April 14, 2026

Pipeman Chats with Supergroup T3RMINAL & Gunshine

Pipeman Chats with Supergroup T3RMINAL & Gunshine
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Season 20, Episode 39 of The Adventures of Pipeman.

It’s the Pipeman in the Pit weekly segment of The Adventures of Pipeman.

Chapter 1:
BRIAN WHEAT and TOMMY SKEOCH Join Forces with JOSEY SCOTT, CHRIS HOLMES to Form New Band T3RMINAL

Debut Album Currently in Production, Slated for Release Later This Year

A brand new modern hard rock band has officially arrived. Brian Wheat (Tesla) and Tommy Skeoch (formerly of Tesla, Bad Marriage) have joined forces with Josey Scott (Original Voice of Saliva) and Chris Holmes (formerly of W.A.S.P.) to form a new band called T3rminal.

The group is currently in the studio working on their debut full-length album, expected to be released later this year. Bringing even more firepower to the project, Sal Giancarelli (Staind) is performing drums on the upcoming studio recording.

With decades of rock legacy between them, T3rminal is shaping up to deliver pure modern hard rock attitude—loud, heavy, in some cases bluesy and built to shake stages.

Tour dates will be announced following the album’s release.

More news, music, and official updates from T3rminal will be revealed soon.

T3RMINAL are:
Josey Scott (Original Voice of Saliva) – Vocals
Brian Wheat (Tesla) – Bass
Tommy Skeoch (formerly of Tesla, Bad Marriage) – Guitar
Chris Holmes (formerly of W.A.S.P.) – Guitar
Sal Giancarelli (Staind) – Drums (Studio)

Chapter 2:
Gunshine W/ Austin Ingerman

Gunshine Unveils Music Video for "Single Looks Good On You" Ahead of Upcoming Album Grand Rising

— Florida rock band Gunshine released their third track, “Single Looks Good On You,” offering fans a taste of their forthcoming full-length album, Grand Rising, due out digitally on July 24 through vnclm_ / Create Music Group. Today, they unveiled the music video for the single.

"Single Looks Good On You'' is a spring break party rocking song inspired by the gulf coast of Florida. An anthem to those recently single ready to let loose and have a good time. With "Single Looks Good On You,'" Gunshine showcases its signature ''swamp rock'' sound with this song. It has an irresistibly hooky melody and lyric. This track is sure to be a new favorite for listeners.
A musical love child conceived during the pandemic, Gunshine was birthed by Daytona Beach native and New Years Day ax man Austin Ingerman

After an exhaustive search, Jordan Benson, distant cousin to Elvis Presley, became the band’s singer

Gunshine are:
Austin Ingerman: (Guitar, Vocals)
Jordan Benson: (Lead Vocals, Piano)
Jake Tripp: (Bass, Vocals)
Tommy Salzburg: (Drums, Vocals)

“Wow, was I thoroughly entertained by this record it’s fantastic! The guitar playing, the singing, ithas an energy of an early GNR or maybe a Buckcherry. I really enjoy everything I’ve heard so far.”— Joe Elliott (lead singer Def Leppard)

“Very good band and songs. I’m liking this, about time, a decent band with the right elements and crass.What I hear is a great guitarist about to set a name in the game. Way cool.” — Stephen Pearcy (leadsinger Ratt)

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me make sure you got okay Gray?

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Ray, Hey Holmes?

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What's up? All right?

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Holmes?

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I just woke up.

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All right, Hey, what's up everybody? This is Josie Scott

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and Tommy Skill and Chris Holmes and Brian We and

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we are Terminal and we're working on a brand new

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record for you guys. Come check us out on the road.

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We will see you guys. Carry m'small.

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My name.

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Can't you see how the I'll take a crazy bad

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taking crazy?

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Watch out. This is the Pipe Man here on the

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Adventures pipe Man w four Cy Radio. And I'm very

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excited because we have a new band with some new

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music coming out and man, I can't wait. So let's

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welcome to the show. Josie and Brian, how are you, hey, man?

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How are you?

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I'm doing great And I was really excited when I

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saw the press release for this because I was just

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doing coverage at Hell's Heroes a couple of weeks ago,

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and I saw my old friend who haven't seen in

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over forty years, Chris Holmes. That back back in the

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Hollywood days, we would hang out at the mall together, and.

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So it was. It was really cool.

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Like right after I got back, I saw this press

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release that you guys are all forming this new band, Terminal,

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and man, that's so exciting. I want to know the

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story of how this happened.

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Well, how it happened. Was it started when I ran

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into Chris. I met Chris a long time ago when

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he was in Wasp and Tessa played La I think

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the first time with def Leppard and Chris came to

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the show, and I don't remember much about seeing him

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or whatever he was, you know, in his full Chris

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Holmes back then and fast forward to about three years ago.

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Two three years ago, his documentary came out on Amazon

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Mean Man, and a friend of mine called me and said, hey,

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you got to watch this, and I said, what is that.

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it was about Blackie and he went, no, it's the

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guitar player Chris Holmes. I said, oh, I met that

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guy and I had ran into him. Frank had ran

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I didn't talk to Chris that day, but Frank did.

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Tessa plays on and Chris was playing on it. And

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the first year I was supposed to see him, he

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had got the throat cancer, so he canceled. The next year,

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I was on there selling my art but I wasn't

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playing and he was playing. So I went up to

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his wife or him whoever was. It was him in Sarah,

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but I didn't know who it was, and I said, hey,

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I'm Brian from Tessa. I'd like to say hello to Chris.

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remember meeting you, and he's like cool. So then we

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got on the boat the next day and he's like, hey, dude,

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I rented him. Let's have lunch together. They got talk.

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I can't get tacos in France. I mean, you know

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how Chris is. Chris is a large personality. And I said, great.

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So we're sitting there in the buffet and he's eating

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tacos and we're talking about just life and being in

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a band and you know, this, that and the other,

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and I you know, after I was listening to him

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for a while and I said, Chris, you know I

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got a question for it. All these years you went wasp.

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to me, he's like the Keith Richards of heavy metal.

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You know, and how come you never joined another band

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or you know, started another bend? He said, well, no

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one ever wanted to be in a band with me.

