes and your original songs. Each of the band members

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chose to cover song that we thought kind of fitted

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the DNA of Greystone Canyon and that we could do

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a reasonable job on the Other reason that we did

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covers and originals is we wanted to try recording this

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album live, so all into one room, no click tracks,

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no studio trickery, just looking at one another, amps cranked

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up real drums, and we weren't sure sonically how the

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album would turn out, so rather than risk all of

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our new original songs on something that could have gone

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the other way, mix and covers up and it would

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be maybe a low stakes affair, something like Metallica's Garage

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Days or Van Halen's Diving Down.

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It's so funny you said that, because the minute you

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started talking about on Lake thinking listen, Metallica still does covers.

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I really enjoy those. It's kind of you can hear.

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You can hear that the band's having fun, and that's

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really we wanted. Like the previous two albums for us,

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they've done well, they sound great, but the last one

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it was such a laborious task to bring them together

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and it wasn't you know, like the end result was great,

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we're happy with, but it was exactly a walk in

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the park to do it.

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So we thought we'd try and change it up, and

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that's what.

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We've done here. And really, I know your listeners are

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the ones.

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That will be the judge, but for us, it was

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a blast and we think you can feel that when

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you hear it, that we're having fun.

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See, that's so important in my opinion, because first of all,

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if you're not having fun, how am I having fun? Okay?

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Second all, like I'm just gonna be blunt. This industry sucks.

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So like the most fun part is the making and

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playing music. If that's not fun, it's the wrong industry

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to be in.

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Yeah, you've and you know, music and business have always

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been at odds with one another.

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They're strange bedfellows.

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So just take the business right out of it, make it.

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About music, have fun, and hopefully that comes across, you know, hopefully,

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you know, like it's like when you're at a party,

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if you're the guy that's smiling and laughing, like people

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want to gravitate towards that.

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They're like, you know, I want to be a part

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of that.

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If you're open in the corner and you know, people

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are like, oh, I'm not going near that dude. He's

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a Debbie Downer, no doubt. That's that's you know that

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that's how we approach this. And you know, I think

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even sonically it's turned out great. What what we may

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not have in perfection and precision, we've made up within

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passion and attitude.

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So like, you know, like that important.

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Yeah, like the seventies records, the seventies and eighties records

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that we really love, That's how most of those records

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were made, you know, just all the guys in the one.

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Room, playing off the floor, not using.

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Tons of overdubs, just just keep it natural and like

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you know, a band having fun.

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Well that's fine because one of things I thought of

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in my mind before doing an a in reviewer way

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one to bring up whereas you mean, some humans are

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in a room playing music together. What a concept? Who

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thought of that?

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And it's so strange to me even when I'm saying

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these things out aloud, as it's kind of everything that

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we grew up on.

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That's how it was done.

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But a long yeah, everything changed, you know, and I

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don't know, things definitely became more sterile.

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And also with no budgets to make.

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Music anymore, like you said, you know, the industry, it's

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just it sucks. Well, you may as well not chase

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that carrot because there is no budget to make Welcome

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to My Nightmare or a Pink Floyd the Wall. There's

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no budget to do that anymore. So you might as

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well go the other route and kind of strip it

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down and just make a really good organic record.

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And I think when you're all in a room, the

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music sounds different because when you're doing different places you're

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not connected to have that cohesive sound, you know, and

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you're not feeding off putting chart And there's something to

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be said about real like talk about Zeppelin, Like Achilles

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Last Stand. Everybody thinks that was just a great robber

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plant screaming voice, when really he was screaming agony and

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pain from the car accident, you know, but it turns

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out to be like one of the best screams ever.

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Yeah, what a fantastic song, you know, I mean right

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if you or your listeners a you know, speaking of

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Zeppelin and the way they made records, the Rick Biado,

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who is just an endless knowledge of music production theory,

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et cetera, et cetera. You know, he got all the

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bottom tracks and like you can't quantize those drums, if if,

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if you stop putting that kind of music to a click,

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it takes the human feel out, it takes it takes the.

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Whole vibe and journey of these songs away.

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And nowadays people are making records and you know, the

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drums aren't done on the same day as the guitar

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or you know, everyone's done their own parts in a

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home studio somewhere else, and they're not they're not even.

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Closely, And how are you getting into it? Like as

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a musician, Like if you're playing by yourself, how are

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you getting into it? Like, yes, it's still fun to play,

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but there's something to be said. It's no different Dan.

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If I listen to a song and and they cut

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everything out except one instrument or just the vocals, it's

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stunt the scene.

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Yeah, it it's it's definitely where we're in a time

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now where everybody's got home recording equipment, uh and and

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even the big studios, everybody's just doing everything digital and

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editing it, but we're not really seeing, you know, the

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results that are coming out.

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Where's the cut through?

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Where is the next where is the next ac DC?

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Where is the next Metallic?

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Where is the next Van Halen or Jimi Hendrix or

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you know any of these guys.

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It's just it might be an easy way.

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To record in and a budget way to make music

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and albums, but it's not adding to the depth of

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music legacy that we already have.

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And that's the shay.

