May 25, 2026

Hillbilly Vegas Release New Album A La Mode - PipemanRadio Interview

Hillbilly Vegas Release New Album A La Mode - PipemanRadio Interview
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Oklahoma based HILLBILLY VEGAS are a high energy southern rock band that mixes outlaw country with a healthy dose of the blues. Originally formed in 2011, the band has been steadily building a global fan-base through successful songs at rock radio, backed up by constant touring in the US, Canada, the UK and Europe – as well as playing major NASCAR events, music festivals and huge bike rallies. The band is influenced by classic rock legends like Bad Company, Free, and ZZ Top, with modern sensibilities - steeped in soul and American roots music.

- Album Focus track is “Miss America” (Track 1)

- The band has just released a song written by and Featuring Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee Paul Rodgers (Bad Company, Free, The Firm, Queen) – “Mr. Midnight” (Listen Here): https://open.spotify.com/track/6UfpBRla79Z0H06YawYJ00?si=bf071aa6ea654fe9

- Lead Singer Steve Harris could talk about the long road from playing bars and state fairs in Oklahoma, to sharing the stage with Rock and Country stars including Blackberry Smoke, The Kentucky Headhunters, Ted Nugent and Wolfsbane; along with country icons Alabama, Lee Brice, Travis Tritt, Blake Shelton, and Wynonna Judd.

- Steve has a wide variety of interests: He makes his own jewelry, is a member of the Cherokee nation, is an adventurous eater/foodie, and actively works to support military veterans through an organization called Operation Vet NOW.

- The band has added some Rock ‘N Roll pedigree: Geraldo Dominelli - Guitar/Keyboards is formerly of Loverboy/Paul Rodgers band, and Todd Ronning - Bass was formerly with Bad Company.

- They are managed by David Spero (Joe Walsh, Cat Stevens/Yusef Islam, Bad Company, Former Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Board Of Trustees and Senior Program Director).

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This is the tite man here on the Adventures Man

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Why Radio.

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I'm here with our next guest to h and they

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have some killer music. We're going to talk about their

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new album. And you know, we're lucky to have them

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today because they're in Oklahoma, kind of like it is

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here in Florida. We're supposed to talk to them the

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other day and Mother Nature would not have that happen.

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So now Mother Nature is happy both of us because

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neither one of us have any storms, which is very rare,

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especially here in Florida. I mean, we have a storm

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three to four o'clock. You can set your clock by

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it from April till November every day. So we're blessed

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today to have Steve Harris from Hillbilly Vegas on the

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show How are You Hey?

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I'm doing good? How are you good? Good?

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And I love the name of your new album too

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a La mode as somebody who is a chocoholic and

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sugar addict like that. That's the first day I think

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of it, like that's a pretty sweet band.

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That's right, that's that's what it's all about, you know,

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we did. I did a French magazine interview the other

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day and they wanted to know because to them, it

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means something totally different. Well, yeah, me, it means you

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see somebody coming around as the ice cream on top

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of your pie.

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So those are good times, so load out like, I

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love that too, you know, when you have different languages

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and different things have different meanings to them.

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Yeah, you know.

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I got laughed at once because our studio up until recently,

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for like eighteen years was in Wellington, Florida, which is

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a big equestrian community, and we had somebody that did

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show on our station. They were Argentinians, and they were

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talking about the whole equestrian stuff, and they would come

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into the studio and they'd have like this green herb

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that they were doing stuff with. And I heard them

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talking and I thought they said mata, which in Spanish

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in Mexican Spanish means pot. But really what they were

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saying was Monday, which is this Argentinian herb that they

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make tea out of that they drink like all day long.

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So they were preparing us and they laughed at me

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because I walked down like oh, you can't do that

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shit in the studio.

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That what.

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Yeah, language sometimes.

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I know, right, But you know what's cool about it

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is that there is really not much of a language

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barrier when it comes to music. Like you go perform

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in these other countries. They don't speak an English, but

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they can sing your lyrics right back to you, no problem.

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I hear all American songs in the stores and restaurants

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and everywhere overseas, So you know.

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It's wild. It's wild too to me because like I

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do festivals all over the US, UK and Europe, and

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when I go to Europe to do festivals, I'm driving

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down the road. I feel like I'm back in the eighties.

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Yes, it's wonderful though, right, it's it's great. I mean,

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the fans are just rabid, you know, and and uh,

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it's just it's amazing to experience that overseas. They just

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they just think of it a whole different way. You know.

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It's amazing for a few things. Man. First of all,

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like yet a lot like I was in the height

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of the Sunset Strip days in La with all those bands,

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and a lot of the bands they disappeared off the

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face of the earth. I thought until I started doing

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the festivals in Europe. But like always, shit, they've just

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been in Europe all this time.

