PipemanRadio Interviews Quebec's BACKSTABBER About Harvesting The Weak
Join us as we crank up the volume with Chris from the explosive metal band Backstabber, discussing their bone-crushing new EP, "Patterns of Domination." Get an insider look at the dark literary inspirations fueling their music, especially the track...
Join us as we crank up the volume with Chris from the explosive metal band Backstabber, discussing their bone-crushing new EP, "Patterns of Domination." Get an insider look at the dark literary inspirations fueling their music, especially the track "Harvesting the Weak," which echoes the intimidator archetype from "The Celestine Prophecy." Our chat reveals the surprising depth of metal music, debunking myths of one-dimensional negativity and showcasing its rich narrative layers drawn from history and literature. Laugh along as we talk about the ironic humor laced within the band's work, emphasizing the distinction between on-stage persona and off-stage reality, and why being an actual intimidator or narcissist is not on the setlist.
Listen in as Chris and I riff on the diverse soundscape of death metal and the significance of bands evolving while remaining true to their roots, much like the legendary Slayer. We go beyond the riffs to discuss connecting with fans across social media, from the convenience of Facebook to the emerging platforms like TikTok. Discover the deeper messages behind songs like "Long Time" and "Crawling Through Your Bones," and enjoy personal stories that paint a vivid picture of the unique Canadian metal scene. Whether you're a die-hard metal aficionado or a curious newcomer, this conversation is a backstage pass to the cultural experiences that shape the music and the electrifying rush of live performances.
EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS
(0:00:05) - New Metal Band and Inspirations Metal band Backstabber's EP "Patterns of Domination" draws inspiration from "The Celestine Prophecy" and tackles complex themes with sarcasm and humor.
(0:11:49) - Exploring Music and Evolving Metal Death metal EP "Patterns of Domination" explores varying styles, Quebecois interpretation, evolution while staying true, and live performance experiences.
(0:20:39) - Social Media and Cultural Experiences Nature's impact on social media connections, Canadian metal scene quirks, and personal anecdotes on sports affiliations.
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Hi, you have unto censure.
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It's time for the Adventures of pipe
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West pomp Beach is number one internet
radio station. Here's your host,
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the pipe Man, oator Poor.
This is the pipe Man here on the
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Adventure of pipe Man W four c
Y Radio. And uh Man, there's
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some new music group Upper talk about
that is right up my alley. Like
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I love all metal. No,
let's not say all because there's something I
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don't, but thrash metal and death
metal and black metal are basically my origins
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and my go to and this band
is brutal and that is like the best
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compliment I could give them. So
I'd like to welcome to the show.
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Chris from Backstabber. How are you
hello, I'm fine. Thanks. That's
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our Holy Trinity, eh, I
know you got that to me. That
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is the Holy Trinity. Forget all
the other bullcrap holy Trinity. That's the
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Holy Trinity. In fact, yeah, in fact, back when it was
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kind of it was a lot easier
to even distinguish in some respects. But
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it was also because there was so
little of it that they always did kind
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of no pun intended mosh together,
you know, because like possessed, Like
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I went to see them when they
first started, and there was no way
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else like them, you know.
And then it's kind of funny because I
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was orient to Venom back in the
day that was quote unquote the only black
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metal band, and now you talk
to black metal bands now and they don't
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even consider Venom like black metal.
So but this this new music, Oh
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my god, harvesting the Week.
First of all, that title alone is
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badass. And then when I listened
to it, watched a video, it
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lives up to that that name for
sure. So tell us a little bit
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about that song. We'll start there, and then we'll talk about the new
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EP coming out as well. Excellent. But it's hard to talk about just
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one song because this is a short
epeed. It's four songs, it's a
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concept album. It's something that's been
in my mind for a couple of years
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now. It's the book that I
read called The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield.
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Read that book a long time ago. Not metal at all. It's
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like a fiction novel about some dude
having revelations about life and blah blah blah.
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But there's a part of that book
where the author talks about control dramas.
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These are behaviors that you can use
to drain people's attention and energy.