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Yeah, totally. And you know, there's something be said about

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the realness and the rawness of not overproducing everything and

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mistakes happen like nobody's perfect. And you know you mentioned

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Van Halen. One of my favorite memories ever, of like

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thousands and thousands of gigs I've been to in my lifetime,

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was at the nineteen eighty three US Festival heavy Metal Day,

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which was weird because Triumph late on heavy Metal Day.

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You can imagine if you had a heavy metal Day

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today and that was the band. But Van Hallin was

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the headliner of heavy Metal Day. And so they're starting

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to play, ain't talking about love and Eddie is looking

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over at Dave because he's not singing, and then Dave,

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the consummate like one of the greatest frontmen ever in

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my opinion, three hundred thousand people, and he just says

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on the mic, I fucking forgot the words and they

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all and they all and he was he wasn't even

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joking either, but the whole place roared like the best

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thing ever happened. Was that the biggest applause of the

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whole day, you know, because he forgot the words and

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that was even better typical Diamond Dave. There was one

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person in the crowd that echoed them, and that what

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can He turned to that one person and he pointing

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at me he goes, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend.

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Oh yeah, that's favorous, right, and how cool is that

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compared to today Today? If the band fucks up, it's

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usually because the band are trying to play along to

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backing tracks, right that they missed the arrangement up and

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now the vocals are out of sync with the music.

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You can't just pick that up.

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It's kind of like, you know, talk about a vibe killer,

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like if a singer just forgets some words and you go, hey,

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fuck it, you know, like, yeah, we're all in the

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moment together, two three, four, we go again. But when

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it's all sync the whole shows, you know, like backing

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tracks and sink blights.

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Yeah, well, like Phil.

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At Field says that live shows, he goes, come on, guys,

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sing it with me, talking to the irons, because sometimes

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I forget the mers.

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You know, and you've got to give it to someone

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like James, Like he's playing really long shows.

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They're they're touring. You know, the amount of dates that

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a band like that does.

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When we talk about vocalists who you know, maybe need

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need backing tapes to fulfill touring commitments, there's so many

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shows and the voice just on only last so long.

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That is a different discussion. But yeah, head off to James.

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So that that's that would be a herculean task, right,

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And now you take the other side of that. There's

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bands today that cancel shows because there are laptops were working. Yeah, yeah,

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I remember that.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's I mean, there's some really great

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setups like that, and they've all got the in ears.

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So when someone comes to see their rehearsal, you can

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only hear drums.

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through in its.

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Man, you've you've just sucked the life out of everything here.

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It's our motto was especially going into this album, was

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everything needs to be moving here, you know. And at

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the same time that the guitars, the bass, the drums,

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the vocals, it's all got to be pushing air, real

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air in the same room. Just put some microphones well

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placed and capture the sound of this room.

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That's that's the way it should be, you know. It's

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like even doing stuff like this, Okay, there are times

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that I'll tell my engineer if he's adding an interview

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or something like don't take the ums out because you know,

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if it's too polish, it's not really interesting the people. Yeah,

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it's been.

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Doctored and it's fake.

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And in a world full of fake shit, you we

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wanted to believe that sports and music were some of

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the last truly real anything can happen.

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But then you know, business starts to get their claws

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into that.

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So maybe they want the band to do more dates

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than they're capable of, so they've got to use backing

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tracks for whatever reason, or just that they suck, I

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don't know. And games in sports that corrupted to get

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people to throw games. I mean, you know, we need

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something real, right, We've got to have something that's just human.

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And here's what I love. Okay, do you know the

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band Bad Flower? No? I don't, so check them out

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because they're really good. But they do a lot of

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festivals here in the US. And one of the festivals

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one giant. The singer he had Laryn Jacob, so he

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still came out and performed, and he plays guitar, so

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he was playing guitar, but he told the audience, I

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have Laren j Vis. I'm not allowed to sing. Can

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all of you sing for me? And they did their

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whole set, didn't cancel anything, and I think it was

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one of the best gigs they ever had because the

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whole place would sing in every song.

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It's a bad ass. And I mean that stuff happens

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right like in in.

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Unlike unlike sports, where if it's a team sport, you

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might have an injury and you can, you know, you

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can bring in a replacement.

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Because it's part of the team.

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But music doesn't really have that, you know, like no,

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it's even the theater, I guess as understudies for maybe

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the main roles. But you know, in music, because you're

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paying not just to hear the performance or as you'd

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see a tribute bad you're paying to see the person. Yeah,

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I thought, if you're going to see Wasp, will it

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better be Blackie law Is singing. If you're going to

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see Metallica, it better be James Hepfield singing. And I mean,

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like you said, well if they're and they just fess

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up and say hey, And I mean on that point

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them we had that ere Slayer came out with Megadeath

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some years ago and Tom.

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Had some horrendous ear infection.

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He could hardly stand up, but he had no voice,

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they played, he didn't sing. Guys from the support bands

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jumped up and all did a song each. Some people

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from the audience got up and sne You know, the

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band would have been like, well, we got through it.

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It's hardly going to be the crowning achievement.