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Oh listen, I just did a festival. We just did

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a festival in Europe with wast and Lead to flour nice.

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So Lena Ford's been in our studio because she lives

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here in South Florida, right. And then Chris Holmes and

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I and he's not in WASP anymore, obviously nobody.

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We hung out with him in England just recently too.

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Chris is a good guy, the friend of us.

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Yeah. I saw him for the first time in like

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forty years at Hell's Heroes and I used to hang

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out with him at the mall. Him and Mick Mahers

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we used to hang out at the mall. So hey,

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it is cool though, man like. And then when you

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go to these festivals over there, I always do like

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the dedication these people, like people over here can make

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all the complaints if they're like, campsite isn't the most

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plush thing in the world, and these people are walking

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for like five miles with all their camping here just

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to set up a tent.

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I know, I love it. I love the way they

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react to music and the way they they are about it,

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so oil and everything, and of course you know it

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has its challenges obviously, but it's not the people. The

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people are great.

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But I will tell you I have all the festivals

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I do. One of my favorite ones, especially the camping part,

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is Oklahoma.

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Oklahoma is right down the road from us from where

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I'm at right now. It is about ninety minutes from

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me right now. Yeah, Oklahoma, I've never been. Really no,

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I don't want to spend three days outside in the summertime.

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I'm not interested.

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I live right exactly. That's same for me, like here

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in South Floria. But that that campground is insane though,

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Like they have actually literally this local strip club has

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a big site and so at the end of the

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day after the headliners, there's a strip show out in

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the campground.

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There you go, there's like all.

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Kinds of shenanigans.

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It's pretty wild, uh, camp I know, I'm surprised that

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they had since your Oklahoma based they haven't invited you

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to play that festival because I think it right.

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In We've been invited a couple of times, you know. Unfortunately, unfortunately,

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uh it always uh interfered with something else that we

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were doing yeah, so so it's just never worked for us.

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But yeah, we've been invited a couple of times, and

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I think the last time we invited we were actually

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uh out on tour with Ted Nugent, so nice, and

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we couldn't go back and do that. But yeah, it's

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just a couple of times. Just like the old south

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By Southwest, we missed out a couple of times because

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of scheduling as well, So so we missed a couple

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of them, but we've played most of them.

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Well, there you go, And so tell us about this

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new album. Hell, is it the same? How is it

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different from stuff you've done in the past, from you

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as the artist? How do you look at it?

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I just look at it as a continuation. I don't

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look at it as any different than you know. One

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of my favorite things that that was ever said in

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rock music is somebody was trying to be rude to

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Angus Jung and said, you know, ac DC's made the

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same album twelve times, and he said, no, you're wrong,

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We've made it fourteen times. So I wouldn't say it's

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the same album, but I would say it's the same

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must It's just it's like a continuation of a story

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or a continuation of anything you learn more, characters change,

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perspectives change sometimes, but it's still you and so it's

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you know, at the core, it's still us. Got some

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different influences in the band now, some guys that are

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new to this album that been in the band the

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last couple of years, and so they bring a different

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story to things, But it's all our story, and it's

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all character driven, and just like TV shows and things

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like that, new characters come and go and things like that,

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So you just continue the story and let their experiences

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and their perspective have a piece of it too. So

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I just say it's a continuation of what we've always been.

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I love that, see, because the way I look at

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is a true musician doesn't necessarily change. They evolve and

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just get better.

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like what we do. I just want to do. I

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just want to make sure that we do it the

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way that we feel good about it and the way

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that we want people to hear us. And as long

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as we do that, I'd say the biggest difference this

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time is that we didn't go to a recording studio.

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We didn't have any producer helping us on anything, or

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or input or anything. We did it all by ourself

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in our own studio. Mixed master, not master, excuse me. Everything.

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We just did it ourselves. There's no way, there's no

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outside influences this time. I would say that's the biggest difference,

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if there's anything.

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I think that's the beautiful thing about nowadays, right that

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you as an artist can make it sound exactly what

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you like. I'm like, you know, like I think of

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Metallica and when they did kill them all that they

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couldn't even go in for the mix and have any

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say in the mix of the album. And I'm thinking

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the artists should have all the say now.

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And normally that doesn't happen. We've been there to quite

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a few times. That's why we got out in Nashville

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because you know, I listen, there's no problem with Nashville.

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I just it's not for us. I mean, it's a

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machine there, it's a factory, and there is along the

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assembly line. There is jobs. There's writers, there's producers, there's engineers.

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Their studio meansusicians and there's some guy at a label

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that tells you everything you're doing is wrong. And so

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if you interrupt any of that by writing your own

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songs or playing your own instruments, or wanting to self

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producer any of that, they suddenly don't like somebody being

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taken off the line because that's how they make their living.

