April 3, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews White Dog About Double Dog Dare

White Dog new album Double Dog Dare recorded over a period of eight days at Stuart Sikes Audio (with engineer Andrew McCalla) in Austin   “The subject matter of these songs is pretty eclectic, to be honest” notes John. “Let’s see… there’s a song about...

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White Dog new album Double Dog Dare recorded over a period of eight days at Stuart Sikes Audio (with engineer Andrew McCalla) in Austin “The subject matter of these songs is pretty eclectic, to be honest” notes John. “Let’s see… there’s a song about a bank heist, and another one about the Vietnam war. Then there’s one about draining an old lake! Glenn’s Tune is about Rex’s late father. Hell, we even did a radio jingle. So yeah we are kinda all over the place ha ha ha!”

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and we're gonna talk about today I
doubled dog. Dare you not to listen?

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So let's welcome to the show,
John for my dog. How are

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you? I'm doing well there for
having me? Are you hey? My

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pleasure man? So yeah, nobody
that's listening what that was a reference to?

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But listen, you got a great
new album coming out. I love

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the name of it. It's just
it caught my attention right away. It's

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a double dog there and it's pretty
cool because when I was listening to it,

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it flashed me back to when I
was a kid in the seventies where

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they actually made good music. Well, goodness, we did our job there

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you go. Man. Yeah,
it's like so there and there is a

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different sound of things, you know, not like I don't like music today.

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I do, but I think musicianship
and like, I don't know,

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you know, we live in a
society that has this short attention span that

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we have to like change the way
songs are written opposed the old days where

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you could just escape all reality in
a song. And that's why I think

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what you guys accomplish, well,
thank you, that means a lot.

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Yeah, I know, we,
uh, we make it a point to

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to kind of reckon back in the
days when yeah, like you said,

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things were, things were a little
bit more I don't know, dreamy,

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I guess, yeah, everything moves
so fast these days, but yeah,

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we we enjoy the old stuff,
and so we kind of stick to that

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and keeps us going, keeps us
happy. So I'm glad that you like

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it nice and you know what else
I like too. Okay, So I

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was reading about this and it was
true after listening to it that you know,

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you have all these different like subject
matters that you sing about, like

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you're not in one specific area.
It's like you're kind of play Yeah,

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I think, especially with this record, we we ended up having a pretty

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eclectic group of songs as far as
uh, you know, topics of conversation

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or stories or whatever. But yeah, we we kind of just you know

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what, we make arrangements before we
before we really get much into the lyrics,

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we'll have an idea of what we
want the song to be about.

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But you know, once we once
we establish kind of the sound of the

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song, then we then we tend
to tend to kind of throw some lyrics

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at it. But yeah, we
it ends up and we love you know,

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we kind of love the process because
it does end up allowing us to

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build it from the ground up.
And yeah, we we ended up with

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one about a bank robbery of some
an old family friend of ours that that

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ended up coming on the news,
which is a true story. We ended

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up with, Yeah, with a
with a pretty eclectic group of songs and

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topics. Like I said, but
yeah, it's fun. That's the point.

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It's making things fun or funny or
cool or interesting or whatever. You

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know. Yeah, I mean listen. I think that's also a nod to

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old school too, because like a
lot of old school bands, they didn't

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write about all the same things.
They just you know, they were experiences

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in life or things that were happening
in the news, or things that were

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happening and didn't have to be one
specific thing. So it's kind of like,

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yeah, for me, it was
like getting my news from music instead

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of the news, because the news
is BS. Go. Yeah, I

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try not to watch SUSS. It's
depressing as hell. Yeah, no doubt.

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We all get along really well too, and you know, like we

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we laugh. We were friends before
anything, and so we're always laughing,

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joking and usually more often than not. That's where the material kind of comes

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from, as far as lyrics and
stuff that matter. And I want to

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know about the one where this came
from the origination about draining an old lake.

