PipemanRadio Interviews RIOT V About Mean Streets

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I gotta tell the story about this
though, because I was really excited

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because there's like a couple band,
a couple albums are like my favorite albums

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out there, and bands are my
favorite bands I like listen to all the

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time. And so the publicist sends
me over information about this new album and

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I look at him like, oh
my god, I will definitely interview them,

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because you know, you get all
kinds of requests all the time,

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and it's like some of them you
know, some of them you don't.

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But this band and this artist we
have here absolutely freaking incredible. I've been

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listening to them since the eighties,
and so I'd like to welcome to the

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show Todd Michael Hall from Riot five. How are you, hey man?

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Thank you very much, bike Man. I appreciate it. It's just a

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real pleasure to be with you here
today. Oh, pleasure to have you

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and forty old school fans. Okay, I know it's interesting, like you

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came up with the five part because
is it like the first time there's been

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like five people in the band.
No, No, actually it's considered the

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fifth chapter of the band because oh, okay, there you go. Yep,

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there's been a lot of different there's
been five different singers that have recorded

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with Riot. So you had the
initial guy guys Beranza, and then they

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transitioned after the third album into RHTT
Forrester, and then they transitioned into kind

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of more of a poor power metal
style, and they brought on Tony Moore

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for the thunder Steel album and Privilege
of Power, and then after that there

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was Mike DeMeo for quite a few
albums, and then they did have a

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thunder Steel reunion, so they put
out an album in twenty eleven with Tony

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Moore and all the original Thundersteel guys, and then Mark Reality passed away about

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a year after that in twenty twelve, and that's when they and that's when

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we then when they I mean I
wasn't technically in the band yet. I

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was kind of in kind of in
the process of getting in the band as

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they were forming the you know,
you know, kind of regrouping, and

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that's when, and out of respect
for Mark reality, Donnie and Mike decided

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to add the V, which a
lot of people will say Riot V,

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but it's really Riot five is what
we call. And that's when they decide,

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I respect him, just to kind
of signify a new chapter for the

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band. But really, realistically,
people know this is riot. When we're

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out and people are chanting their name
or whatever at a show, it's usually

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just right, yeah, right,
you know, right and right yet five,

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you know, so that's so cool. And you know, one thing

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I will say too is so I'm
listening to new music. You got the

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new album dropping on the twelfth,
mean streets. And it's always tough when

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you you know, when you listen
to bands for a long time, whether

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they had change ups or not,
especially if you're an old school OG fan

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to kind of like like the stuff
that's thirty years later, you know.

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But I gotta tell you, I
mean, this music you have now is

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absolutely amazing. It's like, I
don't know, it's like old school and

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new school all put into one with
a great flavor to it, thank you

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very much. I mean that's definitely, you know, definitely something that we

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were going for. I mean,
you know, we really have two principal

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writers of music on the album.
That's Donnie the bass player, and then

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Mike the guitar player, and I
tend to write a lot of lyrics,

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and we all work together on the
vocal melodies. And you know, Donnie

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has actually met Mark Reality way back
in the early eighties and then you know,

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back then they were just friends.
They would jam together when Mark was

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visiting Texas, and that's how they
met. And then you know, later

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on, Donnie ended up getting in
the band, and thunder Steel was the

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first album that he was on and
he was a principal writer on that.

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And so because of that, we
kind of considered because Thundersteel is really that

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transition to what I would call power
metal, bringing in that side of it,

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even though Riot's always been pretty diverse
obviously, and and you know,

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so Donnie definitely has that in spades. But Donnie grew up as a big

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fan of Riots, so he loves
all from the first album on. He

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said, it used to be on
the radio and he was a kid,

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you know, younger kid in San
Antonio, and so you know, like

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when he first met Mark, he
was like meeting one of his heroes,

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you know, and so yeah,
so definitely, you know, don you

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know, and then Mike's obviously been
in the band since eighty nine, so

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he's got a ton of history and
experience with with the band and with with

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Mark reality and everything. And I
think if you look at the history Riot,

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it's pretty you know, even when
you've got an album like Privilege of

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Power that has tons of heavy songs
on it, like on your Knees and

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black Leather and glittering Steel, you
still have a song like Marianne, which

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is more like a pop hit kind
of things. So there's definitely some diversity

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there, and that's what we wanted
to have, kind of just some diversity.

