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Sept. 16, 2026

Rock Therapy and Night Terrors: Exploring Ombra’s Latest EP and Social Reflections

Rock Therapy and Night Terrors: Exploring Ombra’s Latest EP and Social Reflections
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In this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with members of Canadian band Ombra for a raw and insightful discussion. The conversation covers the band's new EP Night Terror, the evolution of music, the impact of social media and technology on society, mental health, and the redemptive power of music. The episode is packed with stories about legendary bands, personal anecdotes, and candid reflections on today's world, all underscored by Ombra's commitment to authenticity and positive messaging.

Main Topics Covered

  • The Canadian music scene and the legacy of trios like Rush
  • Navigating band member replacements and fan expectations
  • Criticism and evolution in music (Metallica, Linkin Park, Rush)
  • The influence and toxicity of social media and technology
  • Insights behind Ombra’s EP Night Terror and its themes
  • Generational differences in social interaction and tech dependency
  • The healing and bonding power of music and live shows
  • The importance of individuality and critical thinking
  • The inclusive, supportive nature of the metal community
Key Discussions & StoriesCanadian Music and Legendary Bands
  • Reflections on why Canada produces so much great music, and the distinctiveness of powerful trios like Rush (00:29)
  • Discussion on Annika Niles’ performance with Rush, and the challenge of filling Neil Peart’s shoes (01:22)
Navigating Musical Evolution and Fan Criticism
  • Comparing how bands like Linkin Park and Slipknot dealt with new members and evolving sounds (03:05)
  • Pipeman recounts stories of early Metallica and Slayer concerts, fan gatekeeping, and the nostalgia tied to "garage band" days (05:36)
Social Media & Technology’s Downside
  • Critique of how social media and pervasive tech has eroded true interpersonal interaction (12:01)
  • The rise of “anti-social” media, addiction to scrolling, and its psychological toll (13:09)
  • Observations on how the news, politics, and constant connectivity fuel anxiety and division (14:46; 15:02)
Mental Health, Escapism, and the Creative Process
  • Ombra’s Night Terror EP as commentary on societal hysteria, social media addiction, perfectionism, and the collective desire to escape (10:32; 18:09)
  • The value of music, surfing, and other forms of disconnection for managing overwhelm (21:24)
The Power of Community and Live Music
  • The personal and collective therapy found in jamming and improvisation (22:30)
  • Stories of live shows, mosh pits, and the way music brings diverse people together (23:39; 37:01; 37:45)
  • Debunking the stereotype of metalheads as aggressive outsiders—emphasizing their inclusivity and kindness (37:45)
Final Messages
  • Encouragement to live authentically, pursue happiness, and reject online negativity (29:28)
  • The importance of individuality, diversity, and respect for others’ choices (32:12)
  • The world can learn from the acceptance and camaraderie found in the metal community (36:51; 37:45)
Notable Quotes
  • “Why would you want to stay a garage band? ...You learn your craft, you evolve, you get better. So you want to experiment and do other things.” — Pipeman(06:14)
  • “We want listeners to be themselves, think for themselves, do what they love, do what they want to do with their time.” (29:28)
  • “It’s our diversity that makes the world great, not our similarities.” (32:12)
  • “Music is the best therapy—for you, the artist, and for me, the listener.” — Pipeman (23:35)
  • “The more shows they play, the more experience she gets... just getting to sit behind that kit with those two up front... it’s just you and those songs.” (02:06)
  • “Social media, the internet, the political leaders—none of them let us chill out and just step away.” — Pipeman (21:07)
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Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio.

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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe

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Man W4CY Radio. And I'm excited about our next guest

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because now we're going back up to my friends in

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the north. Like fucking Canada, how do they have such

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great music up there? Probably because it's too fucking cold

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to do anything else. But this band has some killer music.

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So let's welcome to the show, Ombra. How are you?

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Very good. I'm doing great, brother. Thank you for having us.

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Thanks for having us.

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Hey, my pleasure. It is true, though. Like fucking Canada,

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you guys have some of the best music. And what

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always fucking blows my mind is the trios that have

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music that is is more full than nine people in Slipknot. Okay.

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It's like, how do three people make that kind of music?

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Like it happens all the time.

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Yeah, man. I mean, just thinking of my favorite trio

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is Rush outside of ourselves.

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There you go. Well, you're Canadian. Let's hope that like,

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I don't know many Canadians that don't like Rush.

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Yeah, man.

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I don't know if you've seen them on their, their

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current tour. I saw them in Toronto and Montreal, but

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Annika Niles has been awesome.

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Fire she's I've.

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Seen videos and like if you're gonna replace Neil Peart

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there it is okay I'm waiting like I'm I put

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in my media thing for when they play down here

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I'm down South Florida so I have not seen it

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yet but Jesus yeah how do you pick somebody that

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can actually almost match me look.

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You got you got big shoes to fill because there

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was always one Neil Peart there's only gonna be one

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Neil Peart yeah But she's absolutely crushing it. Freaking Getty

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and Alex really did a good job filling that role

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and choosing the right person to replace Neil. And yeah,

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she's absolutely crushing it. And I wish them all the

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best and her all the best. And fucking the more

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shows they play, the more experience she gets. Because she's

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already like a well-established drummer. But just getting to sit

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behind that kit with those two up front. And it's

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just you.

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And those songs.

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Oh, dude, learning those songs is it was crazy because

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the first time I saw them in Toronto.

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Right.

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It was like it was like it was a really

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good show. Then the second time I saw them, she

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was like 10 times like tighter with the band and

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they just sounded so fucking good. And I've seen Rush

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like in New York, in Boston and.

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Like all over the map, to be honest.

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And it's just like. they just sounded so goddamn good.

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It was not to sound like it was with Neil,

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but it's its new own thing. And that's what I

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really loved and appreciated about it.

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Well, she was probably nervous in the beginning too. Cause

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like the shoes you're filling, like I, you know, even

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with Lincoln park. Okay. I know, I know Emily personally. Okay.

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And I saw her at one of the festivals and

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she was like a deer in the headlights. I don't

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blame her. Like what, That was the biggest show she

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ever played at that point when I saw her. So

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people need to give her some slack. You're filling some

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big shoes. And I almost think it was smart of

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Shinodo to get a female instead of trying to copy Chester.

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Because even Chester, when he was in Stone Temple Pilots,

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I didn't like him in Stone Temple Pilots because he's

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trying to be Scott Weiland. I'm like, just be Chester.

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Honestly, bro, Emptiness Machine has been on my repeat a

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lot recently. I'm really digging what they're doing, to be honest.

