PipemanRadio Interviews Ancient Entities About PIERCED BY OBSIDIAN

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:20.399
Hi, you have done to censure. Wow for you, young ro Why

2
00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:24.640
come America. It's time for the
Adventures of pipe Man on W four c

3
00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:29.239
Y dot com. West Pompeas is
number one internet radio station. Here's your

4
00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:56.560
host, the pipe Man. This
is the pipe Man here on the Adventures

5
00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.320
pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And say about our next guest.

6
00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:06.480
They played at a festival recently.
That is a killer festival. I was

7
00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:11.200
actually gonna be there, but then
conflicts happened, so on bum that I

8
00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:17.359
missed their set. So let's welcome
to the show, Ancient Entities. How

9
00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:23.799
are you? I like the man? So yeah, I mean talk to

10
00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.920
me about Let's start there. Let's
talk to me about Milwaukee Metal Fest.

11
00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:34.599
How was that? Milwaukee Metalfest was
great? Man? The room was packed,

12
00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:40.079
like you know, it was just
in a really amazing time. Everyone

13
00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:46.480
had lots of energy, hospitality was
good. They treated all the artists really

14
00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.439
well. Man, Like, I
have nothing but good things to say about

15
00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:55.400
that festival. I love hearing stuff
like that because it's not always the case

16
00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.719
in the festival. So oh,
that's great for sure. I know the

17
00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.159
person that does the pr runs the
media for it, she's like one of

18
00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:08.199
my favorite people, so it must
have ran well yeah, yeah, absolutely,

19
00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:14.680
I don't think anyone really had any
complaints all the time. I love

20
00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:20.400
that and that venue is like an
iconic venue, so that that's pretty cool.

21
00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.840
And you're local to there, right
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

22
00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:30.439
from Milwaukee. Our other band members
are from all over. We got guys

23
00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:35.240
in Chicago, guy in Madison,
and then our bass player Lukey kind of

24
00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:40.520
lives in between US and Racine.
So so there's low rivalry there. And

25
00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:45.639
then I would assume, because I
know my experience, well none of them.

26
00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:49.560
You said, we're in Minnesota,
and I know that's the big rivalry.

27
00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no rivalries here.

28
00:02:54.759 --> 00:03:02.120
I did a festival there you probably
know it called Northern Invasion. Yeah,

29
00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.879
and that was the first time in
my life actually I was to Milwaukee or

30
00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:12.719
to Wisconsin general. Like I'm originally
from Jersey and I remember going there.

31
00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.360
I'm like, man, what am
I going to Wisconsin for? Because like

32
00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:22.840
outside of Wisconsin, everybody just thinks
all there is is cheese. Yeah,

33
00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:29.520
But then I went there. I
just have to say is because I love

34
00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.520
your state. I love your the
town, that whole area, the people.

35
00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.039
But what it was pretty funny because
I was camping there and I met

36
00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.080
some really cool people there, now
my lifelong friends that are from there,

37
00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.280
and we were talking. They were
talking all night about the whole uh you

38
00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:57.719
know, difference between Minnesota people and
Wisconsin people. So but what cool place

39
00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:01.080
and what a cool place to play
a fest or any show for that matter.

40
00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:08.039
So and then you have your new
album dropping here in June and you

41
00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:14.240
just released the single from it,
Pierced by Obsidian. Yep, yep,

42
00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:20.360
tell us about that song. It
is a pretty badass song, So Pierced

43
00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:26.079
by Obsidian. I believe this one
is our vocalist, as like all the

44
00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.800
major storytelling here, but I think
that was about some form of like Obsidian

45
00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:40.079
tipped arrow that I can't remember what
race or culture exactly, but I think

46
00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.639
it was Mayan. But they all
like shot the arrows and add like a

47
00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.560
target or whatever, and pretty much
what the songs about. So it's like,

48
00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:53.360
you know, brutal, brutal song
and obviously about history because that's pretty

49
00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.639
much what all of our songs are
about, our mythology or something in between.

