March 29, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Bullets and Octane

BULLETS AND OCTANE UNLEASHES EXPLOSIVE NEW SINGLE AND MUSIC VIDEO, "SPACE LORD SYMPHONY"!  

Bullets and Octane is a hard-hitting rock band hailing from SoCal who have released some of the best music many have never heard.  

"'Space Lord Symphony' is...

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BULLETS AND OCTANE UNLEASHES EXPLOSIVE NEW SINGLE AND MUSIC VIDEO, "SPACE LORD SYMPHONY"!

Bullets and Octane is a hard-hitting rock band hailing from SoCal who have released some of the best music many have never heard.

"'Space Lord Symphony' is the first single from the new Bullets And Octane album (TBD) due out in 2024. The band, firmly lead by the sober singer and main songwriter GENE LOUIS, is still as raucous, energetic and melodic as ever. The new music will punch you in the face and kick you in the nuts at the same time. Just good time hard rock n roll delivered with a punk snarl.

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Hi, you have unto censure for
Wow, cra you young, Wake up

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of America. It's time for the
Adventures of Pipe Man on W four c

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Y dot com. West pomp Beach
is number one Internet radio station. Here's

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your host, the vipe Man.
This is the pipe Man here on the

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Adventures pipe Man W four c Y
Radio. And I'm here with our next

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guest man. They have some killer
music and I totally dig their newest video

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that you're going to have to check
out. It's this one right behind me,

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but that's just the album cover.
The video's bad ass. So let's

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welcome to the show. Gene from
Bullets and Octane, How are you?

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Hey, Hey, Here we are
Man, Here we are. And you

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know, we were just having a
conversation before going on the interview about my

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days in LA and your days arriving
to LA. And you know, there's

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a lot of stories I wish I
could share with you from the eighties Sunset

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strip, but I don't remember any
of them that you don't want to You

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don't want to go to jail either, right, So I pretty much showed

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up like right when you were nursing
your decade of hangover, right, totally

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Billy. Have you ever seen the
meme? Okay, there's this meme of

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the eighties rock star and the rock
star today. Have you ever seen that

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meme? Hold on, gosh lost, ye We're back, Okay, okay,

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no, I have not seen that, so okay. So it's it's

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so funny because it shows the eighties
rock star and the eighties rock star is

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lying on the ground guitar in hand, passed out and Jack Daniels in the

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other hand, the ball of Jack
Daniels in the other hand, and today's

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rock star is sitting at a table
with the guitar on his lap and typing

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into a computer. Yeah that sounds
about right, yeah, right, yeah,

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yeah, I mean it's funny you
talked about, you know, we

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were talking a little bit about,
you know, the Motley Cruzeys and stuff

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like that. I remember, right
before Bullets kind of had a little bit

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of a break, somewhat in the
middle two thousands, I was working at

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a Domino's pizza, you know,
being a driver in the daytime, and

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all the things just kind of started
happening, and I remember, I don't

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know how they found me, but
people started calling the restaurant. So I

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remember it was just be me and
some kid manager, of course, and

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that's that's the way it always a
seventeen year old manager running, you know,

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the musician guy in his twenties or
something, and he'd be like,

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hey, man, phone and it
would be record labels and different things.

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And one time, I remember,
I'm wearing the outfit, I'm folding boxes,

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the apron and everything. Dude,
it was just so humbling. Let's

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just use that word. And I
remember, like, you got a phone

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call, man, I'm like,
okay, who is it? Nicky six

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is on the phone, and I'm
like, what is going? How well,

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how did that even come to be? So I'm like huh, And

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you know, he was like,
hey man, I heard your song Pirates.

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It's really great. I'd like to
maybe possibly use it for brides of

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Destruction or something. It was something
along those lines. And it just all

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these things started happening, and it
was it was happening really really fast and

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really really strange. And I remember, anyway, long story, I went

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to West Hollywood and was going up
an escalator standing next to him to have

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a meeting, and he looked at
me with all my tattoos and he's like,

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man, what are you gonna do
if this doesn't work? And I

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remember, I mean literally the way
I put that is like this, man,

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It's like it's like a kid tucking
in his baby blanket into his shirt

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standing on the edge of a building
next to Superman and Superman's like you ready

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to jump? And then he looks
at you and goes, what if the

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cape doesn't open? You know,
are you what are you gonna do?

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And so to me, it's like, what are you talking about? Like

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this is partially your fault, the
reason why I'm all tattooed and I moved

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out here. We're gonna ride.
Aren't we gonna ride Harley's and go to

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the strip club together? Aren't we
going to girls? Girls? Girls?