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But the show goes on, right, That's what they say. Yeah,

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the I time and bad situation would be is like say,

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if Mustaine was his voice and they put Hatfield in

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the thing for him, he may not be happy about that.

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Hey that's well, that'll get plenty of coverage. That will right,

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He's getting enough coverage out of putting Ride the Lightning on.

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The new Oh. I can't wait to hear what that

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sounds like, because I mean I was aving Theatallica's first

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show ever, so I actually that Mustine in Metallica, and

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I love Mustine. You know, I love Metallica too, but

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I love Mustine and like he did partially wrte that song.

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So I'm looking forward to hear it because even like

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I loved the Four Horsemen, but the mechanics, like that's.

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That's the real thrash song is the mechanics, you know,

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so you can't you can't imagine James Hetfield singing those

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lyrics right, the mechanics lyrics.

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Like Mustane always had that he like loved you to death.

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He always he touched on those wake Up Dead, you know,

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like the relationship type stuff and Metallica in.

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Those early abums.

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They they wouldn't touch that with it, you know, with

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a yardstick. No, I'm a Mustane guy too. Then I

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used to work for road Runner Records.

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And in Australia.

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Prior to that, Sanctuary Records in the UK.

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So I got to work with Dave on a few

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albums just as a marketing guy.

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What what A what a hob work or what a

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you know?

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Pitched so weird because you know the whole thing that

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if there's like a spirit or something, you get chills.

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I just got chills because you know about Michelle Kerr, right.

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Yes I do.

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Yeah, and obviously a US rep UK, she was UK,

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but she passed away last year.

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I knew her pretty well and I got chills when

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you were talking about road Runner because I was thinking

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I thought about her. It was funny because that's one

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of the festivals. I do media coverage for Bloodstock in

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the UK, which she she was the pr person for that,

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and so machine Head was playing and he did this

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like whole tribute to her, like on stage at the

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fest of all It was the most badass thing. I

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walked up to him like a month later at another

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festival in the US auns just like, what was it?

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Ladder than Life? I think I just walked up film

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I was like, hey, I just wanted to say that

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was a pretty badass thing he did. Day came to

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Michelle and shook his hand and walked away because it

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was it was so cool, you know. So it's so funny.

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It's like road Runner Records is everywhere.

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Yeah, Like I mean, weren't they just they.

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Were really the brand for metal music and they were

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maybe the bigger of the independence. You know, if you

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were on road Runner when they come out with Merciful Fate,

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Annihilator and then that whole first wave of death metal.

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I think the earlier Bitchery Records were road Runner and

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then the whole ninety sing with Fear Factory.

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Machine Head sept to her, YadA YadA, YadA, whatnot.

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Yeah, Well that's yeah, that's another story.

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Ily met Michelle the once when she came out for

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sound Wave out here in Australia and I was still

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working for road Runner and she was out here looking

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after Machinehead.

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Yeah, you know, it was funny. You'll love this. He

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was saying that she was a bat. This is his

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this is exact word, a badass bitch, and she could

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drink any guy under the table. He said. There were

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a few times I'm like, no, no, Michelle, I got

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a cap out. I'm done. You got me.

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I look off.

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It's a tough industry to be in, full stop, but

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it's a tougher.

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Industry for a woman, for sure, and for her to

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make that mark on the world that she made, because

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there isn't anybody you can talk to in this industry

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that doesn't know her. It's kind. And she was like,

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she was very helpful to me too, Like I came

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over and I was covering Bloodstock and I'm there for

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a first time a few years back, and she was

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hooking me up with interviews with bands and stuff like

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helping me out and like just amazing, you know, And

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there's so many amazing people that were from Roadrunners. So

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it's very cool to me to learn that you were

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at Roadrunner too.

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Yeah, yeah, well that's that's six degrees of separation or

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maybe in the music industry on the one degree line right.

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Right, totally. So, yeah, you have the new album, something Borrowed,

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something new? Are we getting married?

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Uh?

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It's going to be released worldwide December fifth on rock

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Shots Records. Who I guys say that record label. There's

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so many bands I interviewed from that record label, So

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who knows. Maybe they're this this decade version of Roadrunner.

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Roberta who runs Rockshots.

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You know he's.

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I think I think the Roadrunner business model is it

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is something he looks up to, like from its heyday anyway.

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And something that Roberto always says that's very different to

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a lot of other labels is he's not interested in

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signing a band that's been around for twenty five years.

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On other labels, it's an easy sell. He wants to

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find new bands.

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So and is I think our his.

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Label only started maybe eight years ago, and our new

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album is going to be the two hundred and thirty

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sixth release or something like that.

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I only know that because of the catalog.

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DD two three six, But I mean, so that's how

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many That's how many albums he's been putting out, and

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he just he's just passionate.

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About the music.

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You know, it's not about oh, this band's already sold

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this many on this label, or this band's got one

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hundred thousand followers on their Facebook page.

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Heat's just looking for music. And that's that's pretty refreshing

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in this day and age. Oh I love that because

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I was managing an artist a while back and I

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had a connection with Sonny Records, and their first question

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wasn't you know seventy to music? It was how many

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Instagram followers does she out? Yeah, they didn't even know

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what she sounded like yet. Yeah, that's so ridiculous to me. Yeah,

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I'm sorry, but I.