50
00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:03.279
That I love here that too,
because for people outside the metal world,

51
00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:09.680
they don't realize that a lot of
metal, you know, they think

52
00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.199
it's about certain things, but it's
really about history and factual stuff and telling

53
00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.360
stories about things that actually happened.
Yeah. Yeah, even philosophies and stuff

54
00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:21.319
like that. I mean, look
at most of Death like that. A

55
00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:25.360
lot of that is just you know, philosophical stuff. You know, Chuck

56
00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:30.319
is asking and it's pretty it's pretty
cool. Yeah, definitely. And you

57
00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:35.040
know, I just realized I screwed
up because I have a necklace I just

58
00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:42.639
blowing Costa Rica that is made of
like an obsidian like looks almost like an

59
00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.879
arrowhead the way it is. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean I should

60
00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.759
have worn that for the interview just
to Yeah, for sure, man,

61
00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:56.439
Yeah, that's really cool. Right. So I'm like when you're when I

62
00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:00.000
see that, I'm thinking about because
I'm thinking about this necklace I have.

63
00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:05.839
And literally I could take that thing
and pierce somebody if they pissed me off

64
00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.560
the city and gets sharp. That's
for sure, no doubt. And so

65
00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.920
tell us about the rest of the
album. This the album is called Echoes

66
00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:21.680
of Annihilation. Yeah, love love
the name. That's pretty cool. Tell

67
00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:28.319
us all about it. So,
I mean, like I said before,

68
00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:33.839
most of our stuff is historical or
something about something historical or mythology. We

69
00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:40.240
try and capture that feel throughout pretty
much the entire album, you know,

70
00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:45.319
like when I present the songs to
her vocal spry and he kind of has

71
00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.639
a couple of ideas or things he
wants to talk about. Rather it be

72
00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:55.680
like, you know, like the
Imynoki Gods, you know, Samerian Mesopotamia,

73
00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:00.160
and we have a lot of Greek
mine and tech on this album,

74
00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:05.680
but that'll change as we write more
music and stuff like that. We're just

75
00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:10.160
kind of go with a couple of
general themes and just kind of pick place,

76
00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.199
you know, stuff to talk about
from all around the world. This

77
00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:19.000
album is definitely more of a I
wouldn't go as far as say, like

78
00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:25.040
brutal brutal death metal, but it
has a mix of a lot of thrash

79
00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:31.680
like brutal death and like technical elements
of death metal in it. That and

80
00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:39.360
and that that came because I have
a lot of different music genres I'm into.

81
00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.399
I'm in a lot of into like
all all kinds of metal, you

82
00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.879
know, Like outside of that,
I listened to other stuff too, but

83
00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.279
I kind of composed it a way
where it all fits together, but it's

84
00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:56.879
not exactly Uh. I hate to
say it's not exactly one style because it

85
00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:01.519
is, but uh, it definitely
has a different feel and certain parts of

86
00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.879
the songs, like if we're writing
about the ai Naki, we're gonna have

87
00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.000
a little more mystery, so we
kind of put darker tones to the rifts

88
00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.199
over those parts and stuff like that. But overall it keeps like a real

89
00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:20.120
tribal deeal to it. I guess
I dig that that's cool, and I

90
00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.600
was when I was listening to it. So I'm an old school thrash metal

91
00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.319
head that also likes death and blackmat
all from the beginning, you know,

92
00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.360
And so yeah, I could hear
the thrash in it, and I was

93
00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.279
like, yeah, I could get
down with this. I love when you

94
00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.720
take genres and mix them together.
This is something that wasn't done in the

95
00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:48.879
very beginning, and everything was like
gatekeepers and keep everything separate, ye,

96
00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.720
And I think nowadays that wouldn't even
work nowadays, even though that's not necessarily,

97
00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:01.840
it's still the case in some areas
because there's so many bands now that

98
00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:09.720
if you're not mixing and blending genres, you're not sounding unique. No,

99
00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.399
matter what, because it's like if
you just use this formula, like this

100
00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.840
is death metal, this is black
metal, this is thrash metal, and

101
00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.039
like go by that formula and everybody's
just gonna sound the same. Like the

102
00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.240
Big four thrash they didn't all sound
the same. And certainly, you know,