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The shit out of this? Come
on, man, And so just really

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eye opening moments along the way of
like, fuck, this is kind of

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this is kind of real. And
when you're when you're heroes if you will,

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or whatever you want to call it, are kind of telling you,

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like, you know, this might
not happen. I'm thinking like, man,

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I don't know, Like I've watched
so many headbanger's ball things that it

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has to happen, right, I
mean, this is what happens because you

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never hear the story of the people
who don't make it. Why would you,

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you know? So, nah,
you wouldn't. And there are a

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lot of bands from my time at
the Sunset Strip that I love that who

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knows. There's one band in particular
it's so funny that I was really close

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friends with. I'd road eat their
stuff and all that, and I even

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knocked my teeth out at their show
and they were gone for like ever.

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And then I get this email like
several months ago about this band releasing their

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first album in like thirty some odd
years and can you interview them? And

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it was that band, and I
was like wow, and then he got

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on with me. I'm like,
I don't know if you'll remember me,

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because you know, it's kind of
hard from those days to remember people,

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you know. But I'm the one
that knocked my teeth out at your show.

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And he's like, oh my god, I always wondered what happened to

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you, and like I felt so
bad, and like you're You're like it

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was great too, because you tell
your kids stuff and they don't believe you,

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like, and so I've told my
kids a bunch of stories from back

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then. And it's like they're probably
thinking their head, Yeah right, dad,

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And I told them I'm like an
legend in La Medal because I ended

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this band's show by knocking my teeth
off diving off a Marshall stack. And

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he says literally in the interview without
it being prompt and he's like, yeah,

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man, you're like the most tragic
thing that ever happened to La Medal

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ever. And I was like,
thanks. Now, I complain this for

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my kids and they know I'm not
full of shit, not on everything anyway,

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right exactly. Imagine being proud of
the fact that you're a legend for

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knocking your teeth out, for being
an idiot, Yeah, dude, I

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mean I can't even imagine what you
experienced, man, because you know,

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I have my own little weird memories
of you know, like we'd go up

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there when we first moved here and
there was that Steel Panther obviously, but

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they were called Metal Shop and they
were playing at the Viper Room every Monday

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night, and that was you know, like I said, we arrived a

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little late to the party, as
I said earlier to you, and I

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just remember like all these things like
Chad Smith from It Hot chili peppers would

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like get up there. You know, probably had some drinks and he threw

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the snare drum and they were freaking
out at the end of the ship when

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the curtains closed the viper room,
you know, they always had the curtains

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closing. And I hear the band
like, why'd you let him throw the

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snare? I didn't let him,
man, he just threw the you know,

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it was always something. And just
sitting on that little wall ledge outside

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the liquor store next door, right
and I'm just, you know, scared

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and young, and you know,
everything's just fucking insane, and all of

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a sudden, there's this gas guy
and glasses at night. It's midnight,

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it's black as shit out. It's
got glasses on his hair and we're just

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talking. And you know, I've
never been good at a poker face in

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rock and roll. I've always just
been a nerdy kind of like, yeah,

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what's up, you know, hey, let's talk about our feelings and

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yeah. And I remember this dude
and he was I'm like, you playing

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a band too, and he's like, yeah, my name is Tamey Man.

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I got this band, you know, Faster Pussycat or something. And

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I'm just like, what are you
talking about? How's this? What do

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you why are you sitting right here? So out there. It's just like

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random stuff. You just like walk
around and all of a sudden, there's

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Slim Jim Phantom, he's got the
cat club at the time across the way,

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you know, and it's like,
holy shit, it's a fucking straight

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cat. There's a stray cat,
a little stray crat right here. Like

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so it's just so mind blowing the
different things that can happen that are just

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everyday stuff that we only dreamed about
back in Missouri. Like it was just

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stuff of legends. We didn't have. You couldn't watch it on your computer.

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So it's like every Saturday, I'd
be at my neighbor's house who had

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cable, and we would sit there
and watch Headbanger's Ball and Saturday Night Live

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and just just lose ourselves into the
TV and just you wouldn't even blink because

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you could you can't rewind it.
So you really had to soak it in,

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man, And you know, so
to hear that, you got to

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actually be around most of the stuff
that we only got to wonder about.

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You know, it's really so cool. Oh yeah, there's I have so

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many stories of stuff like, okay, check this out. I was at

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a Slayer show and Striper open for
Slayer, if you can imagine, okay,

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and so I'm right up at the
stage and I'm a total Slayer van

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okay, and hated Straper, you
know, because it got you know.