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And that was metal as fuck,
yes, So like, look there's something,
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there's something to do with that.
There's something to do about that.
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And so there are four patterns.
The first one is intimidation, and then
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you've got the poor me's, the
people that are always complaining. Then you've
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got interrogation, and then you've got
difference. And together they form like the
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official circle. Each father answers to
the to the answers to the previous one
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and the next one. And then
you go back full circle when you when
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you're in different how you how you
bring someone back intimidation? And so here
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comes Harvesting the Week, which is
the first song. This is about the
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intimidator. So basically it's as grouvil
as it gets. See you know what
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I love about all of that.
First of all, I'm a total metal
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head, but I'm also a motivational
speaker, So like when you start talking
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about all that stuff, that's right
up my alley too. And it also
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dispels a lot of myths about metal
for people that are not into metal,
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like they think metal is all about
oh death and destruction and satan and then
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blah blah blah blah blah, whereas
a lot of the really good metal is
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about things from from book and from
history and from real issues. Like you
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take my favorite all time ever band
who is now reuniting for three festivals on
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on a tour that I do,
Like I do a festival tour where I
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do radio coverage, and they're gonna
be at three of them that I do,
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and it's the only three Slayer okay. Now, Slayer always thought,
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oh, they're just about devil worshiper, Like, first of all, Tom
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is a born again Christian And we
used to laugh about it back in the
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day that people thought that. But
Jeff wrote a lot about World War two
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because he was like a World War
two buff okay, And but people that
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didn't understand Slayer or no Slayer would
have never thought about that, you know.
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And you know, you take bands
like Iron Maiden, like almost every
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Iron Maiden album is based on a
book. And there's so many of especially
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in the death metal arena, there's
so many bands are writing about such intelligent
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you know, literature, and people
just think, oh, they're just screaming.
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Yeah, but as much as I
agree with you, stereole dives are
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important. Yes, that's that's how
you uh, that's how you think the
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posers out. Well, you know
it's funny about that. Okay, So
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I forget which way it was.
Last year at went of Festivals, I
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was hanging out with the bands and
we were talking about like how people think
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us metal heads are so scary and
all that, and he was going,
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yeah, let's keep them thinking that, you know, for the exact same
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reason you're saying, keep the posers
out. We don't need to turn it
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into pop. Okay. That's why
it's such an interesting topic as the one
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I picked for for Patterns of Domination. I kind of twisted sarcastically, so
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it's a handy guide on how to
to be a narcissistic asshole. So he
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know it hasn't been at all.
I mean, being asshole, that's not
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all. But but it's sarcastic.
Don't be in that soul. Of course,
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I love it. I love it, especially since you know I'm from
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New York and New Jersey, so
sarcasm is my first language. So yeah,
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so of course we're in the in
the video of Harvesting the week we're
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promoting intimidation, We're like, I
start your dominance, but but in fact
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of course be kind there you go, So tell us let's start first with
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is there some moment in time in
your life where this just hit you,
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where this is what I want to
do and this is like my passion.
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It is a collection of moments.
As much as it was the Christmas party
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back in the day where my cousins
Pascal and Martin they were playing rust and
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pass on the guitar, and I
was like, as much as it is
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back in high school when I played
trumpet in the school band. Back then,
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our teacher was he wrote three songs
for us to play. There were
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basic songs, they were exercises turned
into songs, but there were songs nonetheless.
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So when we played them live as
an orchestra, we knew we were
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the only one playing that. So
so that gave me the spark to create,
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I guess, and then the guitar
for my cousins. The family brought
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me into metal as well. I've
got some uncles that brought me tapes.