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Well, you know what? She really is really good, but

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people were giving her so much shit that it's kind

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of hard when you have to step in those shoes

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and people are just hating on you like that. That's

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why I love hearing good stuff about Rush because... People

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could have done the same shit there too. And I

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haven't heard anybody say negative shit about her.

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Well, if you think about it, the people talking shit

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are always the people that are like, oh, the first

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album's always better. Why can't this band release stuff like

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their old shit? And it's just kind of like, well,

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you got to get with the times a little. You

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got to modernize. You can't have the same sounding shit

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all the time. Linkin Park, they got a singer who

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sounds exactly like Chester. okay great sounds just like chester

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but you want to feel a little bit of newness

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yeah you kind of get something different you want to

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have that call back down down to your original sound

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but at the same time you kind of want like

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okay yeah but we have something a little bit better

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now and we have something a little bit different and

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you're hoping the fans like it a lot she's getting

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great fucking reception lincoln park's getting fucking amazing reception right

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now so it's like that's you just want the band

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to be successful. You want them to be good. And

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then they're like, oh, they're selling out. They're doing this.

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It's like, no, they're getting with the times.

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It's Shinoda's band anyway. It wasn't Chester's band. It was

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Shinoda's band. So people saying that he shouldn't have done

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it and all that, it was his band. And listen,

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Chester is Chester and rest in peace. But that doesn't

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mean That the rest of the band should have to

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suffer for the rest of their career or the rest

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of their life and not do anything. And, you know,

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I just don't agree with that philosophy. And I come

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from the gatekeeper generation. And that shit's bullshit. You know,

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and even to your point, I love what you said

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because I'm like that sometimes. Like Slayer, my favorite album

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is Show No Mercy. Metallica, my favorite album is Kill

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Em All. And you think about it sometimes for people...

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with that it's because they're nostalgic of a time. Number one,

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number two, that's when they were like, it was almost

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like you were part of the band then because they

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weren't big. And there were like, I went to see

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Metallica with 25 people. Like, you know, so you feel

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like you're part of something. That's what you're nostalgic over.

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But now being older, I see the other side of it,

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the artist side, like, why would you want to stay

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a garage band? Like, you know, when you start these

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bands at that age, you don't even know what the

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fuck you're doing. So you learn your craft, you evolve,

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you get better. So you want to experiment and do

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other things, you know, but the gatekeepers from the beginning,

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they all want to keep you that garage band that box. Yeah, exactly. Like, Hey,

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I was one of them when the black album came out,

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I was like, fuck those poser sellouts. I'm not listening

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to this shit. But it is a great album. And

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I still love... I even like Sane Anger. Believe it

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or not. Everybody hates on that shit.

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It has its charm. It's not one of Metallica's best,

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if I'm going to interject a little bit. It's not

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one of their best, but Sane Anger does have the riffs.

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And it does have its charm. There's something about the

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album that you could kind of listen to it. You

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could listen to the honesty. Obviously, there was so much

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shit happening with Metallica when they released that album. Fucking

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Martin's going to rehab.

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Fucking.

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uh jason left the band and fucking everyone kind of

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was at each other's throats but there's a charm to

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the band and you could kind of hear that like

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hey they're not doing well they're angry here's the music

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they're putting out and the riffs are solid dude like

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you can't go wrong metallica you.

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Want fucking frantic is a great fucking song man I think.

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I totally agree.

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Invisible Kid, I think that's a great song. What Lars

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was doing with the snare, okay, he's experimenting. I don't

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give him hate for that. You're a musician. You get

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bored of doing the same shit. Let's try something different.

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It didn't work.

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You listen to Lars' snare then, but then you listen

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to the majority of either the hardcore bands now some

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of the thrash bands, some of the, even like the

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death metal bands or the, or the brutal death metal

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bands or slam or whatever, they all have that. They

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they'll turn the snare off and they'll just have those

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kinds of like those snare bombs. And it's, it's, it's

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the trash can snare. If you really kind of put it.

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Together, that's a good way of putting it. That is

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a great way of putting it.

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Everyone's going to talk shit about Lars' snare. Okay, talk shit,

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no problem. A, he's fucking Lars Ulrich. He can do

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whatever the hell he wants. And B, everyone's doing it

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now anyway, so no one has the right to talk shit.

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Well, they all talk shit about him with Napster. Now

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look at all the artists that are suffering. Hello, Lars

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was right. You fucking idiots. He was right, and you're

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all suffering because of it.

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You know?

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And People just love to hate, and I hate that crap.

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And that's what I like about your EP Night Terror,

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because you're talking about all the bullshit that's been going

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on in the past few years that makes me want

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to fucking, and I do, disappear into the middle of

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the jungle. I disappear to Costa Rica and go surfing

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and hide in the jungle from all these idiots in

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the world. We're focusing on all these things. that don't

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affect our life in any way, shape or form. And

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we're letting these fucking leaders divide us, the oldest trick

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in the book. And people have become such fucking assholes

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to be blunt. So I love that your album sings

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about all this bullshit that's going on right now.

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We live it, especially in Canada, like during COVID, especially

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if we're going to go back a few years kind

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of thing, like fucking, we had it rough here. I mean,

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the whole world had it rough, don't get me wrong.

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Like I feel for everyone that was impacted and affected,

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but Canada, we had fucking a thousand different lockdowns different

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periods oh yeah two weeks oh it's only for two

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weeks only for two weeks yeah no problem whatever so

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much bullshit happening so much shit happening on the tv

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that everyone's kind of locked in like fucking eating it

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like it's a bag of chips and it's just kind

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of like there's more to this there's way more to

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this there's way more behind the scenes this is a

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whole other conversation for another day.

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But no no you can write a lot of albums

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about this okay yeah we might.

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Have to honestly but but you know that's basically what

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the ep actually started out as like hysteria the the

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first song on the album it kind of starts out

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um with that exact commentary like what happened during that

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period and it kind of it's not about an individual

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it's about the person actually listening to vep what they're

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experiencing so when you think about it like just listening

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to the lyrics listening to the way that the song

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develops um it just talks about societal collapse it just

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talks about you know a man in the box telling

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you what's going on doesn't tell you what to think

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or feel it's just telling you like it's fucking hysteria

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we move on to stitches right and stitches is about

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like okay we're all glued to our phones right we're

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all seeing this shit on social media we're all consumed

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by this we saw like internet spikes go crazy during

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covid because nobody had anything else to fucking do except

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indulge on uh social media now what are we doing

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we're just stuck on our phones scrolling for reels for

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fucking hours right.

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There's this trend there's that trend there's oh you gotta

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look at this you gotta look like this you gotta

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do this for yourself you gotta do this oh if

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you don't do this then you're then you're fucking a

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weirdo and you're not part of you're not part of

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the cool people who doing.

