Sept. 13, 2023
PipemanRadio Interviews Dead Poet Society at Rocklahoma 2023
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by special guest Dead Poet Society at Rocklahoma. The band shares the hilarious details of the challenges of sharing a name with a famous movie and various public schools. The band discusses...
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by special guest Dead Poet Society at Rocklahoma. The band shares the hilarious details of the challenges of sharing a name with a famous movie and various public schools. The band discusses the amalgamation of rock that comes together to form their unique sound. Pipeman and the band discuss the problem with formulaic music and how some artists today have trouble making music from the heart. Pipeman and the band share stories over the years of touring and the insane people they’ve met along the way. You can find the Dead Poet Society on social media under WeAreDPS.com and check out their latest album “-!-“ anywhere you stream music!
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Listen to & Watch a show dedicated to motivation, business, empowerment, inspiration, music, comedy, celebrities, shock jock radio, various topics, and entertainment. The Adventures of Pipeman is hosted by Dean K. Piper, CST aka “The Pipeman” who has been said to be hybrid of Tony Robbins, Batman, and Howard Stern. The Adventures of Pipeman has received many awards, media features, and has been ranked for multiple categories as one of the Top 6 Live Radio Shows & Podcasts in the world.
Pipeman Radio also consists of multiple podcasts showing the many sides of Pipeman. These include The Adventures of Pipeman, Pipeman in the Pit, and Positively Pipeman and more. You can find all of the Pipeman Podcasts anywhere you listen to podcasts. With thousands of episodes that focus on Intertainment which combines information and entertainment there is something for everyone including over 5000 interviews with celebrities, music artists/bands, authors, speakers, coaches, entrepreneurs, and all kinds of professionals.
Then there is The Pipeman Radio Tour where Pipeman travels the country and world doing press coverage for Major Business Events, Conferences, Conventions, Music Festivals, Concerts, Award Shows, and Red Carpets. One of the top publicists in music has named Pipeman the “King of All Festivals.” So join the Pipeman as he The Pipeman Radio Tour to Life right before your ears and eyes.
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- The Adventures of Pipeman
- Pipeman Radio
- Pipeman in the Pit
- Positively Pipeman
Visit Pipeman Radio on the Web at theadventuresofpipeman.com, pipemanradio.com, w4cy.com, talk4tv.com, talk4podcasting.com
Phone/Text Contact – 561-506-4031
Email Contact – dean@talk4media.com
The Adventures of Pipeman is broadcast live daily at 8AM ET.
The Adventures of Pipeman TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).
The Adventures of Pipeman Radio Show is broadcast on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com) and K4HD Radio (www.k4hd.com) – Hollywood Talk Radio part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com).
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We're in Dead Poet Society. Nice. So, right off the bat,
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you probably hear this a lot.
How many times do people Google search
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you and get the wrong shit?
I think every single time. More unique
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thing that happens is there's like a
poetry following on Instagram, and we get
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tagged in this community where they just
it's just versus. We get tagged in
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so many verses with backdrops and hashtag
Dead Poets Society. Well, there you
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go. There's some lyric ideas right
there. Yeah. Our handle is we
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are DPS. Sometimes we get Denver
Public Schools or Detroit Public Schools. We
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get a nice little showcase of what
they're up to. Wow tag us.
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Well you know what what's funny about
tagging on Instagram? It's sometimes you pull
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up stuff and Instagram shows you shit
the tag, but the pictures so small
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that you can't really tell if that's
the right one. Yeah, and that
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probably happens to you too, Yeah, that happens. Yeah. Like I
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was tagging somebody this morning, I'm
like, that doesn't look like it's theirs,
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And I had to redo the whole
post so I could get That's what
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sucks. I had to get off
and get back on to make sure I
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knew which one it was and redo
the post all over again. I know,
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right, shouldn't be that difficult.
Come on, come on, Instagram,
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make it so I can make sure
I know it's the right one.
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Yeah. Just recently, they finally
started letting you like press on the profile
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picture and it actually brings up a
larger picture. That's the problem. I've
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been waiting for that for about ten
years now, because it's just like,
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who is that? Who's I think
that's the right person? And stop giving
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me suggestions for threads when I'm on
Instagram. Yeah, oh my gosh,
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dude, I get that little like
thing underneath the bio where it says what
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what how like what person you were
in line to sign up for threads?
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It's like I don't care, right, Like, why do we need another
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Twitter or x I X. Come
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story. That's just stupids. I
know why he did it though, where
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I think I know why he did
SpaceX and then he has an X series
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Tesla. He also had I think
he had a company called X that didn't
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quite work out. That he wanted
PayPal to be X, which was like
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the all encompassing banks social media blah
blah blah blah blah. So he's gonna
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destroy Twitter too, he's working on
it. So what wait, you can't
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call it a tweet anymore? What
you call it? Exit and sun.