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If it wasn't for if it wasn't
for any of them, I wouldn't be
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where I am now. I'm pretty
sure I see. I love that because
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there are a whole series of events
that land you where you are. And
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you know, it's even funny you're
talking about playing the trumpet. I was
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in percussion in the school band and
orchestra, and I actually at one point
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thought of I want to try the
trumpet out. But what's funny is my
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favorite part percussion to play was the
timpani. And then and then you take
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a band like slip Knot and I'll
go see him. I'll be like,
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holy fuck, I should have kept
playing timpani. I could have been in
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slip Knot. Ah Man. I
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and it was about like, how
back in the day a drummer, you
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need the drummer for each and every
part of the drum, right back in
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the days of marching bands and stuff. Yeap, it took a long It
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took quite some time before Ludley came
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trumpet and I did percussions as well. Yeah, and you know what,
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when I first started playing drums,
I had to play on this stupid practice
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pad and I hated it. I
hate All I wanted was a drum set,
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and I didn't get a drum set. There you go until after the
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practice a couple practice pads, after
playing each separate drums separately, like you're
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talking about, you know, And
then I got a drum set. You
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know. It wasn't like my kids. I boy, I'm a drum set
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from the minute they could ask for
one. Drums are so cool. It's
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a fun instrumentally. And listen,
I give so much credit to drummers because
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the coordination that you need, like
I didn't have it, to be honest,
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I was better at playing the individual
drums you put the drum set then
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all together and doing everything at once. Oh my god, I have such
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I'm in awe of great drummers.
And then like when Lombardo started doing the
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double bass, I'm like, holy
shit, I can't even hit a single
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bass and the drum and the symbols
at the same time. And this dude's
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work in the high hat and the
double bass with only two feet, Like,
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how the hell has that happen?
You know, it's just and now
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there's people that are just so even
far advanced from that, like it just
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amazes me. And that's why I
talk about what I did before is like
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a lot of death metal is really
really amazing musicianship. And that's the part
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where you know the stereotype's not wrong, but the stereotype does keep the posers
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out. So Patterns of Domination tell
us about some of the the other songs
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on the EP and how they may
be the same or different than Harvesting the
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week they are different. I love
it. The four patterns are different,
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so it had to be different.
So each young, each young has a
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different vibe. We've tried to explore, uh, to explore a couple of
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niche of some jars of the of
the great genre that is death metal.
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So on a harvesting that obviously that's
like old school death metal a bit.
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There's a little trashy side. But
we have long Sad, which is the
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second one. The titles in French, but basically dirty tons. So that's
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how we talk about people who always
complain and have always shitty stuff to say.
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We can long sad, Young Sad, the long Sad, that's how
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we which there's a lot of them
nowadays. Oh my god, I even
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thought COVID would cure the bit of
music festivals and concerts, like because we
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got it taken away and they're still
betching now, like Slayers reuniting, and
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there's all this bullshit people complaining,
like who gives a crap, You're getting
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to see him one more time,
man, Like why are you complaining?
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I just don't like what you like. Like what you like. Leave the
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rest of them. Yeah, Lisa
Holt, Gary's wife, had a perfect
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solution for those people. Just don't
go. That's a simple you know.
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But I love that you have four
different vibes because that's an hard thing to
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me. That's og okay. Back
in the day, you know the band,
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none of the bands really sounded the
same, and they would create different
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songs in different sounds, whereas I
find a lot of new bands out nowadays,
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it's almost like they follow this algebraic
equations, like they plug this formula
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in and it just that everything sounds
like that. And you know, if
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you went to a gig that was
like Possessed, Dark Angel, Slayer,
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Metallica, Exodus, it was like
you were in multiple different genres, you
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would think, because they were all
unique to themselves. Yeah, But as
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much as I like both, I
like bands that are always evolving. But
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I kind of like some bands that
put on the same album over and over
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again. Well, you do have
to be true to who you are,
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you know, like Formulae didn't work
on it. I mean that is as
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as cool as a bend that is
trying to discover themselves. I mean exactly
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what you know, when you evolved, you say, as you be true
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to yourself. Yeah, when you
evolve as a band, it just means
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getting better, not changing, you
know. Like so you take a band
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like Slayer, They're really not any
different than they were that when I saw
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them the first gig they ever had. They just got be better musicians and
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you know, made it more more
polished and more professional for who they were,
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you know, posed to some bands
that like they go in a whole
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different direction and it's like, but
that's not who you are. I mean,
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if that's who you want to be
to begin with, that's a different
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story. But you know, like
you said, the word poser that was
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big back in the day, and
it's like I played drums and I played
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guitar and the I sang thrash metal
and during that whole eighties scene, all
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I saw was all these bands selling
out in the record companies telling them what
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to do. I was like,
fuck this, and I stopped playing music
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because of it, you know,
because I think you should just be true
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to yourself, like I was saying, and then people will notice. Yeah,
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but be true to yourself can be
as much as staying true to your
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whole abbots or being always out discovering
your stuff. So yeah, be who
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you are, whatever, whoever you
are. That's right exactly. So so
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I guess well, I think also
being a musician, isn't it about exploring
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what you can do? Like I
said, I've said this a few times
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before, Like when I started playing
guitar, you know, I was like
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just making all these weird sounds,
trying to see what the guitar could do.