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That was the shitty part about La
back then is you had so many gatekeepers

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and like you could, like when
I started listening to Slayer Metallic and stuff,

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my friends were like, we need
to burn your Motley Cruise. Shit,

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you can't be having that right,
you know. And it was just

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stupid, but it is what it
is. So yeah, it was funny.

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I was at the stage and the
guitarist for Striper he bends over and

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his cross is hanging down in my
face, and so I grabbed it and

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I flipped it upside down. King
would be so proud. RIGHTHI though,

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right, Oh my god, it
was funny. Yeah, I was.

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Here's a good story. You're ready
for this this You're gonna shit on this

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one. I've said this one a
lot of times because it's just such a

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great story. I was seeing this
band, they were playing their first gig

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ever, like first like real gig
ever, and they were really freaking good

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and there were like twenty five of
us to see them. And the guitarists

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of the band comes down after the
gig, because this is what happened in

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La. After the band played,
they'd come interact with you. You'd walk

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with them up to the rainbow,
like I go to a rainbow now,

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I'm like, how the hell did
I get in there at fifteen years old?

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Oh, that's right. And I
was walking in with Motley Crue,

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you know. And so they basically
this guy said, gives me his business

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cars, a business car, and
it said on it. Are you ready

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for this? Metallica power metal?
Dave Mustaine, No fucking way, dude.

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Yeah, there wasn't even a thrash
metal yet. So Metallica was power

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metal for like a minute. And
Dave is sitting here talking to me and

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handing me his business card. I
wish I had today. Everybody was gonna

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have it. I'm like, no, I didn't think it meant to.

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I was fucking fifteen years old or
probably somewhere around there, like I thought,

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what the fuck is this bullshit?
I probably threw it in the car

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yeah, you know, it's like, damn, I would want to have

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that. Oh man, that would
be amazing to have that today. Yeah,

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are you there? We got audio
here? Hello? Hello, hear

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me? Now we're back all right. My engineer will added that out.

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I don't know what happened there.
Yeah, yeah, it blew my mind

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because it's like, okay, a
cup of stage. I don't think anybody

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hands me a business card. I'm
like, what that was, I'm here

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for a show. And then,
like I think nowadays, i'd like to

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interview Dave and have that business card
and like just pull it out and hand

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it to them and say do you
remember giving me this? But I can't

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do that, you know, but
that would be a cool last thing,

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you know. Yeah. I mean
if you remember the details of it,

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maybe you can make a mock of
a mock one up, just just for

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sentimental reasons, to you know,
be like this is something like this.

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You know, Oh, he'll remember
for sure, because you know, it's

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funny what these dudes do. Remember, Like I was good friends with Armored

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Saint, like really good friends with
them. I was their first merch company,

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actually, me and my bro.
They didn't have shirts or pins,

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were like, can we make shirts
and pins and sell them at your show?

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We'll give you fifty percent. They're
like sure. We were like fifteen

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years old. So Joey the Basis
and I were talking like a couple of

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guitar wearing an armored Saints shirt.
I'm like, yeah, he goes,

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that's your shirt and he still has
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still has it. I'm like,
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He goes, neither do I.
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot

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of that. I've never been good
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years I moved so much and had
such a crazy life that I name,

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you know. It was just like
fuck it, I don't care, you

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know. And they're like, why
don't you should have that stuff to hang

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up their trophies And I'm like,
I remember all the shit. Man,

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it's all good. But I realized
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purposes or later on down the line. It's like, there's no proof of

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it other than my mouth, you
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talking about that before the show.
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we didn't have the Internet. There
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that were going on, thank god
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but you know that's kind of the
sacrifice, isn't it. So you

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got away with things and stuff like
that, but at the same time you

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have zero to show for it.
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you too, It's interesting how that
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problems with it to this day,
with writing songs and music and picking albums

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and stuff. Is that whole policing
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because even like back in when I
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Slayer covers at a church called Saint
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dad's two jazz drum kits and smashed
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set, you know what I mean. So it would it would it would

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be like Dave Lambardo and all that
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how much it goes. I mean, I'm from a small little town out

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of Saint Louis basically, and all
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the walls at the church when we
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even they were like someone played a
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fuck Metallica, Megadeth, and it's
like, man, it traveled so far,

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even into a small town of like
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you could like a bunch of the
right bands, but if you happen to