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If seeing something sounds like I'm gonna
exit, it just doesn't. It sounds
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like, well I was gonna say
it sounds like you're blocking somebody. But
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now he's he's talking about removing the
block button. Yeah, that's just stupid
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as shit. I ever heard like
free speech, okay, free speech okay,
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doesn't mean I have to listen.
Nobody said it's called free hearing.
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Dude, I'm kind of excited for
the chaos. I'm not gonna lie,
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like you know, I don't Partisser, our guitarist hands all that handles all
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the Twitter stuff, and I never
go on there. So I'm just like,
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I don't know, you kind of
want to watch the Pitchforks fly,
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right. I think I didn't like
Twitter before, and now it's like and
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I didn't go on there. I
just have everything going mac Now it's like,
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I don't even want to go on
there. It's like ridiculous. And
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he posts more than anybody. Yeah, yeah, he's quite active on there.
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Oh my god. So it never
caught on for me. There you
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go, Well, at least they're
not when they're googling you, they're not
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confusing you with him. Yeah you
don't. So tell our listeners a little
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bit. You guys rock, but
some of our listeners might not know how
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good you are. How would you
describe your music? Not genre bullshit?
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I hate that shit because, like
why you have to be in one genre?
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But artists usually have a different opinion
of what their music is like,
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even when it comes to genres or
like we're not alternative, we're not Well
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who gave you that label? You
know, it's like somebody else did.
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I'd say it's easiest to say that
we're a rock band just because I there
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are so many different flavors of ice
cream, Like you can just oh,
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this is mint chocolate chip, but
all now we threw in a fucking granola
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bar. I don't know. But
at the end of the day, it's
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ice creams, you know. So
we all have influences, like I love
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R and B and fucking jazz and
hip hop and stuff, and but at
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the foundation of what I grew up
playing is rock and that's kind of what
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we all bring to the table.
We listen to a whole bunch of stuff.
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When it comes together, it's like
we're not trying to write a certain
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way. It's just what happens to
come out is from all of our past
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experiences, our loves this, and
then it just turns into a song.
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That's why I'm so stoked about this
album is because it doesn't follow one feeling.
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It just it kind of is all
over the Plus I love that you
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said that because I talk about this
shit all the time. Okay, first
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of all, there's so many ridiculous
genres, microgenres, subgenres. It's game
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like out of hand, so much
so that when I go and do all
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the festivals well I used to do, I haven't been doing it lately.
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I gotta started up again. Is
the band would make up their own genre
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because pretty much every genre only has
one band in it because it's so fine
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tune. We are metalcore, post
hardcore, new wave, jazz infused rock.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's insane.
I think we're entering the age of
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like the death of the genre,
at least on the perspective. Everybody listens
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to everything now, I mean,
why wouldn't you. I think that's you
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know, like a lot of people
hate on streaming, but I think that's
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kind of the beauty of it is
that you you can now find everything that
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you like. For instance, Okay, so I rent a room from a
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family and Huntington Beach and they just
had their ceilings painted the other day.
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And the guy who came in to
paint the ceilings, I was talking to
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him for a bit and he found
out I was a musician, was asking
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me about it. I asked him
what do you listen to? And he
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was like, I've been really into
classical time music. And he's just this
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dude from from Los Angeles, born
and raised, and he just he's like
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really connecting with time music that couldn't
happen before streaming just you don't have the
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access to it. And so I
love that perspective because there's good and bad.
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You know, there's times I've also
said Lars was right. You know,
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we all thought he was an asshole, but he was right. Musicians
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are getting dicked over. But then
on the other hand, there's musicians yet
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get more attention or get seen or
heard that normally wouldn't. And like you
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said, certain types of music you
get exposed to. Yeah, you know,
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and listen. I come from the
day of gatekeepers, and I always
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thought it was stupid. So I
love talking about this because nowadays, too,
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with this fine tuning of genres,
I find bands are all sounding the
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same. Like I remember in the
eighties people are saying, yo, yo,
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all those metal bands sound the same, but they fucking didn't, Like
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even the Big four Thrash don't sound
anything alike, you know. But nowadays,
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if you have somebody in a genre
and it's like I can't even tell
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them apart sometimes and some of the
real microgenres because it's like this formula that
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they plug in and it shouldn't be
a oh, like you don't know.
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I hate that shit. It's not
supposed to be a formula, you know,
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and being at I'm like a metal
head in a punk those never had
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a formula and now they do,
like and it's like, oh my god.
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multiple influences I do, you know,
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And there was transitions throughout my life, you know, I started here
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and then guy exposed to this and
that. So I think any musician is
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gonna be influenced by multiple genres.
Now you have a band, each one
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has multiple genres. That blending of
those influences, it's what gives you a
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unique sound to stand out above the
rest, whereas the other way you don't.
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Yeah, yeah, I think that's
something that we kind of thriving as
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a band is we are so adhd
about our music. We don't write the
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same song twice pretty well ever.