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Mean that that is that is the business side over

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the music side, because they're just looking for an easy sell.

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If you know, an artist.

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Already has cultivated one hundred thousand fans or fifty thousand fans,

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whatever the case might be, an audience there for them

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to sell to. They don't have to they don't have

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to go out there and market hard to win over everything.

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And really that's that's the art side, you know, that's

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the music side of businesses.

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That creating the art that's going to resonate with people.

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So yeah, you know, Rockshots have been great to us.

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This is this is album number three, Nice Something Borrowed,

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something New, Like you said that that we thought that

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fitted well with its part covers, it's part originals, the Something.

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I love it. It's such a brilliant name, and that.

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The album cover has a small boy sitting with some

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big old headphones on in front of a stereo with

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a stack of vinyl, you know, And that's that's that's

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how I grew up, when you weren't tied to a computer,

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you were just you know, in the moment, losing yourself

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in the music. So we tried to everything about this record,

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the way we recorded it, the format with the covers

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and the originals, the outlook.

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We just tried to tie the whole thing together into this.

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Very honest, very honest vision of where we're at right now.

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I love it because you know, I do see the

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picture of the cover which is behind me here, and

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I remember like I would. Okay, So I lived in

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La during the eighties scene. Okay, I grew up in

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Jersey and my dad moved me to LA in nineteen

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nine eighty. What a time to move La. So I

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was like the start of it all, Okay, I was

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you mentioned Blackie? Like I remember so clearly going to

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a show on Halloween in uh Bec. It was eighty

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one or eighty two and it was Wasp, Armored Saint,

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and this band Headshaker, who they never survived, but like,

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I'm still close friends with Armored Saint to this day.

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I used to be good friends with Chris Holmes from Waston.

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We used to go to the mall together. And you know,

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I used to go to this record store in the

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valley called OZ Records. I told this story quite often

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nowadays because it seems to come up and this is

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appropriate with what you're saying is and I had a

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friend that was a record store clerk there, and me

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and my friends we would go there and he would

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show us these albums of bands, and that's how I

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discovered most of the bands. Like he would just say, here,

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you need to listen to this, and I like today

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where you couldn't listen to it first, you had to

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buy it, spend your hard earned money buying it, and

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you listened to it over and over again, no matter what,

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and you sat I used to sit on the balcony

454
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with my headphones on look at all the artwork, read

455
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:58.119
the lyrics, all that stuff, and you know, it makes

456
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.240
a difference in like that show I was talking out

457
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.200
with was I saw a picture of them an armored

458
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:08.039
Saint in the magazine where and I'm like, oh that

459
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.240
show because of the way they looked, you know. Well

460
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.720
that record store clerk also turned out he had a

461
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:19.039
record label, so a lot of bands that he was

462
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:27.720
showing us were bands he was handling. That was Brian Slagel. Oh, Brian, Okay, Yeah,

463
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.240
Like several years back, I saw him at some event

464
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.440
that we were both going around, like, you know, you

465
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.960
were actually pretty brilliant back then, what a brilliant marketing plan.

466
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.160
And he's so humble, he's like, he goes.

467
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.880
I was just a record store clerk, you know, And

468
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.599
that's really what it was. It was just like the scene.

469
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.440
I think that's what kids are missing today, Like we

470
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:58.160
were like this community and like tape trading, you.

471
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:03.079
Know, and I think guys like Brian and Johnny Z

472
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.440
from Mega Force, like they were just guys that were

473
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.839
so passionate about music and there weren't labels, Like there

474
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:15.759
weren't outlets or vehicles for that type of music to

475
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.279
travel through and they became those vehicles.

476
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:18.480
You know.

477
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:19.400
They were like, well.

478
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.119
If I can't if I can't help this band get signed,

479
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:29.000
you know, to Geffen or polygor or whatever music for Nations,

480
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.519
well I'll start my own bootique label and put stuff out.

481
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.480
And you know, yeah, God bless them, like it's amazing.

482
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.599
If it weren't for those two people you just mentioned,

483
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.960
there might not be metal today, and there may not yet,

484
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.119
and there definitely wouldn't be metallica today because.

485
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.240
It would it would definitely be a lot different that

486
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.799
the metal landscape would be very different without guys such

487
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.880
as those two. Yeah, for sure, no doubt, no doubt so.

488
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.799
And I look at rock Records that's today.

489
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.240
You can put Monty Connor into that list as well,

490
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.039
because I mean the guy that started road Runner, it

491
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.079
was a Dutch guy and it was never intended to

492
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.000
be a heavy metal label. They just hired this young

493
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.039
guy that was written in a radio show, Monty Connor,

494
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.960
and he was getting all these demos. He signed Merciful Fate,

495
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.160
he signed the side, he signed Fear Factory.

496
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.079
You know, they're all his signings.

497
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:32.960
I mean he you know, Roadrunner doesn't even have a

498
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.079
metal it's not like Metal Blade Records. Roadrunner Records could

499
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.839
have been a dance Labe, could have been.

500
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.319
Monty Connor.