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band with you.

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Nice And he said okay.

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upstate New York. And also I have a place in

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Italy which is close to his place in France. I said, listen,

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I'm being in Italy next month. Why don't you come

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up to my farm and we'll see if we can

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put some songs together, Because you know, it's one thing

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to say you can be in a band together. Let's

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make a band and that worked great. We wrote like

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three songs and we hit it off, and you know,

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instant kinship with the guy. So when that happened, and

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I decided that me and Chris were gonna do something together.

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a band, we gotta have a singer.

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And another guitar player and a crupper.

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great second guitarist. Another guitarist is my old friend Tommy

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Skill who was in Tesla. Me and him have reconnected

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and you know, I love him and I missed working

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with him, and what do you think about They said, what, Okay,

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I'd be cool. I mean if we can get along.

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So so then me and Tommy got together, right, and

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we had written songs since we'd written songs in Tesla,

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but that was like riding.

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A bike, you know what I mean.

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It's like, yeah, yeah, wait.

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Missed step. So me and him were fine. And then

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I said, you know, tom would you be into playing

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with me and christ And he said yeah sure, So

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then I had to get those two together. And then

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the three of us got together and and we were

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put together a bunch of music. And once I knew

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Tom and Chris got along and me and Tom and

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Chris and it's like, Okay, I know the perfect singer

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for this band. And the perfect singer was Josie Right,

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who I'd met when Your Disease came out and I

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was listening to that on the radio and Tesla just

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gotten back together after being apart for five years, and

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I went up to his tour manager and said, hey,

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I'd like to meet the guys in that band. I

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really liked that song. And he took me in the

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dress room and Josie was there, and he's like, hey man,

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I ain't doing your Brian. I saw you mad Island

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where I was a kid, and I just I loved

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Josie from that day. He was just the most nicest, sweet,

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coolest guy. And I loved like his look and all

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the tattoos and the bling and all that stuff. Right,

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hey man, what's with all that stuff? He's like, Hey man,

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I'm from Memphis.

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Man.

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That was so then I called Josey and said, hey, Josie,

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I'm putting together the Tommy sk and Chris Holmes. Would

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you be interested. He said, well, yeah I would. I said, well,

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let me send you some music, you know, because for

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all he knew, it could have been terrible. And I

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sent him some and he said, yeah, I can, I

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can dig this. I said, well cool. So then it

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was getting you know, Josie. He came and worked with

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me for a couple of days and we put together

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some songs. On those songs right then, those guys heard it,

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Tommy and Chris, and they were like, fucked, he's amazing.

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This is perfect. So then it was like, okay, Josie, come,

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let's see. That was eve. All four of us can

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get together and dig each other. And we did that,

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and that's it, man, that's the story of how we

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got together.

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And that is key that you have to get along.

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And I was watching the video of your you know,

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introducing the band, and I was like, yeah, that's so Chris.

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He was like making fun of with the sunglasses and stuff,

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and it was like you could see the camaraderie there,

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and that is so key in any band for sure,

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as you guys will know, you know, so.

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That that's way cool.

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And then when I saw him a couple of weeks ago,

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I'm like, hey, what's going on? Blah blah blah, and

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he's like, yeah, I'm old now I can't do what

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I used to Like he used to back in the day,

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he would run full speed into his Marshall stack and

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knock it all over while he's in the middle of

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a solo. And I watched him play, I'm like, holy shit,

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he still is, like, oh my god.

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He was all over the place.

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He was saying, yeah, he was making to me like

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before to go, I'm lucky if I could walk up

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to the stage at this age.

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But then he was just like as as this.

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Show started, he was everywhere. It was flashbacks of the

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early eighties for sure. So now combining all of you

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together in one band, Oh my god, Like, that's like,

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I don't know, that's gonna be the the firestorm of

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twenty twenty six.

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I think, yes, yeah, I hope. So there you go,

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There you go. So when can we see some of

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this new music.

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Well, right now we're in the writing process. Josie's just

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now getting ready to go out and play some Saliva dates.

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Oh that's right, he can't. He can't call it saliva, right,

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but he is Saliva, no doubt. Yeah, I mean click

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click boom your disease always superstar ladies and gentlemen. These

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are all Josie's Scott songs from the band he started

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in his garage. So yeah, but anyways, go see Josie Scott,

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the man who started Saliva, created it him and Wayne.

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Wayne's no longer with us, but Josie's out there and

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singing the songs better than he's ever sang him. Uh,

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so he's doing that. I've got some work with Tesla obviously.

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I got this Tesla Monty Crue tour this summer. Yeah,

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this is taking care of some personal issues in Paris. Uh.

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But you know we're getting together again in a couple

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of weeks, me, Tommy and Chelsea. So it's it's kind

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of an ongoing process. I would say realistically, by the

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end of the year, we should have a single out

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what we're gonna do. I mean, people are calling me.

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Someone called me yesterday today. When can Terminal come and

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play soon?

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I love it?

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Yeah, but right now, you know, we we we got

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things we're doing. So yes, It's the beauty of the

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thing is that we we all of us have other

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things that we do, but we connect in the in

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the Terminal, and the Terminal is you know me, Josey,

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Tommy and and and Chris. We get together and that's

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where the magic happens.

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So how for the listeners, how would you describe how

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Terminal music is going to be? Because you know all

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three great bands Wasp, Tesla, Saliva, but very different too

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in a lot of ways. Similar in a lot of ways,

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but very different. So how are all those influences what

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is that going to create?

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Chelsea?

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You'd be surprised how well we have gelled together.

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In the studio.

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I think.

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The sound, the natural Tesla sound that Brian and Tommy

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have lends itself perfectly to what Chris does with his

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you know, sexy eighties go go dancer type guitar riffs,

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and then you know, I just come in and and

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you know, lay down, you know what I'd like? Like

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Brian says, this is what I do. You know what

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I mean?

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This is all I know how to do.

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Is has come in and sing my home art.

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You know what I mean?