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It it's stupid like i'm a total techie okay except

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i was telling my daughter one day i'm like You know,

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some days I just want to drive down the road

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and take my laptop, my phone and my iPad and

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throw it out the fucking window and keep driving. And

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she goes, Dad, who are you kidding? You're just as

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addicted as anybody. I'm like, you're right. However, I remember

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what it was like before.

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Absolutely.

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And it was so much better.

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the craziest shit was we actually like were a part

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of that demographic that could like let go of their

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phone and they're not totally consumed by their phone. But

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like if you go just a few generations under us,

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just kids who are like, you know, 18 to 25,

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like it's such a different demographic of individuals and they're

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obsessed with TikTok and obsessed with social media numbers and

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all that shit. And it blows my mind because like

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we can still remember just me going over to his

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house and knocking on the door and saying like, hey,

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Marco's mom, let's, like, is he home?

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You know what I'm saying?

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People are like, what the fuck? Why am I at

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my house? Get the fuck away from my.

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House, bro.

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Send me a text message first. It's like, nah, bro.

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Well, like, I remember being in high school and if

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you wanted to get a check, you sat on the

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phone talking to her all night long and not on

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a cell phone because they didn't exist. It was your

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landline that your parents were eavesdropping on. And nowadays, women,

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they don't even want to talk on the phone. And

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that trips me out because it's like.

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There's no social aspect to shit anymore. It's crazy.

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It's anti-social media is what I call it.

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And I do believe that COVID really had a fucking

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effect on that because it really taught kids to put

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them in front of a screen. If they want to

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talk to someone, they have to write an email or

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they have to write a text about it. There's no

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more like that interpersonal interaction anymore. where you could literally

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sit in front of someone and talk and have a

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conversation and get to know the person you're sitting across the,

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across the screen from, or across the table from, or

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even next to someone like there's not, there's none of

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that anymore. Now it's all like, Oh, well, what are

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they saying? Oh, I have to text them. I have

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to text emoji emoji.

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It's like, we're just talking about this today. I was

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talking to this about somebody because like I get all

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the time, like people, clients of mine and stuff like that,

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something that would take like a, two minute phone call

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i'm like well call me oh no we need to

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do zoom i like to do face to face and

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i'm like that's not face to face that's video to

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video okay face to face is actually sitting in front

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of somebody and not looking at yourself while you're talking

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to them yeah absolutely i never knew what my facial

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expression was while i was talking to people before this

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shit Now, sometimes I look, I'm like, oh, fuck, that's

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what I'm looking like. Oh, OK. You know, it's like

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it's people can't be social anymore. And it's it's causing

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all this issue because social media and the Internet. I

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don't think things are that much different now politically than

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they were in the eighties. The difference is we have

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too much in our face all the time that we

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have to see. And like you watch the news, it's

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the same story over and over and over again. You

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watch for an hour, you've seen the same story like

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50 times or brainwashing you and the propaganda and everything else. Like, listen,

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there's something to be said about ignorance is bliss because

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the bottom line is, We worry about things that may

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never affect our life in any way, shape or form. Like,

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because it's constantly in front of us and arguing like,

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you know, Hey, I grew up even with politics. You

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didn't tell people who you voted for. It was none

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of their business. I remember being a kid and my

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parents saying, when you vote, it's your business. It's your

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personal choice. And nobody has to know who you voted

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for now. It's like they're gangbangers coming up to you,

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putting you up against, well, who'd you vote for? Who'd

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you vote for?

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And in my opinion, it should still be like that.

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People shouldn't know who everyone votes for because then you

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automatically get that image associated to you. It's like, oh, well,

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you voted for this guy. Oh, you must be this

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kind of person. And I'm not going to deal with

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you or I'm not even going to give you the

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time of day or even have a conversation.

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Exactly.

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Because of who you vote for or your opinions on

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this and that and this and that. And then a

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lot of people will fall under that category of like, oh, well,

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I have to think this way and I have to

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say this because if not, then some troll on the

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Internet is going to make fun of me or cancel

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me or, fucking think I'm some person that I'm not

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when it's just kind of like, hey, everyone's just trying

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to live. You're allowed your own opinions. You're allowed your

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own thoughts and everyone should have their own thoughts.

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And we learn from people different from us, not the

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same as us. I'd rather talk to somebody who has

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a different opinion as long as they're not an asshole

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and have a conversation. And maybe you might learn something.

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Maybe they might learn something. That's the difference. Everybody like,

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I can only be your friend if you think exactly

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like me. And that is why AI is going to

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take over. That is why AI is going to destroy humanity.

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And listen, I blame my generation. I'm generation X, man.

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We built all this shit. We built all this shit

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to make our life easier. It did not make our

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life easier. It backfired. And we said in the eighties,

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AI was going to take over. What happened in the

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news the other day, that guy, that whistleblower, he's like, oh,

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the end of humanity will be at the end of

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this decade. And, uh, it's, it's kind of wild. Like

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what we're living in and people don't even check anything.

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Like if they see something on social media, yeah. A headline,

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a clickbait headline, they just take the ball and run

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with it. And they don't even read the damn article

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or do any research. I mean, I've said to somebody,

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is that peer reviewed? And they're like, yeah, all my

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friends agree with me.

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But bro, that's what I'm saying. Like that is exactly

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like what our EP talks about. These are all learned behaviors.

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Humans learn from each other. You don't just, you know, you.

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Don't just come out one day.

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And my favorite example is, is drivers. If you actually

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watch drivers, they actually replicate what they were like when

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their parents were in the car with them. This is

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a crazy psychological study. And if your parents were yelling

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and say, Oh, this guy's that fucking asshole. He cut

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me off. Like you're you, when you grow up, you

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will do that. And you don't even realize why you're

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doing it. But the EP talks about all this. So

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from hysteria talking about the societal collapse and what happens

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in the case of like mass hysteria, then we take

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it to stitches. We look at social media, we look

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at overindulgence and trying to be perfect, chasing perfection. Women,

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of course, like I feel so bad for a lot

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of women in our generation because they're so consumed with

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like being perfect and, you know, the lip fillers and

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the Botox.

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And all this shit. It's like the girls just have

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to understand.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying?

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No, but they're like, they have to understand they have

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something that is beautiful inside of them that nobody could like,

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like nobody on the planet could even, you know, describe essentially.

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So it's like, you know, you don't need Botox. You

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don't need all that shit. You're, you're beautiful as, as

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you are as a human being, you know?

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No doubt. If you want to do.

