PipemanRadio Interviews Instrumental Psych Rockers MONKEY3
Join The Pipeman from the vibrant landscapes of Costa Rica where time zones wreak havoc on our schedules, yet music remains the universal constant. Listen in as I chat with the enigmatic Swiss band Monkey 3 about their latest track "Collision," a...
Join The Pipeman from the vibrant landscapes of Costa Rica where time zones wreak havoc on our schedules, yet music remains the universal constant. Listen in as I chat with the enigmatic Swiss band Monkey 3 about their latest track "Collision," a sonic exploration of the tumultuous dance between man and machine. The conversation with Monkey 3 unfolds to reveal the heart of their new music and the captivating visualizer that accompanies it. We probe into the broader spectrum of AI's role in the music industry, weighing the convenience of AI assistance against the pure creativity of human musicianship. The debate rages on: can machines enhance the artistry of music, or do they threaten its very soul?
Venture further with me as we reflect on how sci-fi masterpieces might just be the blueprint for tomorrow's tech, from Terminator to AI humanoids sharing the stage at industry keynotes. The episode is a melodic journey through the evolving landscapes of music consumption—from the tactile joy of vinyl hunting to the communal ecstasy of live festivals like Hellfest. Special moments, like a chance encounter with David Bowie, underscore the irreplaceable human element in music that no AI can replicate. So, tune in and share in the musings on how music not only shapes our thoughts but continues to be a vessel for our shared human experiences, regardless of the hour hand's position.
EPISODE CHAPTERS (0:00:05) - Exploring AI, Music, and Human Behavior (0:16:14) - Technology, Music, and Future Speculations
EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS (0:00:05) - Exploring AI, Music, and Human Behavior Costa Rica, time zones, man vs. machine in music, AI integration, fear and excitement surrounding AI in art and communication. (0:16:14) - Technology, Music, and Future Speculations Science fiction, music, and live performances are discussed, along with their impact on technology, animal intelligence, and the changing ways we interact with music.
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Hi, you have unto censure for
Wow, cra you young? Whycome America.
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It's time for the Adventures of Pipe
Man on W four c Y dot
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Com. West Pompeas is number one
internet radio station. Here's your host,
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the pipe Man. This is the
pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man
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W four c Y Radio. And
I'm here with our next guest, who
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uh you know. It's been a
little while, but we met on the
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other side of the world from where
I'm at now, and I'm not even
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at my home now. I'm in
Costa Rica right now, and we had
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the time zones totally are messed up
because I was ready for him about an
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hour ago. But we don't change
the time zones in Costa Rica, Europe
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and U K hasn't changed their time
zone yet, and the United States changed
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it. So I don't think anybody
in the world has any clue what time
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it is right now, but we're
here, and we're here with Monkey three.
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How are you bro Hi, I'm
all right here. It's eight pm
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in Switzerland. Yeah, so it's
one pm here in Costa Rica. And
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it's funny because the interview was set
up on Eastern time zone because that's my
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normal time zone. And it's like
now, like a couple days ago,
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we were an hour away from Eastern
time zone. Now we're two hours away.
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So it's like you just have not
at this time of year. I
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deal with it all the time too, Like I have clients in Europe and
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the UK and Australia and there's even
like half hour time zones. Did you
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know that. It's it's like it's
it's like so weird to me. But
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no matter where you are in the
world, you guys are badass musicians.
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And I am loving, loving,
loving the new track Collision absolutely, and
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I even love the visualizer video.
Like most visualizer videos, I'm like,
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okay, well I'll just listen to
it, but I was watching I was
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like, man, this is really
cool. So tell us a little bit
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about it about the track or the
video of both both. Well, the
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track when he's the second track of
the record, and the idea was to
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have the first part of the track
or most entirely uh electronic, you know,
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digital sounds. Electronic sounds just have
like an analog bass and a bit
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of guitar. But the idea was
really centered about those electronic sounds. And
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then comes the second part where you
have all the analog sound of the band
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that kicks in and that beat the
ship up the electronic sound, you know,
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right, that sort of collision between
uh, you know, the man
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and the machine basically, and it
ends up as big chaos and you know,
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we don't know what will happen.