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And my dad would say, you
should give that up. You suck,
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And I probably did suck, But
I was trying to find out what
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the guitar could do, you know, and what sounds I can make,
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and maybe some sounds I would make, I'd be like, oh yeah,
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I won't do that again. But
then there's there's others where you're like,
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oh wow, that was pretty cool. So what about live shows? What
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what can people expect at a backstabber
live show, they can expect a good
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time, that's for sure. I
mean, I'm a smiley guy, so
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I mean I'm all is having a
good time, always having fun. And
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the way we write our music,
we always think about it live. How
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will it come out live? So
even when writing a song, writing a
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bridge or a main riff or a
verse, I mean it's it's always is
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it gonna be a head bangabull riff? Is it gonna be Is it gonna
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have the drive that we want?
So? So yeah, basically our music
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is built to be played live.
I love that you said the smiley thing
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because there's another stereotype that all metal
head type, a resting bitch face.
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Well, I mean yeah, I
have to have that mean, evil look.
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I used to play. I used
to play in another band before where
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I used to do these resting ditch
faces, and I remember, was it
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hurt me at the end of the
shows? I was like, it's not
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me right right, hey listen,
But it would hurt because motivational speaker me
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teaches people that it takes sixty four
muscles to frown and only twelve to smile,
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So why are you frown and it's
too much work exactly, so only
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we love playing shows. And every
song's not every song, but most songs
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they have these small parts that are
made expressly to build up the crowd and
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either make people headbang, trash or
just raise their horns anything. But we're
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always interacting with the crowd. So
here's a good question. I've seen it,
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but not as a musician. But
what's it like being them on stage,
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being a musician and looking down at
a wall of death? Like the
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perspective from that point of view,
it is. I like to go to
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both the extreme, but it is
as amazing as it is terrifying. You
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don't want to have anybody got getting
hurt. Sure you want to, so
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that means at some point you want
to people. You want people to have
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fun, you know, though you
want them to mush and you want them
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to have all the bets. But
yeah, but it is amazing to see
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when you see with the moment where
people everybody's ready and they are calling,
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You're like, it gives me goose
bumps. Like when we're just about to
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do it, they're just like ready
and little pumped and stuff like, holy
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shit, you're talking about all of
that I can't help myself. But thinking
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about the band called Neurexis. They're
ban from Quebec. They came up with
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all of that back in early two
thousands and I remember they had one and
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Randa ruin Miranda, which is our
hometown. It's like four hundred people in
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the wall of that, everybody.
It's amazing. It's on YouTube. You
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can find it if you want.
But yeah, that Ruin Wow. So
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here, here's a good one for
you. My daughter's bought Mitzvah. I
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moshed with the rabbi at the bot
Mitzvah. It's like the meme with the
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Michuga somewhere. All the rabbis are
like totally man, is that awesome?
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Or what? Man? That was
like the highlight of it, you know,
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oh man? So how do people
reach out to you? Guys?
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Connect on socials? Check out your
music, merch all that good stuff.