You know, it's like this the new
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stuff we have coming down the pipeline, Like some of it's heavy, some
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of it's like almost straight up pop, some of it's uh, you know,
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like all and it's just we prefer
albums that kind of garner your attention
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the entire time. And so the
way you do that is you make music
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that fits every vibe. And that's
what the stuff we have coming down the
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pipeline is yeah, just whatever's real, you know, people are gonna connect
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with it. And it's funny because
he's mentioned the gatekeepers. The gamekeepers don't
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even know what's going to blow up, Like who's that country kid? Who
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just Oliver Oliver Anthony. Yeah you
know that anyway, because he's everywhere and
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no one saw that coming. But
now everyone's just trying to get their hands
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on him. Right, And look
at jelly Roll, like charting in every
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genre, like he charts in metal, rock, hip hop and country and
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pop. Yeah, I mean that
says it all to me, Like that's
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the way it should be, like
that you can't get a charting in this
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genre because you're that genre. But
we know who did that and they're losing
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the power. And that is one
of the benefits of streaming is the record
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labels. Yeah, yeah, they're
the ones that did that. So now
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that you have artists that don't need
to rely on them anymore, they're more
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like you where you can just play
whatever you feel, and that's to me,
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that's authentic music. Yeah, it's
the most important I think. Yeah,
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it's just you write music that you
feel and as long as you're being
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true to your own emotions and that
you actually like it, there's going to
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be somebody out there that likes it
too and connects with exactly what you were
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feeling. And you know, I
gotta say unpopular opinion, but bring Me
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to Rise and it's a perfect pioneers
for what we're talking about. Yeah,
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you know, and a lot of
people are hating on them, But you
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know what I heard Ali air view
and was like, why do I want
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to write the same song every time? Yeah? Because you're not always in
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the same mood You're not always going
through the same experience you were on the
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last album. Life is evolving and
music is an evolution. Yeah, and
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so were you. Yeah, that's
I was just going to add it that
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and you're evolving as your skills as
a musician. How many of those gatekeepers
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and I've been guilty of it myself. They have these bands that they love
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when they're like the garage band,
and as soon as they start getting better
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at their craft, that so their
music changes because they're better at their craft,
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and the old school people are hating
on them for doing that. I
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look at Metallic as an example.
James said recently, like at the San
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Jose Shark Games, they play Seek
and Destroy, but they played the original
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version from off of Kill Them All, and he's like, I fucking hate
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that they played that version. I
sucked. My voice was terrible. I
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didn't even know as sing now me, who's old school Metallica fan? I
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love that old raw James voice?
Ye, but I could see as an
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artist why you wouldn't want to stay
a beginner. And that's the point,
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like, why would you want to
stay a beginner? You want to get
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better at your craft? Yeah,
yeah you do. And you know,
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we have a few songs that we
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list because we're just so overlaying it. We were completely different people at that
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point, you know. So it
was funny after Shock one year, Blink
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one eight two was headlining before the
reunion, a lot of people were leaving
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because they were all like, yeah, I dug this when I was fifteen,
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but it doesn't apply to me anymore. The listeners, and that that
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says it all right there, of
what you're saying, it's not only for
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the artist, but for the listener. Maybe you can't relate to what they're
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singing about anymore. If you're still
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some of the things you take from, like, there's a lot of
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eighties fans here, some of the
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get anywhere today with some of the
things they were singing about. You know,
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Reagan. Yeah I love it,
oh man, But yeah, listen
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today in twenty twenty three, with
every day that's going on, if you
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sing a song about Reagan, it
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you know, right, it's like, oh my god. Back then,
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it's like who could get a worse
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his kids said he'd be a Democrat
today. Oh my god. It's got
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an extreme out there. So I
like your tat there because it looks like
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you're like somebody's gonna fall into your
black hole. Yeah, that's exactly what
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it is. It's a black hole
on a graph. I love it.
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Yeah, man, I love it
too. It's my favorite text. You
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like that. I figured out that's
why it was. Yeah cool, So
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tell us about the new album more
so people can check it out and order
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it and and all that stuff.
Yeah, So we have Running in Circles
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coming out September seventh. It's the
first single off of the Thing that's coming
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next, the Inevitable Thing, and
uh, I'm excited for it. This
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new, this new everything that's coming
is uh, it's our favorite stuff that
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we've ever written, and we're really
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hearing that because like, if it's
not your favorite, how's it gonna be
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anybody else's? Precisely you know,
And that I think goes along with what
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I was saying about growing as a
musician. You know, you probably look
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back on your original music and like
the fuck was I thinking? Yeah all
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the time? Dude, right right? And then how many people want you
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want to hold onto that? You
know? It's like, oh, how
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come you're not doing this anymore?