103
00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.360
band like Possessed was like was it
death metal, Yes, it was

104
00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:37.399
the beginning of death metal, but
it was thrash metal first then death metal,

105
00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.200
you know type of thing. So
that made them unique even to death

106
00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:48.000
metal bands today. And I think
that's what makes a band like yours great

107
00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:54.840
is being able to capture the unique
sound of your band without having to be

108
00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:01.200
yeah, ho's to sound like this? Yeah. I mean I grew up

109
00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:07.000
in between the old school guys and
then like some of the new death metal

110
00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.919
that was like coming in, and
you know, I was even there for

111
00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.679
like some of like the newer well, I shouldn't say newer sub generals because

112
00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.720
they're there, but like you know, like metalcore and all that, you

113
00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.960
know, like when like black Talia
Murder or kind of like brand new on

114
00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.679
the scene and stuff like that.
So but like you know, I've been

115
00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.080
inspired by all kinds of stuff,
but Uh. In general, when I

116
00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.320
when I write an album, I
kind of try and look at it as

117
00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.600
like okay, so if I'm gonna
go see this band and like, okay,

118
00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.480
I have to compete, you know
with like twenty other bands and try

119
00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.200
and sound different somehow. Like,
so I look at it from an audience

120
00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.240
to try to be like, okay, if I went up on stage,

121
00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.159
like what would I want to see
from a band? You know, if

122
00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.360
I went up there. That's kind
of like how I write my music,

123
00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.440
Like I want to I want a
death metal band that you know, They're

124
00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:54.559
gonna go up there and I'm gonna
be like, you know, spinning my

125
00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.080
air the whole time that they're playing, you know, And that's kind of

126
00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.240
how I try my right my wrists
or more like pit riffs. I guess

127
00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.679
that's what I call. I love
it. Yeah, That's what I'm all

128
00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.919
about right there. I used to
uh live in LA and take a greyhound

129
00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:16.159
or hitchhike up to the Bay Area
to catch like the beginning shows of Possessed

130
00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:22.679
and many other bands. But talk
about brutality, Yeah, man, I

131
00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:28.919
mean I love all that old school
uh stuff too, you know, like

132
00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.080
in a Nile necrophages. Those are
like, you know, some of my

133
00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.639
like my like huge like you know, death metal bands and you know,

134
00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.559
like Decapitated if we're going like you
know, like old school death metal and

135
00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:45.200
shit like that, you know,
like the Polish, Polish, Swedish death

136
00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:46.759
metal, any of that stuff.
Like I love all that, like Carnage,

137
00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.759
you know, like I think that
was like one of my firste Carnage

138
00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.039
was like one of my first couple
of death metal albums, like uh,

139
00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.960
Jungle Rot stuff like that. You
know. Nice. I love all the

140
00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:07.399
old school shit too. So what
what was that moment in life? If

141
00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:13.519
there was one that you just knew
music was just in you and this was

142
00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.720
what you were gonna do. You
know, man, that was a long

143
00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.639
time ago, but it happened to
me at like a later age because I

144
00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.679
was an artist before I really was
into music or anything like that's all.

145
00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.799
It was like, you know,
I was like a freshman or sophomore in

146
00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.679
high school and I didn't really listen
to music, you know. It was

147
00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.720
just like whatever someone had on the
radio, That's what I was listening to.

148
00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:43.440
But uh, my sister was watching
something on like MTV. It was

149
00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.720
like it was a rock band or
something like that, and I was just

150
00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.759
like, oh what, you know, what what is this? And I

151
00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:54.879
was like, okay, you know
that's kind of cool. And it wasn't

152
00:12:54.919 --> 00:13:00.159
like anything like super heavy or it
was like some alternative band, and uh,

153
00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.000
basically I was just like, you
know, this is cool, but

154
00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.879
like what else is there? Like
is there something like that goes a little

155
00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.440
harder this? And then I found
uh I think also on MT it was

156
00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.240
like Romstein Volkerball. They played like
some live clip from that. I was

157
00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.080
like, yo, that was cool, like you know, I want to

158
00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.399
I want to do what they're doing. And then it just my my taste

159
00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.960
got progressively heavier. I think after
I found that, I found like Behemoth,

160
00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.679
So it was once I actually found
the music, I like, you

161
00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.240
know that I wanted to listen to. It pretty much just went from like,

162
00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.600
you know, not heavy to like
heavy right right away. You know.