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And certainly when you're in a what
I would call a legacy band like

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Riot, you want to try and
have some winks to the past here and

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there. And like, you know, the title of the album is Mean

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Streets, and Donnie wrote a song
called Johnny's Back, and so pretty much

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every album, you know, Donnie
wants to have a Johnny type saga song,

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and so like Mean Streets is more
of the continuation of that Johnny Saga

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on this new album. So nice, Hey Sids, Okay, you're talking

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about power metal. I have a
trivia question for you. Oh boy,

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what thrash metal band was originally considered
power metal? Because there was no such

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thing as thrash metal yet? Hmmm, I don't like exciter or something like

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that. That'd be my gift.
Well close, So I'll tell you a

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story to answer it. I went
to this band's first show ever in LA

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and this dude gets off the stage
after a show. I think I was

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like fifteen years old. He starts
talking to me and then he gives me

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his business card and it said Metallica
power metal. Oh Dave Mustain. Wow

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right, And it's like I think
about and like, why were they power

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metal? It didn't sound power metal, but you know, it's like it's

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almost like power metal was sometimes a
genre that was given the bands that you

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didn't know what genre to put them
in. Of metal, Yeah, And

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it's so hard. I mean,
there's so many darned different names for metal.

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I think. For me, when
I think of power metal, in

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my mind, power metal is it
can be fast and heavy, for sure,

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but it usually is melodic and has
kind of soaring so that that to

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me is kind of the definition of
so I would think of like say your

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Maiden or do O or Queen Drike
at times, you know, stuff like

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that. Yeah, there's no way
that like hit the lights of power metal.

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Yeah, definitely metal, but you
know, not the soaring vocals at

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least not so much exactly. So
tell us a little bit about this new

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album. You know, what's the
creativity behind it? And you know,

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I have another question, because I
have the album cover behind me, maybe

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you could tell people the story about
why you have the animal on the album

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cover. Well, I mean,
so I have to tell you through hearsay,

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but I do know. I mean
I was I was about eight years

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old when the first album came out
in nineteen seventy seven, and I do

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remember way back then that there was
a lot of talk about baby seals getting

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clubbed and killed for their fur,
and people were up in arms and upset

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about it happening and all that.
And so if you look at the very

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first album that was released in seventy
seven, Rock City, there was an

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art the artist that had made the
cover. I have to believe that was

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what was on his mind, because
if you look at the cover, it

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is a guy with a baby seal
head holding an act. It's like a

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dead body behind him in a city
in flames behind him. And so my

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you know, my interpretation is that
that's basically the baby seal getting back at

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man. And when that happened,
I think it was so I don't know

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back then, you know, I
think it was so rased. So when

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they came up with the next album, Narita, you know, they they

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had a jack, they had a
sumer wrestler with a you know, with

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a seal head. And then when
they came out with the third album,

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Fired down Under, it was just
a close up of a sealed guy with

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a seal head and fire behind him. So, you know, they kept

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sticking with it, and and actually
they they did have albums where they didn't

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but I mean, really, uh, you know, I think Born in

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America had it on there and Restless
Breed he was half seal, and you

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know, so it's just been around
for so long, and in some ways

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some people have teased kind of ride
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without those you know, those terrible
album covers, you know, and

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whatnot, have you and maybe they've
been more famous if the album covers were

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so crappy and and I think,
but but for us, we've kind of

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come first circle just kind of like
we totally embrace it. So when we

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came out with Unleash the Fire,
because they didn't have the seal on well

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on the one on Immortal Soul.
But when we came out with it,

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Donnie wanted to bring it back,
but he thought, maybe bring him in

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the future and make him somewhat of
a cyborg or whatever, and you know.

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And then last the last album,
Armor of Light, that's where we

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introduced the notion of a gang and
so there's multiples you know, of them,

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and then we continued the gang.
This time it's a biker gang of

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seals. So I love it.
You know why I asked that because it's

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very interesting, Like I have all
those old albums still to this day,

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and it wasn't until looking at this
album and reading something that I ever put

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together that was what was always on
the albums. It didn't even register in

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my mind that those albums had the
same kind of character, which is really

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weird. You know. I remember
the album covers in my head, but

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I never thought of it that way
until this one. I'm like, holy

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crap, Like, how did I
not notice that it's funny? Right?

