Sept. 15, 2025

Pipeman Interviews St. Lucia at Bourbon & Beyond 2025

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Hi, you love Larnt.

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Yes, that's true.

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For see why for you.

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Your this it's pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio and now I'm here.

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With Patty and Jean from the band Saint Lucia.

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Nice. Yes, and I love your look.

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Oh, thank you?

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Whose idea is it? It must be yours?

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No, actually we worked with a friend of ours.

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I'm trying to say, man, it was say she told you.

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It was a collaboration with Xander ferred a friend of

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ours and us basically, And I love it because I

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don't have to worry about what to wear. Isn't that

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c Yes, it's like ten minutes to showtime, No no worries.

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We have her a red and a wye outfits of

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the only decision is red or white?

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And what picked red today?

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We wore white yesterday.

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There it is. I love it.

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The white sweaty so yeah.

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That one that's to get recycled exactly. But I love

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the look though.

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It's so cool, not literally though, like how do you

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play and perform in this heat?

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In that especially him?

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You're gonna be hot, You're gonna sweat, and it doesn't

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matter what I wear. I'm gonna be completely drenched, so

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it might as well be drenched in a towel.

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There you go. I love it.

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And you know, when you're up on stage too and

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you're getting drenched, you don't really think about it because

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you're in the zone, and I think it just propels

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you even more.

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Oh, this is my favorite part about a show. Get

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sweaty and like, go love it.

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That's you're the second artist this week and has said

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the exact words like they want to be sweaty up

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in stage.

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I think if you're not sweaty, something's wrong.

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You're standing still and playing a studio album on the stage.

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I think the only show we ever played where I

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didn't sweat was we played snow Globe Festival in Lake

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Tahoe once and it was like negative ten degrees.

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Celsius or something.

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How are you playing that?

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We could My hands were frozen.

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I kept on There was like a heater like with fire,

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like spitting fire behind me, and I kept putting my

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hands in the heater because my hands were they wouldn't move.

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I was like, I know, my hands on the keyboard

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have to change right now, but it's not doing it.

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So I would like stick them in the fire and

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then come back out. It was insane, actually, yeah, pretty brutal.

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So tell me about your part two, newest part of

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your double album Masterpiece.

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All right, I'll do my best.

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So yeah.

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So we're in the process of releasing a double album.

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We released we released it separately, the two parts of it.

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The first part came out earlier this year. The second

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part is coming out at the end of this year.

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The first part is more influenced by the sixties and seventies,

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a bit more kind of indie psychedelic kind of thing.

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It's called Fatimokhanda Dawn.

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The second one is called Fatimaghanda Dusk and is more

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a kind of exploration of dance music and pop music.

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See.

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I love that, And that's what I was saying before

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your double album Masterpiece, Part two of your double album Masterpiece,

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and I love how you had part one as Dawn

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and part.

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Two as Dusk. I just thought it was brilliant.

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Thank you, appreciate that.

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But now I think it's even more brilliant that it's

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like almost two separate genres. Yes, because I just don't

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like how artists are boxed into a genre like thank

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you artist expression and it shouldn't. You shouldn't be limited

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to what kind of music you can play.

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Totally.

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I totally agree.

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I think there's a lot of artists that I like

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who do the same thing over and over. I think

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that's a skill in a way. But I do think

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like there's an overrepresentation right now of artists that that

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really sound the same or very similar across the discography,

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because I think it's easier for the algorithm to understand

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that music and to know who to recommend that too

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and what plays to put it on.

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And I think we love what we do.

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We're very proud of it, but I think it's it

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is harder for these kind of like technological AI systems

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to just know where to put on music because it's

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I think there is a joining line through all of it.

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I think there is a certain sound to it, but

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it is pretty different, like you said, But that's not.

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Why we do it, you know what I mean?

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Like it comes like for me, it's just you have

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a certain time. I always call it the time capsule.

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You have your creative for that period of time, and whatever.

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Comes out is put in this time capsule.

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And that's what's so beautiful about it, and like maybe

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one year something comes out, in the next year is

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something completely different, and ten years later it's something completely

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different again. So I think that's the beauty of art

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and music in general, that you can capture what is

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there at the time.