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like one of the wrong bands,
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You know, it had to be
Exodus and Anthrax and Slayer and like that

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whole thing. But if you like
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was two hair metal, Metallica cut
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fucking out. You know, like
all of these ridiculous rules that we had

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to follow, and I still kind
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battle within man of like, you
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a heavy band in the UK and
Sweden, and I tend to, as

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I get older, write a little
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why you see all these cats that
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of a sudden they had they're havingn
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and they're doing that whole alt rock
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like your testos throne changes. Possibly
maybe it's a little bit more into

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the psychosis of it, but you
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I don't really feel like writing about
skulls and you know, like stupid shit

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like I just it's maybe it's just
a young tribal energy of just you know,

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being angry. But I have more
important shit to say, and sometimes

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playing heavy metal doesn't really fulfill my
personal thing. But then I realize there's

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people on the other side of the
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about like Rob Zombie, right,
that guy knows who he is. He

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does yoga, he eats his tofu. He's very focused from what I hear

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in that kind of way. So
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his patio with his tea in the
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yeah, I'm a super beast.
Yeah. He just knows to he

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knows who, Like, that's his
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and shit, So he could put
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take it or leave it. The
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he's somebody else, And I think
that's a weird journey along the way,

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especially when you're at a level that
I'm at where I'm not a big

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band, I'm not a big artists, so I'm still at the proving I

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have to always prove myself. I
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what, I fucking do shit into
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And so it's like I'm constantly still
doing that. I remember touring with

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bands like Cky and a lot of
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stuff like that, where those fans
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a full crowd and it's just me
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guys or whatever, and it would
be every day, I have to fight

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you. I have to fucking fight
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louder. I couldn't have a break
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word in to get the crowd riled
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older, it's like I'm sick of
fighting for shit. Like that. It's

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like it should be a thing where
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different types of things at the age
that I'm at and have everybody kind

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of dig it. It keeps you
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there's just some times where you see
folded arms and you're like, all right,

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let me fucking win you over.
God damn, how long have I

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been doing this? You know?
Right? Right? Well? I love

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of all that you're saying there.
I think the listeners need to hear that

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because it's so true in so many
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you have as a teenager, it's
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later stages and listen as a musician, like you want to evolve and get

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better at your craft. The reason
you start punk rock band is because you

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don't know how you're how to fucking
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once you learn, it's like even
Hetfield has said that he hates that.

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He said it's funny. He says
they play Seeking Destroy at the San Jose

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Sharks games, and he hates that
they played the old version because he said,

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I didn't even know how to sing, like he wants end to play

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the version where he actually knows how
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don't see the artist point of view. And then funny, I was interviewing

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Joe from the Vandals, and he
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so he knows I wouldn't asked this
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the interview because everybody asks, he
goes, and don't, hey, pipe

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man, don't ask me when the
Vandals are coming out with new songs,

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because nobody wants to hear fifty year
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you know, I get that,
man. There's a lot of bands that

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I see where I mean, Metallica
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It's like I've seen these things and
it's cool that they kind of get

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ahead of it, get in front
of it where they'll go, you guys

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want to hear something new, Hey, you want to hear something old,

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you know, And it's like do
we you know why why even at this

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point, I mean, unless it's
just completely merely and purely for yourself,

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you are making the next album at
this point. If you're any of those

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bands like fuck it man, go
out play Master of Puppets, give them

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the fucking ride the Lightning, give
them all that shit, Maybe not do

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the weird snare drum album right and
just get on with the show and say

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fuck it. You know, I
don't know, Oh yeah, no doubt,

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no doubt. Like me, I
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so I'm gonna kill them all fan. And it's like when Black came out,

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I was like, fuck those posers. I'm never see them again,

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and I still love them to this
day. Like that, that was that

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young idiot saying, yeah, you
know, I completely get it. Man.

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I was in a weird spot,
bro. I was in like a

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very weird thing. My parents are
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So my dad was a big band
jazz guy. He taught Dave Weckel

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how to play drums, you know. From the early age. I was

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named Jane from gene Krupa Lewis from
Louie Belson, these you know, big

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band drummers, so I had that
element. Then the people next door listened

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to classic rock, and then my
friends listened to punk rock, and my

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brother was into butt rock. So
I had all these different elements and that's

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why when people ask me like the
most basic shit in interviews, about like

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what's your favorite album, what's your
favorite this, And I'm like, I

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don't really have that. I have. I do like top I do like

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top forty music, and I do
like catchy fucking songs, and I like

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it across the board, man,
I listened to everything, like I can't