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Right about whatever's going on around us. I've written some

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songs about, uh, the different characters that I'm in a

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band with in Terminal, and I've written some things about

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life and about heartbreak. God knows, we've all been through

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enough heartbreak for ten albums and ten lifetimes. Yeah, So,

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I mean it's just something because you know, like the

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end of the day, you can want to be in

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a band all you want to and it not gel

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or you know, not come together. And and this is

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surprisingly just really jelled and come together perfectly and in

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in this pot of stew that we're making that's terminal.

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I think people are going to be really surprised. I

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don't want to give it. I don't want to give

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it away. There's more I'd like to say on it,

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but I want I would want you to hear it first.

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I write a little bit on that. The funny thing

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is you you say you know, I'll tell you what

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it doesn't sound like. It doesn't sound like Tesla, It

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doesn't sound like Wasps and Josie like any band right,

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Like the voice of Tesla's Jeff Keith. The voice of

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Saliva is Josie Scott, right, the voice of Wasp was Blackie.

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It doesn't sound like Tesla or Wasp and I don't

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and doesn't sound like Saliva outside of its Josie singing. Yeah,

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so it's gotta it's I will say, it's got a

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modern rock sound to it, right. We don't want to

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give too much away, like Josie says, but if you're

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expecting to hear like you know, oh that that's that

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runs me of Tesla, it it doesn't have that sound.

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I'm glad that because it already Tesla right.

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Exactly right, and there's already there's already Josie Scott Saliva. Right.

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But what this is is all those guys coming together

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with everything they know and everything they grew up and

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everything they were inspired by, and putting it together. And

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that's why it's called terminal, you know, because what's that?

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What happens in a in a terminal? Yeah, right, an

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airport terminal. You got people coming and going from all

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different places all over the world, and they all meet

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at the terminal to go somewhere else on an on

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a journey. And this is this is a journey. I

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scratched in my arm because I have the I'm not

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a junkie, uh, I have the terminal tattoo and it's motherfucker.

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Oh I can't see it here is it on your

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nice right.

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There?

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And it's itching, So I don't want you to think

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I'm like a man, right, and you got to em vacue.

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I see that. There you go. I got mine too.

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It's mind mind a little bit.

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Yeah, it's got a itch on the neck like that, right,

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is that itch.

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Like on his back? And I don't think he can

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reach it. And Tommy's is on his hand right here.

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But you know, I think people are going to be

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surprised because I don't think it's gonna be what you

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know on paper. It always appears to be one thing, right,

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you put it lip on paper and you go, okay,

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but this is gonna it's different because, like I said,

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it's not what you would expect.

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Right, And that's why I said what I did too

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about that coming from the different bands, because it's not

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like you had three of the exact same type of

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band coming together, you know.

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And even in Tesla, me and Tommy we're both from

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different places. Like Tommy had the real heavy, you know stuff,

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and I would write, you know, the more pop song

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like call it what you Want or Paradise or you

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know something like that, where he would write Heaven's Trail

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or something. So that was a combination. So you take

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that element of tom who's he's into newer heavy music

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and I'm into I listened to you know, Miley Cyrus,

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I listened to, you know, pop music. I listened to

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the beat I come from all, you know what I mean.

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So it's just we just take all these influences and

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no one's got any egos or there's no bullshit like

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that to deal with, and we all contribute and we

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try to make the best song. Because Josie will tell

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you what about songs, Josie, the song is the king.

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That's it. It's about It's about the songs. But you

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will hear this guitar army of Tommy Skeel and Chris Holmes.

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That's there, man, and they work so well together. And

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you you want to hear Jo, You're gonna hear Josie

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Scott as you want to hear Josie Scott, right, And

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you know I do what I do. Man, I'm that

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guy that plays that bass thing and he's.

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A monster bass player in the studio.

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And stop it only four notes, but I played the

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fun out of there.

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Come on, all these years, you must have learned the

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fifth though, four or five?

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You know, I never played the high string.

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It's a way, well, I got I do have to

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say that. I'm I'm gonna pick a bone and she'll

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listen as a laugh. But I'm gonna pick a bone

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with Shauna because she should have. In the press release

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called you guys a super group, because like there's all

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these bands coming out there super groups. I'm like, yeah,

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that's not a supergroup. But then I see you guys,

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and I'm like, that's a super curse.

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Something that's for someone like you to say.

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That's right, that's right, said.

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That people would think we're arrogant, and that was for sure.

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It wasn't like, hey, I want to make a supergroup.

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It happened for me. I mean, I guess I'm the

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catalyst because I ran into Chris and then I just thought, well,

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you know, I play in this great band, you know, Tesla.

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I mean, listen, we've done okay a little bit, and

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those are my brothers, right, But then I have my

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other friends that are my brothers and that I see

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and I talked to when I'm not in Tesla. So

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for me, that was the thing. It's like I I

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told Josie, like I always envisioned doing something with him

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from the day I met him. Like we just connected,

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Like we've stayed in touch for twenty years, and you know,

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even though he was off doing something or I was

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off and he got on the Triple Beer, and we

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always managed to always connect every once in a while.

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Hey man, how you doing.

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How's it going?

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Hey man?

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You know, hey, I wish I seen you. Man. Oh,

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I love that song. You know that was great. And

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you know what, Tommy, we've had a bit of a

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rougher time because you know, listen talk about heartbreak. I mean,

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he you know, I started in the garage with Frank

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and and Tommy even before Jeff Keith. Oh no, Jeff

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Keith came. But truthly, Tommy came before, but he wouldn't

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join us because we weren't cool enough, and then didn't

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find me he joined our band. And but the four

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of us, you know, in Tesla were always you know,

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the four of us, Me, Frank, Tommy, and Jeff were

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always on the same page. So when you know, tom left,

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and you know, it's been pretty documented what his issues were,

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you know, out of you know, heartbreak and hurt and

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pride and eagle and shit, we both kind of attacked

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each other and but once we ran into each other.

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After seventeen years, all that shit just melted away and

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then I you know, it's like maybe there was five

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percent of bad shit right at that point, I just

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remembered all the ninety five percent of good shit. And

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when I want to work with my brother again, you

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know what I mean, I want to you know, you

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can't come back to Tesla right now, even though that's

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a whole other topic that one day when Tesla does

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a final lap, I said it, I'll say it again here.