How can you? How can you take
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that song out of Settlers? Like
can't believe it? But like you said,
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I know if I was a musician
like some of these bands around for
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forty years, having played the ship
for forty years? Are you kidding me?
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Near my studio? I'm friends with
him Vanilla Ice? Okay, sick
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dude, coolest motherfucker, I gotta
tell you the story too. Then if
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you think that's sick, because at
first, somebody came up to me many
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years ago and they're like hey,
and I'm an eighties metal head, so
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they're like, hey, you should
interview Vanilla Ice because he lives in the
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area. I'm like, why,
that was exactly what I said. But
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he goes well because like, first
of all, you should go check out
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he's doing this event downtown West Palm. Check it out and you'll see why.
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And I showed up and there were
like fifty thousand people there. I'm
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like, holy fuck sick. And
then I found out he had to number
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one single in London at the time. And then he has his d I
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Y show. But then we do
this event in my town where my studio
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I was. I was broadcasting live. So I'm and he because he lives
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in town, he's so cool.
He performs at this event every year for
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free. That's awesome because his manager
wanted to charge the town ten grand and
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he's not. He told his manager
nope, like this is my community.
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I'm not going to charge my community. So that alone, I think he's
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cool as shit. But then that's
awesome. What happened was is so this
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first event, he's doing. The
deal I made is okay loo, I
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want to interview with him. Every
time he came over during the day to
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do the interview to sit down,
his manager dragged him away somewhere and listen.
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I do this a lot, so
I wasn't butt hurt by that because
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I'm used to it. It happens, that's the way it goes, Okay.
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At the end of the night,
the manager walks up to me and
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he goes, sorry, he can't
do the interview. He's got another event
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to go to. I watch him
run across the amphitheater field and sit down
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my chair. Shoo away his manager. He goes, I promised you an
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interview. I'm giving you an interview. That's awesome. He didn't have to
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do so that there makes them cool. But it gets better, okay.
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So then he invites me to broadcast
live at his event in downtown West Palm,
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the big event. I come down
there the first year and he helps
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me unload my vehicle of all the
radio. Shame I got slipnot blasting,
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and he starts headbanging and I like
rolled my eyes at him. I'm like
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really, He goes, no,
man, you don't get it, dude,
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this is my jam, Like I
helped them get signed. I'm so
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fucking sick of singing ice Ice Baby. I wrote it when I was sixteen
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years old, to the point of
what we're talking about. So that was
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cool. But then okay, the
second year he has me there and this
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high up director at Clear Channel walks
up to my booth before they were iHeart
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and they were like just dipping into
iHeart and they're like, you need to
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take your booth down. They were
playing you know, Big Bad Wolf,
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and I'm like, oh, well, why I played stupid at first?
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Oh, because we're Clear Channel and
we pay for this event and we don't
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want you here. I'm like,
well, clear Channel clear right always.
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And then Rob and then I say, well Rob, invite me here.
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We don't care, blah blah blah
blah, Like I'm not your competition.
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I'm just some little station, your
Clear Channel and there, and they're like,
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no, we're because I'm Internet radio
and they're like, no, we're
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iHeart. So like they were deeming
me as our competition, which I'm sitting
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thinking my head, I must be
pretty fucking good if they've they got I'm
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the competition. Okay, you know
this is like fifteen years ago. Okay,
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So then she was just not nice
at all, so I stopped playing
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nice. I'm like, listen,
if Rob tells me to leave, I'll
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leave. I'm not leaving because you
tell me to leave. And oh,
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she had smoke coming out of her
ears. Man, she was so pissed.
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She went up on the stage while
he's sound checking. Whatever she said
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to him. All I heard over
to Mike Webs, get the fuck off
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my stage and leave my fucking radio
station alone. Right. They were paying
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him, I wasn't paying him.
I would have walked if he said,
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Hey, dude, do me a
favor, no problem. Then he brings
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her upstairs his club in downtown West
Palm Beach into an office. Next thing
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you know, she comes down.
She's apologizing to me, and then he
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moves me to his meet and green
area. He says, here's where you're
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going to broadcast. Fuck them,
And then the next year he for that.
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I have respect for him for the
rest of my life because he put
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his values before money and he didn't
have to protect me at all. So
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then next year he comes up to
me at the air vent, Hey,
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you can't come broadcast again. I
kicked Clear Channel at n I don't put
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up with that corporate radio bullshit.
I don't like how they treated you.
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And I was like, holy fuck, he's the real deal. So like,
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the proof of that is you look
at people artists. You can assume
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whatever you want to assume, but
we're all people and at the end of
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the day, whatever people may have
thought of him, they're probably wrong because
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he's a badass dude that is totally
loyal and totally cool and true to the
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art, and that's the only way
you should be. The next part of
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a story, I get a phone
call from Clear Channel. Hey, we've
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been listening to your station for a
year. We're daring this new thing called
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iHeart Talk. It was the beginning
of podcasting. We want partner with you
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and get your content on there,
and we want you to bate to test
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it. So nice moral the story
is stand up to a big, bad
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wolf. They might end up your
partner right on, dude, So I
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say it at because I love what
you're doing being true to the art.