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Okay, so yeah, that's an
interesting one. It's it's called Last

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Dance Song. And it actually we
went back into the studio because we finished

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track in what we thought was going
to be the B side of the record,

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and you know, it had had
kind of moved on and sent sent

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most of it all for mixing and
mastering and everything, and we started fiddling

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around and ended up like in the
new the new stuff we were working with

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so much that we thought, man, we gotta we got to try and

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add this on the on the record. And and the story comes from,

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uh, actually I do landscaping and
we do a lot of properties on lakes

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and lake towns and rivers, you
know, like more resort towns and vacation

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towns. So they were getting ready
to drain this lake that had been been

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filled in the nineteen seventies. And
long story short, the River Authority here

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in Texas was having trouble with some
of the damns on the same same same

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area because they were old and they
were failing. So down the road,

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Lake Dunlap failed and mcqueeney was next. They were built in the same year,

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and so they decided that they were
going to drain. You know,

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my brother and I Carl, who's
also in the band, we work out

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there, and so we were watching
all these pretty well to do folks and

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they're in their vmw's sitting sitting by
the lakeside while they were draining it.

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And we saw some people crying and
call thought, man, this is this

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is kind of a kind of like
a I guess it'd be a good subject

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matter for a song. And you
know, so we ended up right and

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then calling it the Last Damn Song, and so naturally it had to be

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the last song on the record.
But yeah, all kind of thank you.

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I mean, that's kind of cool. I almost think people don't get

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that creative any more, like that, you know, like that to me,

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that's creativity. Thank you. Yeah, well, you know, I

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think we kind of surprise ourselves this
time around from you again the subject matter,

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because we it kind of you know, when you when you when you're

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being creative, it's you can kind
of throw paint at the wall, and

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it can and for some people it
can be a bit too vast of h

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a canvas, I guess you could
say. But we're fortunate in the fact

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that we all trust each other,
and we all make each other laugh,

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we all think, you know,
pretty similarly, and so yeah, usually

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when we come up with something,
even if it's you know, a rough,

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rough idea or something that's kind of
vague, we're able to build on

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it together and say, hey man, this would be funny if we we

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said this, what about that?
You know. So it's like we're we're

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blessed to have each other and also
blessed in the fact that our our our

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creative minds are very in tune with
each other. And and that makes it

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you know, to be honest with
you being, and that that makes it

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uh special for us, you know, it wouldn't you know, anybody can

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go play music in a group.
But we've, like I said, we've

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been longtime friends and college friends before
before this all kicked off. And so

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yeah, we we count our lucky
stars for each other and the music that

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we're able to create together. I
think that's so important. I think that's

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like the most important thing. I
like how you said college friends, because

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I think there's a huge difference between
college friends and high school friends. Like

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you're in high school, you form
a band with your high school friends,

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and a lot of times that doesn't
work out too well. I said that.

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Yeah, right, yeah, we
all went down that route right exactly.

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I told my kids, you know, when it came to going to

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college, I'm like, listen,
the place you're going to make your lifelong

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friends is in college, not high
school. I mean, yeah, it's

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so true. You couldn't you couldn't
see. I couldn't agree more with you.

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It's yeah, we we you know, we were all also who grew

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up in different communities. But you
know what brought us together originally was we

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were in the school and music all
of us and and uh yeah, and

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naturally, like we were the only
other kids that was like were wearing bell

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bottoms and that whole thing. So
we were easy to spot each other.

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And you know, it started off
very organically, you know what I mean,

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like kids college for new damn friends
and coming from small towns around and

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yeah, it's like a friendship sparked
into you know, like you know,

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I guess eight years nine, shit, I guess it's been ten years.

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Ten years later, here we are
traveling around the country together making dumb songs.