501
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.319
He was the A and R guy and he came

502
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.440
up with that roster and then all of a sudden,

503
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.039
by default he's branded it.

504
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.480
It's like, well, this is a home of heavy.

505
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:54.839
Metal, right It's wild how it worked out, But now

506
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:58.440
we are. That has all led to today and this

507
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.000
new music that you have that everybody has to listen to.

508
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.200
Maybe if it weren't for a road Runner, we wouldn't

509
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.519
be talking today and you wouldn't have a new album

510
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:12.680
right now. That's well, there you go, And so tell

511
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.160
everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials,

512
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.079
on the web, how they can get the new album,

513
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.240
went drops, buy merch all that good stuff.

514
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.759
You can follow us on Facebook, Greystone Canyon on Instagram.

515
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:30.160
The album's available everywhere, whether it's a streaming platform that's

516
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.920
you're preferred, or you want the physical copies. They're available

517
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:39.839
on Amazon in the States through MVD. I mean, you

518
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.480
only have to google Graystone Canyon and click shopping and

519
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:49.119
there'll be a whatever you're preferred, whatever your preferred way

520
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:50.880
of purchasing is or listening.

521
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.680
You know, it's all out there. We have a current single, which,

522
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.720
as you mentioned.

523
00:30:55.480 --> 00:31:00.519
Dan, is the cover of Thin Lizzie's Suicide. It's racked

524
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.039
up eighty thousand views in its first way to please

525
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.160
tell on YouTube and check that out. We have a

526
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.759
second single dropping this week, which is an original song

527
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:16.440
called Stealing Our Freedom and I do believe Dan, We'll

528
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.720
be doing a video for immigrant song The Lad's.

529
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.359
Up Nice and you know what I love too, Okay.

530
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.559
I think this is the difference between metal from our

531
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.359
day and metal now. If you asked Tom of Slayer

532
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.400
who his influences were, he didn't even know what metal

533
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:42.039
was till Slayer, Okay, like one of the most profound

534
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:46.480
voices in metal. Like he wasn't a metal head at all,

535
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.960
you know, And there's so many that were like that,

536
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.799
and we all came from the same thing. Like, Okay,

537
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.799
we talked about Zeppelin, we talked about UFO, then Lizzie.

538
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.599
But then you're also doing a cover of a Neil

539
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.400
Young song. I mean that's freaking amazing because I love

540
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.319
nil Ya that that.

541
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.839
Was really broad about, Like it was really broad about.

542
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.759
By the lyrics of that song, that the whole the

543
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.079
whole meaning of this album, Like I said, the organic

544
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.279
way that we approached it, the cover, the combining covers

545
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.680
with original songs to.

546
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.160
See how they sit side by side.

547
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.079
The lyrics to Neil Young's Hey, Hey, My My, into

548
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.119
the Black, So we've done an acoustic version of that

549
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.160
and it's it's darker.

550
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.599
It's nice, but you know that was that was a

551
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.799
lot of fun to do. And there is an.

552
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.359
Animated video coming out for that one, so yeah, watch.

553
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:45.599
Out for that.

554
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.599
It is. It's an interesting listen for sure, the new album,

555
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.440
So I hope people could check it out and you know,

556
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:59.240
enjoy our reinterpretations of these covers and some new Graystone

557
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.519
Canyon original songs.

558
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.400
Well, and that's I like the way you put the

559
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:08.480
reinterpretation because I think that, like even with Mantawka, there's

560
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.440
so many covers that they do that nobody knows it's

561
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.880
a cover because they make it their own and a

562
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.680
lot of dance. But it's like I always laugh because

563
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:24.720
people always come to me and tell me that Nine

564
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.680
Inch Nails covered this song by Johnny Cash called Hurt. Yeah,

565
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.960
it's the other way around, yeah, exactly, But that that

566
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:37.119
says so much though, because it says that, you know,

567
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.759
Johnny made his own interpretation to where he you would

568
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.000
think it's an original, you would think it's a Johnny

569
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.599
Cash song when he does it, it doesn't sound like

570
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.839
a nine inch nail song.

571
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.000
No, that was such a clever movement. I think that

572
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.799
was Rick Rubens doing. Yeah, that is a great example.

573
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.559
And I mean, you know, that could be said about

574
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.920
maybe Marilyn Manson's version of Sweet Dreams.

575
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.559
That's it. You know, they took a pop song that

576
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.199
was played on the radio and turned it.

577
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:17.280
Into this really dark, industrial, you know, kind of chaotic.

578
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:17.679
Morbid song.

579
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.119
I would say that covers that we have done, they've

580
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.760
remained faithful for the most part.

581
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.360
We didn't want to change them too much.

582
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.280
And the Neil Young one is probably the one that's well,

583
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:31.519
it's definitely the one that's.

584
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.079
The most different to the original. Well, and like I said,

585
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.400
you did sound you know, just like Phil So I mean,

586
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.320
and that just that brought me right in right there,

587
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.039
because that's the other tough thing when you're doing covers

588
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.199
is you know, it's tough to try to sound like

589
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.920
them and do it better because they're original, or to

590
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.960
even do it the same. Have mad respect for bands

591
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.079
like yours that can take a song like that and

592
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.880
you still have the familiarity of the song itself. Yeah,

593
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:12.320
the people that played.