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Well you know why that makes so much sense? Okay,

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So I have my favorite types of music, but as

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a listener, we all listen to different music depending on

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what mood we're in, what vibe we want at that

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moment in time. So it's like, why should an artist

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be boxed in too, And why wouldn't you want as

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you're evolving as an artist to just test your limits,

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Like you were saying, artists like do the same thing

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over and over again, I would be bored.

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Even if I love.

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The music, I would be bored because I wouldn't want

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to try something different. Perfect example is a band that's

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headlined next week at the same venue at Louder than

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Life called Bring Me to Horizon.

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They've gotten a lot of flak.

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Lately because of all the type of music they've been

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putting out for the past few years, and all the

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gatekeepers were like, you're supposed to be a deathcore band,

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not a pop band, not an electronic band no of

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this and only the lead singer. He In an interview,

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he said, why do I want to write the same

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song over and over again?

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Yeah, and that's brilliant.

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It goes back to Dylan bringing out the electric guitar

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and just people thinking that like artists cater to them.

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But the reason you actually like an artist is not

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because they're catering. It's because they show you something you

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never thought you even wanted. That's I think we were

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all here to do for better or worse and risking

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our asses. Like just being artists in this day and

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age is because it's a way of exploring yourself. Like

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there's things I'm probably gonna write that I would never

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think I was gonna write, and those, to me are

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always like the best ideas, of the best Eureka moments

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is when something arrives and you're just like, WHOA, this

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feels completely outside of anything I ever thought i'd write.

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And that shows the elements of personal growth as well.

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I think I was gonna hit on that what you

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just said, because that is what it is personal growth.

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If you never grow out of that box, there is

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no personal growth.

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So you know, kudos and look at Okay, we're getting deep, man,

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I know it's getting pretty pretty deeper.

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Maybe this age like that's where what happens. I know,

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I love it.

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I know right Well, look at Azsie Okay, yeah, when

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I started listening at Ozzie a million years ago. Would

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I have ever contemplate that he would have done a

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with Elton John No? Would I have ever contemplated posts Malone? No? Yeah,

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and he did both recently. It's like those are two

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different spectrums and he did well. He did collapse with

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a lot. I think it's an artist.

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You just got to be you totally.

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And we were talking before about the algorithms, but was

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it really different before the algorithms. Record labels used to

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it too. Record labels were always well what genre are you?

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Oh?

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I play all kinds of genre. No, you can't say

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that you can't do that, and why can't you?

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Yeah? I know. Fuck.

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It does make it more difficult for the marketing person,

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but I don't care.

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It's just like, that's just not art. If you're doing

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it for the marketing, it's just not that different.

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No that, And I am a big believer, especially as

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somebody that sat with bands in the eighties. While they

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were signed with record labels telling them how to do

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their music. I'm like, I think the business people need

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to be there because that's how you get somewhere. But

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they need to stay to business people in the artist

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need to stay to artists. Yeah, and that's where I

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think that's where you draw the line. Artists should be

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have total creative control. That doesn't mean you don't get

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advice from other artists like producers and stuff like that.

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But the business people they don't know the art, they

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know the business. That's my opinion.

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Yeah, I totally agree.

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And the thing is, artists have a tendency to go

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against what people in suits tell them to do.

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So we're like, we're children.

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We're basically children because our children are the same, right, Like,

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don't do that, don't pull the middle finger.

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What are they doing?

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You tell them that, I tell them, they just want

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to do it, And so I think it's the same

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with artists.

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And I think, yeah, I think you're right.

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So we're not old, we're big babies.

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There it is.

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Yes, see, that's better. I think that's better. Look at

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Ringo Storry yesterday. I was amazement. He's in his mid

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eighties and he was doing jumping jacks on stage and

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running around the stage amazing. Never know, like, and I

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think that's what happens when you really really enjoy expressing

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your art.

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Maybe it literally gives you life. Yeah, told that she

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gives you life.

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Yeah, So when did this all happen? When did you decide?

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What was it that made you decide to go this route?

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Both of you?

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You mean, like in general with Saint Lucia.

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Which and it's not the outfit but music in Oh,

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we've been dating for a long time and being together

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for a long time.

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So twenty three years.

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Yeah, we met at school, right, I didn't even make

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it twenty three years with two wa Well, this is us.

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We met at school and then actually, for the longest time,

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we kind of we tried to avoid working together because

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everybody tells you it's bad for you, it's bad for business,

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bad for what I know. And then at one point

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we got to the point, because we're working together all

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the time, we just said fuck it, and then things

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started happening once we embraced that.