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You know. It's like, yeah, Pittsburgh and steel, Nashville and music.

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It's just it's just a business. It's a factory city

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if you really think about it, for music, and it

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just didn't work for us, and so they would first

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album we did with that label in Nashville, we left

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thought we had a really good product, and when we

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got the finished product that had been had oh, studio

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musicians and studio background singers to it and things that

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we never even heard. And that happened to us a

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couple of times. And then finally we said enough of

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this and we're not doing that anymore. And you know,

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oddly enough, we've had our biggest success since we got

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away from all that kind of stuff.

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I love hearing that because we need true musicianship. It's getty.

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It was getting away from that. I think it's starting

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to come back. You know, people like yourself and other

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people that are taking a stand that like, Hey, this

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is how I want my music to sound, and I

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think the artists should have that creative control.

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Well. Sure, and if you listen to our album, everything,

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everything is a first or second take. We didn't go

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any further than that on anything on the entire album.

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The rhythm section was recorded together and live. My vocals

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are continuous vocals, all of them. There's not a vocal

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on there that went past two takes. And most first

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takes were just sound level takes. And we don't use

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auto tune or any tricks or tracks or anything like that.

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of it sounds pretty smooth, but that's just that's just

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what we made. But it was recorded that way record

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even though it was undone on pro tools. We recorded

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it as if we were using two inch tape, by

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doing continuous takes instead of piece and words together here

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and there and things like a lot of those guys

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a lot of times, especially vocally, they want you to

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sing it five perfect times and then I'll pick out

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a word from each version to make up a sentence.

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And it feels so sterile and so not real anymore,

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and created and uh, so I don't like doing that.

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So I didn't sing anything five times, and in fact,

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I sang five songs a total of five times would

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be five songs nice to be honest with you. And

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if I get it, if I hit a wrong note

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or something cracks in my voice, you know what, God

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must have wanted it that way.

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So I'm well, I think about some of my favorite

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albums from the past, and there are definitely mistakes on

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their Like even Zeppelin. That scream he does on the

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Presence album that wasn't on purpose. He was in pain

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because he broke his legs in the accident and they

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stood up, you know.

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And the same the same band. How could let be

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let Zeppelin those albums be those albums without the squeak

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and John Bonham's pedal.

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Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

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And you know, we used to think, you know, we

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used to think everybody in the seventies put that wooden

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block in there that was actually their uh it was

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actually their metronome going back and forth, and they just

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left it in there, you know, because now we take

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the click tracks out and all that kind of stuff.

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But I mean, that's all that stuff was, and it

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was natural and you heard it like they wanted you

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to hear it. You know, those guys were those guys

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were champions going in there and recording them two itch tape.

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And you can't just punch in and out of everything

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and do the things that people do today. You know,

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now today somebody can sing one chorus and they'll plaster

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on the song five times, and so you're not getting

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anything different in the song. You're getting the same exact

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performance four or five times to the song because they

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just sing the chorus once and just paste them in,

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you know, and musten, that's fine. People want to create music,

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they should create however they want. For us, that feels

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horrible to.

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Me, even with doing what I do and when I'm

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doing voiceovers and stuff, if I do it like different

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takes that are pieced together, it doesn't sound right because

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you have a different tonality. The tonality is different unless

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you're continuous. So I'll just keep going and you cut

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out what you want to cut out. But I'm keeping going, right.

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And I think I just think, I just think there's

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something to doing it the way that it was intended

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to be done. And there's nothing wrong with technology. You

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can still use technology and still do it the right way. No,

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that's I mean, we try that's what we try to do.

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We try to be as I'll say, take about our

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music as we can. And and it wasn't a budgetary

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thing because we had unlimited studio time. We could have

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taken a year to record the scene if we wanted to,

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but we recorded it in six days.

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Oh man, that's amazing that that That is the art

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of a true professional musician that could do that, for sure.

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So hats off to you.

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Thanks, I think, I think unfortunately that's also code for

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your getting old and you've learned some things so you

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might hold you there's this sweet spot when your brain

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and your body line up when you're at your your

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your your your intellectual best and you're at your physical best.

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And there's a very very short period of time when

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you're in that window, and so you have to take

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advantage of that when that happens. And that's that's happened

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for us lately, especially on this.

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Albums no doubt. So I how else I want to

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talk about? I like to talk about you know, ours

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passions outside of beings sick and I love that you

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make your own jewelry. Tell me about that.

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Well, I wouldn't say it's good enough to sell to anybody.

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I wouldn't anybody that. I don't know, man, I I'd

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like to have stuff that that is just mine, you know.