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I want Tommy Skill back, I want Troy Laketta back.

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I want Dave Rude there. Dave Rud's not going anywhere.

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We have three guitar players. I'm trying to put that

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all together. When there's one lap, I don't know when

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that one lap is. When it is, i'll let you know.

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But with Terminal, it's like these are all my buddies, you.

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Know what I mean. And it's got to be exciting too,

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like with people you like, and it's got to be

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exciting and new and fresh. When you guys have been

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doing it as long as you've been doing it, you know,

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sometimes you need that new freshness, like when you were

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teenagers first get into music.

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Yeah, and it's totally been like that too, you know,

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it's it's been you know. It reminds me of the

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whole reason I started in this in the first place.

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And the best, most fun moments are always when the

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band first starts. Yeah before uh, you know, not to

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speak of this band, but I can only speak from

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my experience with with Saliva and my band before Saliva Blackbone, Uh,

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you know, before lawyers get involved in managers get involved

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in all these different anti.

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Same and money and kids and drugs, Yeah, become jaded

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and you know, like with Tesla, we had to break

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up to find each other again. Right, I'm so glad

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we did because we're closer than we've ever been.

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So that and that s killer.

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Yeah, so I get it.

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Yeah, I love that, and you know, like it is

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true because you know, back in the eighties, I remember

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watching what the outsiders would do to all these La bands,

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and like, it wasn't the band members that were like

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gonna fall apart, it was those outside forces making the

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band members.

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At war with each other.

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Right, So I love hearing how much you guys got

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are just having fun connected.

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That's the way music should be.

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And like you can tell you can tell, like when

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you go to a show, you can tell if the

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band is up there, you know, just dialing it in.

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Or if they're truly like brothers and having fun.

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Right.

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Yeah, Josie reminds me a lot of Jeff Keith. You know,

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Josey's from Memphis. Jeff Keith was from Oklahoma, you know

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what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I mean the key where

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you just says like, you know La and how they

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put all those bands together in LA and all the

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lawyers and sharks and record company people.

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Oh my god, it was this is organic, right yeah,

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And uh.

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I think we all come from different backgrounds and we

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can all connect and and so many levels. It's it's

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kind of corny, but it's true, you know.

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And Chris gets a bad rap because he's one of

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the nicest guys.

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He's one of the kindest hearted, misunderstood. He reminds me

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of Sam.

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That's such a great description too, Oh my god, oh god,

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that is that is the greatest description right there.

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I love Chris. I just talked to him an hour ago,

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so yeah, he is misunderstood, oh totally.

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And you know, like I mean, I'm going to say it,

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but that that other dude that starts with B had

440
00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.640
an ego bigger than anybody.

441
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:04.000
And I thought, well, that seems to go around, right,

442
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.119
I mean, uh huh, you know, I mean, like I said,

443
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.960
we can all relate to that. I think every one

444
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.240
of us may have something like that. Somebody that you

445
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.680
know is kind of a little out of order in

446
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.680
our world. Yeah, yeah, you know, Josie, I'm sure he

447
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:25.400
has one. You know, Pride goes before the fall, uh

448
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.200
huh uh huh. So I like, you gotta do the

449
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:30.160
right thing, man.

450
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.559
You got to do the right thing in life, and

451
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.319
that I think that's how you last in the music business.

452
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:39.240
To be honest, is like set aside all the bullshit

453
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.400
and like, to me, the true musicians at last, they're

454
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.319
not out there to be rock stars. They're out there

455
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:50.400
to be musicians. Difference, big difference.

456
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.680
And if you happen to be a rock star because people,

457
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.680
you know, see you as a rock star, okay, great.

458
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:03.839
But I I mean, you know, for us, you got

459
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.799
to be a good person totally, and and and and

460
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.720
and the guys in Terminal are all good guys. The

461
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.720
guys in Tesla are all good guys.

462
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:13.720
You know.

463
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:19.519
I can't speak for Josie's previous band or whatever, there's

464
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.720
the band that's out there now calling themselves Saliva.

465
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:25.920
I hate all that crap.

466
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.240
By the way, like so many bands have done it,

467
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:35.200
Like even I interviewed the grass Roots and none of

468
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:39.759
them were the original members, well until the interview, and

469
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:40.200
I'm like.

470
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:41.720
I mean, that's really weird.

471
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.079
I don't want to get too far into this, but

472
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.480
I will say that the fact that Josie Scott wrote

473
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.720
all those songs that everyone knows and associates to Saliva

474
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:57.000
and he can't go out and play under the name

475
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:03.079
Saliva because as a lit bullshit, and the guys that

476
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.599
are out there calling themselves Saliva weren't even on any

477
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.559
of those records, those first six platinum albums.

478
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:12.319
That's weird to me.

479
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.559
It's just, uh, it's it's it's sad, yeah, sad thing,

480
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:23.200
because you know, it'd be like somebody trying to call

481
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.119
themselves Tesla that wasn't in Tesla.

482
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:26.279
Mm hmm.

483
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.119
You know what I mean. It's like, that's all you

484
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.160
have is the legacy you create for yourself, and you know,

485
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:37.000
you pour yourself in to the heart and soul of

486
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.319
your songs, and you know, Josie did that, and whatever

487
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.799
the case may be of that thing. I mean, I

488
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:46.640
just think it's kind of sad that he can't go

489
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.839
out and play under the name Saliva when he is

490
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.359
the voice of Saliva and he wrote click click boom always.

491
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.319
It's stupid. Yeah, I would say that.

492
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.079
Yeah, I'm gladly saying and I was just talking in

493
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.519
the last interview. Have nothing to do with this, but

494
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.200
the fact of how, you know, how can an artist

495
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.240
sing a song that isn't their emotions and what their

496
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:13.799
thoughts and what they wrote?

497
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:15.559
Cover bands?

498
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.960
Yeah, exactly, you know, but you can't sing it. You

499
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.799
can't sing it with the same heart cover bands.

500
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.519
I'm all for him, But if you're gonna call yourself

501
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.279
whatever band and you didn't write all those songs or

502
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.559
create those records, then I I you know, like John

503
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.440
Lennon would say, how do you sleep?