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We're boomers. We're still on Facebook. Well, we're all miss and her
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more on Facebook, but we're still
there in Stagram a bit. We're also
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on YouTube and then camp for anything
related to merch or anything. But if
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you want to have a chat with
us, we're on Facebook and we're all
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easily reachable and well ready to have
a chat with any of you. You
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know, It's funny. There's parts
I hate about Facebook. But what I
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do love about Facebook is some of
the things you can do on there that
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you can't do on the others,
like uploading a shitload of picks, you
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know, without being having to be
like a major amount of work. It's
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just like I go to a festival, I upload all my picks and I
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share that Facebook album with the promoter. It makes it real easy, you
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know. And I don't know.
I just think I think people interact more
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on Facebook, but you know,
maybe that's just me. But I'm on
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all of them, including TikTok,
which you know, you're not a lot
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of time on Reddit because I really
enjoy read it. It's text base.
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I'm a reader, so yeah,
I really enjoy read it. But have
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you like Cora too? I sometimes
sometimes I read Cora, but I'm not
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on there. Yeah I do,
I do uh read it. I do
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Cora. I do them all.
I am, I got them all.
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But I still kind of stick to
Facebook even though people. Even though people
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piss me off on Facebook, I
still stick to it. I don't have
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a lot of conversation through comments on
Facebook anymore. But I do have a
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lot of conversations through Messenger, Yeah
exactly. So any final words you want
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to leave our listeners with that we
haven't covered yet, h that they need
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to know, Well, we did
not go through the whole album. We
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we just got uh, we we
just got the diverted. But if you
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want to know more, feel free
to come by, honestly, honestly,
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have a tell me more, tell
me more now. I think they want
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to hear more now. Well,
we were talking about Alongside, which is
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pretty much about the people complaining,
so it's about social media and the musically,
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it's more into the core side of
metal, the one that's generated the
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hate comments through social media. And
then we have a Crawling through your Bones,
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which is about the interrogator, uh
as much as it is about the
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integrator the interrogator. When I wrote
the song, I just once shot at
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it and then I looked back at
it and I was like, it's it's
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almost like I'm talking about rape.
I mean, it's the same kind of
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feeling that you get your intimacy violated
when someone someone is just like asking questions
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just to get a hand up of
you. It's basically the same feeling I
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mean, so yeah, crawling through
your Bones, which is a little bit
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more into a blackened de metal.
And then the last one, Snitches Get
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Stitches, which is about the in
different people, and so it's it's really
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fuck up. I guess it's our
most technical song. Okay, So I
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wouldn't say I wouldn't dare to say
it's tech that because I don't consider myself
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as good as a guitar player,
but definitely it has it has a hint
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of it, and I love the
name. I got a friend of mine
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when I told her about that name
I was thinking about it. She was
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like, is that like a rap
song or something? Oh, that's so
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funny. I could see that too. I could see somebody thinking, man,
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that's so funny. But it was
about indifference. But as much as
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it is in different Snitches Get Stitches, it's a mojo about the gang culture
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where keep it to yourself out.
Yeah, So the less you say,
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the less you risk. Sometimes that's
actually like a real real good words to
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live by in every area of life, to be honest. Just like,
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just like we don't want these pop
people to know that metal heads are actually
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nice people. Oh Man, wells
are teachers. Most singers in Quebec are
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teachers. Really that our English or
a lot of metal singers are teachers.
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Know that. That's pretty cool.
On Facebook, I really enjoyed to read
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that bat from Ugary. He's it
a history teacher. It's a history teacher.
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Is you always have really fun stuff
on Facebook. Honestly, he's a
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huge poster, so it's usually enjoyable
to read. So I'm in I'm I'm
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in Costa Rica right now and a
lot of your people are here, like
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a lot of Canadians coming out,
Yeah, a lot, But I did
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like Montreal is one of my favorite
cities. I remember back in the day
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I went to Montreal and I was
I was a huge Devils fan when Jacques
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Lemaire was the coach and in New
Jersey where I was from, you know,
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you had the rivalry between the Devils, the Rangers, the Islanders and
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the Flyers, and like very few
Jersey people were into the Devils because you
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know, when you're like my age, you first were a Rangers fan or
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an Islanders fan, or a Flyers
fan, and then became a Devils fan
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because Devils didn't exist like when I
was a little kid, there was no
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Devils in New Jersey, so I
was a Rangers fan. But then once
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I became a Devil's fan, it
was like you would yell Ranger suck,
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and you know, he said,
like the rivalry. So it was funny
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because I remember so clearly I was. I was at this bar in Montreal.
