PipemanRadio Interviews We Are Sovereign

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Here's your host, the White Man, John. This is the pipe

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Man here on the Adventures pipe Man
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very excited about our next guest because, uh, we're going across the pond

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on a phoner. But I was
just over across the pond, as you

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guys know, in covering a couple
festivals. So I'm glad to be talking

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to this band because they rock.
So let's welcome to the show. Laura

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from We Are Sovereign. How are
you? Hey? I'm really good man.

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How are you? Oh? Doing
amazing? Like I'm always gonna say

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that though, even when the world's
even when the world kind of sucks.

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Oh man. So one of the
things I do love I want to talk

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about right off the bat about your
music is I talk about all the time

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how music is the greatest therapy for
the artist and for the listener, and

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I think you guys are the perfect
example of that and your motto. I

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absolutely love that because not only am
I radio person, podcast person, but

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I'm also a motivational speaker person.
So I love positive stuff and I love

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helping others because listen, just about
everybody on the face of the earth is

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in pain for some reason or another, and how they cope with that pain

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makes the difference, and music makes
the difference. I absolutely love your motto

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and it goes like this. We
speak for those who feel giving up.

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We speak for those who feel like
they have lost the way, We speak

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for those who fear the unknown.
We are sovereign, and I think that

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speaks for everybody. Man. You
hit on all points there. That's what

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we tried to do. We tried
to get something together that everyone can relate

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to. And we we wanted to
feel like a family, do you know

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what I mean? Like we really
wanted to have something you can read and

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get to know the band in seconds
and what we're about exactly. And you

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know, we are a family to
me and music We're all family. I

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see that. See that's one of
the cool things. Like I go on

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tour and I do all the music
festivals and the one common ally at least

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in the metal and the punk and
the rock festivals. I can't say so

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much for like country and others because
it's not necessarily the same. But for

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us, it's like there are no
outsiders. We're all the outsiders on the

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inside, you know, and right
you know, and like nobody. It's

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the safe place. Like I can
go to something like Bloodstock or download and

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I'm in my safe place with Like
sometimes I'll call my kids, I'll be

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like, yeah, I'm hanging out
with fifty hundred thousand of my closest friends.

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Because it is like a big family. We're all like a big family

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and we're the rest of the world
is kind of fighting with each other.

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We're joining together no matter who we
are, and we just have this you

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know, philosophy of you do you, and we're just one big family.

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That's what I love that. I
feel like it's a massive community in like

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no matter what gig you go to, no matter what festival you go to,

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you'll, you know, you'll end
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random person that you've just met and
you feel like you've known your life.

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It happens every time. I love
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I find the people that I meet
at festivals that maybe at best I

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see them once a year. They're
the ones that are more there for me

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than the people I see every day. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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It's wild, right, you know
that right there quite my attention.

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Even if your music sucked, which
it doesn't. Your music is your music

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is badass. But even if it
sucked, what say that I said for

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the listeners? I didn't pay you
to say that, by the way,

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I know, right, But even
if it did, you know, this

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would be enough for me because like, and you add your own journey.

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We all have journeys, and you
add your own journey to come to this

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music. And I love because there's
different types of people out there. There

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are some people that go through their
journey and they don't share, you know.

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But it's like, even when I
get up on stage and do a

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motivational speech, there's things I say
to that audience that I that my closest

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people in my life don't even know
is in my head, you know.

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And I think that's what music is
too. As an artist, you can

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express all these things that can help
other people, but you may not express

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those things to your closest mates in
everyday life. But through a song,

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it's kind of different. You're it's
cathartic exactly. Yeah, a spot on.

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I completely agree with that. I
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feel like even probably my parents listening
to the album, they're probably like whoa.

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I mean, like, you know
why I'm laughing because my dad's up

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with us? Aymore. But I
remember the first motivational It was a cassette

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tape We're going back now, cassette
tape that I made that I was like

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selling that people were buying to,
you know, listen to my motivational stuff.