504
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:43.799
Yeah, yeah, you know, And I just think you can't

505
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.599
possibly have the same emotion singing the song. And I

506
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.440
think emotion when you sing a song is what makes

507
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:50.880
the song.

508
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.200
It's the whole thing.

509
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.759
Yeah, it's your feelings.

510
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:02.000
How could you describe in your facial expressions, movements or

511
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.680
singing what somebody else's feeling.

512
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:06.799
That's the way I look at it.

513
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.160
Yeah, I know, well, you know, listen, getting back to

514
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:19.359
you know, Chris's former band and Josie's I can't even

515
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.759
say former band. I don't. I don't know how to

516
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:27.119
say it. But it's complicated. But whatever is happening right now,

517
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:32.759
it's just not right for for for I mean, at

518
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.440
least in Chris's band. Blackie Lawless was the singer of Wasp.

519
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:43.359
Blackie Lawless wrote all the lyrics in Josie's situation. There's

520
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:51.839
nobody in that band's from Saliva, you know, fifteen years later,

521
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.200
and if Wayne was in that band, then I could

522
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.799
I could see it. I could say, Okay, I understand that.

523
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.240
It's kind of like when uh doesn't piss off Bobby

524
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.160
or whatever, but if it does, so fucking what, I

525
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.359
don't care. I had a conversation with him and I said,

526
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.640
you know, listen, this isn't right. You know at this point,

527
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.599
it's like just you know, but it's a whole other thing.

528
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.279
I'm sure you know, blackber Mouth be all this tomorrow.

529
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.119
They just they just might because.

530
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.240
That's okay, I mean, listen, I'm only saying what's true.

531
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.039
It can't be It can't be much.

532
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.640
I'm not going to go out and say, hey, come

533
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.680
and see me. I'm in Saliva. I wasn't in SALIVEA

534
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.279
I didn't pay that right.

535
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.799
Well, I'm glad you're standing up for your band by.

536
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.240
What I feel is right, whether Josie was my friend

537
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.279
or not. If I didn't know Josie as a fan

538
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.039
of Saliva the band, and and and I will say this,

539
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.680
you know, and I don't care if it gets me

540
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.119
in trouble because I don't give a fuck as as

541
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.799
a fan of that band and and click click boom

542
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.519
and your disease and always and ladies and gentlemen, and

543
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.680
you know when Josie's saying hero with with Chad and

544
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.039
all that, I go see if I was to go

545
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.359
see that bend now, it's it's would be like me.

546
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.359
I I won't go see Foreigner today.

547
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.920
That's weird too, you know. I go see Lou Graham, right.

548
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.240
Songs, But nobody in Foreigner is from Foreigner. Nobody. I

549
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.880
don't think there's anybody from the guests who playing in

550
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.640
the Guests.

551
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.480
Who I interviewed them too. And that's absolutely true.

552
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.200
He certainly wasn't in the fucking guess who.

553
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:43.920
That's absolutely true.

554
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.319
And you know this is about Terminal. I don't want

555
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.359
to get up on a celtbox, but it is an injustice.

556
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:54.480
Well it is.

557
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.319
And now we have a great justice with Terminal because yeah, yeah,

558
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:04.200
because you guys are acting like true bandmates and that's

559
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:05.000
the way it should be.

560
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.160
Yeah, we are. I mean, you know, and we're writing

561
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:13.039
some some I think, some really good music and you know,

562
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.880
Josie's singing his ass off and he's you know, he's

563
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.839
throwing his a game out there lyrically. I mean, he

564
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.480
blows me away. The guy comes in here and blows

565
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.359
over in the corner over here right there, phones in

566
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.519
his notepad and an hour later he comes back with

567
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.680
like this thing and he's like, wow, dude, that it's

568
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.000
so inspiring. It's a lot of inspiration. You know. We

569
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.000
all inspire each other in the band.

570
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.039
Which is very cool, and I think that's amazing. That's

571
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.519
the only way it should be. And that you inspire

572
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.079
each other after all these years, tells me how little

573
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.279
ego gets in the way of this band.

574
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.200
Right, there's no ego. What it's like, what are we

575
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.000
going to be ego out to each guy exactly all.

576
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.599
We've all had platinum records, we've all had sold out concerts,

577
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.679
we all done the same thing. We relate to each other.

578
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.000
What are we gonna Hey, man, my Dick's bigger.

579
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:11.360
Than your.

580
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:14.400
Cares.

581
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.039
Yeah, that's it. That's it.

582
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:22.119
No egos with any any one of the five guys

583
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.559
that are working in this room together.

584
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.119
And it's going to be a great album when it

585
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.800
comes out. I'm so looking forward to this. Uh, you

586
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.119
guys are going to kill it. And just because just

587
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.880
because of the attitude to me, I think that's part

588
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:39.960
of the battle right there.

589
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:42.960
Thanks for having us, and thanks for allowing us to

590
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.719
speak a little truth and and uh, you know, I

591
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.800
can't wait for you guys to hear it. I hope

592
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.880
you like it. If you don't, there's nothing I can

593
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.880
do about it, you know what I mean, you know,

594
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.360
but I hope if you like it. We sure like

595
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.280
it and we've played it to and that's all that counts,

596
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.039
you know, And we're you know, bottom line, we're having

597
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.199
a good time with each other.

598
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.039
That's all that counts to me.

599
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.519
If you're having a good time and you like the music,

600
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.000
you're going to attract your tribe that will like it too.

601
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.400
I'll good man, because Josie he's got a whole collection

602
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.400
of fragrances and ship and he's been turning me on

603
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.800
to it. Josie's doing slick dude. Man, he look at it. Man.

604
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.280
I love it.

605
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.800
Man, he's all filed up and ship. I'm in my

606
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.480
hockey jersey. I love Josie, I love I love this energy.

607
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.360
You know, man, he wore some badass argyles socks the

608
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.880
other day. My game. Josey's gonna have to help me

609
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.199
with my threads and ship.

610
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.719
Though, is Josie. Are you gonna work on Chris?

611
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:51.360
Oh?

612
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:56.719
Man, as much as he'll allow me. I love Chris

613
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.320
though he Chris has got his own.