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I mean, you can go on Amazon and say turquoise bracelet,

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you get the same turquoise ba and listen, there's nothing

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wrong with that. But I see so many guys out

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on the road wearing those same bracelets and the same

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things and the same conco things you see on Amazon

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or you see in the store or whatever. I don't know,

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I'm just I want to be different. So you know,

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I remember when I was in seventh grade, I took

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leather work in a leather class, and I learned how

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to do that, and I thought that was so cool.

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I made it twenty wallets, you know on some coasters.

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I think it's what you make in there. But it

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just got me thinking about it, and it's just just creative.

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I'd like to make necklaces. I like to make my

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bracelets and my jewelry just because I like it to

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be original, look different, and to be honest with you,

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I end up giving away most of it over the

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course of the of a tour, so I'm gonna say,

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oh wow, that's really cool, and I'll take it off

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and hand it to them nice, you know. And so

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then I come home and I get to make a

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whole bunch more. Listen, it's partly selfish. I like I

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give a lot of things away, but I like it

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because I get to come home and make more than

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I don't have any excuse, and you know I have to.

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I need more.

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And then those people they love it because they have

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merch that you couldn't get anywhere.

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Yeah, you know. And it's usually I don't know. It's

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it's if I make a connection with somebody, you know,

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through hearing their story or talking to them at a

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meet and greet, or sometimes it's backstage and some some guy, oh, hey,

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I'm the promoter of this, so good to meet you.

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I love that thing you're wearing here. You can have it,

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you know, thanks for having us in it. So it's

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it's it's just something. My wife she used to hide

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things from me, a band memorabilia from me, because she said,

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if I don't, you'll never have anything to show that

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you don't have anything left. But she gave up on

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that because I just told her. Listen, I I don't

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care about keeping stuff. I don't care. I would rather

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have the memory of seeing somebody smile when you give

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it to them or whatever. I'm not one that's going to,

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when I'm done doing this, going to be sharing it

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on Facebook. I used to look like this. I used

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to sound like this, you know, when I'm seventy or

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seventy five or whatever, trying to relive things people might

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not even know I ever even did this. When I'm

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done with it, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, totally. I also love the fact that you work

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with military veterans, because we've done a lot with that

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on the station throughout the years, and my son's almost

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twenty in the military, and uh, I think the vets

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need all the help they can get. So I want

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to hear a little bit about your about the organization

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Operation VET.

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Now, Okay, I'll tell you about them, and I'll start

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with how I came to Operation BET. Now. My brother

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in law, Garrett Spencer, he's uh, he's a retired command

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sergeant major. His son, Jackson, just graduated from OU law

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school last Sunday. He's a he's a officer now, and

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he'll be uh he'll be working in Washington, d C.

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As AH and I like to tell you where, but anyway,

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he's in the military and and everything. And Garrett when

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he retired, he met Tony Operation Bett now and Garrett

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is on their U their board directors. My brother in

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law and I never met anybody that was a better

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soldier and a perfect example of a soldier than my

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brother in law and now his son. They're both just

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amazing and I just thought, if they're part of that organization,

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I want to be part of it. And Operation VET

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Now they mostly just you know, they're just really about camaraderie.

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They take care of their guys. They do it through music.

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A lot of them get together and just jam, you

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know what I mean, and play music together. They do rides,

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and they just want to make sure that they're there

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for each other when they're at home and dealing with

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things that only they can deal that they know about obviously,

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and those guys, I can't pretend to even know what

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they've seen and what they've had to do the last

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twenty five years that we've been involved in things overseas

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and what have you. And so I think it's a

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great organization and so we've always been pro VET because

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they're veterans in all of our families. But I will

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tell you there's something very special about the way that

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they help each other in the world. Way that they

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look out for each other and take care of each

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other and make sure that they're good to go back

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to their families and they have someplace to talk and

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have a good time and just forget about some of

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that stuff and just bond with guys. And so you know,

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to me, the greatest thing you can do is help

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people get past some of the things that they've done

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and and make them feel better at home. And so

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any small thing that we can do with Operation bet Now,

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they always know that we're going to be there. I

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believe they're based up in Pennsylvania, and so they come

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to shows when we travel in the Northeast and things

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like that, and they're just a bunch of really good guys.

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I love it. I love hearing that because you know,

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there's good organizations as bad as you probably know, there's

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a lot of political between the VET organizations. They all

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like to fight with each other, and it's like, man,

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you're all on the same page. Man, work together.

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I know we got involved with a couple of them

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in our past, and we wanted to be involved with

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and unfortunately we found out that they were more about

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fundraising and less about helping, and so yeah, we we

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you know, backed away from those things. And once we

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found the guys that Operation Ben now we knew they

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were genuinely. We knew they were the real deal and

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that they really care and that they're in it for

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the right reasons. So that's our organization. Those are the

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guys we're gonna work with and stick with. Nice.