So that was basically the idea of
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the track, and the visualizer is
also about that, you know, like
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a sort of half man half machine
kind of weird world. I won't say
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like a terminator thing, but get
that vibe in it, you know.
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And it was the idea of having
that sci fi kind of vibe into it.
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It's not so far from reality today
with AI and everything that's going on.
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As a matter of fact, there's
a conference that I do radio coverage
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for radio broadcasting podcasting industry that they're
doing a keynote speech with a human and
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a humanoid using AI. Yeah that's
weird, right, So your visualizer is
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not that far off. It's almost
like it's not even science fiction in twenty
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twenty four. Yeah, that was
the point, right. So so and
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then you have the new album Welcome
to the Machine again appropriate for twenty twenty
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four because it is the year of
the machine. Like even in our industry,
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like there's so much, like in
my industry, so much AI is
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getting thrown at us to do things
like even this interview. I will probably
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use AI to write the show notes
for it, because the AI does it
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a lot quicker than I do,
and it's pretty onto my end. I
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edit it, you know, because
it's not it's not right all the time,
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and it's not grammatically right. But
it takes a lot of work off
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my hands. But then there's a
controversy as a musician, and I think
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I'm on that controversy. Is like, I don't think AI should be making
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music. Music is an art,
you know, and music is something that
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is from human expression and emotion.
And I'd rather see a badass musician like
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you playing music then somebody punching a
couple of kids and then all of a
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sudden it makes a song. Yeah. To be fair, I don't know
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what to think about it yet,
right, I have not figured it out,
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you know, it's too new to
understand it. But the thing is,
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well, I don't think that AI
might be a bad thing. I
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would say that it depends who and
why you will use it. Yeah,
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exactly who uses it and for what
purposes you know you use it? I
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agree, And the history teaches us
that a lot of times some nice things
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were used by some not very nice
people. True, very very true.
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And I think it's already happening in
twenty twenty four too. I mean,
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I don't know, I don't know. For me, it's a bit too
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fresh to really understand what's going on
with that. But it kind of scares
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me. Actually, it has scared
me since the eighties. Like even in
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the eighties, I was like,
the machines are going to take over now,
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like you're saying, I agree,
there's a time and place and what
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you're using. For me as a
radio personality, my artistic ability is being
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on the radio, being on a
podcast, okay, But it doesn't have
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to mean I have to write the
show notes and do this like of course
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you know you had to before.
But now if I could spend more time
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just doing better interviews and having the
AI write up the synopsis of that interview,
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then I think it's a benefit.
But if AI I was completely doing
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the interview like I had, I
had a client recently sent me voiceover for
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commercials for us to produce for them, and it was done with AI.
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And I wrote her back, I'm
like, yeah, I would prefer a
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human voice. You could totally tell
it was computerized, and it didn't.
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It didn't invoke emotion, which is
what machine machines don't invoke emotion. Now,
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when the machines start invoking emotion,
having human emotions and human thinking and
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human decision making, then I will
be worried. And I don't know if
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you're aware of this, but do
you know why self driving cars have not
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yet been like the commonplace yet?
No, So when they do these testing,
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okay, they have a car like
drive on mountain road and they put
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and basically what they do is they
have the AI put like a baby in
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the middle of the road that and
the self driving car is supposed to decide
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whether to hit the baby and save
the driver or drive off the cliff avoiding
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the baby. And so they haven't
been able to figure out for how for
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it to make a human decision yet. And it's kind of like you mentioned
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the Terminator. It's the same thing
as like that or like in Star Wars,
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where their primary objective is to protect
the human so they sacrifice themselves.
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So what the self driving cars are
doing is every single time they're driving off
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the cliff and killing the driver because
the directive is to protect the baby,
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you know, which that might be
a human decision, but maybe a human
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decision with decide to try to stop
and not hit the baby and not kill
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themselves either. So once they can
figure out how the machine can think,
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act and make decisions like a human, that's when I'm scared. Well,
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actually, what scares me the most
is not what you're saying. What scares
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me is when humans start behaving like
machines. Yes, and this is already
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happening because the machine, you can
unplug it, but you cannot unplug a
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human being. A great point.