614
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.440
But that funny like that. You say that because Chris

615
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.400
was the one when we did we did a photo shoot.

616
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.519
He was the one cracking the whip on us. Hey man,

617
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.280
you gotta get in your stage clothes. Hey man, you

618
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.880
gotta do these ship Hey man, you gotta do that ship.

619
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.280
Come on, man, we're late. Let's go right. And you

620
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.559
wouldn't expect that from Chris, I know, right, he was

621
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.719
the one cracking the whip and ship.

622
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.159
Oh yeah, there you go.

623
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:31.519
Well that boy and him talk together. Seriously, They're like

624
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.000
two cartoon characters, those two together. I call him the

625
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:36.840
guitar Army.

626
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:38.760
Oh man, that's good.

627
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.400
Scuse they both just like whoa and you just go wow, man,

628
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:47.760
that's fucking cool. Right, They're very comical, the two of them.

629
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:53.800
I don't know, well, Chris has always been totally entertaining

630
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:54.440
for sure.

631
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:01.880
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, all right man, that's it. Man.

632
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.199
Let's you know, just have everybody check out you guys

633
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.960
and wait for the new music and uh man, it's

634
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.159
gonna be good and people are gonna love it. And

635
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:16.400
thanks for being on the adventures of pipe Man, right brother.

636
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:17.760
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637
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.559
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656
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657
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658
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659
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.920
so let's welcome to the show. Austin from Gunshine.

660
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.599
How are you, hey, good man, appreciate you having me, Hey.

661
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.320
Glad to have you and you guys are on the

662
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.719
road right now. Where are you at right now?

663
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:18.280
Right now?

664
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.079
We are in kind of near Cincinnati. We just played

665
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.519
last night at this venue called the Blue Note, and

666
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:24.360
it was awesome.

667
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:24.480
Man.

668
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.760
It was a packed house and a bunch of people

669
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.440
bought merch and people out there singing every single lyrics.

670
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.280
So yeah, it was fun. Man, we're out here doing

671
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:33.119
the doing the thing.

672
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:34.280
I love that.

673
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.159
I've heard it at Venue too. That's like an iconic

674
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.599
menus and venue, so that's cool.

675
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.199
Yeah, they got I think they just had Jack All.

676
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.880
They got George Lynch coming in I think tomorrow night.

677
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.280
So yeah, it was a cool spot.

678
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:47.480
All right.

679
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:51.400
So you guys have this new single and no pun

680
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:55.199
intended single looks good on you. What a great not

681
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.800
only spring break party song, but also it gave me

682
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:06.360
flashbacks of the eighties, you know, and flashbacks from the

683
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:11.480
music perspective, not necessarily the scene, but just that that

684
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.559
kind of party, fun music that we need right now.

685
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:15.840
Yeah.

686
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:18.000
Man, it's all in there. All those vibes are in there.

687
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.480
And when we first started the band. It's funny when

688
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.880
Jordan first came over when I was auditioned and singers,

689
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.280
he was like, well, what are you kind of going for?

690
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.559
And I'm like, man, it's like think about you know

691
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:27.239
Van Halen.

692
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.119
It makes you want to party and have a good time,

693
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.960
and especially I started the band basically on the heels

694
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.079
of COVID, So there's a lot of dark, depressing kind

695
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.159
of times at that time, and I was like, man,

696
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:37.880
I just want to have a sound and a vibe

697
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.639
that makes you want to, you know, have a good

698
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.639
time party, kind of gets your mind off all the

699
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:44.719
stress going on in the world and stuff.

700
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:46.599
So you know, that's another song like that.

701
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.000
It's spring break Party anthem and definitely got the Florida

702
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.960
vibes in there a little we don't really call it country,

703
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.480
more like swamp rock, which is you know, yeah, it's

704
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.320
got some of the hairband vibes, but with a little

705
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.920
bit more grit, kind of nasty or you know, sound

706
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:02.719
blended in there.

707
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:10.239
And I also believe more musicianship than the Sunset Strip

708
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.119
hair metal bands like. To me, it's got that party vibe,

709
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.760
but it's also got the killer musician ship, so it's

710
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:19.679
not like a gimmick. You're a true musician.

711
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.079
Oh thanks man. So my thing was always like, again

712
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.760
to kind of reference Van Haleen a little bit. I

713
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.000
know a new not from Extreme talks about this too.

714
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.679
But when you take a catchy having a catchy like

715
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.559
pop rock kind of song with a big chorus and everything,

716
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.039
but then doing these little things in between that like

717
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.000
when you peel back the layers and under the covers

718
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.079
where you're kind of doing, you know, doing flashy stuff

719
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.599
on the guitar or whatever as long as it fits

720
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.039
a song. But you know, it's not so much like, oh,

721
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.280
just strum chords and then guitar solo and whatever. Like

722
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.039
like if you listen to Van Halen or some there's

723
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:54.960
all these little easter eggs throughout the song.

724
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.480
So yeah, kind of inspired by stuff.

725
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.559
Like that where it's like, you know, like I said,

726
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.480
when you peel back the layers, there's there's a lot

727
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.440
to it, but it's still a palatable, catchy, you know,

728
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:06.239
pop rock.

729
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:06.679
And roll song.

730
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.440
Absolutely, So tell us a little bit about what happened

731
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.800
during COVID that made you want to start this project.

732
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.639
You know, we know the obvious of what happened, but

733
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:22.119
what happened for you personally that created this creativity.

734
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:23.559
Yeah.