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He listened to it and the only
thing he focused on is something I

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said about him and me being homeless
at fifteen, and he took it offensively

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and he got pissed off, told
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all this stuff. And so that's
why I laughed when you said even your

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parents, because sometimes your parents are
the people you don't want to hear this

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stuff because they either don't want to
admit certain things or or they don't agree

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with you or whatever, and that
you're not they're not getting out of it

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what other people are. No,
I get you. I feel as well,

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like your parents they know you on
a different level, don't they yes,

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it's like a different kind of like
you said, relationship. Yeah,

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well it's true even with my kids, Okay, like the person they know

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and the person at like festivals,
that those are two different people that they

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know. Because sometimes too, when
you're a parent, you're not being one

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hundred percent you with your kid because
you're busy being a parent, and you

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know, maybe there's some things they
don't need to know, or may maybe

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there's some things you believe in that
maybe you won't express to them because,

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let's say it, you may hurt
their feelings, you know, because a

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lot of times we as kids and
we're different generations, we have different beliefs

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than our parents. And sometimes the
parents don't like that. But sometimes they

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accept it, sometimes they don't.
The times they accept it though, it's

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not like you can really talk about
it, they just accept it, and

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they're not the ones you go to
for sure. Yeah, you know,

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and I see it with my kids
too. There's like certain things that if

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they came to me with it's kind
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me with it. For exactly what
you were saying, Yeah, so I

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want think, well, thanks,
so I want to know why it seems

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a lot of the UK bands really
just lai their hearts into line and writing

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music. Like one of my favorite
bands and my favorite lyricist of all time

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is Ali from Bring Me Absolutely Agree. He is one of my biggest inspirations.

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He absolutely smashes everything. Oh and
it just blows my mind his lyrics.

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I just relate to them so much, and he's so honest, like

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you know, and like some of
those lyrics he wrote while he was in

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rehab, so it was like definitely
one hundred percent therapy for him, but

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it's totally therapy for me and the
you know, millions of others that he

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helps out there, and I find
a lot of UK bands are like that.

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Like it's very It's very interesting too
because I was actually married to a

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brit And it's funny. On one
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more reserved, supposedly, or that's
the image that people think, especially here

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in America, and like you don't
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then on the other hand, artists
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it's the exact opposite. You're just
putting it all out there in the songs.

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Yeah, definitely, Yeah, that
image that people think we have not

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true. I'm an absolutely teddy bear
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very very emotional person, and I
think it's really important to be raw as

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well. Like you know, I
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and you know, we just like, yeah, it's I got me always

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like I said, But he's one
of my big inspirations and I've always looked

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up to him and everything that he
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writes them, doesn't he like he
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like yeah, he's so real that, you know. When I interviewed

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Jordan from Bring Me, he said
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you just never know on stage what
Ali might say, Like it's they

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just have resolved themselves that he's gonna
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That comes just straight from him and
you just never know what he's going to

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say. And I think that's so
important because that's why people can relate.

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And I think, yeah, by
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you're on a parallel level there,
you know, And I think it's because

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of your journey that led you to
make music like today, Like you know,

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if you think about the beginning of
your musical journey, would you say

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it's drastically different than it is now? Absolutely one hundred percent. I feel

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like the way it all started was
I saw a drum kit in the music

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room at secondary school and I was
like, I want to play that,

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and then I taught myself out to
play, and then I gradually went into

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vocals. I heard, you know, tears don't fall by bullet bullet from

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my Valentine. Yeah, at the
beginning of that, I heard that,

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and I was like, I want
to scream for a band. I want

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to I want to do it.
I want to get off from behind the

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kit and I just want to jump
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you know, looking back to how
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know, do covers and cover bands. And then we used to go around

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the you know, around the UK. None of us like could drive.

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We used to. I used to
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I used to crazy, I'd have
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know, stands coming out underneath the
straps holding a snare drum. We used

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to get trains everywhere. We didn't
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We used to just you know,
I remember one gig I did.

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I went to the hospital because I'd
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like, don't use it for two
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worse. I literally walked out the
hospital and went into the gig in Preston.