You cannot unplug the human mind and you
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can not unplug history. And this
gives me most is when humans will start
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to behave like machines. What a
great point and perspective on that, because
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while you're saying, I was thinking
about wow, like that is kind of
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going on right now where certain people
don't remember history because they disregarded or rewrited
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or what have you. Or even
as an example, I was just on
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a conversation like fifteen minutes ago with
somebody talking about the weather in a certain
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place, and I was telling this
person like, yeah, it gets really
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cold there, and they're like,
but does it snow. I'm like,
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doesn't matter whether it snows or not. All I was talking about was it
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gets cold there. And he's like, yeah, I highly doubt it gets
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cold there if it doesn't snow.
And then he proceeded to Google the place
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and read me off the actual averages
and I'm like, but you're not understanding.
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I told you I was there and
I experienced He's like, no,
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it wasn't that temperature. He was
literally saying to me, No, it
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wasn't that temperature. I'm like,
we're not going off of Google. We're
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going off of I was actually there
and that was the temperature it was,
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you know, And that goes with
your point, because a machine is not
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going to listen to that. They're
just going to go by the statistics and
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probabilities. And that's exactly what he
was doing. He's going by statistics opposed
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to actual experiences. So tell everybody
how they connect to you guys on socials,
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on the web, how they can
get the new album, check out
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the Collision and everything about you guys. Get your merch all that good stuff.
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Well, actually all the videos on
YouTube, as for everyone know YouTube,
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go on YouTube right China or the
new SAP Records channel. You can
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find them there to purchase the records
obviously on our own website Monkey. Threeofficial
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dot com shows are there too,
and tickets for the upcoming tour out there
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too. Obviously. You can buy
the record LPs and CDs on the Npalm
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Record web shop or go to your
local record store. Go to the record
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store and buy records. But you
can still listen to it on Spotify or
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whatever streaming platform platform we find these
days. But buy records. If you
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love music, buy records, or
go to the shows. That's where music
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happens. There's nothing like a live
show, you know, that's just the
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live show. You can buy records
and merch. There you go and eight
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positions and have fun and have some
beers and whatever. So and looking in
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your background is one of those instruments
your favorite? Behind you in looking in
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your background behind you, yeah,
is one of those instruments your favorite?
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No, well, I kind of
dig those guitars, but I guess my
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main guitar is not at home at
the moment. There you go in the
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practice space and going back to what
we were talking about before a little bit,
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like, so your inspiration, some
of your inspiration is from things like
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movies like two thousand and one Space, I see the Matrix, Solaris,
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nineteen eighty four Sunshine. Yeah.
Would you say now in twenty twenty four,
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if any of those movies right now
remind you of what we're living right
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now or what we're going to well
all of that, right, But I
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would say that the book Brave New
Word might be something we are experiencing now.
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Yeah, you know, I would
say that the Matrix might be something
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that looks way more real than when
the movie was released, right. I
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think about that one a lot nowadays
of like hmm, and but yeah,
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obviously all those movies or books,
you know, they sometimes I ask myself
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if those masterpieces predicting the future or
the future is becoming like we might have
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think about what it could be,
you know, and we push it to
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be like that. I don't know. I wonder that all the time too.
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I wonder if like they put out
these movies because they already have the
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technology and they're getting people used to
it, or if people watch these movies
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are like brainiacts and they figure a
way to make it true. Or maybe
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they just did those movies because they
had good story to tell. So when
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you have a good story to tell, you do it. And that's right
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there were Maybe they weren't thinking that
much about what could happen. I mean,
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when you watch a movie like Terminator, it's an action movie basically,
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but the idea behind it, could
we imagine that it would have been not
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like the movie, but that we
are coming close to that. Yeah,
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in the eighties we were not thinking
about that. No. I even take
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a movie like okay, so I'm
in Costa Rica right now, and I
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take a movie like Playing the Apes
and just the other day somewhere else at
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I was like, oh my god, that could so happen, because like
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these monkeys are so freaking smart,
and it's like I'm just thinking we're getting
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dumber and they're getting smart. So
you never know. And I think that's
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what music's about too. I think
music is an expression, but it's also
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something that you know, paints and
picture makes you think. And I think
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that's what happens with your music in
my opinion. You know, I listen
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to it and it just it brings
me on a journey somewhere else, and
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in twenty twenty four, I need
as many journeys somewhere else that I can
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get. Actually, it was it's
the purpose of the record this right,
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Obviously there's a concept behind it,
and we tried to express our feelings and
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emotions towards that concept. But the
thing, because it's still music, is
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just to be entertaining. Yes,
well in some way, so yeah,
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we just work on trying to be
entertainers, but also trying to share some
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ideas thoughts, you know, stuff
like that. Love. The people that
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will listen to the record will maybe
feel it too. We'll see there it
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is, I'm sure they will.