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I was wearing a Devil's ski jacket, was in the winter, and
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everybody was so nice to me because
I was wearing a Devil's jacket, and
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I'm like, this is strange.
I have to leave my home state,
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home country to go somewhere else to
be appreciated for my home team, because
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they all loved Jacques Lamier, you
know. And wouldn't that have been the
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same had you had any Boston rooms. Yeah, no, that would not
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have been the same. As a
matter of fact, I have a story
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about him where our main studio is. Jeremy Jacob's, the owner of the
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Bruins, lives there and he started
this whole political thing there because him and
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the other richest guy in town have
this whole rivalry and like they made the
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whole town paid for and he's an
asshole. So I was really not a
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Bruins fan before, and now I'm
like super not a Bruins fan. But
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it's funny what you said about being
a Devil's fan, because back in the
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day there were no Devils here in
Quebec. It's the opposite. We have
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kids who are Nordics fans. Oh
really, RDIs they don't exist since I
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know, right thought? Yeah,
I mean they were sold to Colorado.
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They became the Avalanches, I know. And you know what's funny. Do
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you know where the Devils came from. They were originally from Colorado. Oh
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yeah, they're the Colorado team that
moved. Oh yeah, yeah, so
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we got the Colorado team. You
guys gave Colorado their team. Oh man,
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that's funny, you know. And
I have to say, I've been
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to multiple areas of your country.
I like your area the best. It's
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like, just to me, it's
called the beautiful province that oh and then
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you know, like to me,
I remember when I went to Montreal,
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I was like, this is what
New York was like twenty years ago me
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and twenty years ago. Then when
I was I was thinking about twenty years
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ago because it's like like what amazing
say and what blew my mind was the
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underground malls, those twelve malls underground. I actually went through every one of
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them, And what a cool way
to get around the city when it's freezing
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above above ground. So yeah,
the city of Montreal is amazing. Yeah,
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exactly. And I just found the
people, the city, the out,
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all the areas surround funding. And
you know, I live part of
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the year in Florida and party year
out of the United States. And the
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part I live in Florida, the
person my landlord who I rent from is
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from Quebec some like, surrounded by
Canadians. I like them. I like
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them better than my people now anyway, because my people are becoming a bunch
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of assholes. Now, we've got
a lot of Quebecers in Florida. They're
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called snowbirds. Yeah. So when
you're coming over here flies out. So
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yeah, in Hollywood, Florida,
near Fort Laurideale, it's all French Canadians.
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Like everybody there is a French Canadian. So there it is. Well
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and as much as we're buying walls, older generations are more unilingual French and
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so it probably speaks French a lot
in there. Eh. Yeah, absolutely,
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I'm guess I'm guessing a good proportion
of them does not speak English at
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all, probably probably not. Well, that's like in Miami, you know,
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Spanish is the primary language. English
is second. I took my daughter
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someplace in Miami and she was trying
to order and they didn't understand her.
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I'm like, yeah, no,
they don't understand English. Here here,
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I'll order for you. You feel
just like Franco phones in Montreal sometimes really
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well, those that only speak French. Yes, yeah, that makes sense.
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That makes sense to expect being certain
English. And you know, it's
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funny because then you have, like
I also cover Hellfest and so every a
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lot of people there. They don't
like to speak English at all. But
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it's funny that the French in France
too, that they sound different than the
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French French in Montreal, Quebec.
And then I'm taking this like immersion Spanish
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class here so I can be even
better. And there's a girl in there
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that she was speaking French, and
it was funny because I was like,
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so, are you from Canada or
are you from France? And she goes,
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I'm from Belgium. And I had
forgot about that one because we had
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a studio in Belgium for a while
and I forgot. Oh yeah, they
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speak French too, Yeah, yeah, and they have that, you know,
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the numbers and French. How fucked
up they are. Belgium doesn't have
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that really. Yeah, it's called
the vice Zimmo numerical. It's based off
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of twenty. That's where you got
like four twenties for the number eighty.