594
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:13.679
It thank you very much.

595
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.920
I think most of the time with the vocal, you know,

596
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.239
especially when you're doing different covers, it's it's pointless to

597
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.599
try and impersonate people. But you need to put yourself

598
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.320
into it and it needs to sound. It needs to

599
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.760
sit well and it needs to sound genuine. Yeah, you

600
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.360
can get those two things, you know, like pretty much

601
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.559
on point, the song will come across. And you know,

602
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.039
we keep referencing Metallica doing covers, look at all the

603
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.119
different bands from Nick cave To.

604
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:50.760
About the Beatles, Yeah, that the whole beginning of the

605
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:55.320
Beatles was covers pretty much sure, and people think that

606
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.119
was their songs. There's so many Beatles songs that people

607
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.480
think it was their song. I mean, cover or original.

608
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.519
The publishing matters, that matters, but I mean to the listener,

609
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.039
it doesn't really matter as long as it's still a

610
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:13.639
good song.

611
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:15.280
Yeah, if you take if you.

612
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.880
Take someone else's song, I'm not saying you taking it

613
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.800
making it better, but if a good song is a

614
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.800
good song, and if you do it justice it will

615
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:23.840
still be a good song.

616
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:24.960
There it is.

617
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.840
You know, there's a million variables to that, but I think,

618
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.960
in a nutshell.

619
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.679
There it is. So I guess one of my final

620
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.039
questions is how do you keep doing this? Like I

621
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.880
always wonder that with artists, like after you've been doing

622
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.960
it for so long, can you keep coming up with

623
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:48.000
new material and original music. It's like I think about that,

624
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.239
and I'm just in awe of artists that can do that.

625
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:56.519
It's it's just total inspiration, you know, And and inspiration.

626
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:57.880
Is all around us all the time.

627
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.239
I guess the great thing about music now, even though

628
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.679
we're saying, you know, the music industry sucks, but we're

629
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.400
not looking for the next trend now. Most of the

630
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.119
time we're looking backwards and digging into catalogs.

631
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:12.639
So you're just.

632
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.719
Endlessly inspired by maybe something that's been around for fifty

633
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.519
years but you haven't heard it before.

634
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.159
So it's just that endless inspiration.

635
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.960
It's also for me personally a little bit about the

636
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:33.840
continued musical growth. Like I had some music theory lessons

637
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.360
a few years ago. I knew music theory, but I

638
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.679
wanted to know more, and that creeps into your playing

639
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.519
and you're writing and you just start or you just

640
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:45.840
keep expanding, you know.

641
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.199
That's how it is. That's how it is for me.

642
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.119
It doesn't mean everything. You're right, it's going to be

643
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.559
better than the last. But you know, it's like cooking.

644
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.280
You might keep reinventing your dish, but your wife might say, hey,

645
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.480
it's not as good as last night's dish.

646
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.159
But it doesn't doesn't mean you don't stop trying. Just

647
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.159
take right.

648
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.119
And I think it gets harder and harder, doesn't it.

649
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.880
Like so I think as you get more and more

650
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:17.719
into you know, into your calog like it, it has

651
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.880
to get harder to try to outdo yourself. And not

652
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.679
because of any other reason, but like if you got

653
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.639
ten albums as an example, to try to outdo all

654
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.159
ten of those albums opposed to trying to outdo the

655
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.840
first album and with the second one, man, it's gonna

656
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:43.159
be tough. Yeah, I mean, I think it depends what

657
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.920
you mean by outdo.

658
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.639
I think when people get really caught up in the

659
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.000
music business, outdo means.

660
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.480
Out sell, you know, and I don't think of it

661
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:53.519
that way, but yeah, I.

662
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.039
See that, Well, that's out That's how libels would be

663
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.559
looking at it. You know, you creatively, you might feel

664
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.920
that you've surpassed everything that you've ever done. But if

665
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:08.840
it isn't embraced by critics and fans, it's deemed as well, you.

666
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.000
Know, it's an underachiever.

667
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:16.199
Yeah. So, and a lot of the times when you

668
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.159
say out do, if outdo does mean popularity in sales,

669
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.960
you might have to dumb something right down, so you're

670
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.239
really not out doing it, you're underdoing it.

671
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.159
And to me, the how and to me, the outdoing

672
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.000
as any artists or like what I do or anything

673
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:36.599
is like you're always trying. You're in competition with yourself.

674
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.840
It has nothing to do with anything else. And because

675
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.800
we are our own worst critics. Like you know, I

676
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.840
can't tell you how many times I've gotten off an

677
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.760
air review and the artist was like, man, I was

678
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.840
like the best interview I've ever had, and I'm thinking,

679
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.719
my head, really that kind of sucked. I kind of sucked,

680
00:39:59.320 --> 00:39:59.480
you know.

681
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.599
But where you know, we're doing this out of a passion, right, yeah,

682
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.960
And I think that's where you can separate yourself from

683
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:18.360
that trying to outdo anything, because if you're passionate about it,

684
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.800
you know the paths that you're going down chasing that

685
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.760
passion might change and you can't.