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So that's great.

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It's been a while.

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I have this viewpoint. You hear it all the time.

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I'd never work with my spouse I want to spend

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that much time. Then you're with the wrong person, like

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when you want to be with them all the time,

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and especially in music, why would you want to be

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with somebody, Well, they're on the road and maybe you're

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on the road too, but separately when you could do

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it together.

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I know. And now we've expanded, So now we've got

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two little ones too, and they're on the road with

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us too.

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We're just growing.

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I love it. And then they could be the next generation.

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Yeah, we'll put them, We'll put them in there.

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Have they shown interest yet?

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Like musically, Indy our first one. He's very musical.

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Charlie I think needs to have a drum kit and

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then he just needs to bang on stuff right now.

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But who knows, Like we're not boring.

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Charlie's a lefty Charlie's eyes. He's a lefty who was

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born on Friday the thirteenth.

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Wow, I know.

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And what's the other weird thing about him? There's some

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other weird thing about him. We love him And whenever

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he counts, he skips the number thirteen.

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I don't know. So I think he's an interesting case and.

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I think he's he will surprise us all.

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Yeah, he'll surprise us all. But we are not music.

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We are not forcing anything down their throats.

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I love that too.

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We just have music around. We have an open door

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in the studio. They come in, they play stuff, they do,

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They can do whatever they want and if they show interest,

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like I think I want to sit down with Indian

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do a bit more like piano and stuff. But I

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never like want him to like miss out on the

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love of it, you know.

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So and if you force them, yeah, they're not going

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to have fun with him.

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You happen or game.

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Exactly will yeah, and they're always surrounded by it, so

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we'll see where that goes. There, you go, I might

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just make him become a business person though I don't know,

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yeah exactly.

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I was like, do the numbers please.

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Right, Okay, So tell everybody how they can reach out

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to you guys on socials on the web. Buy your

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merch because they can't listen to my show unless say,

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buy your merch because that's how you get the next gig,

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and that's how you.

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Can feed the kids at these festivals too.

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True.

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Yeah, we were pretty early on the social media. Bandwagons

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are Instagram. Our main thing is Instagram. Still, like we

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never really super got into the TikTok thing. But our

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Instagram is just at Saint Lucia one word St l

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u c I a website for merch. I mean it's

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just www dot St. Lucia, New York dot com and

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all the merches on there. And you can also buy

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via Spotify. I think it's like on, but preferctly go

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to our actual.

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Store, I say so, yeah, but we're all over.

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On YouTuber when all the platforms we're out there nice.

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Yes, definitely go buy their album on their site, yes,

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because otherwise they don't even get enough to get one

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of those butt little round bubble gums in the.

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Bubble protion exactly.

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Yeah, so have a million streams and you could buy

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a half a gumball.

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Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy.

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It's stupid.

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Who would have known that Lars was right when when

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everybody was complaining because he complained about Napster Here we are.

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Did you hear about this new podc cost startup, This

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AI podcast startup that's aiming aiming to produce like a

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thousand podcast episodes per day with AI and have like

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AI personalities, and it costs them like one dollar per

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episode so no matter what happens, it's a win.

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For them, and I think it sucks.

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Yeah, me too.

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I didn't even why would you listen to that? Why

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would anyone.

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And the whole there's artists out there creating music with AI.

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You're not an artist if you're creating music with AI.

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I know I want the real thing me too.

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And let's go back to rock and roll.

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No doubt, that's what we need right there.

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Let's get sweaty. That's it.

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And getting sweaty right.

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Now, I know, I know you could definitely get sway

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in Louisville. So but anyway, do you have any final

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words you want to leave the listeners with.

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No, we're just very excited to play here in Louisville again.

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It's been a while also, I think we're here for

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Forkshool Festival.

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Like years ago, did we play our own show here?

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I can't remember. We've been doing this a long time.

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Things I know, right that they all swirl in your head.

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Yeah exactly, But no, we're just very happy to be

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here playing at festival with our band and the people

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we love and.

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Have the kids here. We just feel very blessed. It's great.

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Well, we're blessed to have you and thanks for being

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on the adventures of pipe Man here at Bourban beyond.

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Thanks for having us

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man

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on w for CUI Radio.

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