Sept. 27, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Little King About New Album Lente Viviente

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Hi, you love don too, Censure, Wow, cray you.

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Bounce, Stone, bake Stones, Walk Shop Back.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio. And our next guest

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has some killer new music coming out. So let's welcome

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to the show, Ryan from Little King.

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Pipe Man, appreciate you having a song Man album's coming

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out tomorrow. So we're excited and busy and yeah, fucking

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running a little bit ragged.

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It's all good though, right, that's the fun part, right,

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I don't know, Like, I mean.

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What kind of masochism are you into? Bro?

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You know, well, if you're in music, you're you're into masochism.

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That's the bottom line.

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It's like a life. It's a lifelong affliction. No, dude,

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this is a fun part for sure. You know, make

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a record, you're super fucking proud of it, like you

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love the guys you're playing with and your whole team,

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and you know, after doing this for like twenty eight years,

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which is basically where I'm at right now, making records,

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like all I do is work with people that I dig,

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and so like being able to celebrate the next few

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days in a few weeks with those guys is pretty

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dope for sure.

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Well, you know, that's what you figure out when you

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get older, because when you start a band when you're

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a kid, you think these people are your lifelong friends,

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and most of them never last past teenage years, you know,

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And then when you get to the later stages, it's like,

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you know, I don't have to deal with all that

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fucking drama. Why don't I just play with people I like?

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And I mean, I don't want to be pejorative too much,

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but like drama and musicians, it's sort of like you know,

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Telly or bong, water and the floor or whatever. You know,

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it is what it is. But I definitely have appreciated

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the last twenty years with the last two guys I

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was with, and particularly Eddie Garcia. You know, shout out

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to him. He's a drove for pissing raisers. I don't

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know if you're familiar with them. He's played in Overkill

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for a while, he's been around, and he and I

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have made a bunch of records together, go like five

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over the last twenty years. And so it is the

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first one I haven't made with him since two thousand

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and three. And I think, just like I'm in a

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fresh perspective. You know, I live in Tucson now and

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Eddie's and El Paso, and so for the longest time,

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no matter where the fuck I was living, dude, in

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the in the US, like Delaware or San Jose, Yeattle, even,

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I was always going to El Paso to make records.

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But this time, you know, I've been in Tucson five years,

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and I take care of my mom and I take

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care of my son. I'm a single dad to you,

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amongst all the other fucking nights. Then I'm doing, you know,

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So I just wanted to stay local. So I found

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someone cool here and got some new musicians. Even though

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Dave the bass player played on our last couple of records,

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he plays cello TuS He's a ranger. But yeah, dude's

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kind of a breath of fresh air. And just like

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as I listen back to the tracks, you know, you

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always take a you should always take a couple of

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weeks off from listening to your stuff. When you're done.

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You know, it's just not fresh to you, Like it's not.

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It sounds terrible, right to be honest with you. But

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after going back after a couple of weeks and revisiting

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and getting ready for all the interviews of the press

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and stuff. Yeah, dude, it's like, okay, I listen back.

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It's like, really glad for the decisions that I made

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this time. They were pretty adult. Nice.

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Well. I think one of the best decisions you made too,

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is not having to go to El Paso, because if

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I never have to go to El Paso, I'd be

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perfectly happy.

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You know, there's there's a charm there, and it's hard

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to explain to people who haven't lived there, because yeah, clearly,

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like if you're on fucking it ten blaze in east

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or West, it's a blow through, you know. You know,

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you know, there's nothing to recommend it. But when you

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get in and you start to meet the people and

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you find the nooks and the Mexican food, which is absolutely.

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Well, yeah, it's good for Mexican food for sure.

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Yeah. And I have so many homies there, dude, and

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they're just salid. I mean, it's not the most affluent city,

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it's not the most highly like masters in PhD level educatedcy,

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but there's some fucking great people there, dude. And so

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even though yes, it is not like Bali or like

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or like Big Sir, you know, it's not. No one's

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ever gonna mistake it for that at least, Like the

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people are pretty down there there, to be honest with you,

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compared to almost all the other places I've ever been.

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Well that that's good to hear. My Actually, my daughter

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with her ex husband wins in the military, so they

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were stationed. They'll pass so for a while.