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That and express yourself by all means, go ahead. But

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Stitches explores the toxicity that comes along with social media

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and chasing that perfection and always wanting, you can have like,

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the best partner in the world. And then you see online,

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there's some attractive person and you drop your partner for

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somebody just because of the way they look.

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And it's like, people are being taught these behaviors.

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Yeah.

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And then we look at blue dream, right?

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Blue dreams.

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Like I want to get the fuck away from all this.

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So I'm going to, you know, me and Marco, me

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and Marco, if you're familiar with blue dream, we've smoked

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a lot of blue dream in our time. And basically we,

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That song kind of takes you on the trip.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like escaping all the bullshit for a second and like,

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you know, relaxing a bit.

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But then you realize like, oh, fuck, I'm dependent on

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this shit. And it's not good. Paranoia comes in.

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The paranoia starts setting in and you're just like, this

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isn't really real.

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This is just for a brief moment in time. No, no.

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We go to Night Terror. It's that fucking realization. Like,

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holy shit. What the fuck is going on? Realizing what's

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going on around you.

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I have night terror. Every time I come back to

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the U S man, literally I like I'll, I'll go

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like Costa Rica surfing and my brother will call me up.

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It will be like, So did you, did you see

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the news today? I'm like, no. And I don't give

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a fuck. And I'm going surfing. Don't bother me. Go

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obsess over the news on your own. You know, cause

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you do have to step away from all this shit.

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That's why everybody has anxiety and panic attacks and all

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this shit going on because they can't step away from it.

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There's no downtime. There's not even like I experienced it

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on radio stations. I've, clients that text me at like

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three in the morning about something they need a month

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from now. And then they're sending me a, a Facebook

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message that they texted me and I don't answer that.

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And then they send me an email that they did

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both of those and they're freaking out. They start panicking.

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Oh my God, why are you not answering me? Maybe

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because it's three in the morning and maybe because your

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urgent thing ain't for a fucking month from now. You know,

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it's like, People need to be able to chill out.

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And unfortunately, the media, social media, the internet, the political leaders,

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none of them let us chill out and just step away.

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Everyone needs to kind of find within them the means

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to chill out. Like, for example, you're mentioning surfing. You

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go surfing a lot. That's fucking fantastic. That's your way

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of disconnecting from all the bullshit and all the noise.

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Totally.

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And you're kind of immersed in what you need to do.

438
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For Giuseppe and I, and even Nico, our drummer, it's music.

439
00:21:38.890 --> 00:21:42.069
We're immersed. We want to disconnect. Okay, guys, we're doing

440
00:21:42.089 --> 00:21:44.750
a jam this week. Okay, for three hours, we're in

441
00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:47.049
a room. Our phones are away, except for if we

442
00:21:47.069 --> 00:21:52.309
want to record something for ideas, you know. And we're together. Hey, man,

443
00:21:52.710 --> 00:21:55.539
I like what you did over there. Play that fill again.

444
00:21:56.019 --> 00:21:58.480
You know, maybe change the riff up a little bit. Hey, guys,

445
00:21:58.500 --> 00:21:59.880
do you like it like this or should I play

446
00:21:59.900 --> 00:22:02.660
it like this? And you're interacting and you're having opinions

447
00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.849
and you're having everyone's opinions and you're talking about it.

448
00:22:04.849 --> 00:22:07.490
Giuseppe can be like, yo, bro, play the riff this way.

449
00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:09.430
I'll be like, no, I'm going to play it this way.

450
00:22:09.529 --> 00:22:11.930
And sometimes we go at it where we're like, hey, dude,

451
00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:14.049
It's shit. You'll be like, yo, bro, it's shit. And

452
00:22:14.130 --> 00:22:17.099
it's like, okay, how do we come together? I'm not

453
00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.099
going to send you an email about the tabs I'm writing.

454
00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.960
And I'm like, no, we're going to sit down and

455
00:22:21.980 --> 00:22:24.039
we're going to fucking hash this out right now. So

456
00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.220
that way we have a beautiful product that comes out

457
00:22:26.259 --> 00:22:26.680
of it. Yeah.

458
00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:29.039
We've actually learned a lot from each other just by like,

459
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:30.720
you know, through music. Like me and Marco have been

460
00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:32.319
best friends since we were like children, you know.

461
00:22:32.420 --> 00:22:35.549
Nice. like getting to create with each other and.

462
00:22:35.490 --> 00:22:37.650
Finally getting the cp out it's been we learned so

463
00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:39.670
much from each other like it's crazy and now when

464
00:22:39.690 --> 00:22:42.130
we like our writing process is just so much it's

465
00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:44.180
evolved so much because i think the traditional way is

466
00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:46.400
like somebody has a whole song idea and they fucking

467
00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:49.200
bring it together like recently like we've just been free

468
00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:52.160
jamming for like hours and just adding riffs and adding.

469
00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.920
I love that that's old school right there it's.

470
00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.420
But it's beyond like it's like i can't even fucking

471
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.259
yesterday we're in the studio right and we're just fucking

472
00:22:59.299 --> 00:23:02.170
recording for like 30 40 minutes on just like different

473
00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:04.289
progressions and it just keeps on evolving and it's like

474
00:23:04.970 --> 00:23:06.769
you know it's funny for a thrash band and like

475
00:23:06.809 --> 00:23:08.369
a groove band or you know whatever the.

476
00:23:08.349 --> 00:23:10.470
Fuck people are calling us dark rock that's what people

477
00:23:10.529 --> 00:23:11.170
are calling.

478
00:23:10.950 --> 00:23:14.799
Us anyways call us whatever the fuck you want at

479
00:23:14.819 --> 00:23:16.519
the end of the day we're sitting there jamming for

480
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:18.980
like 30 40 minutes and we come out with this

481
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.059
thing that was like unbelievable and i'm like shit that

482
00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:23.079
was like really.

483
00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:24.160
Good and none of it was planned it's.

484
00:23:24.099 --> 00:23:26.460
All improv right so so wait it should be.

485
00:23:27.009 --> 00:23:29.890
Man, the level of musicianship that we've gotten to over

486
00:23:29.910 --> 00:23:31.170
the years has just been incredible.

487
00:23:31.190 --> 00:23:32.529
And to be able to do that, you know.

488
00:23:33.410 --> 00:23:36.019
And it's the best therapy there is. Best therapy for you,

489
00:23:36.059 --> 00:23:39.420
the artist, and for me, the listener, you know. And

490
00:23:39.819 --> 00:23:43.339
that's why I love working all these music festivals, I guess.