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So, and this album covers Badass
too, by the way, I love

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see I miss that nowadays of like
really enjoying the artwork of an album cover,

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you know, and this one definitely
does it for me. But let's

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talk about the music, you know, so tell us a little bit about

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what prompted this album, you know, what kind of creativity went into it,

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and what you really want to accomplish
with the music, you know.

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I think you know, some bands, when they sit back, they you

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know, they maybe try to go
for an overall concept with it. You

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know. We tend to be more
like we just we like to write great

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songs, and so the creative process
is pretty interactive. I mean, Donnie's

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a principal songwriter, so is Mike. Donnie usually sends a pretty developed song

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and then a demo, and a
lot of times he'll send it to me

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and I can listen and try to
write lyrics and vocal melodies. Michael do

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the same thing. Sometimes Donnie will
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But you know, we interact.
We'll even have arguments now and then you

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know, like there's the song high
Noon that was like the first single or

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released. Actually I called it first
Light, and the chorus was like show

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down at First Night, you know, you know whatever. That was my

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chorus, and I was like,
I like my chorus better than this high

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Noon chorus. And so like we
went back to Mike. I was like,

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Mike, come on, man,
I got him and Donnie the I'm

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like, Mike, come on,
listen to him both. Man, isn't

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mine's better, isn't it? He's
like, No, I like Donnie's.

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You know, So Donnie's ended up
winning out, you know. So every

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now and then you have those little
contests and I'm still convinced my chorus is

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better, but I like high Noon
too. But you know, so there

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is that interactive process. And then
there's other times where you look at a

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song like lean Into It, which
is kind of what I would call it

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has a real good, kind of
old school throwback vibe. Sounds like something

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off of Rock City to me,
and but Donnie sent me the music and

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it was just really sang to me, and I just I sent it back

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to him with lyrics and vocal melodies
and it was like boom, there we

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go. You know. So sometimes
they just go really fast and then other

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ones, you know, other ones
they're just a labor of love. And

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so for us, you know,
you know, it just it just comes

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down the songs. We just want
a great song. You know, we're

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we're kind of beyond the notion of
well, we want to impress somebody with

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high screams or fast solos or whatever. It's like, we just want to

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write a great song. That's all. Well, you know what, I

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think that's something that's missing nowadays,
you know, because especially in the metal

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genre. As a lifelong metal head, I find myself sometimes saying things now

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that people said to me that it
wasn't true back then. But it's like,

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huh, every metal band sounds exactly
the same. And I used to

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say, no, they didn't,
But now I see certain bands it's almost

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like they use this algebraic equation to
make a metal song, and the musicianship

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is kind of not necessary, is
there, Whereas back in the day it

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was about musicianship. So I love
that bands like you guys are like bringing

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that back, because it is coming
back where it's important to be a good

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musician and to have a good song, not just here, let's just put

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this out like we're in a puppy
mill. Yeah, yeah, thank you,

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thank you. I appreciate that.
You know, it is really tough.

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There's that fine balance, you know. To some extent, it's like,

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you know, your fans. You're
kind of in a box with your

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fans, right like they kind of
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feel like they know what to expect
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is with with a long history,
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think, you know, our fans
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think for us, we just we
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have a little bit of everything for
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and all that. We like to
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have dot Donnie says. We have
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and down, which is like and
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which is done, you know or
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bit of that, you know,
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bit more of that, just kind
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just you know, kind of heavy
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mix it up and kind of you
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don't limit yourself. Well I can
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only write that. It was like, you know, but there's always some

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extra songs that you don't end up
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you know, maybe that's not good
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do that. I always say that's
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not it's not like thinking about it, it's just what comes to you.

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dad would be like, you should
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what I was really doing is I
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not do something that everybody else was
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long legacy of albums, and it's
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of the band but doesn't sound like
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successful, but it's definitely hard to
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like my hat's off to you,
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albums out or you've been a musician
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man, how hard is it to
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gonna like because they want you to
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as an evolved musician that you know, has been learning the trade, you

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want to do new things and not
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life. Yeah, yeah, for
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really blessed to be in the band
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you know, there's been different singers, and my voice just fits the pocket

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of certainly Guy Speranza and Tony Moore
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the most songs from, and then
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that's it just fits my vocal pocket
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that regard, I feel blessed.
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the shows I've gotten to play,
but also just the fact that we have

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people that, like when we went
to South America, even back in twenty

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sixteen, there were people singing,
you know, take Me Back, which

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is a song I wrote on Unleash
the Fire, you know, I wrote