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That's very cool. And you know, so I also want

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to talk real quick about Mister Midnight. That's a badass

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song by the way, thank you. But you got Paul

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Rogers helping out with that, and that's pretty cool. I

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assume that happened because of your other new band members

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and their connection to him.

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Yes, partly, Geraldo's been in the band for seventy seven years,

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but before that and well actually even now, Giraldo has

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been a touring member of Lobber Boys since then and

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Paul Dean the guitar so lover Boy his solo band,

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Giraldo wasn't that with him, and so in the two thousands,

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Giraldo started doing gigs with Paul Rodgers and his solo band,

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and then Todd, who actually started in Paul's soloban as

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well and then has been the basis for Bad Company

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since twenty eleven or so something like that. So he's

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the second longest tenured bassist in their history, next to Boss,

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the original guy. And so yeah, when those guys came

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to the band, obviously there was a line of communications

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that we could use if we wanted to. We didn't

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take advantage of it really much because there was no

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reason to. But the other thing is we also share

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a manager with Bad Company, with Paul and David Spiro,

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and David's in Iraqi in the Rock and Roll Hall

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of Fame. He's He's Joe Walsh, Kat Stevens and Dickey

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Bets and I mean Dave. It's great. And so David

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and Paul have been business together for decades. And so

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Todd said, hey, I got this song that we were

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doing in rehearsal getting ready for Midnight Rows, the album

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Paul just recently did a couple of years ago, and

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he said, this one kind of got lost in the

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shuffle and we didn't end up recording it, just listened

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to tell me what you think of it. He sent

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me an MP three of a rehearsal recording that was

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made by the phone, made by a phone, you know,

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And I'm listening. I'm listening to that thing, and I'm going,

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my god, Paul Rogers doesn't even sound like a guy

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in a rehearsal room with the phone. He sounds like

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the guy on rock and roll Fantasy. Sounds like the

449
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.759
guy I feels like making up. He sounds amazing in

450
00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:50.319
a rehearsal room on a phone, man, you know what.

451
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.240
I'm listening to that going wow, you know. And if

452
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:54.359
that's as far as the thing went. Just to hear

453
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:58.400
Paul in a rehearsal room, I was thrilled to just

454
00:23:58.440 --> 00:23:59.880
be a part of that little fly in the wall.

455
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:02.839
And Todd said, what do you think about doing that song?

456
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.400
And I said, well, I think that for you guys

457
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:07.920
who are just playing the music, no offense. But that's

458
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.759
no pressure for you guys, you know. But if I

459
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.000
got to sing something that Paul wrote it I just

460
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:16.559
heard him sing, you know, we'll see see how we do.

461
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.480
But luckily I'm not afraid of anything, so I said, yeah,

462
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.680
let's give it a shot. So we put it together

463
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.839
and I talked to David, our manager. I said, hey,

464
00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:28.440
Paul sing on this, and he said, yeah, I think

465
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:29.880
he would. He said, let me send it to him

466
00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.960
and Paul. Paul loved it. He said that is fantastic.

467
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.279
He said, they don't need me to sing on it.

468
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:36.839
It's great, but he said, but we want you to

469
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:40.519
sing on it. And so Paul he put his vocals

470
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.519
there and send it back to us. And to be

471
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.920
honest with you, when he sent it back, I would say,

472
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.119
we sent in the truck and listened to just just

473
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:54.559
that little section that he did right there, just that

474
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.799
little section that he did probably twenty times in a row.

475
00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.839
Not the whole song. Let's hear that, you know, It's

476
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.079
just one of those things. It's little famboition at the moment,

477
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.359
but once we got used to it, it just felt

478
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.799
really cool to have Paul come in and knock out

479
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.720
this really cool line and it's it's his song. And

480
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.039
he said he was really kind of disappointed that he

481
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.279
that that song got lost because he really wanted it

482
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:18.680
on that solo album, but if it couldn't make it there,

483
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.119
he was really happy that that it ended up where

484
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.039
it has and and so then Paul and I exchanged

485
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:27.440
some emails and he was really really lovely guy, and

486
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:31.400
I love it and yeah, yeah, because you know, he's

487
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.440
far away from me than Vancouver. He's in Palm Springs,

488
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.599
I think, in the winter time, in the Vancouver area,

489
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:41.839
Canada for the summertime. And so uh so he uh

490
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.920
he and I became kind of pinpalace for a bit.

491
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:46.519
He's just been a really great guy to get to

492
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.759
know a little bit and uh way more down to

493
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.440
earth than you'd expect one of the greatest rock and

494
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.319
roll singers in history to be. But I guess that's

495
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:56.759
why he's made it as far as he's made it,

496
00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:57.880
because he's a good human being.