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Yeah, Four Bliss brings like I mean, they're like sixty

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thousand people at Fort Bliss or something. But the peripheral

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plus I mean that's a huge part of like the

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economy and what goes on there. But yeah, we made

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we made a ton of records there, dude, And like

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I've recorded there for a long time. And yes, it's

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nice to stay home. Two sounds lovely. I like my

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life here, and you know, I'm fifty three and this

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is my eighth record, and so it's time to like

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make some changes. But at the same time, it like

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still sounds like me, Like I can't fucking get away.

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I can't get away from myself, you know.

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So it should always be your foundation, right, It's just

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what you evolve from that foundation. Yeah, the way I

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look at it, and I.

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Think, you know, and as like a as a thoughtful

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and hopefully introspective artist. You know, you're not necessarily looking

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to say, Okay, I've got to progress. Different guitars, different snares,

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sound different arrangements. I don't think that you have to

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that out necessarily to be that way as a long

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term as a longtime artist, but I do think it

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has to be at least part of the equation because

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I don't want to make the same music over and

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over again. But I also know I'm, you know, true

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to the fucking core of who I am, and I

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always have been, you know, all these last years. So

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do we think about it a little bit, Yeah, maybe,

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But the main thing is, like I have to listen

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back now to my back cat lot because it's been

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at it for a minute, right, And so I have

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to make sure I'm not like repeating hooks, for example,

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repeating words, because like we're all predisposed to like going

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back to our fucking habits, right of these words, these phrases,

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these on the guitar, you know, these phrases. And so

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I do definitely hammer my new songs against my old songs,

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like okay, cool, that's actually original, Like I actually haven't

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done that before. Which is at this point, it's kind

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of like a fucking minor miracle, but we do do that.

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Is it is a miracle. It is a miracle because

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there's playing bands that they write new music and they

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don't even realize that it's kind of the old music,

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you know, because it's just hammered in your head.

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Yeah, it's one of those old school tricks that you learn.

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There is I was just telling my girlfriend yesterday. We

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were having a long conversation and the recurring theme was

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that there is no substitute for experience and there it's

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literally is it like it is not something that you

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can approximate now, I was like, and it's like like

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if you're a fucking brain surgeon, dude, Like you can't

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describe to somebody what it's like to cut someone's head

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open and like do it justice. And it's like I'm

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not saying that rock you know, rock and roll records

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are like brain surgery, but it is a sort there

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is a certain thing and like the experience is like, Okay,

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I've made all of the fucking mistakes in the business

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and in the music, like I've seen them also now

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it's like, Jude, they're slipping through as many hands as

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my as my music is through now, then shit, I

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guess it's just meant to be there, you.

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Know, right, And you're right though. It's a good analogy

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because I actually use that analogy for my industry. It's like,

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because you know, I have professional studios, state of the

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art equipment, and you have these people out there that

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think just because you can buy some fifty dollars bundle

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and do it in your bed, that you should and

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they have no clue how to run a mixer board,

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they have no clue about sound quality. They just have

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all ego, like my content is great, and they watch

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a YouTube video to learn how to do a radio

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show or a podcast, And my analogy is always like, yeah,

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you could watch a YouTube video how to do brain surgery,

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and doesn't mean I want somebody play a scalpel to

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my head.

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You know, it's interesting. We live in the age and

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particularly the generation. I'm Generation X. I guess you know

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me too. Generations generations behind us, you know, Millennials and

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Z and whatever. Fuck I don't know all the names

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of it, but you know they have the most access

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and we have the most access to information in the

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history of the world. Everything is our fingertips. It's like

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it flows my mind, you know what you and I

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can you know basically get hard hold facts and figures

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and dates and things like that like that. Like, dude,

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we were pouring through encyclopedias you know about of course

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we were right just to try and get through like

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junior high, dude, like we had to do it even

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elementary school. But with all of this access to information,

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we seem like we're the least likely to use it.

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And that paradox really is, you know, something to reflect on.

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I think a little bit like what are we actually

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doing with now that the Pandora's box has been open

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and everybody can know everything. It's got to send some trouble,

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There's no question about it. I'm not super stoked with

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the way that's all evolved in the last twenty five

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years of first, you know, easy access to fast internet

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and then social media, which is you know, to me

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in a way is just like the scourge of the

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modern era. You know.