735
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.280
So I've always been really into the creation of music

736
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.760
and writing songs. I've always heard ideas and stuff in

737
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.559
my head and always kind of had the vision to

738
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.199
sort of start my own thing, and it just it

739
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.760
takes so many years and time to find the right

740
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.679
pieces to kind of get that off the ground because

741
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.119
I was really looking for an X factor type voice,

742
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.280
you know, someone that love them or hate them, you

743
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.159
know that it's us as soon as you hear us

744
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:48.920
come on. So I was really trying to find that,

745
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.000
which that's not an easy thing to find, so that

746
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:52.920
takes year. So I had a really high standard of

747
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.159
what I was trying to create and the sound that

748
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.440
was in my head. So in the meantime, you know,

749
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.920
I was going to music school out in Hollywood and

750
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.360
a musicians institute out there in California. And when I graduated,

751
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.039
I got the opportunity to tour with a band called

752
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.280
New Year's Day and we we did arena tours with

753
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.280
Hailstorm and in this moment, you know, godsmack and that

754
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.599
was awesome. But you know, when so when the world

755
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.239
shut down with the COVID thing, we were on tour

756
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.079
with New Year's Day and it was we flew home

757
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:26.559
from Germany two days before everything shut down. Wow, but

758
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:28.719
you know, the silver lining and everything was it kind

759
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.960
of brought all the touring to a halt and allowed

760
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.000
me to really, you know, reflect and kind of get

761
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.920
this whole thing off the ground. And sure enough, when

762
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.480
I went back to Florida, someone said, hey, you should

763
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.159
try this guy. He plays in the local dueling piano bar,

764
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.039
and I think he would sound great for what you're

765
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.760
trying to do. So and of course I had tried

766
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.000
singers in La I tried singers all over the country.

767
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.079
But of course I go back home to Florida and

768
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.159
you know, small kind of a small town in Pensacola,

769
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.880
and you know, and that's where I find Jordan's.

770
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.719
So it's just kind of crazy how it all happened

771
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:01.559
that it is pretty cool.

772
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.559
And you know, I love your story because I said

773
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:10.079
after and during COVID that the blessing of COVID was

774
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.760
it would give musicians the chance to jump off the

775
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.480
hamster wheel and actually be able to create again, because

776
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.400
it's got it got so busy that you never really

777
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.679
had a chance to get creative like you may have

778
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.480
when you first started in music. And it's almost like

779
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.320
going back to that when it was fresh and new

780
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:31.119
and exciting.

781
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.239
Exactly, yeah, exactly, Yeah, there was something about you know

782
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.840
that time, it's like, you know, you couldn't really people

783
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:40.480
weren't touring, so it's like there was a lot of

784
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.400
people writing and stuff like that, but it was you know,

785
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.480
I think in another way, it was kind of hard

786
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.480
for some people to be inspired because of all the

787
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:50.000
you know, the madness going on in the world and stuff,

788
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.119
so totally it was almost Yeah, it was kind of

789
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.360
a little bit of both. But for me, I this

790
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.199
was kind of a thing that I'd wanted to start

791
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.559
for so many years, So I had all these ideas saved,

792
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.239
and I would actually work on demos that became the

793
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.119
first album for Gunshine while I was on tour New

794
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:05.599
Year's Day.

795
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.360
I would go in the green room and kind of

796
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:08.039
record stuff.

797
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.559
I didn't want to just wait around until I found

798
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.039
all the right pieces, so I was actively putting things

799
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.719
together even before the band started.

800
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:16.800
I love that.

801
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.039
And so how have you felt the experience has been

802
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:26.239
with Gunshine? Is it everything that you were thinking it

803
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:27.719
would be or is it more?

804
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:29.960
Ah?

805
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.119
Man, it's been going absolutely killer, you know it.

806
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.039
We just played last night, like I said, to see

807
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.320
people singing the lyrics and stuff back to us.

808
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.400
It's a whole wild period.

809
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.079
Yeah, because that's kind of what I always sort of

810
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.719
dreamed of, and I love songwriting, and it's just it's

811
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.960
just really cool to you know, the rate that it's

812
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.039
gone in just a few years is super humbling. So yeah, man,

813
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.119
I would say it's going great and everything everything that

814
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:56.880
I was trying to do everything I wanted. But we're

815
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.960
just trying to keep keep raising the bar and put

816
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:01.480
forward even more from here.

817
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.039
So, and speaking of the eighties, what does it feel

818
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.119
like when you get kudos from guys like Joe Elliott

819
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:10.400
and Steven Piercy.

820
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:13.760
Yeah, it's another like surreal moment.

821
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.159
Man, It's just crazy, Like you grow up on music

822
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:17.679
like that, and I always say I was born in

823
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:19.920
the wrong decades. So I love you know, def Leppard

824
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.280
and and Rat and everything like that. So you know,

825
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.840
it's just it's further I guess whatever you want to say,

826
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.800
validation or or confirmation or whatever, it is that that yeah,

827
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.039
we're on you know, we're onto something and that that uh,

828
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.199
the sound that was you know, that was kind of

829
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.400
circulating for us is something that resonates with people. So

830
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.519
and especially guys like that that you really respect it,

831
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:45.239
it means a lot.

832
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.280
Yeah, Like for a guy like Joe Elliott to sit

833
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.760
there and say he could just said oh, it was

834
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.400
good music, but he's like, wow, was I thoroughly entertained

835
00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:00.519
by this record? It's fantastic like those adjectives, let's say

836
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.400
a lot, and then to compare you to early gin

837
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.960
R and maybe even Buck Jerry, that's pretty wild.

838
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.840
Yeah, I know, man, it's it's crazy like uh. And

839
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:12.960
like I said, those you know, def Leopard is a

840
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.440
big part of the sound, you know, all the melodies

841
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.360
and how Mutt Lang was kind of producing everything. He's

842
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:22.239
a big influence for me as well. So yeah, man, wild,

843
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:23.440
it would be cool if we got a tour with

844
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:24.559
def Leppard at some point.

845
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.480
There it is you could have maybe you could have

846
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.760
like a tour it would be rat def Leopard and

847
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:31.320
you guys.

848
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:32.199
There you go.

849
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:33.199
I'm all about it.

850
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.480
And then you could get Steven and Joe to come

851
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.840
up and perform a song with you guys.

852
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.119
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, we'll speak it into existence.

853
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:44.400
There you go.

854
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.360
So what else you got going on for the rest

855
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.280
of twenty twenty six? Up the listeners have to look

856
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:50.559
out for.

857
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.559
Yeah, we're just busy touring. Man, We're gonna be uh.

858
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:55.880
You know, we have the new record, Grand Rising, and

859
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.599
we're super pumped about it. It's it's it's all over

860
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.119
the place in the best of ways.