And is there any final thoughts? You
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want to leave our lessons with anything
that we haven't covered already, Go buy
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records to a record shop like this, like those I have a story for
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that. When I was a kid, well, there was no internet,
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nothing, and every Saturday morning I
was going to the record shop in my
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hometown here in Los Ange, Switzerland
with my dad and it was like giving
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giving me a few backs and saying, okay, choose a record. And
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the first time we did that,
we were in the record shop where my
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dad used to go every weekend,
and David Bowie was there because he was
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living in Lazon at the time.
Wow. And when I bought my first
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record, it was the same day
that David Bowie was buying records in the
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same record show. Wow, that
is pretty cool. And I bought Rulling
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Stone Records. You know, That's
where I think a lot of people are
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missing some great experiences. Like I've
had so many great experiences at record stores
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and just buying albums, and it
was a full experience, Like I would
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sit there and like, first of
all, I'd listen to the album over
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and over again, and it wouldn't
be like track track track, you listen
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to the whole thing. I would
look at all the artwork. I remember
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even okay, so interesting, well, brilliant marketing plan. But I remember
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I was a big Beatles fan when
I was a kid. I would buy
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albums to find the clues that Paul
McCartney was dead, because they had that
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whole thing, the sixty nineteen sixty
nine radio show where he was dead,
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and they put the clues on all
these albums. Or you would get these
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albums and play them backwards to hear
what they said backwards, or just so
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many different experiences and stuff that I
think goes that's the complete artistry of music.
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It's not just the music itself,
it's everything goes along with it,
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the whole experience. And you know, yeah, and you bought albums you
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didn't even know what they sounded like. Okay, you just bought them because
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of that art artistry first, Yeah, and then you listen to it.
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Like funny story, probably unpopular,
but the first time I bought Black and
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Back in Black, I hated the
album, but I because I spent I
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spent money on it. I just
kept playing over and over again, and
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then I started to love it.
And I think that's what people miss today
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because not every song that you listen
to do you love it the first time
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you hear it, because you hear
different things every time you listen to it
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again. Yeah, and actually you
should not listen to Vacuum Black. You
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should listen to the album Powerage.
That's right. I agree. I'm totally
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team Bond Spot and Bond Scott,
by the way, and that's probably why
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I didn't Black Back in Black.
You know, I'm also team Paul Diano
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too, which dates me a little
bit. Because how many Maiden fans nowadays
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know we even know who that is
that are not old school Maiden fans,
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you know. So any shows coming
up or festivals coming up in the next
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year that you want to talk about
or can talk about, Yeah, we
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we We started the tour for the
album end of April, so go on
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our website all the dates of their
tea cats everything. Nice. Definitely,
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they have to go to your live
show for sure, get and buy the
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album at the live show. Some
fun, share the whole thing with us,
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having a beer together after the show. Everything. It's a fun experience,
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it is. And I'll probably be
at health Fest again this year because
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that is a badass festival this Yeah, unfortunately, but if you happen to
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be there, I did already get
my press credential, so I should be
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there unless something happens. But I
should be there because anybody that has never
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gone to hell Fest, they're missing
out. That's certainly a severe experience there.
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Yeah, and so I'm glad I
met you. Then, I'm glad
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I'm talking now. Your music just
keeps getting better and better, and everybody
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has to support you or they can't
listen to my show. Thank you.
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Thanks a lot for being here and
thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe
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Man. We welcome see you next
time. Absolutely cheers, bye bye.
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