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Yeah, well, you know the thing that's missing nowadays is

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critical thinking, you know, and actually reading stuff that you

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research and vetting it. Yeah. Funny, you know, I saw

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somebody post something social media. And I said to a person,

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is that peer reviewed? And their answer to me was, yeah,

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all my friends agree with me. And I'm like, peer

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you're a fucking idiot. That's not what peer reviewed means.

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But that's the world we live in. So yeah, and

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now with AI, like AI is wrong the lot of time,

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but people just take it as the gospel.

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It's really and I you know, don't want to dive

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too deep deeply down that rabbit hole, but it's really

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less and less asking, you know, pushing us to question things.

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The way society has evolved and the way our access

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to information has evolved, and the ease with which we

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can communicate has evolved, it's pushed us, like I said,

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in some dangerous territory. And it's funny, like with social

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media and the way that's it. I mean, we can

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use music examples all day, but just in general, like

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when you were a journalist back in the day, like

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in the seventies, right when we were growing up in

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the eighties or whatever, you probably went to journalism school.

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You probably learned how to write. You probably learn in

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the conventions of grammar and punctuation and alliteration and accidents

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and imagery and similar as the metaphor is that on

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and on, you probably worked your way up in the newsroom.

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You probably learned how to source things, and you learned

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how to interview somebody and then fact check and then

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double check. Anybody with a keyboard now can be a

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keyboard warrior, right, like anybody's with an opinion now. And

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so what's evolved into is like, it's not the most

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knowledgeable opinion, that's the that's the listen to one. It's

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the loudest, the one with the most gravitas, you know,

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is the one that everybody gravitates towards, right, because it's

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just fuck a loud, it's in your face, and so

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you know, that's it. You can we can make those

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musical analogies, but it's you know, it's part of the

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observations that you know that I see over the last

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fifteen or twenty years.

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Speaking of which you if I have this correctly, you

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got a degree in creative writing, right, I did?

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Yeah from UTEP. Actually it I'll pass out.

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Yeah, So how do you how would you tell other

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artists or just the people listening who may want to

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be ours, how that helped you in your songwriting?

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There are certain conventions of elevated writing, and they're flexible

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to a large degree, especially now with how quickly people communicate.

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But learning the way the best of the best did

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it from humans who have studied it their whole lives

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and made it their career and passion is never going

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to be detrimental. Do you have to go in up

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educational in that open mind as fusolutely you do, because

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there's a lot of indoctrination and brainwashing going on at

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all levels right in corporate America and education whatever. But

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learning and studying and understanding how people paint pictures with words,

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and then understanding rhyme and meter and the forms that

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don't use rhymes, you know, which are many. Just practicing

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your craft, like the whole ten thousand hours adage, you know,

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or analogy. I think it prepared me to try and

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find my unique voice more than anything. And I think

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authenticity in this day and age is what really we crave,

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and even if fucking people don't, I'm gonna do it anyway,

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do because That's how I'm going out, you know, is

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just being my true authentic self and so learning how

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to synthesize that, like what's going on in here into

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lyrics or into short stories or into poetry. That's really

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how creative writing is informed. And so now when I

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sit down, I'm writing a song like I bring some,

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I bring some a lot of thoughts to it, and

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I don't want to repeat myself again. But there's so

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many things going on in the world. There's so many

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things that are going on personally. There's so many things

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that are going on personally that are universal, and that

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to me is like what makes a great song. But

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if I hadn't had a creative writing education, would I

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have had such a crystal understanding of kind of how

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a lot of those things work, at least for me,

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then I think I probably wouldn't.

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Well, I think, especially for your music, it seems that

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it's it's kind of storytelling, and you need that creative

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writing experience. Do storytell properly?

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I think, yeah, I mean Troubadour style of songwriting. I'm

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a huge Steely Dan fan, and we don't sound anything

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like Steely Dan, but the way he tells. Donald Fagan

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tells stories in each one of those songs that are

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just really vivid and clear, and his use of imagery

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and just words, he's so good with the language, you know,

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and all of my favorite artists really put a lot

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of time and thought and effort into their lyrics.