861
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:01.320
You know.

862
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.440
We got a couple of ballads, we have an acoustic song,

863
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.840
we have heavier songs, we have some stuff that kind

864
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.639
of nods back to the first album a little bit.

865
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.639
We had the last song on the records called Table Dancing,

866
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.199
and it's eight minutes long and it's like five songs.

867
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.000
In one's there's like a Frank Sinatra section and a

868
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:19.400
seventies disco section.

869
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.039
So we had a ton of fun making this album.

870
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.920
So the really the thing this year is just we're

871
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:28.599
sort of touring and getting this album out there nice.

872
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.440
And I love that you have all different types of

873
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.679
kind of lack of a better thing, play it like

874
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:40.239
genres within your music, because that's what I think makes

875
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.239
it today is the blending of a bunch of I

876
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.880
think metal and rock in general has gotten so like

877
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.920
finite with the subgenres and the micro genres that it's

878
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.960
so refreshing me a band like yours that can just

879
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.159
mix things up and just play whatever you feel instead

880
00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.920
of going by some script or some.

881
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:03.639
Formula exactly.

882
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.280
That's one of the biggest parts when I started this band,

883
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.239
was like making sure that it was always done that

884
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.960
way and just writing whatever comes out. And I just

885
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.239
love music so there's all kinds, you know, like my

886
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:16.440
dad used to play like a beach Boy CD in

887
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.840
the in the car or like Casey in the Sunshine Band.

888
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.239
And then you know, we're my sister and I were

889
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.239
nineties kids, so we were hearing some of the pop

890
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.199
stuff that was coming out at the time and just

891
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:28.719
you know, hard rock and metal and you can blend

892
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.639
all that stuff and that's what's cool about it. It's like,

893
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.480
to me, I get bored if it's just one thing,

894
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.519
but it's like, what makes it What makes it cool

895
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:37.960
for me is like, well, what if we took like,

896
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.639
you know, the edginess of this, but combined it with

897
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.719
the melody of that and then you know, just I

898
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.360
don't know, man's that's what makes it fun.

899
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:45.400
Yeah.

900
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.800
I think Olie from bringing in the rites and said

901
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:49.280
it best when they would giving him a lot of

902
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.519
crap for like doing all different types of music now

903
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.559
and it's like, why do I want to write the

904
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.679
same song over and over again? And I think about them,

905
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.360
like any artist that's been doing for a while, that

906
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.960
would get like drudgery instead of fun if you're doing

907
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.159
the same thing you did all through the years.

908
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.800
Totally, totally and that's the biggest thing is like, you know,

909
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.559
the first album came out, and again it was it

910
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.880
was years of work even before the band started. So

911
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.199
you're talking some of these riffs may have been from

912
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.559
around ten years ago. And then you know, you grow

913
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.320
as a person, you grow as an artist, and you're

914
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.440
inspired by different things as the years go on. So

915
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.239
as we keep putting out more music because of what

916
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.559
we have that mindset of just writing whatever comes out,

917
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:31.960
things are gonna sound.

918
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:33.519
Different, you know. And that's the way I always wanted

919
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:34.079
to do things.

920
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.360
And you know, as opposed to maybe like an AC DC,

921
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.639
where every album's gonna sound similar.

922
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:41.559
They do it so well. You know, they have their

923
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:43.679
sound and they do that so so well.

924
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.119
But for me, it's like it's more fun when you

925
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.519
kind of keep mixing it up and and and yeah,

926
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.360
like I said, so that's that's what makes it fun

927
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:51.599
for me.

928
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.519
Yeah, And I mean that's the way I am.

929
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.320
Like if people are described me, they might think I'm

930
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:01.519
like schizophrenic because that so much they like different parts

931
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:04.519
of my personality and likes and and stuff like that.

932
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:09.480
And I think that's what makes it interesting, fun and

933
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:14.400
gives us the great music because you're being authentic to yourself.

934
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.679
So when you're authentic, we can read that totally.

935
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:20.800
Yep, one hundred percent. I've always thought that too.

936
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.559
And the audience is smart and they can pick off,

937
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.880
pick up on if you're not being authentic, and if

938
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.159
you're if you're just phoning it in or trying to

939
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.800
create a sound, uh, because it's something you think is

940
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.119
gonna sell and all this, you know, it's it's that

941
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.039
just that takes all the all the fun away from it.

942
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.119
So but if you're having fun and you're creating, and

943
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:42.880
you know, you're laughing while you're writing because something you

944
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.000
think is so good or whatever, you know, whatever it

945
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.519
may be. But if you have that feeling, it's usually

946
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:49.679
other people resonate to nice.

947
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.960
So tell everybody how they can connect to you, guys

948
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.239
on socials, how they can reach your merch store because

949
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.920
that's most important to me. They can't listen to my

950
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.840
show and Leslie buy your merch It's the only way

951
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:01.840
you get to the next town.

952
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.199
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you, man.

953
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.199
So Gunshine band dot Com is the website and then

954
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.920
if you type in Gunshine across Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,

955
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.119
you'll find us, but I think it's Gunshine Band on

956
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.440
Instagram as well, so and you'll find the merch. It's

957
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.079
in the if you go to the website and just

958
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.840
click merch, you'll find it. Uh, it's in all of

959
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.039
our social media bios. You'll see the link and you

960
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.159
can you can click and find it from there.

961
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.559
Cool. Any final words you want to leave our listeners

962
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:30.360
with that we haven't covered already.

963
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.480
Now, man, just appreciate everyone's support so much. And it's

964
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.199
just the beginning, man, We're just getting started. So check

965
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.599
out the new songs, check out the new record, Grand Rising.

966
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:39.679
Like I said, we're really.

967
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.000
Proud of it. So uh yeah, man, I just really

968
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:43.800
appreciate everyone for listening.

969
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.199
Well nice, Well, we love your new music and you

970
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.119
keep rocking on across the country given it to us. Yeah, man,

971
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.079
thanks again, thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man.

972
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:56.119
Absolutely thanks for having me.

973
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:01.519
Thank you for listening to the Adventure of Patement on

974
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.920
w for c UI Radio.

975
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:11.840
Mm HM