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Yeah. Man, well it is
so true though, because you know,

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I was just thinking about it when
we were talking about like, so

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when you're in high school, you're
forced to be with the all these people

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that baby aren't on the same path
and life. And then when you go

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to colle pretty much most of the
people going that you meet are there are

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on the same path in life.
Because usually when you go to college,

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you're not hanging out with different people
from different majors. It's usually people that

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are within the same areas that you're
looking at. And I think that's what

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creates long terms. Absolutely, I
agree with you, you know, beyond

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that, I think you know,
the older you get, you start realizing,

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you know, it's okay to hang
out with everybody, but you kind

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of start being more selective with who
you hang out with, and I guess

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kind of find your crowd more so
more or less, I guess, you

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know. But yeah, we definitely
I thrived and after I got out of

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high school. You know, I
grew up in a small town of four

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thousand people in Texas, so it's
a it was even going to you know,

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the university town a couple of hours
away, was like, you know,

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I felt like I was in New
York City, right, which I

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wasn't. It's so funny how works
like that, because like, uh,

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one of my one of my favorite
bands who's friends of mine since the very

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begaining Armored Saint Me Me, Me
and Joey were talking one time a couple

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of years ago, and he was
like, because I lived out in a

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Gora Hills and they lived on in
Pasadena, and one time I had them

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come out like to a Goora.
It was like it was the first time

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we were ever even out of our
zip code. It was like as if

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we were going to another country.
Yeah, I mean absolutely, yeah,

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You're You're a small fish in a
big bond at that point, exactly,

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no doubt. So here's the one
I loved the most though, because only

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because I laughed when I read this
before I even listened to the music.

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But since I'm a radio personality,
I love that we even did a radio

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jingle. Man right on, Yeah, I put that together. We have

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fun doing that. We laughed our
asses off. Yeah it was it was

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it fun. And again started from
stupid jokes. We were I think somebody's

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on Facebook, marketplace or something,
and I was and and again I mow

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grass, but I was showing these
the guys, all these like you know,

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nineteen eighties mowers and still run good, and look how cheap it is.

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And and somebody, I think my
brother Carl, who usually sparks a

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lot of the ideas, He's like, we should do a radio jingle,

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and all of us are like,
set the hell up, like laughing off

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a bit. But yeah, then
I mean it just ended up happening.

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And again, like kudos to the
guys. They and that's why we all

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love playing together. And everything is
because you know, like even if even

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if maybe one person has a doubt, there might be two or three other

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people that are hurt, Like hey, no, I'm dead ass serious,

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we're doing this you know what I
mean. So and then like you know,

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so whether you whether you take it
serious or not, which to me

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it was a joke. And I
came back in there and we're still reluctant

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to do it, but they talked
me into it. But then they start

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playing it for me and the cheesy
organ and shipp and I'm going, I'm

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all right, like you know what
I mean, like, let's do this.

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So it was. It was a
fun one beyond beyond fun. I

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love it because like I go on
tour and I do radio coverage at festivals

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and you wouldn't believe how many bands
I interview that they'll try and impress me

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by doing the radio voice interview and
we just laugh about it. Man.

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I want to say we gave a
couple of people, uh I believe Rex

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and Rex and Rex and Carl both
gave it, gave it a shot to

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do the you know him seeing,
but uh it ended up being Oscar working

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working guy that that really sold us. I got funny story for you on

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that note, Like, Okay,
so I met some woman on an online

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and then we talked on the phone
and she's like, oh, I didn't

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expect you sound like that, and
I'm like, well, what does that

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mean, because it's a my profile
them a radio personality. She goes,

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well, I expected you to sound
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And she goes, can you give
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this is my radio voice. I
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Yeah. Yeah, I don't have
like an alter ego here. That's so

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funny. I guess some people probably
do. But no, you, I

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think you should stick with you right
exactly. No, yeah, And I

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think that's true music too, Like
what you guys are doing. I think

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the best bands are just true to
themselves. They play the music that they

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want to play, a post of
what other people want to play, because

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then you're authentic and it glows the
questions that when it comes to you know,

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I think I speaking for myself,
but I'm I'm sure the only guys.