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I think it's key, like, you know, funny to your point.

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I also I do like all kinds of festivals. But

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at one of the punk festivals once, uh, when in

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the band, all the bands, all the punk bands, they

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all looked up to the descendants because of their songwriting.

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Not because it's not because of the music. It's because

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they would all talk about what a brilliant songwrit here

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he was, you know, And I think that is key,

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Like that's how to me, that's the hook, okay, because

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if you can relate to that song writing and it's

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something that can take you somewhere else, Yeah, that's good songwriting.

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Well everything, you know. I'm not this is not an

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original thought by Ryan Rose from Little King. This has

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been this has been said before, but like everything should

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serve the song to a degree, and it's kind of like,

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what's the general vibe of this song and then specifics

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the things that you can pull pull into it, whether

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it's the actual composition, whether it's instrumentation that can further

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that song, and like do there are a million fucking

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guys that can play sweeps faster than I can ever, like,

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and I don't have the discipline or the time or

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the energy to sit down and become, you know, like

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I used to be, even which is like really worshiping

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Mega Death and Steve VI and guys like that. Now,

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for me, as we get older, I've reflected on my

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legacy a little bit and kind of the things that

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I'm trying to you know, stand back and be proud

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of and they can live on, you know, hopefully after

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me and with through my kids and things like that,

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and the magic of the interwebs. Right the music's fucking

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everywhere forever, so can't shape it whether you like it

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or not. But like, what my legacy wants to be

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is being able to tell stories and being able to

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make them relatable, setting them the music that's a little

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bit more interesting than maybe just four four all the

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time or the same tempo and same keys. And so

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now as I'm reflecting your legacy, that's really it too,

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is like writing the songs, the perfect song, and we edit,

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we write, we re edit. These are not sit down

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and jam a couple hours at the session, you know,

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at the studio and then kick kick them out. I've

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done that in the past, and there's no shade. Like dude,

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I like that too. It's fun, I mean, and it's

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it's a whole different challenge of your musicianship and a

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part of your brain. But certainly, like when I'm looking

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to put something out, I'm looking for this is, you know,

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Little King twenty twenty five, Like I do. Want to

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make sure that there's some memorable stuff on there, and

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if people don't like it, it's like, fuck, dude, what

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can I do? Like next time? Cool with that?

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You can't please everybody. That's why you gotta please yourself

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and then your tribe will come.

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That's it authenticity. That's what you're saying, you know, being

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authentic to who you are and what you're trying the

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message you're trying to put out, and hopefully people can

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sense that and they gravitate towards it.

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I hope, well totally. So the new album is called

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Lente Bibiente. That's TRCT and my question is what made

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you want to make it? The name of the album

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in Spanish.

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So backing up a little bit to the beginning of

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last year, I started a new company. I like entrepreneurship too.

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You know, I've been a dad my whole life, and

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I've got a support family and kids. I have two

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children that I basically raised, you know, financial one hundred

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percent pretty much, and so start a business in twenty

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twenty four doing video memoirs. I live in Tucson, Arizona,

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which is a huge retirement community, and then of course

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Phoenix is two hours north and there's tons more. So

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basically a bit the thrust of the business is documenting

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people's stories and preserving them for posterity, for their kids

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and for the descendants, you know, going on. And the

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name of the company's Living Lens Memoirs. That's that's what

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we decided to name it. So Lente Viviente means living lens.

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And so as I'm talking to these people through the

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last year and doing some interviews and just meeting peeping

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people at festivals or trade shows, the thing that struck

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me more than anything to do is like how people

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view themselves and how biased they are we are of

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our own opinions of not only ourselves but the world

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around us, and that their kids look at them sometimes

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a lot differently than they look at themselves. And we

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look at ourselves differently because we have the sort of

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psychological dysmorphya where we really have a hard time being

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objective and seeing ourselves. And so hearing these folks tell

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their stories, and most of these people are in their eighties, dude,

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you know, so they've lived a full, rich life, you know,

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and their families are usually there kind of surrounding them.

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The lenses by which we see ourselves and we see

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the world, the filters, the living lens of you know,

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we're here and now what are you doing with all

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this experience and the gathering and the amalgamation of all

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the things that you've learned through the years. So basically,

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the album lent to Viviende is the living lens, and

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it's all of the different ways that filters and perception

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affect how we act and how we react with each other.