497
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.359
That is what I say of time, Because I like,

498
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.039
I have interviewed I've done over three thousand music interviews,

499
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.279
but I've interviewed icons, and they're all almost all of

500
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:12.240
them are down to earth, Like they don't even have

501
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:16.559
any idea that they're like this legendary icon. You know,

502
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.519
they kind of do, but they don't act like they do.

503
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.160
They don't think about it. They just them.

504
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.559
Well, I can give you a little insight. And I'm

505
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.799
no icon, obviously, but I can give you some insight

506
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.680
on that. When you're in the middle of the bubble,

507
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.559
you don't know really what's happening around you. You're just

508
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:38.839
doing your work, and like it's always a big surprise

509
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.880
when you find out, oh really, you know, I told Paul.

510
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.119
I told Paul, I said, you know, for me, I

511
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:50.839
wasn't of the age group for Elvis and Ed Sullivan

512
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:52.559
and the Beatles and all that stuff. I mean, I

513
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.240
love the Beatles, I love the Elvis, don't get me wrong,

514
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.400
But I didn't have the life shaging moment like come

515
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.880
out of those guys like Paul did when he heard

516
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.400
Elvis or Mike when he watched the Beatles on Sullivan

517
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.519
or whatever. But for me, I told Paul, might maya

518
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.759
Ed Sullivan Beatles moment is when I heard you for

519
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.359
the first time, and I thought, that is what I

520
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.519
want to do. That is amazing. He said he couldn't

521
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:15.440
believe somebody thought of him that way, and I was thinking,

522
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.720
how can you not believe somebody thinks of you that way?

523
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.359
But right, perfect example of what you're saying. You know

524
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.240
what I mean, Because when you're in the bubble, you

525
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.319
don't know, you don't know The most surprising thing to

526
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.720
me is, you know, we've had now we've had six

527
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:33.359
four top twenty and now a top ten and the

528
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.079
top twelve single in America and eight of them overseas,

529
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.160
and I don't even think about it. I don't think

530
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.559
that people know anything. And then you see him lined

531
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.400
up to see you four hours early at the menu,

532
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.440
or you see the first forty rows of people singing

533
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.000
your lyrics back to you, and you go, wow, how

534
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:52.720
they know that? And then you're like, oh, how they

535
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.759
know that? You know they've heard it? And so to me,

536
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.440
it's the same thing. I don't I'm always surprised. I'm shocked,

537
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.519
you know what I mean. But I say, four or five,

538
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.599
six hundred people right in front of me singing the along,

539
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.680
and the other thousand kind of you know, going with

540
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.640
it too. But but but I guess you just kind

541
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.160
of get insulated and you don't you don't really know

542
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:15.920
what's going on like that, you know what I mean?

543
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.680
I yeah, And I even add to that, I just

544
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:23.359
think because those are the people that are in it

545
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.519
to become musicians, not rock stars, so they don't give

546
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:29.960
a crap about the whole rock star thing. They just

547
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.240
want to play their music.

548
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:36.160
Well, the rock star thing is very short lived and

549
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.640
fades very fast. And you know a lot of people,

550
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.480
like you said, a lot of bands you think you're gone.

551
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.839
You don't realize. Hey, you know there's a band I

552
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:49.079
loved in the late eighties, early nineties and I thought disappeared,

553
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:50.680
and I found out there in Europe all the time,

554
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.759
and that's Little Caesar. Do you remember them?

555
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.200
Yeah, yeah, I remember them, love man.

556
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.400
They were fantastic and they're still cranking it out overseas.

557
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.519
I do. So. I mean the rockstar part when they're

558
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.720
in America on MTV all the time, that kind of fades,

559
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.920
but the working musician part still goes. You've laid that

560
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.039
foundation right and you can do it for a long time.

561
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.880
There you go. And yet my first concert, well my

562
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.599
first verse was beatle Mania, but I don't count that

563
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.839
because it wasn't actually the Beatles. But my first concert

564
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:26.039
was lover Boy opening for Journey. So you mentioned lover Boy.

565
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.319
It took me right back there, nineteen seventy nine, I think.

566
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.839
All right, all right, and listen, those guys we were

567
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.200
just recently with him and not playing with them. We

568
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:38.799
just went backstage and hung out with them when they

569
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.359
came through Oklahoma, and Mike Reno and Paul Deine have

570
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.160
been just amazing friends to the band. They call when

571
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.400
we're on the road, they'll call us and just congratulate

572
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.799
us on the new single. Like Mike Reno just recently

573
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:54.839
called us and said, hey, man, love the new song. Congratulations.

574
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.480
And we hung out with them backstage when they were

575
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.319
in Oklahoma, and they were just the sweetest guys and

576
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.680
they've been very support of it. Yeah, they're they're they're

577
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.559
iconic guys because they just kept working, you know what

578
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.799
I mean, They just work and that's and they sound amazing.