491
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.640
Get to escape the world. You know, all the shit

492
00:23:46.660 --> 00:23:49.619
that's going on in the world ain't happening. You know,

493
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.569
and I do think about, like, nowadays, when I go

494
00:23:53.589 --> 00:23:56.000
into a mosh pit, I have to turn to whoever

495
00:23:56.059 --> 00:23:58.680
I'm with and say, here, hold my phone. I didn't

496
00:23:58.700 --> 00:24:02.599
worry about that shit in the 80s. I didn't have

497
00:24:02.660 --> 00:24:05.779
anything in my pockets or anything I had to worry about.

498
00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:10.759
Just go in and do. And then you watch these people. Oh,

499
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.660
it's so annoying to me. I don't care if people

500
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.650
take pictures and videos. I have to do it for

501
00:24:16.690 --> 00:24:21.950
my job. But listen, fucking watching the whole show on

502
00:24:21.990 --> 00:24:26.450
your phone. Like, what the hell is that? mind-boggling oh

503
00:24:26.470 --> 00:24:28.970
my god like just be present you can watch that

504
00:24:29.029 --> 00:24:32.569
home on youtube man even when i am doing stuff

505
00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:37.130
for my job you know i have the phone over

506
00:24:37.380 --> 00:24:41.599
on the side i'm watching the show i just position

507
00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:44.359
the phone where it's on there video for like 30

508
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.319
60 seconds and then it's back in my pocket and

509
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.740
i'm participating but even when i'm holding the phone up

510
00:24:52.099 --> 00:24:54.769
i'm not looking through the phone like what are these

511
00:24:54.829 --> 00:24:57.960
people doing watching through the phone? I don't get it.

512
00:24:59.029 --> 00:25:03.960
Oh my God. Like it's, I love it. One time

513
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:09.220
somebody was in the front row on their phone and

514
00:25:09.299 --> 00:25:13.809
Corey Taylor went up and smacked it out of his hand. And,

515
00:25:14.029 --> 00:25:17.829
and I'm like, I'm fucking cheering over that. Cause like,

516
00:25:18.029 --> 00:25:20.769
come on. That's also, I think if I were the

517
00:25:20.910 --> 00:25:23.759
artist up there, I'd be really insulted by that crap.

518
00:25:23.779 --> 00:25:25.740
For sure. For sure. And like, I was at a,

519
00:25:25.819 --> 00:25:27.400
I was at an uncle acid and the dead beach

520
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.460
show a few years back. And there was a guy

521
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.180
exactly same situation as you. He was on his phone

522
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.809
the whole fucking time. And the guy is singing the singer.

523
00:25:34.849 --> 00:25:37.769
He's singing his song. Everyone's jamming. Everyone's jumping. It's a

524
00:25:37.829 --> 00:25:40.470
great fucking riff. It's having a good time. And the

525
00:25:40.509 --> 00:25:42.369
singer's telling him, you'll put your phone away, put your

526
00:25:42.410 --> 00:25:44.769
phone away. Like literally like directly at the guy, put

527
00:25:44.789 --> 00:25:48.480
your phone away. And the guy's there like, Oh, I know.

528
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:48.720
Right.

529
00:25:49.059 --> 00:25:51.339
He just kicks the phone out of the guy's hand.

530
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.720
The phone goes flying. It's at least in four or

531
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.720
five pieces. The guys, I guess he's wearing docs or

532
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.619
something and just the phone shatters and everyone's going crazy.

533
00:26:00.660 --> 00:26:02.460
And I'm like, dude, that's the most rock and roll

534
00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:03.500
thing I've ever done.

535
00:26:03.579 --> 00:26:04.039
Nice.

536
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:05.000
Nice.

537
00:26:05.299 --> 00:26:06.339
I love rock and roll.

538
00:26:06.380 --> 00:26:07.720
I was like, no, that's fucking cool.

539
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:13.119
I would like sometimes my media coverage. The videos will

540
00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:16.990
be funny because the videos will either be like shaking

541
00:26:17.009 --> 00:26:19.549
because I'm jumping, you know, when they're telling you to

542
00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:25.750
jump and I'm just holding the phone jumping. One time,

543
00:26:26.309 --> 00:26:29.769
this was the funniest shit ever, I was in a

544
00:26:29.829 --> 00:26:33.130
Bring Me the Horizon pit and I was filming it,

545
00:26:33.809 --> 00:26:36.750
you know, only for a little bit for, you know, media.

546
00:26:38.029 --> 00:26:43.079
And somebody sideswiped me And that phone flew out of

547
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.400
my hand and it was in the air. Like I,

548
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.140
it was like in slow motion to me. Okay. It

549
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.819
was like flipping through the air drops on the ground,

550
00:26:52.900 --> 00:26:56.160
right in the pit. And people, and people are like

551
00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.559
still going in the pit. And I just dove down

552
00:26:59.619 --> 00:27:03.380
and grabbed it. And I, the part I was happiest

553
00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:07.740
about was the fact that it was still filming and

554
00:27:07.779 --> 00:27:12.079
it actually filmed somebody stepping on my phone. I wasn't upset.

555
00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:20.809
I was like, man, that's cool as shit. Pit POV, bro.

556
00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:27.250
That's great stuff. I'm like, okay, I'm sharing this shit because, hey,

557
00:27:28.009 --> 00:27:30.950
this is what it's like to be in the pit.

558
00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:35.500
We were talking about the surfing. I can't scroll TikTok

559
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:36.799
while I'm on a surfboard.

560
00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:39.359
That's a good one.

561
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.750
You know, find things you're into and put the phone away.

562
00:27:47.869 --> 00:27:50.569
What's going to happen? What's the worst that's going to

563
00:27:50.609 --> 00:27:54.890
happen if you don't respond to your phone? Like back

564
00:27:54.910 --> 00:27:57.680
before this stuff, if you called a business when they

565
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:01.160
were closed, you didn't freak out or panic. You knew

566
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.539
they're not getting back to you till the next day.

567
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:06.180
And you went about your life.

568
00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:08.880
But even like what's on your phone, like what you're

569
00:28:08.900 --> 00:28:10.000
going to miss a text message.

570
00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:10.240
Okay.

571
00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:12.299
It's a text message. It's going to be there when

572
00:28:12.339 --> 00:28:13.960
you check your phone in an hour or two.

573
00:28:14.309 --> 00:28:15.109
It's good.

574
00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:17.230
The email is going to be there. The video your

575
00:28:17.289 --> 00:28:19.690
friend is sending you is going to be there still.

576
00:28:19.750 --> 00:28:22.509
It's not like you're missing something live. If anything, you're

577
00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:23.650
going to miss something live.