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You know, listening to you guys, and what you're saying about your music
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true artist, because none of it
is rehearsed. It's just you're just being
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you and expressing yourself, and that's
the only way an artist should be.
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It's the only thing that matters.
So for that, I'm a fan,
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and everybody listening should be a fan, even if they don't like your music,
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be a fucking fan, or you
can't listen to my show. How
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love you, dude? Thank you? So tell everybody I reach out to
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you guys on socials, on the
web, all that stuff, and how
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to buy merch because it's the only
way bands survived nowadays. And that's another
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thing I always told listeners. They
don't by band merch, they don't listen
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to my show. Hey, so
uh yeah, you can come see us
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on the road our Instagram as we
are DPS, Twitter as we are DPS.
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And if you want to buy merch, dropping the seventh with the single
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is gonna be a whole new line, So go out and get it.
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We are DPS dot com. Baby
yeah, find it, love it?
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Any final words you want to leave
the listeners with? No man, that
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was an awesome story, and thank
you so much for having us, Hey,
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thank you for being here at Oklahoma, and thanks for being on the
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Adventures plate Man. Thanks Man,
Thank you for listening to the adventures of
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plate Man. I'm W four CUI
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Hey, you love them too?
Sure, I'm on four se Wow,
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Wake up America. It's time for
the Adventures of Pipe Man on W four
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cy dot com. West Palm Beach
is number one Internet radio station. Here's
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your host, the pipe Man.
You anyway, Foma, stay home?
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Bet shit in medic plea. This
is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
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pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with Jack and Will.
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We're in Dead Poet Society. Nice. So, right off the bat,
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you probably hear this a lot.
How many times do people Google search
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you and get the wrong shit?
I think every single time. More unique
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thing that happens is there's like a
poetry following on Instagram, and we get
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tagged in this community where they just
it's just versus. We get tagged in
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so many verses with backdrops and hashtag
Dead Poets Society. Well, there you
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go. There's some lyric ideas right
there. Yeah. Our handle is we
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are DPS. Sometimes we get Denver
Public Schools or Detroit Public Schools. We
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get a nice little showcase of what
they're up to. Wow tag us.
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Well you know what what's funny about
tagging on Instagram? It's sometimes you pull
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up stuff and Instagram shows you shit
the tag, but the pictures so small
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that you can't really tell if that's
the right one. Yeah, and that
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probably happens to you too, Yeah, that happens. Yeah. Like I
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was tagging somebody this morning, I'm
like, that doesn't look like it's theirs,
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And I had to redo the whole
post so I could get That's what
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sucks. I had to get off
and get back on to make sure I
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knew which one it was and redo
the post all over again. I know,
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right, shouldn't be that difficult.
Come on, come on, Instagram,
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make it so I can make sure
I know it's the right one.
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Yeah. Just recently, they finally
started letting you like press on the profile
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picture and it actually brings up a
larger picture. That's the problem. I've
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been waiting for that for about ten
years now, because it's just like,
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who is that? Who's I think
that's the right person? And stop giving
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me suggestions for threads when I'm on
Instagram. Yeah, oh my gosh,
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dude, I get that little like
thing underneath the bio where it says what
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what how like what person you were
in line to sign up for threads?
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It's like I don't care, right, Like, why do we need another
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Twitter or x I X. Come
on, Oh, that's a whole nother
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story. That's just stupids. I
know why he did it though, where
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I think I know why he did
SpaceX and then he has an X series
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Tesla. He also had I think
he had a company called X that didn't
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quite work out. That he wanted
PayPal to be X, which was like
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the all encompassing banks social media blah
blah blah blah blah. So he's gonna
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destroy Twitter too, he's working on
it. So what wait, you can't
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call it a tweet anymore? What
you call it? Exit and sun.
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If seeing something sounds like I'm gonna
exit, it just doesn't. It sounds
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like, well I was gonna say
it sounds like you're blocking somebody. But
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now he's he's talking about removing the
block button. Yeah, that's just stupid
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as shit. I ever heard like
free speech, okay, free speech okay,
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doesn't mean I have to listen.
Nobody said it's called free hearing.
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Dude, I'm kind of excited for
the chaos. I'm not gonna lie,
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like you know, I don't Partisser, our guitarist hands all that handles all
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the Twitter stuff, and I never
go on there. So I'm just like,
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I don't know, you kind of
want to watch the Pitchforks fly,
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right. I think I didn't like
Twitter before, and now it's like and
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I didn't go on there. I
just have everything going mac Now it's like,
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I don't even want to go on
there. It's like ridiculous. And
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he posts more than anybody. Yeah, yeah, he's quite active on there.