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imagine what bullets would sound like if
I wasn't influenced by the early Brian Setzer

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orchestra stuff. Not not so much
as job whale shit, but it's like

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those elements come in. And when
I worked with Page Hamilton from Helmet that

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he produced one of our albums,
we like hit it off instantly because I

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was looking at him like I remember
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to be great. I love that
shit. And he I didn't know he

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was a jazzer, you know,
so all of a sudden he heard my

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simple little rock songs that were pretty
shitty, but he heard these weird jazz

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changes that I didn't fucking know that
they were there, but he did,

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and he helped kind of pull that
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shit that I don't even realize.
I'll be in the dentist office, man,

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and whatever that music is they pipe
in at the in elevators and dentist

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office, that weird soft rock Chicago
and Steely Dan and like that weird thing

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whatever that is. That's the shit
that I subconsciously stole a lot from for

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Bullets. I'd be in there getting
drilled on, and all of a sudden,

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I'd hear like, you know,
okay, freaking we're not in love

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anymore, you know, And I'm
like hearing a bridge and I go,

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oh my god. On my heavy
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section for a lead guitar section,
right, So I love that about music.

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And you mentioned and earlier, like
we were talking about Slayer. I

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always use them as an example,
man, because with one thing that pisses

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me off about, like the art
thing. I get it, it's music

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business, second word business. I
get that argument. But I imagine music

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being like this art palette. You
have all these paints on your thing,

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but you're stuck in metal. Let's
say metal carry king metals red and yellow,

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and your whole life red and yellow, red and yellow, and one

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day you look down and you go, man, a hint of turquoise would

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really set this fucking painting off.
And I just kind of find it,

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like, why the fuck don't we
do that. I remember one of my

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guitar tech tech friends worked for Slayer
and Guns N' Roses, and I had

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to ask him. I'm like,
dude, so at soundcheck, does Slayer

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ever play fucking Sweet Home Alabama anything
other than metal? And He's like,

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now, dude, they just do
the metal thing. And I'm like,

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ah, fuck, I'd lose my
fucking shit if I was touring for decades

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and just having to go shit every
day and not just once in a while.

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Go hey, you guys want to
fucking rock a Sweet Caroline just for

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the shit of it, Let's just
do it? Come on, you know

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nice? See I love that.
That's why people need the listener shit,

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because I mean, that's it right
there. I think music should be unique

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and it should be like that's the
thing problem with metal nowadays, it's like

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they use this algebraic equation, this
is how metal has to sound. But

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I think the key to great music
is something that stands out, that's unique

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and that you can show different sides
of you. And it would be boring

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Ollie from bringing me to Rise and
they've been giving them so much shade lately

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for the different music, and he's
like, hey, I don't want to

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write the same song over and over
again, you know. And that's it

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right there. So tell everybody how
they can check out your new video space

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Lord Symphony. That's a badass,
and how they can connect to you guys

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on socials on the web all that
great shit. Thanks man. Yeah,

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we're Bullets and Octane. If you
go to our bulletsin Octane official YouTube,

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you could check it out. This
year alone, we've put out like a

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crazy amount, like ten videos,
ten singles, just pumping out as much

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stuff as possible. Some is great, some is a little off, painted,

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pale, strange, but it's everything. It's everything that matters to us.

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So go to Bullets and Octane official
YouTube. Go to Bolts and Otane

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official Instagram. I'm always posting silly
shit my day to day weird walks and

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vamps between you know, jogging and
weird shit and then straight up just music

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stuff, and you know, I
try to keep things honest. Go check

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it out space Lord Symphony, Bullets
and Octane. We got a bunch of

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new cool things I wish I could
talk about right now that I can't wait

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to talk to you, hopefully about
in another month or so. It's gonna

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be It's gonna be a really cool
year. Man. I'm very excited about

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it. I love it. Let's
do it. And I know you have

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an album coming out this year to
be determined, so that'll be cool.

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And man, I just gotta check
you guys out because I like, as

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soon as I saw this video,
I was like, man, that's badass.

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I got to interview these people.
And so everybody needs to listen to

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you. And do you have any
final words you want to leave the listeners

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with. Uh, keep an open
heart, keep an open mind, always

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be a fan of everything music.
And thanks for sticking around with you know,

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true artists and true people who struggle
and put stuff out no matter what

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it takes. Just thank you for
being a fan of all things music,

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all things rock and roll. Everybody, Uh no better words have zaid.

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Thanks for your great music, and
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Man. You got it. Thank
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