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Belgium, it's called octant which is
octo from Octo eight. So interesting.
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Yeah, it's so wild to find
go around the world. So yeah,
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it's so wild to go around the
world and find how things are done differently,
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even like that's one of the reasons
I'm taking a class here is because
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how they speak Spanish and Costa Rica
is different than how they speak in Spain
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or Mexico or Puerto Rico. And
I over the weekend I took a trip
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down to Nicaragua and they speak it
totally different too, and they and they
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all have different words for things.
Funny story, So we had this these
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Argentinians doing a show on our station
because where our station is located is like
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a equestrian mecca. Uh and so
there's a lot of South Americans there that
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are in the equestrian community. And
one day they're in the studio and I
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misheard a word that they said,
and I thought they said mota, which
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I don't know if you know what
that means, but that means pot,
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okay, And then they had this
stuff that looked just like pot, and
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I'm like, you can't do that
in here, and this was like years
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ago when it was totally illegal,
and he's like, he's like. They
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started laughing. They're like, no, it's not Malta. It's made which
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is this tea that Argentinians drink like
all day every day. It's an urban
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it looks like it's pot, and
of course Malta, mate, you know,
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you can mishear that it was.
It was so funny. But even
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now that it's been legalized in a
couple of states in the US and Canada,
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it's been legalized for a couple of
years, but it's still not as
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socially acceptable as speer. Let's say, yeah, in the States, it
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depends on where you go, because
like in California, it's kind of ridiculous.
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It's almost too extreme. It's like
people are stoned all day every day,
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and it smells like pot everywhere you
go. You know, even like
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I went to a Rainbow on the
Sunset Strip not that long ago, people
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are just seeing at tables smoking pot
and I'm like, that's weird. Whereas
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now you go to Vegas, you
can buy it, but it's illegal to
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smoke it in public. So if
you try to smoke it going home,
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I mean they do it's Vegas,
but if you try to do it going
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home, you're getting busted. Florida, it's still just medicinal, so there
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is no recreation and you have to
get like a prescription, you know,
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which is really easy to get,
Like you could go to these doctors they
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have and you could say, I
stub my toe and they'll give you a
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prescription, and so you can ask
how much you need per day, right,
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yeah, And the shit they give
for the medical that's like the strongest
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crap there is, you know.
And so it's kind of an interesting that
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it's probably the same in your country
and in our country, that there's no
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unification. Like I don't know,
I just think it should be either legal
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or not legal, and it shouldn't
be different everywhere you go. Personally,
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you know, maybe a little bit
of a variation, but it's not like
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alcohol is legal at some and not
legal in others and only for medical and
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others, you know. But that's
what happens when you have a big country.
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Sometimes you have to respect that every
states. I mean that in Canada
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we call that a separation of powers, right. Provinces have certain powers.
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They manage education, they manage healthcare, and the federal manages like immigration and
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foreign policy stuff like that. But
sometimes they have some money for some stuff
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or they want to push some stuff, and then provinces go, hey,
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it's it's our things. So yeah, and it's the same. It's same
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in the states. Like to me, I always think of the United States
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as every state is its own country
pretty much. And if everyone that fell
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under the healthcare umbrella, so every
partner said, hey, it's our things,
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right, so you can have like
a federal exactly. Well, I
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think everybody needs to get your EP. Patterns of Domination badass and it has
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substance to it. And definitely,
I mean, at the very least,
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get off this interview and go check
out the video for Harvesting the Week and
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you'll definitely want the EP for sure. Yeah, it's out this Friday,
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March fifteen, So yeah, make
sure you go atch that video. Amazing
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the producers they are. They do
a really great job. Everything they do
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is amazing. I love it and
it was. It was a great job.
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So you guys rock I love it. I love your music. And
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thanks for being on the Adventures of
pipe Man. Thank you very much,
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and thank you everyone for watching this. Thank you for listening to the Adventures
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