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See that's why I wanted to hear the whole story

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behind it, because to me, lente bibiente sounds much better

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than living lens. It just sounds cooler.

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And also, dude, I'm in Tucson. This is definitely forty

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four percent you know, Latino, and I lived in Opata.

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As I said, for a long time, and I've been

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in the last you know, twenty five years or so,

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you know in Spanish culture, really thirty five years because

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I moved down here first in nineteen ninety. So I

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have great love for Spanish and my drummer's Mexican. He's

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from Mexico.

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It's nice.

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Yeah, shout out, dude. And I don't know. The other

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thing too, Like from the business side of it, bro

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is like you look before you make an album and

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release it, you look to see if anybody else has

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used the name. Does that name exist on Apple Music

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and Spotify, And the fact of the matters it doesn't.

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You know, it doesn't.

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There You go, that's great, it.

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Does as of midnight tonight, there it is. There it is.

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And in South Florida, you know, when you call a

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company and it says press one for this and press

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two for this, it's press one for Spanish, two for English.

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So same here in Tucson, Arizona.

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B there it is there, it is.

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Well in the fucking inner ropers, though, do they were

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totally here first?

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Like oh yeah, moved in yeah yeah, And you know

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what the fact that the matter is is, I like

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the Latin culture man they we could learn from them. Yeah,

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we should.

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That's point we should be And we're so again getting

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back to the theme of the album, that we're so biased.

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We're so in doctrinary and immersed in our own beliefs

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and our own cultures, and many of us, you know,

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raised in a very narrow view of how the world

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works without the experience of another culture and things like that.

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There's so much we're fucking humans, dude, Like the artificial

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lines and like what north or south of the line

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you know where you were born is so fucking inconsequential,

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Like the amount of melanin you have in your skin

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is so fucking inconsequential to like what kind of human

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being you are inside of that. They are amazing people

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in every of every race, creed, color, and culture, sexual orientation, gender, whatever.

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And there are fucking douchebags, dude, in every one of those.

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No doubt.

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There you go.

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And I totally agree with that. And the fact is

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you hit on something I'm big about, and that is like,

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until you travel out of your local area, you don't

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know shit because you know what people do. I remember

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the first time I went to Europe and I was like,

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what the hell was everybody telling me, because I don't

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buy it now, you know, because we're so sheltered like

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I have my ex wife, her grandfather never left his

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street his whole life, Okay, And it's like, man, there's

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so many different things to experience out there and cultures

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and how people are. We can all just learn from

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each other.

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Well, and the more you know to realize you don't

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know a fucking thing exactly. When you get to that

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place in your life where you are humble to the

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big picture of it all and the fact that we're

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always learning and growing creatures that can't know anything like

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we just don't. It's the capacity when you've come at

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peace with that. The only thing that student's kindness yea,

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you know, and gratitude and humility, the things that are

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true and pure that we know no matter what religion

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and background or atheists in your point of view you're

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fucking coming from, dude, Like those things are universal, Like

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no one's gonna regret going out as like the kindest, gentlest,

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most humble, most helpful person. So the further we straight

450
00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.279
from that, whatever the reasons are. So when you go

451
00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:26.960
to these different countries, like you you know, you go

452
00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.920
to Europe or I was in Morocco this summer.

453
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:33.000
For five Oh no, shit, that's so wild, that's cool.

454
00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:34.519
I was a Marrakesh with my son, like that was

455
00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:35.240
his graduation.

456
00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:39.240
When did you go? Okay, So I I did radio

457
00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:42.319
coverage at Download and then I was doing hell Fest

458
00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:47.000
and so in between I flew to a Marrakesh. That's

459
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.720
what we were in June. In June in Marrakesh. That's

460
00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:51.400
so funny.

461
00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.559
So we were there end of July and into August.

462
00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:55.920
So we flew to Barcelona and we spent like four

463
00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.400
days in Barcelona. And then it's like it's sixty dollars trip.

464
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.920
You're flying in Europe, as you know, it's so cheap, dude,

465
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.720
it's so cheap. So werew We went down there for

466
00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.920
five days and did the Souks and did the Medina,

467
00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.440
did the camel and did the Agafe Desert in the

468
00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.279
app this mountains and all of that. Bro. It was amazing. Yeah.