163
00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.480
I think like Behemoth Demigod was maybe
like my third or fourth like album

164
00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.720
I ever listened to, and that
that was honestly the album that made me

165
00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:50.000
go like holy shit, like that's
fucking awesome, you know nice, and

166
00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:58.600
you know, it's funny because the
the artistry and the music does go hand

167
00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:05.519
in hand. So my question is, as we look at the album cover

168
00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:13.080
behind me, there is that your
artistry. So this is done by our

169
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:20.960
now previous drummer Burns. He came
up with the concept of the album art

170
00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:28.799
and he did the uh he didn't
draw the logo. We had this artist

171
00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:35.360
called Art of Darkness do the logo
and once once we got that back from

172
00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.279
him, he did kind of like
the filling in of the letters, and

173
00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.240
he tried a couple different like stone
looks and stuff like that. But I

174
00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.679
think he ultimately settled on this like
mono tone like silver and like you know,

175
00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.960
with red around it. It's pretty
cool. I think, yeah,

176
00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.080
it's totally cool. And I'm all
about that too. I think that's why

177
00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.399
I say it goes hand in hand. Like I like good album art,

178
00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.360
you know, good merch with great
art on it. I think it just

179
00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:11.039
all goes hand in hand because music
is art and it's like a full on

180
00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.639
for me, it's a full on
experience. Like I listen to your album,

181
00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.240
I want to sit there on the
balcony with with the album right in

182
00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.480
my hand, you know, looking
at the album or reading all the stuff

183
00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.960
while I'm listening to it. Oh
yeah, absolutely, that's yeah, I'm

184
00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:31.200
still I'm still about buying albums.
I know, a lot of the current

185
00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.240
generation and everything day there's a lot
of digital downloading and you know, not

186
00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.440
even that even like you know,
Spotify is streaming and all that, but

187
00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:43.240
you know it's cool. I mean, I stream on YouTube. I don't

188
00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:50.600
really use Spotify too much. But
well, you know what's interesting is like

189
00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:58.240
you said, you found music okay, and I did too. Nowadays,

190
00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.440
nowadays it's almost like you don't really
have to find it because of these things.

191
00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:10.399
And I personally liked it better when
I did have to find it because

192
00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.360
that's how you found some of the
coolest stuff. I think nowadays there's just

193
00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:19.039
so much flooding, Like if you're
listening to Spotify, there's so much playing

194
00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:26.200
into you that you don't really take
the time. Whereas back then it was

195
00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.840
like, oh, there's one album, let me go get that, you

196
00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:36.080
know, and then listen to it
fifty million times. Yeah, yeah,

197
00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.159
I mean that, you know,
you haven't think like back then it was

198
00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:42.159
a very like niche market. You
know, there was a lot of like

199
00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.360
you know, definitely black metal bands
or anything like that. Yet you know,

200
00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.039
like there was still a new genre
and like, like, you're right,

201
00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.360
there aren't a lot of There are
a lot of bands now like that

202
00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.879
are out there trying to you know, make it be heard and stuff like

203
00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.240
that, and you really do have
to kind of stand out one way or

204
00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.039
another is otherwise you know, yeah, people do forget about you easier.

205
00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:08.279
I found for the way I find
new bands a lot is when we're playing

206
00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:12.839
our live shows. You know,
like I purposely won't listen to the local

207
00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.640
band or whoever. You know,
if we go play a tour or something,

208
00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:19.920
you know, I'll go like all
the band pages and you know,

209
00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.839
you know, support, but I'll
wait until I go to the show and

210
00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.519
listen to them. And I find
a lot of new bands that way,

211
00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:27.319
because like, you know, I'll
go there and be like, oh,

212
00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.599
you know, these guys are super
super sick live. You know, I've

213
00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.160
never even heard of them before.
And then you know, then I'll go