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I was like, you know,
looking back on it all, like

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it's crazy how much it's all changed. Obviously, Like now we have more

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of a professional perspective on it.
You know, we look at it as

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a business. Like when you're young, you're kind of reckless and you just

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do everything and you know, you
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just kind of just do it.
And I think that's what's changed the most

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is the perspective of everything and we
take it, you know, we look

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at it as a business, and
yeah, that makes so much sense.

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And the other thing I think of, as you were saying that, is

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when you're a young artist, like
a teenager, so you're just surviving on

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pure ang and you don't really grow
as an artist till later when you start

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realizing. You know, you're talking
about being a professional and training as a

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business, but even to go a
step further, as like perfecting your craft

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like you're a teenager. You don't
care if you sound like shit stage that

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I remember I used to just drink
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place, like you know, years
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a different, different view of it
all. You care what you sound like.

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You want to be the absolute best. You know, you want to

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look after yourself. And i'd say
that's that's a different thing as well.

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Yeah, you know you like you
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know, I started out when I
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month, and the amount of years
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in the time to learn from my
mistakes, what works, what doesn't,

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you know, even my technique with
screaming, like I've changed that over the

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years as well, like the way
I do it because I used to,

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I'll be honest, Like when I
first started doing that, I used to

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lose my voice so he could taste
blood. I thought, if I'm going

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to do this seriously, I need
to get a technique that I can,

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you know, work with. And
obviously now got to the point at this

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age where I warm up, I
take it seriously. I can scream I

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don't lose my voice. So,
like you said, perfecting your craft.

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Absolutely, It's so funny you should
say that because it is all about technique,

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because I'm actually I was just talking
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vocal lessons for people that want to
scream and growl and stuff like that,

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and we were talking. I mean, I sang thrash metal when I was

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a teenager, and I would have
never I don't even I would sit there

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and think, I don't know how
anybody could do this for long term because

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I wasn't doing it right. So, you know, and now like once

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in a while on my show,
I may sing like one song and I'm

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halfway through in my throats already like
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you know. And so to your
point, once you know some techniques,

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you know, it's not as hard
and it's not as hard on your

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vocal cords and on your body like
otherwise, how you going to last forever?

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Especially you start doing two hour gigs, you know, how are you

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going to sing like that without technique
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of the night. Yeah, definitely, And I'm glad I've learned that now,

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because I wouldn't have a career if
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dread every show. I'm excited to
do shows now, and I don't you

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know, I don't walk off stage
signing like this right people, because I

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you know, I just kept figured
about what am I doing wrong? You

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know? And like I said,
I wasn't warming, I wasn't drinking enough

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water. I didn't care, just
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Yeah, exactly, got okay.
So it's an instrument, isn't it,

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you know? One hundred and and
it's probably the most delicate instrument of

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all. You know, you can't
really replace it. It's not like a

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you bust your guitar, you're going
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that's what I hate as well,
Like when you know, if you're ill

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or anything like that, you got
cold. I always say to people,

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if I could go out and buy
a voice just right, it's not you

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know, it's just a it's one
of them you can't control. Really,

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you can't do a degree. But
if you're ill, that's it. Oh

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hundred and going back to what you
said about starting on the drums, what

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I instantly thought of, and I
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It's Dave Grohl because when he drummed
for Nirvana. First of all,

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he doesn't even think he's a good
drummer, okay. And second of all,

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he didn't really have input in the
band. You know, it was

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all Kurt, you know, and
he talks about this and doesn't talk about

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it in negative way. You know, they were just asking him, you

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know, how you make the jump
and how do you become this great guitar

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player, front man and stuff.
And it's not because he didn't have a

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lot to say. He just wasn't
able to say it, so to speak,

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you know, So like going to
the front. All these things are

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built up inside you, they come
out and that makes you, to me

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a much better artist. Because what
is music it's emotion. So if you

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can't express these emotions because they're stifled, you are going to be limited as

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an artist. No, absolutely,
I agree with that. I feel like,

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you know, when I was in
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so many concepts in my head and
so many things. But I know in

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a band everyone can have their input
and stuff. But when you're younger,

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it's usually you know, in bands
it's usually the vocalist who writes the lyrics

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and majority of the time, so
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had a lot to say, but
I couldn't. Yeah, that's why.