469
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.319
Yeah. And you know what I find amazing is when

470
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.160
you go to places like that, all the things that

471
00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:25.319
maybe you were taught or brainwashed about just disappear because

472
00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.759
you realize it's all bunch of bullshit, And like you

473
00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:31.400
say all the buns are humans periods.

474
00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.039
Yes, and it's all through a filter, right, Like, it's

475
00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.480
all through whatever their biases, whatever their DNA is, whatever

476
00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.359
their experiences are. Like, nobody can tell me about Marrakesh

477
00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:44.559
now because I've been there, right, Like, I've seen it

478
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.279
and we walked that whole fucking deal. Did you walk

479
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.039
all the suits? Like, did you go through the market

480
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:49.799
and do that whole thing?

481
00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.720
Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah, And I learned something. Okay, So

482
00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.160
I learned something very good in that marketplace. Whether you

483
00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:01.880
speak Spanish, English or French, they will not stop hike

484
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:05.359
at hockey you. But if you tell those merchants, if

485
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.440
you say lo shukra, they immediately stop.

486
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:11.680
Yeah, that's secret code, that's.

487
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.440
You know, and that's basically no thank you in Arabic.

488
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.720
So if you say it in Arabic to them, they'll listen.

489
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:20.480
Otherwise they'll just keep coming out.

490
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.359
So when you come when you come back from there.

491
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.920
When I came back from there, there was definitely like

492
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.240
three or four day major adjustment back to the States,

493
00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.359
and it was a good adjustment. It was cool, But

494
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.880
I don't want to lose the feeling, you know that I.

495
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.359
Had a real time I leave I come back, it's

496
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:39.119
like I got like Costa Rica a lot too love.

497
00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.200
I love it too. I love the people there. The

498
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.279
people are just absolutely they have.

499
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.200
No fucking military do. They abolished it in nineteen forty six.

500
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:50.640
Presidents said by decree after World War two, like we

501
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.440
are never having constitutions.

502
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:56.680
And they gave free healthcare and free education instead of military. Dude,

503
00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.960
the concept. I'll tell you I have a story about

504
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.839
that because so I had two heart attack surfing. One

505
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.680
was in Hawaii, and the idiots in the American healthcare

506
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.640
system that charged me four hundred thousand dollars almost killed

507
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.839
me because they caused a second heart attack. The second

508
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.599
heart attack happened in Costa Rica, as after I was

509
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:22.359
cleared of a year of you know, supposedly getting better.

510
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.599
But the difference I found okay, So it was absolutely amazing.

511
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.599
The cardiologist that's going to do the procedure on me

512
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.720
in Costa Rica, he's at my bedside calling the insurance

513
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.079
company like no receptionist doing that. He did it himself,

514
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.240
and they said to him. He said to him, he

515
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.039
needs this procedure or he's gonna die. And the insurance

516
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:50.359
company's answered to him typical, Well, it'll take forty eight

517
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:53.079
to seventy two hours of process of claim, and it's

518
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.839
a weekend, so it'll probably be longer. He goes, you

519
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:58.400
don't understanding. He'll be dead by then. They didn't give

520
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:02.400
two shits. He hangs up the phone. And what they

521
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:07.319
did next shows humanity. Okay, because they put me in

522
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:12.079
their social security system so I could get free healthcare.

523
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.359
I'm like another country, a third world country, puts me

524
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.640
who's a gringo in their healthcare system so I could

525
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:25.599
get traded for free in my life save. But my

526
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.720
own country is like, fuck you, why.

527
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.799
Is it that? And that's a fucking amazing story, and

528
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.359
thank you for sharing that with me. I really it

529
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.480
moves me to hear those kinds of things. It's the

530
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.079
humanity and all those things that we were just talking about.