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Oh my god. So it never
caught on for me. There you
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go, Well, at least they're
not when they're googling you, they're not
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confusing you with him. Yeah you
don't. So tell our listeners a little
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bit. You guys rock, but
some of our listeners might not know how
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good you are. How would you
describe your music? Not genre bullshit?
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I hate that shit because, like
why you have to be in one genre?
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But artists usually have a different opinion
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even when it comes to genres or
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who gave you that label? You
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I'd say it's easiest to say that
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are so many different flavors of ice
cream, Like you can just oh,
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this is mint chocolate chip, but
all now we threw in a fucking granola
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bar. I don't know. But
at the end of the day, it's
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ice creams, you know. So
we all have influences, like I love
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R and B and fucking jazz and
hip hop and stuff, and but at
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the foundation of what I grew up
playing is rock and that's kind of what
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we all bring to the table.
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When it comes together, it's like
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way. It's just what happens to
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experiences, our loves this, and
then it just turns into a song.
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That's why I'm so stoked about this
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It just it kind of is all
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said that because I talk about this
shit all the time. Okay, first
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of all, there's so many ridiculous
genres, microgenres, subgenres. It's game
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like out of hand, so much
so that when I go and do all
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the festivals well I used to do, I haven't been doing it lately.
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I gotta started up again. Is
the band would make up their own genre
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because pretty much every genre only has
one band in it because it's so fine
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tune. We are metalcore, post
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I think we're entering the age of
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like the death of the genre,
at least on the perspective. Everybody listens
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to everything now, I mean,
why wouldn't you. I think that's you
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know, like a lot of people
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kind of the beauty of it is
that you you can now find everything that
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you like. For instance, Okay, so I rent a room from a
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family and Huntington Beach and they just
had their ceilings painted the other day.
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paint the ceilings, I was talking to
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him for a bit and he found
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me about it. I asked him
what do you listen to? And he
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was like, I've been really into
classical time music. And he's just this
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dude from from Los Angeles, born
and raised, and he just he's like
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really connecting with time music that couldn't
happen before streaming just you don't have the
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access to it. And so I
love that perspective because there's good and bad.
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You know, there's times I've also
said Lars was right. You know,
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we all thought he was an asshole, but he was right. Musicians
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are getting dicked over. But then
on the other hand, there's musicians yet
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get more attention or get seen or
heard that normally wouldn't. And like you
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said, certain types of music you
get exposed to. Yeah, you know,
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and listen. I come from the
day of gatekeepers, and I always
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thought it was stupid. So I
love talking about this because nowadays, too,
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with this fine tuning of genres,
I find bands are all sounding the
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same. Like I remember in the
eighties people are saying, yo, yo,
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all those metal bands sound the same, but they fucking didn't, Like
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even the Big four Thrash don't sound
anything alike, you know. But nowadays,
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if you have somebody in a genre
and it's like I can't even tell
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them apart sometimes and some of the
real microgenres because it's like this formula that
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they plug in and it shouldn't be
a oh, like you don't know.
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I hate that shit. It's not
supposed to be a formula, you know,
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and being at I'm like a metal
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a formula and now they do,
like and it's like, oh my god.
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and then guy exposed to this and
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gonna be influenced by multiple genres.
Now you have a band, each one
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has multiple genres. That blending of
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unique sound to stand out above the
rest, whereas the other way you don't.
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something that we kind of thriving as
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a band is we are so adhd
about our music. We don't write the
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same song twice pretty well ever.
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stuff we have coming down the pipeline, Like some of it's heavy, some
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of it's like almost straight up pop, some of it's uh, you know,
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like all and it's just we prefer
albums that kind of garner your attention
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the entire time. And so the
way you do that is you make music
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that fits every vibe. And that's
what the stuff we have coming down the
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pipeline is yeah, just whatever's real, you know, people are gonna connect
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with it. And it's funny because
he's mentioned the gatekeepers. The gamekeepers don't
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even know what's going to blow up, Like who's that country kid? Who
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just Oliver Oliver Anthony. Yeah you
know that anyway, because he's everywhere and
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no one saw that coming. But
now everyone's just trying to get their hands
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on him. Right, And look
at jelly Roll, like charting in every
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genre, like he charts in metal, rock, hip hop and country and
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pop. Yeah, I mean that
says it all to me, Like that's
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the way it should be, like
that you can't get a charting in this
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genre because you're that genre. But
we know who did that and they're losing
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the power. And that is one
of the benefits of streaming is the record
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labels. Yeah, yeah, they're
the ones that did that. So now
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that you have artists that don't need
to rely on them anymore, they're more
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like you where you can just play
whatever you feel, and that's to me,
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that's authentic music. Yeah, it's
the most important I think. Yeah,
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it's just you write music that you
feel and as long as you're being
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true to your own emotions and that
you actually like it, there's going to
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be somebody out there that likes it
too and connects with exactly what you were
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feeling. And you know, I
gotta say unpopular opinion, but bring Me
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to Rise and it's a perfect pioneers
for what we're talking about. Yeah,
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you know, and a lot of
people are hating on them, But you
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know what I heard Ali air view
and was like, why do I want
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to write the same song every time? Yeah? Because you're not always in
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the same mood You're not always going
through the same experience you were on the
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last album. Life is evolving and
music is an evolution. Yeah, and
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so were you. Yeah, that's
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and you're evolving as your skills as
a musician. How many of those gatekeepers
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and I've been guilty of it myself. They have these bands that they love
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when they're like the garage band,
and as soon as they start getting better
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at their craft, that so their
music changes because they're better at their craft,
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and the old school people are hating
on them for doing that. I
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look at Metallic as an example.