578
00:28:23.690 --> 00:28:27.319
If you're not on, that's what happens. And sometimes too,

579
00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:30.019
when you do that after a while, you get a

580
00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:32.980
different perspective because there's times I've been out surfing for

581
00:28:33.019 --> 00:28:36.119
like four hours. And I come back to my phone

582
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.339
and I turn the phone on. I'm like, fuck this

583
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.579
and turned it back off because it's like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

584
00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:48.849
None of it's important. Like not what we deem as important.

585
00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:54.009
It's just not that important. Live life, man. Enjoy life.

586
00:28:54.769 --> 00:28:57.150
And that is what I love about your EP is

587
00:28:57.210 --> 00:29:02.329
because you're letting us know that, hey, it's time to

588
00:29:02.410 --> 00:29:04.890
live life and not. focus on all this stuff because

589
00:29:04.910 --> 00:29:07.589
we can't change it and i'm a big believer now

590
00:29:07.630 --> 00:29:12.299
i'm a motivational speaker too like you can't change things

591
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.720
you can only change your attitude towards them like absolutely

592
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.220
you know this whole climate that we're in there's nothing

593
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.619
us peons can do about it but how we approach

594
00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:27.660
it whole different story.

595
00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:31.210
And that's like the message what we really portray and

596
00:29:31.250 --> 00:29:33.640
like if we're going to leave words is just kind

597
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.470
of we want listeners to be themselves think for themselves

598
00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.950
do what they love do what they want to do

599
00:29:39.970 --> 00:29:42.630
with their time not because oh some asshole on the

600
00:29:42.650 --> 00:29:44.279
internet told them to do it this way it's no

601
00:29:44.299 --> 00:29:48.759
no you like fucking uh bedazzling rocks bro by all

602
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.500
means bedazzle all the rocks in the world bro if

603
00:29:52.539 --> 00:29:54.380
this is you and this brings you peace and this

604
00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:58.220
brings you comfort We support it. We support whatever you

605
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.440
want to do that makes you happy. However you want

606
00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:05.140
to think that benefits yourself, do it.

607
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.980
I always say that. I always say you do you.

608
00:30:09.089 --> 00:30:11.670
As long as you're not doing something to intentionally harm

609
00:30:11.730 --> 00:30:17.750
other people or yourself, you do you. People talk about

610
00:30:17.789 --> 00:30:20.529
stuff that doesn't even affect their life about what other

611
00:30:20.630 --> 00:30:25.119
people do. I don't give a shit. about what you

612
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.339
do with your life as long as you're being a

613
00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:33.049
good person and a good human being and not purposely

614
00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:37.410
trying to do shit to people. Why do people care

615
00:30:37.750 --> 00:30:42.950
how other people live their life? There's so many subjects

616
00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:46.430
we could talk about, but that's what goes on right now. Oh,

617
00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:49.460
if you do this, blah, blah, blah. If you do this, blah, blah, blah.

618
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:50.579
Shut up.

619
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.680
At the end of the day, people are just depraved.

620
00:30:53.180 --> 00:30:55.400
And they just, they want something to hate on. They

621
00:30:55.460 --> 00:30:59.559
want something to be negative towards because they, they love

622
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.160
being able to talk shit and they want to, they,

623
00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:05.509
they actively go out and look for something to talk shit.

624
00:31:05.990 --> 00:31:08.349
You like this band. Great. You don't like this band.

625
00:31:08.450 --> 00:31:10.349
You have every right to like that, to not like

626
00:31:10.390 --> 00:31:13.569
that band, but for you to, to fuck with someone

627
00:31:13.650 --> 00:31:16.269
else and say, Oh, well you like this band, you're

628
00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:18.990
an asshole or you're a poser or you're this or

629
00:31:19.009 --> 00:31:22.480
you're that it's, Why, man? You're entitled to your opinion.

630
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:26.500
And by all means, go ahead. Have all the opinions

631
00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:29.619
in the world. But don't start messing on someone else's

632
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.349
opinion because of what they like or what they like

633
00:31:32.369 --> 00:31:34.190
to do or what brings them happiness.

634
00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:37.109
I'll give you a perfect example. I have a brother

635
00:31:37.190 --> 00:31:40.730
that if somebody does not agree with him, they're uneducated

636
00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:45.049
and they're uninformed. And I always say to him, or...

637
00:31:44.869 --> 00:31:49.190
And I use a lot of ors. I'm like, or...

638
00:31:49.619 --> 00:31:52.099
They grew up somewhere different than you. Or they had

639
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.690
different experiences than you. Or they had different education than you.

640
00:31:56.130 --> 00:31:58.690
Or they had different jobs than you. Or they have

641
00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:02.369
different viewpoints than you. And then I say, there's 10

642
00:32:02.369 --> 00:32:06.799
million other ors. And he goes, no, they're just uneducated

643
00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:09.579
and uninformed. And those are the type of people we're

644
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.599
dealing with in society nowadays that think that way. But

645
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:16.769
you know what? it's our diversity that makes the world great.

646
00:32:17.009 --> 00:32:18.470
Not our similarities.

647
00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:21.710
Absolutely. You couldn't have said it better. And at the

648
00:32:21.730 --> 00:32:23.609
end of the day, you quote big Lebowski and you

649
00:32:23.650 --> 00:32:25.769
just go, Hey man, that's just, that's just your opinion.

650
00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:33.680
Exactly. And I think if we traveled the world too,

651
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:37.019
that's another thing that we would be enlightened, you know,

652
00:32:37.460 --> 00:32:41.099
a lot because everybody lives in their little bubble. Okay.

653
00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:44.549
And listen, In my country, that's always been the case.

654
00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.250
Like when I was younger, don't go anywhere else. It's

655
00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:51.160
so scary out there. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

656
00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:52.859
I remember the first time I went to Europe, I

657
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.480
was like, what the hell were they talking about? I

658
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.160
feel freer here than I do at home. And like

659
00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:02.890
getting to know people's cultures and how they live. And

660
00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:06.430
then you find out. Here's the saddest part I found out.

661
00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:10.019
Is the third world countries are the ones that have

662
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.279
the more manners, the more respect and are the nicest

663
00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:17.799
human beings of anywhere. Of course, your country, your country

664
00:33:17.819 --> 00:33:22.200
is known for the nicest fucking people anywhere. People, yeah,

665
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.539
100 percent, you know, and like so more people should

666
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.650
be like that. It's like. I have a bunch of

667
00:33:28.670 --> 00:33:30.589
Canadian friends, but one of my friends, she was on

668
00:33:30.609 --> 00:33:32.210
the phone with me while I was walking down the

669
00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:34.559
road in Costa Rica. And somebody said, sorry, she goes,

670
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.539
they must be Canadian. And she was right. She was right.

671
00:33:40.059 --> 00:33:46.559
Actually, you know, sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh no, you sorry.