531
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.599
Why can't we all across political and social lines and

532
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:47.039
gender and socioeconomic lines agree that that's who we want

533
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.759
to be? Like, why can't that be? Because I think

534
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.000
if you tell that story one hundred people, one hundred

535
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:54.200
people are at least gonna have some reaction of like, wow,

536
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.640
that's fucking amazing, dude, that sounds incredible you know, maybe

537
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:58.079
half of those people like, well, but I'm not in

538
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.720
favorite of socialized medicine. We can have that conversation, but

539
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.680
why not let's examine like what our priorities are. It's like,

540
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.759
why a country like Costa Rica and all of the

541
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.759
other thirty two quote unquote industrialized nations who have the

542
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.039
world have it and we don't. You tell me, dude,

543
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:14.359
I mean it's straight up breeding.

544
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.440
Well Bali. You mentioned Bali in the Begain. I was

545
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.440
in Bali for like three months and I got sick

546
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.640
and I was walking by on one of the nooses

547
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.279
and I saw this like little you know, walk in clinic,

548
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.680
looked it up. I had good reviews. I walk in.

549
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.359
I shit you not. I was in there for fifteen minutes.

550
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.519
The doctor not only treated me, diagnosed me, gave me

551
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.079
the medicine. I didn't have to go anywhere else. By

552
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.960
the next day, I was perfect. And it cost me

553
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.799
a total with the medications and with the doctor's visit,

554
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:58.319
forty two dollars. Like that would be like a five

555
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.319
hundred dollars bill at least here in Florida. I can

556
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:01.680
tell you.

557
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:06.720
That you hear things like that, and it does make

558
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.799
you want to make another record and call it healthcare travesty,

559
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.519
like like just you know, with a with a fucking

560
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.400
little red cross and like a stethoscope. You're giving me ideas, dude,

561
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:20.119
I mean.

562
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.039
How can a poor country do that but a rich

563
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:23.920
country can't?

564
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.119
That is the problem because of the priorities, Because the

565
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.400
priorities that people are calling the shots, and the way

566
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.720
this system is set up to be so capitalistically dominated

567
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.240
and so haves and have nots, you know, intentionally like

568
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.839
that's the way we operate, when that is literally the

569
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.720
way this system is set up and supposed to be

570
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.119
those kinds of things, like the altruism goes away eventually.

571
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.920
And I'm not advocating for full socialism or communism, but

572
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.240
are a lot of socialist programs and a lot of

573
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.200
prioritization of whatever money is coming in the federal government.

574
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.720
How you think too, because the powers that be they

575
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.920
brainwash us the old district in the book Divine Conquer,

576
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.880
But it's mindset too because another example, when I was

577
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.960
in Denmark, I'm sitting around with a bunch of people,

578
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:13.680
different religions, different political viewpoints, different origins. Nobody was arguing.

579
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.240
We were all talking and nobody had an argument, and

580
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.000
the Danish girl we were talking about the socialized medicine

581
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:27.799
there and her we were talking about social socialism there period.

582
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.279
And I'm not for socialism in our country, but I

583
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.839
like you, there should be certain things to take care of,

584
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:42.759
like basic human needs. But their viewpoint, this girl was like, listen, yeah,

585
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.599
we pay a lot more taxes, but we think it's

586
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.680
worth it because our viewpoint is why should I have

587
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.480
two cars and my neighbor have none. I'd rather share

588
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.000
with my country people instead of having everything.

589
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.000
Look at those happiness indexes. Finland, I think is always

590
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.319
the happiest country.

591
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.200
In the world. You know, Denmark too, Yeah, Denmark too.

592
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.359
Yeah, And there are nine million people in Denmark or whatever.

593
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:09.279
It's a small you know, relatively speaking. Sweden's maybe nine million,

594
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.960
It's six million something like that. It's like the size Arizona,

595
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.279
you know, in terms of like right population is. So

596
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.559
there are obviously differences, but you know, worth the main

597
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.480
our export is war. Our export is you know, we

598
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.200
have financial and economic control and tech and so all

599
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.079
of the things that our federal government spends money on.

600
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.640
When you have those experiences like that, that can happen

601
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.920
to anybody except the upper you know, five percent of

602
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.759
the population, Like you could die from medical disaster. None

603
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.039
of those other countries has that ever happened. Does someone

604
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.720
get bankrupt, you know, have a financial disaster because of

605
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.599
medicine just here? And those priorities to me are really weird,

606
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.640
especially when you go to Costa Rica and wait a second, like,

607
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:48.039
wait a.