686
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:24.280
Compare the two.

687
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:29.000
It's just it's it's another interview or another song, and

688
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:34.159
you know, if we've enjoyed it, fantastic, it's.

689
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:39.440
Yeah, no doubt. And yeah, as you you know, get

690
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.360
more experience at the craft, get better at the craft.

691
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:48.159
You know, I think as an artist, you know, you

692
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:50.519
do go down different paths, Like you're not going to

693
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.840
write the same stuff you did when you were fifteen

694
00:40:53.800 --> 00:41:00.360
because different experiences and outlooks and perceptions and all that gain.

695
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.800
We're going back to that. You know.

696
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.480
Maybe the industry sucks, but I keep using that as

697
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.599
a juxtaposition for a positive. Is whilst all of these

698
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.159
little independent labels like the one I'm with getting our

699
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.440
music out to people, they're not controlling us.

700
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:18.639
You know, I love it.

701
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.639
You can put out anything you want that no one's

702
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.000
saying the song's got to be three minutes, the song's

703
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.119
got to be one hundred and ten bpm, the song's

704
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.920
can't have an intro that goes longer than fifty You

705
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.760
can do whatever.

706
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.199
Like so if we choose to try and write, you know.

707
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.840
One song that's maybe a bit instant and a bit

708
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.159
of a toe tabot could be a you know, it

709
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.559
could be an instant.

710
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:44.880
Hits or favorite songs, or you.

711
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.119
Want to write a twelve minute epic or a whole

712
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:48.480
album of twelve minute epics.

713
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.679
No one's telling you you can't wear I love that biz.

714
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:56.599
It's controlled. You know, if someone's pouring loads of money

715
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:59.960
I eat a label into a producer to make this record,

716
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.639
well they're going to want to oversee it.

717
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:03.840
That may be.

718
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.599
That may be difficult for a creative person. I wouldn't

719
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.599
know about that because we're just kind of we're just

720
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.440
you know, we're independent band.

721
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:14.920
We can just do whatever we want.

722
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.239
I remember in the eighties on the Sunset Strip sitting

723
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.920
backstage with some of those bands and watching the record

724
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.559
labels telling them how their music had to be from

725
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:25.559
now on, how they had the dress from now on,

726
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.880
and I was like, this is bullshit. I actually left

727
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.039
the whole scene because of that, because I was like,

728
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:32.760
I don't want to eat part of this. So I

729
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.880
love hearing about today artists like you and talking about

730
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:41.440
having the freedom because my whole viewpoint is let the

731
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:44.840
business people do their business stuff and let the artists

732
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.559
do the creative stuff.

733
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.079
Absolutely, And look, I'll be honest.

734
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.280
In our league, the stakes are fairly low, you know.

735
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:57.239
Like I mean, if on this album we sell a

736
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:03.159
few thousand copies and and the videos get half a

737
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.360
million views or something, that's a big win for us.

738
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.639
But in the grand scheme of things, that's it's just

739
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:08.800
it's small.

740
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.480
But it's important to us to to create the best

741
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.840
music we can and their role in it, i either labels,

742
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.960
is to get it to as many people as they can,

743
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.679
and if we both do our job, it's a win.

744
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.719
You know. We don't have to be on top of

745
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:25.400
the world or on top of the mountain. We're just

746
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.800
here doing what we love and that's working.

747
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.760
That's the key right there, because at the end of

748
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:38.280
the day, that is the true key to life is

749
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.960
just being happy and passionate about what you do. Because

750
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.360
if you spend your whole life hating your job or

751
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.760
what you do, what good is it? What good is

752
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:50.360
the money?

753
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:51.039
What goodness?

754
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.320
The success? It's a waste.

755
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:58.360
It's you know, Yeah, there's no read through on this thing.

756
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.840
We're just here on the journey and you better make

757
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:01.960
every moment count.

758
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:04.559
I was fortunate enough.

759
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:05.800
I'll give you a little story.

760
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.039
I was fortunate enough to play guitar on the last

761
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.760
Paul Deiano tour, who as you knows, Wow.

762
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.760
I'm tall all on Team Giano. Killers is one of

763
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:16.599
my favorite album.

764
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.960
I got to do this the last Australian tour with

765
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:21.960
Paul Deano.

766
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.960
We're playing Killers and I made him self titled in

767
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.159
its entirety. Man Ever since he was out of Iron Maiden,

768
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.960
which is like nineteen eighty one, he never really made

769
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.719
any money, but he never stopped being passionate about music.

770
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.159
You know, like he's passed away now, God rest his soul.

771
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:47.519
But it just goes to show even decades since he'd

772
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.840
had the success going out and playing club shows to

773
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.920
people sing it along to Running Free and fanom of

774
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.440
the Opera and Rothschild, and he had the biggest grin

775
00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.360
on his face and he was in a wheelchair and

776
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:04.039
you know, inconsiderable pain most of the time. But his

777
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:10.199
spirit for doing it was was just it wasn't I

778
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:10.599
love it?