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That's one of the Obviously I have
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my journey and what I went through, But I feel like one of the

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reasons as well is I just had
so much to say in express and I

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wanted to start the concepts and build
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so that I could, you know, get it all out, Like I

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had all the ideas before I met
all the members, like the you know,

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the concept of the album, for
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exactly spot on what you said,
Like, I just had so much to

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say. Yeah, and you know, even if somebody changes the words,

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it's not what you were looking to
express. And that Dave said something about

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days like there were a few songs
that Kurt really really liked that Dave wrote,

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but yeah, he said, you
know, he was definitely going to

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change some of the lyrics, and
like if you change the lyrics, maybe

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it's a better song, but it's
not the song you wanted to put out

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there. Yeah, Yeah, that. That's the thing, like when you

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know when you've you've written the lyrics, like me and Ash wrote the lyrics

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together, but we've both been through
numerous things the same, so you know,

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when we're you know, for example, loss, you know, we've

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we've all lost somebody in our lives, and you know, forming those lyrics,

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we both feel the emotion for it. Like, so yeah, it's

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it's that's what it's hard, isn't
it. Like you said, if you've

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got a song and you want your
own way of doing it in your own

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lyrics, and it gets past to
somebody else and they change it, it's

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not the same. Outcome doesn't feel
the same. Yeah, no, I

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get what you mean on that.
So I feel the emotion. Yeah,

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exactly, And especially when you're an
artist like yourself that you know, unlike

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somebody that's writing like bubblegum lyrics,
but you're writing from deep down. Yeah,

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you know, it's kind of hard. It's just like so a few

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years back, he's not with us
anymore, but my head engineer at my

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studio, he was also a musician, and so I wrote this song one

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day, like several years back,
and I like I write books, so

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I wrote a song like a book, and I brought it to him and

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he's like, what is this?
It's a book and he's like we and

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we start like collabing and he's like
making it into a song and he's like,

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can we get rid of this and
everything? Every time he said that,

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I'm like, no, it's important, but you know we had to

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get rid of certainly, like you
can keep everything. But it's like,

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to me, every single line was
important, Like, no, we can't

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shorten this. This is everything I
want to say, you know. So

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it's like chump to one I know. Right, So that must be hard

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to for like somebody like you.
You have so much to say, but

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really it's gotta be saved for other
things because it can't all go into one

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song. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I've still got so much to say,

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believe me, right, So I
feel like that. I feel like I

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need about fifty albums to express everything
I've got to say. There you go

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see. And so the latest album
I love the name of it too,

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Step out your comfort Zone. Okay. So I talk about that all the

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time in motivational stuff because it's only
really way you're gonna get what you want

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out of life. And you're gonna
heal exactly. Yeah, as long as

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you're in that comfort zone, you
will not heal. Yeah, exactly.

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A lot of people, as you
as you probably talk about the use security

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as a blanket, and I feel
it's something about to teach myself like I

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never I never used to be able
to do it. I used to think,

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oh, but I'm safe here,
I'm safe here, and I thought,

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but I'm not getting anywhere. I'm
not I'm not being anywhere I want

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to be. So like how I
explain it is you have that bit where

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you start to question you and I
need to I need to act. Then

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you have the middle bit where you
feel uncomfortable acting on it, and you've

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got the end. But I haven't
there that which not a lot of people

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see. They're just stagnant, and
it's you've really it's so uncomfortable as well

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like doing it. And I've done
it several times and like I said,

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I've only ever seen results if I
get uncomfortable. Yeah, And it's so

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important to do. And that's that's
why we called the album that because we

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feel we really feel that we really
want to show people that what can happen

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if you do branch out your comfort
zone. Everything I did with this band

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was out of my comfort zone.
Started it from scratch, did all the