672
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.059
I must, I must've been Canadian in previous life. Cause

673
00:33:50.099 --> 00:33:52.609
I do that all the time. Like I'll bump into somebody.

674
00:33:53.369 --> 00:33:56.269
but they actually bumped into me, not me bumping into them.

675
00:33:56.369 --> 00:33:59.230
And I say, sorry. And sometimes afterwards I'm like, why

676
00:33:59.269 --> 00:34:02.450
did I say, sorry, this person did to me, but

677
00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:04.950
you know, it's just a matter of having respect for

678
00:34:05.009 --> 00:34:07.809
other human beings, being a good human being. And you

679
00:34:07.849 --> 00:34:11.590
know what? I always say this in motivational speeches. Why

680
00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:13.880
the fuck do you want to be negative? Why do

681
00:34:13.889 --> 00:34:16.980
you want to be frowning? It takes 64 muscles to

682
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.579
frown and only 12 to smile. It's a lot easier

683
00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:20.099
to smile.

684
00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:20.920
Yep.

685
00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:23.539
You know, And you have these people that have nothing

686
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:30.369
like Bali. There's people that literally have nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

687
00:34:30.949 --> 00:34:35.090
And everybody you walk by, they'll be like, Hey, how

688
00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:37.190
you doing? They don't know you just, Hey, how you doing?

689
00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:40.409
Have a nice day. I can, I sit there. I'm like, well,

690
00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:43.599
we can learn a lot because we're not having in

691
00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:46.619
the United States. We're not having a nice day. If, uh,

692
00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:49.380
you know, we don't have a better card at our neighbor,

693
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.199
you know, uh.

694
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.179
The barista fucked up my coffee order.

695
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.159
Yeah, exactly. Or go make it yourself. The one I

696
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.039
hate the most, I thought it would be cured with

697
00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:04.820
COVID is the festival bitchers. You know, the ones that

698
00:35:04.900 --> 00:35:07.960
are like a band drops out and they're like, Oh,

699
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.880
that's the only reason I was going to the festival.

700
00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:12.719
Then you're an idiot. Go to their concert. Cause the

701
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.739
festival show ain't going to be the same, a festival.

702
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.179
So you can have the experience and experience new music. Okay.

703
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.460
It's not just because one band, like there's 160 bands

704
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.710
and you only care about one. You're the idiot, is

705
00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:29.769
what I kind of say.

706
00:35:29.969 --> 00:35:32.730
You spend way too much money just to see one band.

707
00:35:32.769 --> 00:35:35.460
Right, exactly. And oh my God, they dropped out. So

708
00:35:35.539 --> 00:35:37.320
now it's the end of the world and you're going

709
00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:38.800
to have the worst experience ever.

710
00:35:40.139 --> 00:35:42.059
And that's the thing. It's also... they're going to have

711
00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:43.860
the worst experience, but they're going to make sure that

712
00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:45.539
you're not going to have a good experience because all

713
00:35:45.579 --> 00:35:47.219
they're going to talk about is all this one band

714
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:48.820
dropped out. And it's just, you're trying to have a

715
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.139
good time. It's like, okay, they dropped out. It sucks,

716
00:35:51.219 --> 00:35:54.889
but we'll catch them. They're in town. Oh, well, they're

717
00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:56.590
a young band. They'll, they'll still be touring. It's not

718
00:35:56.610 --> 00:35:57.789
like it's their farewell tour.

719
00:35:57.829 --> 00:36:03.289
Like, I know. Right. Like, and it's, you know, we

720
00:36:03.329 --> 00:36:06.510
need more of music in the world and less of

721
00:36:06.630 --> 00:36:11.170
all the chatter that, I have actually a solution to

722
00:36:11.210 --> 00:36:14.690
all the world's problems, by the way. I don't know

723
00:36:14.730 --> 00:36:18.289
if I could ever make it happen, but my solution

724
00:36:18.349 --> 00:36:22.230
is you have one major metal music festival that the

725
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:28.099
whole world is required to attend except the political leaders.

726
00:36:29.019 --> 00:36:32.860
They're banned. Security has strict instructions that they are not

727
00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:37.739
allowed in the venue and just put everybody in a

728
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:41.780
mosh pit And we'll all work it out and hug

729
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.800
at the end. And there you go. Solve the problems

730
00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:50.860
because listen, they think we're Neanderthals going into mosh pits.

731
00:36:51.460 --> 00:36:53.820
I think it's the most civilized thing you could do.

732
00:36:53.900 --> 00:36:56.960
Cause it, listen, there's a lot of people that have

733
00:36:57.019 --> 00:36:59.800
been saved from me kicking their ass by me going

734
00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:04.699
into a mosh pit. And, you know, we have that rule,

735
00:37:05.139 --> 00:37:08.030
pick them up and we all, you know, like all

736
00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:10.400
these big scary dudes are hugging each other at the

737
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.539
end of a, of a song. Like the world can

738
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.079
learn a lot from metal heads. That's all I'm going

739
00:37:16.099 --> 00:37:16.519
to say.

740
00:37:17.019 --> 00:37:19.900
Absolutely. I, I think we totally agree with you on that.

741
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.619
And it's, it's, it's funny because even like non metal heads,

742
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.380
like we have a lot of friends and we surround

743
00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:27.940
ourselves with a lot of diverse groups of people because

744
00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:30.969
it's just, it's how we grew up. Like grew up with,

745
00:37:30.989 --> 00:37:33.329
from immigrant families and stuff like that. Came, he came

746
00:37:33.369 --> 00:37:35.650
here post world war two to make a better life

747
00:37:35.690 --> 00:37:38.690
for themselves and We were brought up on a special

748
00:37:38.869 --> 00:37:40.840
set of values and stuff like that. And not to

749
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.059
judge a book by its cover and really kind of

750
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:44.860
get to know the person you're with and all that stuff.

751
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.659
And even metal heads, we are the nicest people, not

752
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.489
only festival wise, but in general. Yes. The music we

753
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:56.690
listen to is aggressive, sometimes scary, sometimes brutal, sometimes negative,

754
00:37:56.730 --> 00:37:59.590
sometimes mean, whatever. But at the end of the show,

755
00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:02.610
as you said, we're all hugging each other. Oh, share

756
00:38:02.650 --> 00:38:04.469
a beer. Oh, you want to puff with this joint? Oh,

757
00:38:04.469 --> 00:38:05.780
do you have a cig? Do you have this? Like,

758
00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:08.769
Everyone's looking out. No, but it's true. Everyone's looking out.