214
00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.920
grab their music and stuff like that
at the shows. But but yeah,

215
00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.920
that's how I've been finding new bands, and that that's kind of replaced the

216
00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.039
conventional way for me. And you
know that was finding a random CD back

217
00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.119
in the day. Yeah, Well, that's what's cool about festivals because I

218
00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.839
have it too, where that happens
for me. You know, I go

219
00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.799
and I go on tour and I
do radio coverage at all these festivals here

220
00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:03.599
in the UK and Europe, and
like, I like to make it a

221
00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.400
point that if I'm interviewing a band
that I go to their set. I

222
00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.200
can. You know, sometimes you're
stuck back there working, but if I

223
00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:17.519
can. But I find so many
bands by being at these festivals that I

224
00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.680
never would have found before that.
And it was saying back in the day,

225
00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:26.359
like I used to get this sing
in La it was BAM magazine and

226
00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.960
they had all the gigs and you'd
look at to see who looked the coolest,

227
00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.000
and then you went to the show
and you didn't know what they sounded

228
00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:38.119
like. I mean like Merciful Fate, perfect example. You know, they

229
00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:42.680
looked Diamond looked cool as shit.
So I'm like, I want to go

230
00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:48.440
to that show, and then you
know it's I'll tell you a funny story

231
00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.599
too. I was at a show
and Venom, Venom Slayer and Exodus played

232
00:18:55.839 --> 00:19:02.960
and Cronos and Tom got into a
fistfight backs stage. Are you ready for

233
00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.720
this? Why? Because Kronos was
pissed off because people were some people were

234
00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:12.480
calling Slayer black metal and they're like, He's like, you're not black metal,

235
00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:18.039
we're black metal. And the funny
part is in twenty twenty four,

236
00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:25.599
neither one of them would probably be
considered black metal. Yeah, so it

237
00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.039
is great how it's all evolved and
become what it is. You know,

238
00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.799
it's funny. I was one of
those people while I was younger that I

239
00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.920
didn't want it to evolve. I
wanted it to stay like really underground and

240
00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.559
nobody know about it. But now
that I go to a festival like a

241
00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:47.480
Milwaukee Metal Fest or any other festival
and see how many metal heads there are

242
00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:52.519
and how many great metal musicians there
are, I'm happy us gatekeepers didn't keep

243
00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:59.079
it gated. Yeah. Yeah,
for sure. So tell everybody how they

244
00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.440
can connect to you guys on your
socials, on the web, go your

245
00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.920
merch store, check out any tour
dates, get the new album, all

246
00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.119
that good stuff. Yeah. So
we have a link tree on our Instagram

247
00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:17.079
and our Facebook and all that.
So that's in all of our about sections

248
00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.640
and stuff like that. That's got
our you know, Facebook, Instagram.

249
00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:26.480
All our links are our band camp
store all of our merchant. I'm still

250
00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.079
getting the store up. We have
a couple of things up on it,

251
00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:32.640
but I have to add a couple
of things, like we got some we're

252
00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:37.839
getting some shorts made, and we
got a couple of new shirt designs cool.

253
00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.240
So we're getting some of the old
stuff up on there too that we're

254
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.359
just trying to clear stock up.
But that's all through our band camp store.

255
00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:52.000
You could pre order the album through
the band camp store then you Our

256
00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:56.680
our main social network right now is
Facebook, but we do update Instagram and

257
00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:03.400
still have stuff going on on Aaron
of course band Camp, So those are

258
00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:08.000
our means. Very cool. Is
there anything else that we haven't covered that

259
00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:15.400
you'd like the listeners to know about. No, just thank you. Thank

260
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:22.920
you for all tuning in and listening, and it was definitely awesome to get

261
00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.039
an interview from you. So thank
you very much and I appreciate it very

262
00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.960
much, and I appreciate you giving
us great music. And I hope to

263
00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.640
see you live because I'm with you
man lot live is where it's at.

264
00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:41.160
And thanks a lot be for being
on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Absolutely

265
00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.559
man, thank you for having me. Thank you for listening to the adventures

266
00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:51.440
of Pipemin. I'm w for Cui
Radio