James said recently, like at the San
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Jose Shark Games, they play Seek
and Destroy, but they played the original
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version from off of Kill Them All, and he's like, I fucking hate
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that they played that version. I
sucked. My voice was terrible. I
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didn't even know as sing now me, who's old school Metallica fan? I
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love that old raw James voice?
Ye, but I could see as an
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artist why you wouldn't want to stay
a beginner. And that's the point,
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like, why would you want to
stay a beginner? You want to get
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better at your craft? Yeah,
yeah you do. And you know,
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we have a few songs that we
can't wait to get out of our set
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list because we're just so overlaying it. We were completely different people at that
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point, you know. So it
was funny after Shock one year, Blink
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one eight two was headlining before the
reunion, a lot of people were leaving
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because they were all like, yeah, I dug this when I was fifteen,
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but it doesn't apply to me anymore. The listeners, and that that
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says it all right there, of
what you're saying, it's not only for
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the artist, but for the listener. Maybe you can't relate to what they're
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singing about anymore. If you're still
singing about that, you know, Yeah,
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some of the things you take from, like, there's a lot of
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eighties fans here, some of the
things they were singing about just don't apply.
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In fact, there's a lot of
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get anywhere today with some of the
things they were singing about. You know,
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Reagan. Yeah I love it,
oh man, But yeah, listen
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today in twenty twenty three, with
every day that's going on, if you
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sing a song about Reagan, it
would be a browl song, no comment,
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you know, right, it's like, oh my god. Back then,
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it's like who could get a worse
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his kids said he'd be a Democrat
today. Oh my god. It's got
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an extreme out there. So I
like your tat there because it looks like
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you're like somebody's gonna fall into your
black hole. Yeah, that's exactly what
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it is. It's a black hole
on a graph. I love it.
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too. It's my favorite text. You
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like that. I figured out that's
why it was. Yeah cool, So
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tell us about the new album more
so people can check it out and order
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it and and all that stuff.
Yeah, So we have Running in Circles
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coming out September seventh. It's the
first single off of the Thing that's coming
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next, the Inevitable Thing, and
uh, I'm excited for it. This
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new, this new everything that's coming
is uh, it's our favorite stuff that
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we've ever written, and we're really
proud of it. See. I love
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hearing that because like, if it's
not your favorite, how's it gonna be
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anybody else's? Precisely you know,
And that I think goes along with what
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I was saying about growing as a
musician. You know, you probably look
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back on your original music and like
the fuck was I thinking? Yeah all
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the time? Dude, right right? And then how many people want you
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want to hold onto that? You
know? It's like, oh, how
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come you're not doing this anymore?
How can you? How can you take
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that song out of Settlers? Like
can't believe it? But like you said,
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I know if I was a musician
like some of these bands around for
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forty years, having played the ship
for forty years? Are you kidding me?
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Near my studio? I'm friends with
him Vanilla Ice? Okay, sick
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dude, coolest motherfucker, I gotta
tell you the story too. Then if
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you think that's sick, because at
first, somebody came up to me many
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years ago and they're like hey,
and I'm an eighties metal head, so
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they're like, hey, you should
interview Vanilla Ice because he lives in the
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area. I'm like, why,
that was exactly what I said. But
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he goes well because like, first
of all, you should go check out
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he's doing this event downtown West Palm. Check it out and you'll see why.
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And I showed up and there were
like fifty thousand people there. I'm
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like, holy fuck sick. And
then I found out he had to number
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one single in London at the time. And then he has his d I
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Y show. But then we do
this event in my town where my studio
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I was. I was broadcasting live. So I'm and he because he lives
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in town, he's so cool.
He performs at this event every year for
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free. That's awesome because his manager
wanted to charge the town ten grand and
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he's not. He told his manager
nope, like this is my community.
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I'm not going to charge my community. So that alone, I think he's
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cool as shit. But then that's
awesome. What happened was is so this
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first event, he's doing. The
deal I made is okay loo, I
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want to interview with him. Every
time he came over during the day to
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do the interview to sit down,
his manager dragged him away somewhere and listen.