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the lyrics to that, and it's
pretty overwhelming, like because because some bands,

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like the legacy bands, they can
only play the old stuff no one

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even, you know, they won't
even put out in New Albus because nobody

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cares to hear it or something.
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fans that expect new songs and want
to hear the new songs, and they

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sing a long with the new songs
too, you know. And that's where

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I feel really blessed, because it's
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thing forward. We're not just out
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I love that. It's almost like
the attitude of your fans are the old

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school, underground type of fans,
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it doesn't matter what you put out
as long as it's good, you know,

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and they don't need you to be
just this and please play this song

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that you've played fifty million times,
because that's the only one I want to

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hear. You know, yeah,
it's you know, it's amazing. There's

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just we do have some really incredible
fans. I mean I've been I remember

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playing shows. I mean like on
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three four at least occasions. I've
had grown men come up to me and

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tell me that they were crying as
we played blood Streets, which is a

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song of Thundersteal, because it brought
back all these emotions of when they were

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a kid, and they just thought
that we sounded so true to the original

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that they just loved it. And
like, that's for me. I mean

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as a vocalist. You know,
vocalists have different theories of how they want

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to do stuff. Like for me, when I do the older stuff,

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my goal is to try to have
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I can. I don't change the
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try to do it exactly because to
me, that's what you know, you

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know, like, and I'm not
saying that that's the only way to do

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it. I mean some people prefer
to change stuff up. I went to

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see Counting Crows and Concert and Adam
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didn't even know what songs he was
playing at the time, the words,

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you know, but that's not my
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because you can be your own on your

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new songs, but then you give
that nostalgic vibe at the same time with

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the old songs, So I love
it. Tell everybody how they can connect

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to you guys on socials, on
the web, how they can get the

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new album when it drops. They
definitely have to check out the video that's

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out for Feel of Fire, because
that's badass, not just the music,

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but the video itself itself as cool
as hell. And every way that they

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can check everything out, I'm sure
they can pre order or pre save.

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I know there's multiple colors of vinyl
and all that cool stuff. Yeah.

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on the social social media, so Facebook,

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you'll find us some under Riot,
and you'll find us on Instagram.

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I don't even sure what that one
is, but if you look up right,

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I'm sure you'll find us. You
know our web pages. Are you

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ready to riot dot com? So
if you go there, you're gonna find

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links to pre order the album.
It's also you know, you'll see it

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on Amazon and all over. It's
we're on Atomic Fire of the record label,

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so they've got their own site.
So yeah, there's sites all over

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the place, right, you'll connect
with it. And we have a you

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know, you know, just a
lot of a lot of great stuff.

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The Psyche is Psyche. We have
another. I think Mean Streets will be

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the next video that we're going to
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we'll even have a lyric video for
a Love beyond the Grave I think when

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the album drops and so it comes
out April twelfth, and so we're just

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hoping everybody picks it up and enjoys
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I love that you shot the new
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going to say that we definitely did. Yeah, we and we got some

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scenes of us walking around, uh
walking around. I think the second one

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for was in New York, but
Feel the Fire was definitely in Jersey and

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a little studio in Jersey. And
I think the gal in it, I

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correct me if I'm wrong. I
think she was Miss Jersey. Oh really,

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yeah, it's cool. I'm forgetting
her name, but she was real

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nice gal obviously, But Donnie sent
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and I'm like, well, who's
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And I'm like really, so wow, that's cool. You have a final

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words you want to leave our listeners
with that we haven't covered that maybe they

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need to know. Yeah, I
just want to thank you for, you

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know, first of all doing the
interview, and just thank all the people

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that support us. I mean,
you know, this is like a passion

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project for us. You know,
it's something that obviously I have a full

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time job like most everyone, this
is something that we do for fun.

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And it's been great for us because
they get to play shows all over the

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world and stuff. But it's we
go because the people are there and they

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want us to come, and they
want us to play shows, and they

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want us to put up more music. And just appreciate the support that people

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give us, and thank you and
we'll keep keep keep giving you if you

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want it, we'll keep coming.
Oh we want more for sure. Thanks

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for giving us more music all these
years later, and thanks for being on

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the Adventures of pipe Man. All
right, man, well, thank you

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for having me my pleasure. Hey, this is Todd Michael Hall from Riot

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five and you are listening to the
Pipe Main on W four c Y Radio.

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