579
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.880
I'm telling you, they sound amazing. I was just in

580
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.119
awe of how much they sound like their record still, Mike,

581
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.799
you know, I know they tune down, but but they

582
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.400
do it in a smart way. You can't hardly tell.

583
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.359
If you're not a musician, you can't tell. And my

584
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:28.079
kids everything. And I asked, because I can be a

585
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:31.039
little bit, you know, inside baseball, and I'll tell you

586
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.039
you won't mind, because but I asked, I say, is

587
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.000
he using any tracks or anything? Not a one, not

588
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.880
even on what's that one that he hits that?

589
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:39.200
Uh?

590
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.400
I mean, h's that huge incredible note? Is it turn

591
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:47.799
not turn me loose? I I can't remember, but anyway,

592
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.759
no love and every minute of it. He hits this

593
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.079
this incredible high note and love and every minute of

594
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:54.720
it on the album. And if I got hit it,

595
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.599
he hit it live too. And so those guys they work.

596
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.960
They they still sound great and they are just fantastic.

597
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.680
So there's something like that, Yeah, there is. You know,

598
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.839
there's some that aren't like you know, listen, one of

599
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.880
my favorite bands ever is Slayer. But Tom can't hit

600
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.519
those notes he hit in the eighties when he was screaming.

601
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.160
He just does the growl now. But that I saw

602
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.759
it last year at Hellfest the Scorpions and the and

603
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.519
Priests played too. I thought the Scorpions blew Priest away

604
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.920
like they were so good. It was amazing.

605
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.039
Yeah, and that's well, I'll tell you Another one is

606
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.880
Ted News. We spent two and a half months with

607
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.039
Ted on the road, and unless she told me what

608
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.720
his age was, I would have no idea. There's I

609
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.480
ended up. We got along really good with Ted. He's

610
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.440
just a music encyclopedia and such a good guy backstage

611
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.839
and whatever is outside personality is I'm not here to

612
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.720
talk about that. I'm here to talk about the musician.

613
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.799
Yeah, who cares anyway? You know, that's actually bullshit.

614
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.559
And what I'll tell you is is that he's not

615
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.480
one of these guys who wants you to be terrible

616
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.079
opening for him. He wants you to be great. And

617
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.480
when he heard us after the first night, he gave

618
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.000
us the same dressing rooms that he had, the same catering.

619
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.039
He let us he was his crew, lights and sound.

620
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.000
Everything didn't throttle the lights and sound, none of that.

621
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.640
And then I ended up the last month of the Torrey,

622
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.240
ended up singing with Ted every night with him. What

623
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.000
I can tell you about that guy is that when

624
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:30.240
you're standing next to Ted, there's this incredible vibration, this heat,

625
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.079
this energy. And I would have never believed it if

626
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.480
he just told me about it. But when I stood

627
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.200
next to him every night and sang next to the guy,

628
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.759
you could feel this energy and this heat. It's just

629
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.880
I can't even describe it, you know, coming off of

630
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.079
that guy, that was just like amazing. It was like electricity.

631
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.799
You could actually feel it standing next to him, you know,

632
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.240
he and I stole shoulder to shoulder I'm singing, it's

633
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.319
just like this voltage is going through you and the

634
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:59.079
guy has such energy and he he whips into stranglehold

635
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.559
or cat scratch fever or.

636
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.920
I was saying, did you catch this cat scratch fever?

637
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.079
When you were saying about the heat. That's exactly what

638
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:07.599
must be.

639
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.920
What it is, I don't know, but you just you

640
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.839
felt this energy with them, you know what I mean.

641
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.680
And it's just it's just one of those amazing things.

642
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.400
And listening to him play every night, and then I

643
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.680
mentioned one night backstages and then you know, I love

644
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.480
Dog Eat Dog, and he said, you know what, we'll

645
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.640
play it tomorrow. And the next night. Oh it was

646
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.599
a badass, you know what I mean. And so so no,

647
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.960
those guys that that that still do it at a

648
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.200
high level. There's just a certain amount of energy inside them.

649
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.200
And like I said, my example, my long explanation wasn't

650
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.359
just that he has that energy too, but you can

651
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:45.119
actually feel it radiating, you know, so very strange.

652
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.599
See I love hearing that. I love hearing that because

653
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.079
forget all the hate on any artists for any reason

654
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:55.039
or whatever. I've found that artists are just normal, down

655
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.720
to earth people that happened to play music.

656
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.839
Most of them are. Yeah, you know, you run into it.

657
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.559
You run into some of those guys that I think

658
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.240
highly of themselves. But I think those.

659
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.440
Are the ones you were referring to, though, because that's

660
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.199
how I I agree. The ones that were rock stars

661
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.079
for one song twenty years ago and still think they're

662
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.000
a rock star today, those are the ones.