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I do this a lot, so
I wasn't butt hurt by that because
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I'm used to it. It happens, that's the way it goes, Okay.
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At the end of the night,
the manager walks up to me and
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he goes, sorry, he can't
do the interview. He's got another event
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to go to. I watch him
run across the amphitheater field and sit down
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my chair. Shoo away his manager. He goes, I promised you an
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interview. I'm giving you an interview. That's awesome. He didn't have to
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do so that there makes them cool. But it gets better, okay.
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So then he invites me to broadcast
live at his event in downtown West Palm,
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the big event. I come down
there the first year and he helps
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me unload my vehicle of all the
radio. Shame I got slipnot blasting,
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and he starts headbanging and I like
rolled my eyes at him. I'm like
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really, He goes, no,
man, you don't get it, dude,
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this is my jam, Like I
helped them get signed. I'm so
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fucking sick of singing ice Ice Baby. I wrote it when I was sixteen
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years old, to the point of
what we're talking about. So that was
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cool. But then okay, the
second year he has me there and this
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high up director at Clear Channel walks
up to my booth before they were iHeart
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and they were like just dipping into
iHeart and they're like, you need to
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take your booth down. They were
playing you know, Big Bad Wolf,
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and I'm like, oh, well, why I played stupid at first?
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Oh, because we're Clear Channel and
we pay for this event and we don't
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want you here. I'm like,
well, clear Channel clear right always.
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We don't care, blah blah blah
blah, Like I'm not your competition.
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I'm just some little station, your
Clear Channel and there, and they're like,
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no, we're because I'm Internet radio
and they're like, no, we're
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iHeart. So like they were deeming
me as our competition, which I'm sitting
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thinking my head, I must be
pretty fucking good if they've they got I'm
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the competition. Okay, you know
this is like fifteen years ago. Okay,
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So then she was just not nice
at all, so I stopped playing
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nice. I'm like, listen,
if Rob tells me to leave, I'll
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leave. I'm not leaving because you
tell me to leave. And oh,
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she had smoke coming out of her
ears. Man, she was so pissed.
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She went up on the stage while
he's sound checking. Whatever she said
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to him. All I heard over
to Mike Webs, get the fuck off
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my stage and leave my fucking radio
station alone. Right. They were paying
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him, I wasn't paying him.
I would have walked if he said,
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Hey, dude, do me a
favor, no problem. Then he brings
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her upstairs his club in downtown West
Palm Beach into an office. Next thing
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you know, she comes down.
She's apologizing to me, and then he
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moves me to his meet and green
area. He says, here's where you're
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going to broadcast. Fuck them,
And then the next year he for that.
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I have respect for him for the
rest of my life because he put
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his values before money and he didn't
have to protect me at all. So
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then next year he comes up to
me at the air vent, Hey,
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you can't come broadcast again. I
kicked Clear Channel at n I don't put
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up with that corporate radio bullshit.
I don't like how they treated you.
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And I was like, holy fuck, he's the real deal. So like,
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the proof of that is you look
at people artists. You can assume
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whatever you want to assume, but
we're all people and at the end of
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the day, whatever people may have
thought of him, they're probably wrong because
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he's a badass dude that is totally
loyal and totally cool and true to the
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art, and that's the only way
you should be. The next part of
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a story, I get a phone
call from Clear Channel. Hey, we've
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been listening to your station for a
year. We're daring this new thing called
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iHeart Talk. It was the beginning
of podcasting. We want partner with you
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and get your content on there,
and we want you to bate to test
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it. So nice moral the story
is stand up to a big, bad
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wolf. They might end up your
partner right on, dude, So I
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say it at because I love what
you're doing being true to the art.
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You know, listening to you guys, and what you're saying about your music
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true artist, because none of it
is rehearsed. It's just you're just being
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you and expressing yourself, and that's
the only way an artist should be.
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It's the only thing that matters.
So for that, I'm a fan,
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and everybody listening should be a fan, even if they don't like your music,
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be a fucking fan, or you
can't listen to my show. How
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love you, dude? Thank you? So tell everybody I reach out to
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you guys on socials, on the
web, all that stuff, and how
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to buy merch because it's the only
way bands survived nowadays. And that's another
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thing I always told listeners. They
don't by band merch, they don't listen
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to my show. Hey, so
uh yeah, you can come see us
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on the road our Instagram as we
are DPS, Twitter as we are DPS.
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And if you want to buy merch, dropping the seventh with the single
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is gonna be a whole new line, So go out and get it.
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We are DPS dot com. Baby
yeah, find it, love it?
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Any final words you want to leave
the listeners with? No man, that
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was an awesome story, and thank
you so much for having us, Hey,
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thank you for being here at Oklahoma, and thanks for being on the
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Adventures plate Man. Thanks Man,
Thank you for listening to the adventures of
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plate Man. I'm W four CUI
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