779
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.639
Oh, I love it. It's like Ozzie too. Like I

780
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:20.199
knew Ozzie was going to go out after that, because,

781
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.960
like I said, for years when they Sharon was talking

782
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.440
about him retiring and I'm like, if he stops performing live,

783
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.960
he will die because he lives for that. Like he

784
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.199
just lived for it. And all he had to do

785
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:41.719
is see the look on his face at that back

786
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:46.199
to the beginning, and he went out on his own

787
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.960
terms for sure, because that was like probably one of

788
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.719
the best trimes with his life that night.

789
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.000
That that is so amazing.

790
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.440
It got to happen too, because I mean, imagine if

791
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.159
that had been a couple of weeks later, it wouldn't

792
00:45:58.199 --> 00:45:58.719
have happened.

793
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.039
I think I think he purposely stayed alive. He was like,

794
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.639
screw you, I'm not going till I do this show.

795
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:10.320
I believe that too.

796
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.480
And you know, watching the watching the footage of him

797
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:17.079
desperately trying to get up out of that chip, because.

798
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.039
Oh my god, oh my god, that was getting to

799
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.719
me right there, because I've seen Ozzy every year since

800
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.880
nineteen eighty. I saw Ozzie with Randy Rhodes and like,

801
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.559
I was there he did. There was this festival called

802
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.280
Moonstock several years back, like right before the pandemic, where

803
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.920
we had that total eclipse throughout the whole world. It

804
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.360
was like one of the biggest ones and it was

805
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.719
at the epicenter of it, and he was performing Bark

806
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.760
at the Moon during the solar eclipse, and I got

807
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.440
to shoot it, Like I'm not normally a photographer, but

808
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.239
they give me a photo pass and I was standing

809
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.639
right under him shooting him. I have the pictures like that.

810
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:06.760
They're amazing that it looked like it was dark out

811
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.960
when it was daytime because the soar eclipse, and just

812
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.519
an amazing experience. And like you think about all the

813
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.320
things that he's done in all these years, and how

814
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.320
amazing is it too that he got kicked out of Sabbath,

815
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:26.760
thought it was the end of the world, and he

816
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.719
ended up bigger than he ever would have been in Sabbath.

817
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.960
It's such a triumph on so many levels, Like Sharon

818
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:41.920
Ossie as attained, Yeah, against the odds, that first lineup

819
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.760
that he had in those first two records, Like how

820
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.559
special they were in not only for his career, but

821
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:53.519
the evolution of hard rock and heavy metal and just guitar,

822
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.000
and then that every guitarist.

823
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:01.760
That they managed to find was just this like it's like, how.

824
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.800
Can you you know you think all there's only one

825
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.719
Eddie van Haylend, and you know, of course there is

826
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.440
only one Eddie van Halend, but you go for Randy

827
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.039
Rhodes to Jakie Lee to Zach Wilde.

828
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.000
It's like, what's like, well, not only that, okay, think

829
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.880
about in one year. In one year I saw Ozzie

830
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.800
play with Randy Rhodes and then he had for a

831
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:28.400
short stint filling in Pat Travers after Benny Rhodsi and

832
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:35.719
then Brad Gillith Gillis like, like how many musicians this

833
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:40.599
man has collected through the years, and then the final

834
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.360
album all the people he was singing songs with like

835
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.440
Elton John and like just amazing.

836
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:54.800
Yeah, absolutely, what a fantastic career, what a huge life,

837
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:59.960
Like that's a life well and never to be replaced,

838
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.679
never to be forgotten. I mean it's it's fairy tale stuff,

839
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:13.159
you know, no doubt. Yeah, huge, huge influence and huge

840
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.639
part of my life too, Like, yeah, amazing.

841
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.599
And this new album that's very tale stuff too. Everybody's

842
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:26.079
got to buy it. You're your new album. You know,

843
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.800
they can't borrow it either, they gotta get it new.

844
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.159
Yeah, well, I mean honestly, like, listen to it, let

845
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.679
contact us, let us know what you think, share it

846
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.039
around and yeah, dang, that's that's the best mate.

847
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.159
That's a that's a nice plug there. Thank you very much,

848
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:47.000
you got it.

849
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:47.400
Yeah.

850
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.239
They final words for our listeners.

851
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:54.039
No, I really appreciate the opportunity you're talking to me

852
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.440
in sunny Melbourne, Australia, gray Stone Canyon. We're all just

853
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.679
about honesty and integra and tipping your hat to the

854
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.880
legacy of everything that's hard rocking heavy metal and just

855
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.400
just be safe and you know, keep.

856
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:08.920
Love in life.

857
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.320
Love it you guys rock. I love what I've heard

858
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.559
off the new album. I can't wait till the rest

859
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.519
of it comes out. And thanks for being on the

860
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:19.639
Adventures of paint Man.

861
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.280
Hey, this is Darren Cherry from Graystone Canyon on the

862
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.119
Adventures of the Pipe Man.

863
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.559
Thank you very much for having me and God.

864
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:29.000
Bless you all.

865
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:33.960
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pate Man.

866
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.000
I'm w for CUI Radio.