663
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:20.960
They were there. And they wear their Halloween costume from

664
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.400
the moment they get up in the morning until the

665
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.679
moment they go to bed and can't go out without it.

666
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.400
And it's always it's always like they're ready to go

667
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.559
trick or treating, even when they're walking McDonald or something,

668
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.760
you know what I mean. And gon, that's what they

669
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.559
want to do. I don't have the energy, man, you know.

670
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:40.760
I like these guys that just get up and act

671
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.920
like regular people and then they take their lunch bell

672
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.599
and they go to work, you know what I mean.

673
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.960
And that's yeah, that's really it's all the same stuff.

674
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.480
No matter what line of work you're in. You got

675
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.199
to go to work, and you you you come across

676
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:54.880
a lot of guys that do it right. And you know,

677
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.199
I'll tell you another one. You're right heat we played

678
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.960
with those guys overseas, and those guys are freaking amazing,

679
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.000
you know, such nice guys and just such a band

680
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.880
and a couple of the guys that I think the

681
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.159
singer is the same one since eighty five and the

682
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.880
guitarist is the original guy. And wow, I'm not well

683
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.599
versed on you, bry A Heap, I'll be the first

684
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.440
one to tell you, but I will tell you this,

685
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.239
what a joy hanging out with those guys and and

686
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.559
playing and playing with those guys and just spending time

687
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.480
with them. Such nice guys. You see.

688
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.320
I love hearing that stuff, you know, I think the

689
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.280
listener is near to hear that. It's like one of

690
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.719
my favorite interviews ever, and I've interviewed them three times,

691
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:35.639
is Leonard Skinner.

692
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:36.880
Because they're just.

693
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:41.800
Good old boys and like they're laughing through the whole interview,

694
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.480
like it was just like they were just having a

695
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.360
good time. Man. They have no clue to their Leonards Skinner,

696
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.239
you know, they're just a good time man.

697
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.119
This ain't real life anyway. This is just all make believe,

698
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.320
made up stuff anyway, So we might as well smile

699
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.079
and have a good time through it. Right. We get

700
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.679
to do something is completely absurd if you think about it,

701
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.880
what we do, it's it's goofy, but right, people like it.

702
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.599
It's fun, you know, hey.

703
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.760
And more power to you because I played drums, I

704
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.239
played guitar, and I sang it thrash metal and I

705
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.679
sucked at all three. So the fact that you can

706
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.559
be doing this stuff and giving us great music, I

707
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.519
always like my tip my hat to musicians like you

708
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.960
because it is not an easy road.

709
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:31.400
For sure, No, it's not. But I guess musicians have

710
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.800
this mute button when it comes to getting kicked in

711
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.760
the stomach or getting knocked down, because we don't seem

712
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.159
to fill it. We don't seem to notice it. Yeah, no,

713
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.679
my wife. My wife said to me years ago, because

714
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.760
I don't know how you do it. I don't know

715
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.960
how you stand it. You get knocked down all the

716
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.199
time and you never seem to notice it. It drives

717
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.000
me crazy, and I don't notice. If you did, you

718
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.480
wouldn't feel to do it. Disappointed. But but you have

719
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.400
to be a forever optimist to be a musician in

720
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:58.039
the first place.

721
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.239
True story, very true story. Anything else you want to

722
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.320
share with the listeners. We haven't covered yet. That you

723
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.800
got going on twenty twenty six.

724
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.800
Now you know, we're just getting ready. We're getting ready

725
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.880
to go back out on tour. I believe forwards the

726
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.719
end of July and it will go through November in

727
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.760
America and then we'll be overseas in early twenty seven

728
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.599
back over there again. And the reviews for the album

729
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.119
have been very good. I think that makes me so happy,

730
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.840
because you don't decide what you are the people do.

731
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.079
You don't decide what kind of music you play. People decide,

732
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.840
and so we've been very, very fortunate that people are

733
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.639
playing the songs. Radio has been great to us, and

734
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.519
I just want to thank everybody for listening and think

735
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.679
thank you and all the people in the media who

736
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.400
have been so kind to us and have let us

737
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.000
share their air and talk about what we do and

738
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:51.239
appreciate it very much.

739
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.239
Well, thank you for giving us great music, because it

740
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.480
is great music, and everybody needs to check out all

741
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.000
the mode, get the new album, get your merch find

742
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.119
out your tour dates, all that stuff, and support you

743
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.679
guys because you guys kick ass.

744
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.239
Thank you so much. I appreciate you very much. Had

745
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:10.039
a great time today.

746
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:12.639
Thank you very much, and thanks for being on the

747
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.159
adventures of pipe Man. Thank you for listening to the

748
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.199
Adventures of Pipemin.

749
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.280
I'm w for Cui Radio.