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music like you know, we all
got we all had our input and everything,

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but it might not have you know, not one person might not have

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even listened to our songs. So
it's kind of like a lottery of doing

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it. You don't know where it's
going to go. And that's what it's

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like being in a band. You
know, it's you're literally waking up doing

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a lottery every day. You don't
know where it's going to go. You're

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investing all this time or this money, so you kind of out your comfort

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zone every day because you if you
don't know what's going to be the end

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result. You know, I think
when they put comfort zone in the dictionary,

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a picture of a band should be
there because, like I agree me,

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a picture of you crying right right, like it's the ultimate in Most

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people don't realize this that they think
of artists geting up on stage and doing

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what they do and they think they're
extroverts, and most of them are introverts,

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and it's kind of hard for people
to grasp that concept. But being

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that introvert, gating up on that
stage and bearing your soul to a crowd

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of people, no matter how many
they are, That is definitely not in

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your comfort zone. Absolutely not.
Like I say to people, like I

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turn into someone completely different on stage. I'm like, you know, I

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just just turn into the zone.
Whereas in real life, once you get

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to know me, I'm not very
shy, but I am I'm not loud,

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you know. I mean, I'm
like, like, you know,

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the speaking sense, do you know
what I mean? Like, I'm I

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speak quite calm. I am crazy, though, do you know what I

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mean? Oh, I know exactly
what you mean. I was interviewing.

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I was interviewing somebody aftershock, and
my my media partner after the interview goes,

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wow, I have never imagined him
to be so like low key and

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calm. And and so again there's
the you know what people think because and

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it's you hit the word I say
all the time, whether I'm on the

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radio or I'm on stage, I
go into this zone. Like the minute

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the mic turns on or I step
on stage, it's like I'm in this

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zone and it is a different person
that comes out, but it is you.

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But it's to you that people don't
don't necessarily see you know life,

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don't you right exactly? Yeah,
secret double life. And isn't it funny?

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Because I experienced this a lot.
Isn't it funny when you meet people

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as that stage personality and they're kind
of like, for lack of a better

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way of punting it, they're kind
of let down and they meet the real

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you that's not the stage you,
and it doesn't live up to what they

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have in their head of who you
are. You know. Yeah, you

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have that saying, don't they never
meet your idols? Right exactly? Because

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it is so funny because like I
have this, you know, pipe Man

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is my radio personality, and I've
literally I've literally met women that want to

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go out with pipe Man, but
they don't want to go out with Deep

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because pipe Man's their image. It's
it's kind of a weird social experiment.

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Yeah, well, just that curiosity. Where did you get that name from?

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Pipemer? Okay, So that's funny. A lot of bands ask,

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and they always assume it's something very
different. It's very simple. My last

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name is Piper, and so somebody
just called me pipe Man way back in

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the day one day and it just
stuck, you know, and so like

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a lot of bands always think it's
about something else, you know, and

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I always I always laugh. I
always laugh about it, and you know

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it is it's funny. It doesn't
bother me though, but I get that

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question from artists as much as press
people ask bands how they got their band

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name. I was so curious.
I was I have to have to ask

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him, not see. I love
it though, because it's like almost like

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every time artist says that they're interviewing
me, like the tables are switched.

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What's well, if you saw what
my hair was before a few months ago,

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you would know the answer to that
because I had I had bright blue

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hair. So there there's your answer
to that. You know that's cooler.

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So well, what was cool too, is like so I would go and

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do these festivals and when I'm setting
up interviews, they're like, well,

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how we fund you? Well,
I'm the one with the blue hair and

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in the press tent you can't miss
me. So yeah, and you know

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it is. I actually do like
it when ours turn the tables and they

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start interviewing me, because it is
kind of cool. It's just like,

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Okay, I just did Aftershock and
I was asked to interview The Power Hour,

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which is this TV show that includes
Katie Babbs from Serious ExM Matt Pinfield,

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who's like a legend, and Josh
Bernstein, who's the legend behind the

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scenes. And I was like,
you know, I've interviewed so many people,

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and I'm this is the time I
was nervous because I was interviewing like

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a peer, you know, like
you know, it's kind of weird,

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you know, because it's like,
well, they do what I do,

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so hmm, Like I gotta make
sure I'm really on my best, you

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know, because I know I would
be if the table were turned, I'd

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be looking at the person going hmm, yeah they're really good or yeah no,

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I wouldn't do an interview like that. I respect people that they're interviews.