608
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.599
Second, you know, wait a second, right, you know, And

609
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:58.279
again it's mindset's how people think, and I think, like you,

610
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.680
we're one race, the human race. Period.

611
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.839
I'm trying, dude, to do this in my music. And

612
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.279
maybe you know, now that we've had a conversation, you

613
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.039
go back and you give me twenty six minutes of

614
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:10.200
your time and put the headphones in a zone out

615
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.079
for a little bit. Because all the music that we're

616
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.359
creating and all the words that we're creating are positive

617
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.599
in their message in terms of like, I'm a believer,

618
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.720
I have hope, and I believe that art is able

619
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.559
to open people's eyes and make them a little bit

620
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:23.960
more open and a little bit more gentle.

621
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.440
And so now you know.

622
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.960
Not to fucking says shamelessly sself from Mote, but dude,

623
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.000
this is really like the sentiments and the things that

624
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.599
we're talking about as the core of what I believe.

625
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.440
And it's clearly like at this age, the core of

626
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:34.720
the art that I'm trying to make. And I'm like,

627
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.000
I hope people can latch onto that and like take

628
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.440
something away from that. Just think a little bit more deeply.

629
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.640
Question the things that you've always been told, you know,

630
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:43.799
question the veracity of the things that you've been passed

631
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.759
down from generations. You know, like you said, your grandpa

632
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.799
never left his block, like go to Morocco, you know,

633
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:49.599
change your life.

634
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.599
It always will, no doubt. And you know what, music

635
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.279
is the biggest unifier if you ask me, and it's

636
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.359
also the best therapy there is.

637
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:05.839
Motorcycles close close second, but yeah, you know there's something

638
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.880
about that on the open road, just through the hills,

639
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.279
you know, yeah, but yes.

640
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:16.200
But yeah. So I'm really appreciative of somebody like you

641
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:20.519
giving that art to us because it is something that

642
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.640
is beneficial in so many ways. And you know a

643
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.279
lot of people out there now are saying, oh, musicians,

644
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.319
they shouldn't have a voice, you know, No, they should

645
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.680
have a voice more than anybody, because that it is

646
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:37.759
one of the greatest voices. If you don't like what

647
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.400
they have to say, you listen to somebody else what

648
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.759
they have you know, their music, but.

649
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:44.559
Universal language, dude.

650
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.839
Everybody knows it, no doubt. So tell everybody how they

651
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.839
reach out to you guys on socials, on the web,

652
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.240
how they get the new album, how they check out

653
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:53.480
everything about you guys.

654
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.240
Okay, we'll talk about business, dude.

655
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:58.000
Fine.

656
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.039
So we are Little King too UNEs pretty much everywhere.

657
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.039
And when I say tunes, it's like songs like t

658
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.599
U n E s The Little King Tunes on all

659
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.440
the social media. Little King Tunes dot Com is our website.

660
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.680
It's everywhere as of midnight tonight, you know, Friday, Friday,

661
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.759
September twenty sixth, we released a couple singles called Catch

662
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.319
and Release. I was back in August and then don

663
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.240
Villa a few weeks ago, which is actually about my home,

664
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.920
my home, neighborhood, your good stories in all of those songs,

665
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:25.759
you know, fishing with my dad in the first one,

666
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.720
you know, doing the Yellowstone River, things like that. So

667
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.079
everything comes out tonight, and man, I just like, I

668
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.079
hope people give us twenty six minutes of their time.

669
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.839
You know, it's a really proud of this one, you know,

670
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.279
and I'm hope, I'm hopeful that we can at least

671
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.039
go to Europe and play some shows and not take

672
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.640
a bath, please contribute to the Europe to our fun,

673
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.039
you know, and then from there about I hope, I

674
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.240
just hope people dig it always for sure. I appreciate

675
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.640
you and your time and your.

676
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.400
Interests, and I think they will dig it, and they

677
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.079
definitely need to spend the time to take a sonic

678
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:56.440
journey of yours past.

679
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.960
There you go, brother, that's it. Thank you so much, appreciate.

680
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.720
Thank you, Thank you for being on the Adventures of

681
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.119
pipe Man.

682
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:08.359
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on

683
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.759
w for c u I Radio.