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But music is probably the most selfish
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know, I do it for me
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I I and I firmly believe that
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someone else who or to to to
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and that's the biggest disservice they could
do themselves. And again that you know,

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maybe I'm what do I know?
I just play rock and roll,

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But yeah, right, I can't
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me happy. I think it's a
discern and disservice to themselves and to the

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people listening, to be honest,
because you can tell, you can tell

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if people are just going through the
motions or making it up, or if

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they're just being them you know.
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that anything we do is gonna come
from the heart, and we're gonna do

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it because we like it. We're
not going to ever be courced in any

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corner or expected to sound a certain
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in a lot of ways, it's
sometimes we we we we if we anything,

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we'll question ourselves as far as you
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with everyone else? But you know, like we're on a pretty pretty heavy

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label. There's a lot of a
lot of heavy bands and involved with what

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you know, our our rise above
family. But we fly our you know,

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seventies rock and rolls if he mustache
flag, you know, as high

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as we can fly it. And
we're not We're not gonna We're not gonna

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change our sound or become something because
it might be easier, or get us

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more fans or make someone else happy, you know, so to speak,

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Yeah, we do it. We
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change. I love it, And
I also love that you're in a band

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with your brother because I have three
brothers and not one of them. Would

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I even want to go to a
concert with much less being a band with

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yeah, well, identical twins.
I don't know if they if there,

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if there's that much information on it, but you can kind of look at

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the band pictures and photos and put
it together. Yeah, I know it's

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uh, he's He and I have
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it's pretty naturally. People that know
us, they're like, of course you're

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a damn band to get everything together, But yeah, no, it's it's

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it has it has way more ups
and downs. I'll say that I love

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I love it, And do you
mess with people too? Like, because

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you're like that question more than anything. I'm sure I alboustand why I ask

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it, but I had to know
you're no, I don't. I don't

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mind to be honest with you,
know, we really, I've been confused.

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I've been confused as another person for
the better part of my life.

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So I don't want to I don't
want to like add to anyone's confusion or

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or mislead anyone, you know,
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think back in the day we did
we did some stuff. We had to

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make a speech that I learned and
Carl didn't learn. So you caught me

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in the hallway after school and got
me to put his shirt on and go

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do a Julius Caesar speech. But
the whole damn school found out and we

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got in trouble. So I think
that was probably enough for me to be

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like, screw this ship. Yeah
right, I'm gonna me, man,

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there you go. I love it. Now, let's tell everybody how they

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can connect to you guys from socials
on the web, and most importantly,

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how they can get the new album
and all that good stuff and merch whatever.

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Absolutely. Yeah, So White Dog
USA on Instagram, I believe it's

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the same for our Facebook. There's
a Facebook link on our Instagram as well.

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We have a link tree that you
can click and kind of see all

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the shows that are going on and
some pre sale tickets. Yeah, we're

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going on tour. I believe we're
leaving the sixteen. We're gonna be going

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out west from Texas and hitting a
couple of spots on the way. We

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have a few California shows set up. We'll have some T shirts. As

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far as buying the record goes,
it's gonna be out April fifth right now,

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free sale is up on Rise Above
Records dot com. You can also

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find that in a link on our
Instagram bio and yeah, I believe there

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they may they may be only still
doing pre sale for the Diehard Edition,

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which is a I guess it's a
little bit more extensive package. But yeah,

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it's it's gonna be out April fifth. We've worked really hard on it

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and we're proud of it, so
helping hoping people enjoy it. You can

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also we have a new music video
out on YouTube for the Holy or for

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the track Holy Smokes, which is
also on the new record. Yeah,

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I think that's that. That kind
of covers it. If you want a

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T shirt, you can always hit
us up on our Instagram or our email

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and we can try and work something
out, or you can come to a

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show. But I think that pretty
much covers it nice well. Thanks a

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lot for giving us such great music, and thanks for being on the Adventures

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of pate Man. Thanks Bean,
we appreciate fat Man. Thank you for

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listening to the Adventures of Patement.
I'm w for CUI Radio.