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It must be it must be hard
because you never know what you're gonna

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get. On the other side,
I guess you never know what you're gonna

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It's true, it's true. But
that's why I do it the way I

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do it, where I'm doing it
like just as a conversation, because then

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it takes a life of its own, you know, and then you really

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find out something about the artists instead
of regurgitating the same shit everybody else is

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asking, you know. And one
of the stories I tell about that that

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sticks in my mind most is Lacy
Stern and when I interviewed her one time,

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and you know, when you're at
festival, they, you know,

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the tour managers, like, you
got a hard ten minutes, and then

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if ten minutes comes and you're not
done, they're like pointing out their watch.

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And I'm pretty good that and I
understand why you do that. But

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one time I'm talking to her and
I asked her about something that nobody asks

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her about, which shocked me,
and the tour manager came over and started

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tapping his watch and she shoot them
away. And then afterwards, after and

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she spoke to me for like a
half an hour, and afterwards she gave

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me this big hug and she's like, thank you nobody. It's like one

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of my biggest passions. And nobody
asked me about it, you know,

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because everybody wants to ask all the
same stupid questions over and over again.

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And basically what it was about was, you know, she was a suicidal

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teenager. Music saved her life and
her and Sonny from Pod and some other

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artists go out and they like,
do these tours to help suicidal teens?

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You know, And to me,
that's a pretty big thing. How are

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pressed people not asking about that?
Like that's that's more important? And then

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you know, the lyrics to a
song that they've asked that question every time,

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like a hundred times, or or
how do you get your band name?

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Or something like that. You know, some of that stuff's just common

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sense, but this is digging that
deep to somebody's pure passion. That's why

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I want to hear like people's stories, you know, besides just the music,

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you know, because those stories are
what led to the music. Yeah.

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I love that. I love why
you like delve into people a little

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bit more, another relaxed approach.
Yeah, because I think people don't understand.

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I even say this to people that
help me at festivals, that are

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working with me. I'm like,
they're just people, you know, like

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and it's like people forget that they're
normal people with normal problems. I don't

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know if normal is the keyword,
because I don't think there is such a

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thing as normal. But you know, I'm not normal, Yeah, neither

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am I so, but you know, like you're just there's a person behind

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the artists. It's not just the
artist. There's a person behind that artist,

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and there's a reason that person is
an artist, and I want to

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find out what that reason is because
that that's the key to why they can

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help people through their art. Absolutely, And when you've been through things yourself,

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your main aim is to go heal
other people. And I know that's

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mine. I mean, I really
want to I've been through come out the

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other side. I don't want to
help other people. When you see something

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in front of you and you see
an example of somebody going through it and

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coming out the other side, gives
you hope, It gives you push,

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you know what I mean, oh, one hundred percent. And that's why

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I gone back to what I said
earlier. When I do motivacial speeches,

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I talk about stories of my life
that like nobody knows about because I'm a

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private person. Oun't really lay it
out there like that, but I lay

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it out on stage because there's somebody
out there that I might change their life

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with that story, you know,
and and help them, you know,

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because a lot of people are going
through stuff and they feel they're all alone

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in the world, and actually they're
most of the people in the world are

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going through the same or similar things. Yeah, even just as simple just

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seeing something or having a conversation with
somebody, or just the simplest of things

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can give you hope, can't They
like a song, just anything, just

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one sentence. I know when I've
been in the darkest places, just having

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one conversation with someone. Sometimes it
can be a stranger that you've just met,

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or a taxi driver and they'll say
one thing and it will give you

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that hope. It will give you, do you know what I mean?