759
00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:14.900
No outsiders. There's no outsiders. We're all outsiders. And in this,

760
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.219
on the inside, it doesn't matter. You know what? You

761
00:38:18.260 --> 00:38:21.340
want to be a banana? Be a banana. I had

762
00:38:21.389 --> 00:38:26.510
the most fun at Bloodstock last month in a mosh

763
00:38:26.570 --> 00:38:31.210
pit with a bunch of dinosaurs. Like, you know, that

764
00:38:31.230 --> 00:38:34.280
was fun. It was a lot of fun. Like, And

765
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.119
the thing is, is it's true. We're like one big

766
00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:40.039
happy family. I mean, I have a perfect example. I

767
00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:41.989
have somebody that used to work for me and I

768
00:38:41.989 --> 00:38:44.789
had to cover two festivals in one weekend. She was

769
00:38:44.829 --> 00:38:48.710
a country girl, a redneck. And I was like, you

770
00:38:48.750 --> 00:38:50.670
got to cover this other show. And she was scared.

771
00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:52.760
She's like, I've never been to a rock show in

772
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.800
my life, much less metal. And I'm like, well, listen,

773
00:38:56.900 --> 00:38:59.480
let me tell you how it's going to go. You

774
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.780
go to these country shows with a bunch of rednecks

775
00:39:01.820 --> 00:39:06.539
drinking Jack Daniels and having fistfights. There are no fights

776
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.550
at a metal show for the most part. You're going

777
00:39:10.570 --> 00:39:12.590
to go there and you're going to make a bunch

778
00:39:12.610 --> 00:39:14.929
of new friends, probably get a new boyfriend, and you're

779
00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.829
going to see that we're one big family and the

780
00:39:17.909 --> 00:39:20.909
nicest people you ever met. She comes back after the weekend.

781
00:39:20.949 --> 00:39:23.969
She's like, oh my God, you were so right. I

782
00:39:24.449 --> 00:39:27.489
made all these new friends. I teabagged some guy. He's

783
00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:33.659
now my boyfriend. And, uh, have this new favorite band.

784
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.639
I don't know if you know them. They're called Bring

785
00:39:35.659 --> 00:39:37.420
Me to Rise. I'm like, yeah, I think I might

786
00:39:37.460 --> 00:39:38.219
know who they.

787
00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:42.309
Are. A small little band.

788
00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:47.050
Yeah, exactly. I think if everybody experienced what it's really

789
00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:50.340
like instead of what they perceive us to be, Because

790
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.320
it is funny when I talk about this with some

791
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.599
of my band friends are like, yeah, let's not let

792
00:39:56.619 --> 00:39:59.619
them know. Let's keep them thinking we're scary because we'll

793
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.750
keep the assholes out. Because that is what happens. Sometimes

794
00:40:02.769 --> 00:40:05.489
you got these assholes that come in and they're not

795
00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:07.909
metalheads and they want to show how tough they are.

796
00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:12.030
They find out that we are a community that protects

797
00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:13.250
each other real quick.

798
00:40:13.909 --> 00:40:15.690
They find out the hard way. And you know what?

799
00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:18.250
It's a lesson learned for them. They're going to realize, oh,

800
00:40:18.269 --> 00:40:20.679
we're not going to fuck with the metalheads. Because, yeah,

801
00:40:20.739 --> 00:40:23.110
they may look scary and be really, really nice. But

802
00:40:23.429 --> 00:40:26.179
shit hits the fan. We're coming together. And you're going

803
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:27.940
to be strongly outnumbered.

804
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.139
No doubt. No doubt.

805
00:40:31.139 --> 00:40:32.539
And even when we kick your ass at the end

806
00:40:32.579 --> 00:40:33.960
of it, we're going to offer you a beer.

807
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:35.340
Exactly.

808
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:36.980
It is what it is. It's like, hey, look, you

809
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.119
just found out the hard way.

810
00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:40.300
Welcome. Lesson learned.

811
00:40:40.579 --> 00:40:41.079
Lesson learned.

812
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.019
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you

813
00:40:44.059 --> 00:40:47.300
guys on socials, even though we were talking shit about

814
00:40:47.340 --> 00:40:48.039
the socials.

815
00:40:50.260 --> 00:40:50.679
Hey, man.

816
00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:52.500
Full circle moment.

817
00:40:52.909 --> 00:40:55.630
I know, right? And how they can get your new

818
00:40:55.710 --> 00:40:59.929
AP and check out your shows. And most importantly, buy

819
00:40:59.949 --> 00:41:02.170
your merch because they can't listen to my show unless

820
00:41:02.210 --> 00:41:02.889
they buy your merch.

821
00:41:03.510 --> 00:41:06.539
So, yeah, you can buy our merch and access our

822
00:41:06.579 --> 00:41:10.500
music on our website, ombra.band. we're about to be dropping

823
00:41:10.579 --> 00:41:13.480
some merch this week. Actually, we got a whole new line.

824
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:14.760
This is one of the caps.

825
00:41:14.780 --> 00:41:15.599
Nice.

826
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:20.429
But yeah, socials at a band called Ombra on Instagram.

827
00:41:21.849 --> 00:41:23.510
And pretty much that's where you can catch us, man.

828
00:41:23.610 --> 00:41:25.230
Like we're only on those two places really on our

829
00:41:25.250 --> 00:41:27.550
website or on Instagram or on Facebook too.

830
00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:33.380
Nice. And is there any other words you want to tell,

831
00:41:33.420 --> 00:41:35.179
final words you want to tell the listeners about your

832
00:41:35.219 --> 00:41:37.559
new album, about your band that we haven't covered already?

833
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.719
Um, honestly, man, not really. I think we covered a

834
00:41:40.739 --> 00:41:42.889
lot of shit, but I hope you guys really enjoy it.

835
00:41:42.900 --> 00:41:45.460
We put our heart and soul into that. And, um, man,

836
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.280
we can't wait to drop some more music for you

837
00:41:47.300 --> 00:41:47.840
guys in the new year.

838
00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:51.099
That's nice. I can't wait till you're at one of

839
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:52.239
the festivals I'm at.

840
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.389
Hell yeah, man. So we can hang out. 100%.

841
00:41:56.389 --> 00:41:59.889
Love it. You guys rock. And, uh, thank you a

842
00:41:59.929 --> 00:42:03.110
lot for giving us great music that has a great message.

843
00:42:03.570 --> 00:42:05.449
And thanks for being on the adventures of pipe, man.

844
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:06.409
Awesome.

845
00:42:06.449 --> 00:42:08.650
Thank you for having us. And to the listeners, thank

846
00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:12.909
you for supporting. Keep supporting heavy music and keep on rocking.

847
00:42:16.369 --> 00:42:21.489
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pikeman on

848
00:42:21.510 --> 00:42:22.269
W4CY radio.