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Ladder of like randomness, and but
it's you know, it's the best,

439
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and it's what keeps you know,
it's what helps us survive. Yes,

440
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exactly. So to go back to
what I said in the beginning, that's

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what makes your band and you cool
as hell. And everybody's got to check

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you guys out. How do they
check out your socials? Connect with you

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on socials, check out your website, your music merch. You got some

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cool merch that they need to buy
because listen, you know, that's the

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only way bands survive today. And
so they're not allowed to listen to my

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show unless they support bands by buying
merch. Very true. Yeah, we're

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everywhere. We've got Facebook search we
are Sovereign. We're on Instagram we are

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Sovereign Official. We've got Twitter,
We're on TikTok. Our main website for

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00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.240
merch is we are Sovereign band dot
bigcartail dot com. Well on all of

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our socials, we've got a link
tree and it's got absolutely everything in there.

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YouTube is a good place because I'd
say we're a very visual band as

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well. Our YouTube is just you
know, we are Sovereign. We've got

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a lot of music videos for tracks
off the album, and I feel like

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that's the way people can really relate
to what we're about and what we're trying

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to trying to say. I love
it. I love it, And you

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know, just like you said,
you could write fifty albums with all you

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have to say, I think if
we I think we could probably be doing

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this for another fifty hours and still
not have any dead air. So it's

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we'll have to do it again sometime. And you know, I'm glad you're

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helping people out there with with your
journey and expressing it in your art.

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And thanks for being on the Adventures
of Pipe Man. No, thank you

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very much. Thanks for having me
and if you are going to come to

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the UK and do any speeches,
because I'd love to come. I haven't

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done any speeches there. I come
there to do download and bloodstock, but

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now maybe I should because you know, the more I talk to bands like

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you, I find that my speeches
might be good there. Like you know,

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previous previous misconceptions that US Americans have
is like, oh, nobody would

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listen to that over there. I
absolutely live for motivational speeches, like I

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love it. I've been on YouTube
and I've actually searched for some and yeah,

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I do. I watch them.
There's a lot of people out there

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that do as well. I love
it. My second wife was was a

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brit and she hated it, like
so ergo, It's like being an artist

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and being and somebody hating your music. You can't really be married to them.

474
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Yeah, yeah, I don't think
it would be with someone who's like,

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yeah, we are soofering a shipmate. I'll be like, work is

476
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.400
it you have to fight your bag? See you later? Yeah, exactly,

477
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exactly so and like you know,
you know, I don't know if

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you notice. I tell this to
a lot of my British friends, but

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sometimes the Brits that come over here
to America. They're the ones that create

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the bad image because they come over
here and they try to like act differently,

481
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.519
you know, because like my ex
she acted like she was hoity toity,

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like royalty and she's really from Newcastle. We call them, yeah,

483
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like and I never knew what that
meant till I start talking to artists eventually

484
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and they're like, oh my God, like, caldn't you tell by the

485
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:21.039
accident, I'm like, no,
she spoke like the proper like queen's language,

486
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queen language. The Americans seem to
think we're really posh be coming off

487
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the plane in the ball gown,
I know, right, crown on hello

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00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:38.800
everyone, right, everyone thinks we
all are all mates with a queen as

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well because the Queen. Yeah,
it's like asking us do we know the

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00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.519
president? Like, I mean,
I don't know that. I want to

491
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.679
know way of the presidents either.
So my mate George is from America,

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you know him? I mean,
I know, right, It's crazy,

493
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:06.320
it's like that exactly. Well,
everybody needs to know you guys, because

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you rock. Thank you and thank
you so much. Hey, my pleasure,

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and we'll do it again. And
you keep rocking and you keep helping

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the world. Yeah, definitely if
we get over to America, we'd love

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to have you come to us or
vice versa. Come to the UK.

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Let me know, and I've come
to your speech all right, definitely one

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hundred and I look forward to it. Yeah, thank you for having me.

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It's been a great interview. I'd
loved it. Thank you. Thank

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you for listening to the adventures of
Patemn. I'm w for CUI Radio.