June 7, 2026

David Sanchez of Havok at Milwaukee Metal Fest - PipemanRadio Interview

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Pipeman speaks with David Sanchez of Thrash Metal Band Havok at Milwaukee Metal Fest.

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Hi, you live done two censure?

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Wow for you your This is the Pipe Man here

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on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio,

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and I'm here.

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With David Sanchez from Havoc.

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Nice here at Milwaukee Metalfest. How does it feel to

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be playing right across the street from the hotel that

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Jeffrey Dahmer hotel will call?

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It makes me horny?

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It's funny because I play a shirt yesterday because it

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had Dahmer on the back, and I didn't even put

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two and two together that that hotel was the hotel

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until the interview I did today upstairs and we had

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it as the backdrop.

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Oh yeah, it so heinous. There's way cooler stuff going

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on today at the Rave than there was in that

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room in that hotel exactly.

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Yeah. Do they have catering over there? Is that where

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catering is?

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Yeah? Yeah, they might be serving mystery meat over there.

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I know, right. So have you guys ever played this

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festival before?

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Yeah, we played the festival a couple of years ago,

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I think in twenty twenty three or twenty four, and

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we played in the small room and it was so

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packed that people couldn't get into the room. They were

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complaining later, so they threw us in a bigger room

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this year. It should be really fun.

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Oh, it definitely will be.

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It was a lot of fun last time.

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I'm sure that was.

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Fun because like I saw a violence last night in

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that room and it was insane. It was like it

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was like old school shows at like CBGB's or at

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the Troubadour or shit like that.

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Lots of seed things. Oh yeah, yeah, so it's funny.

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I just said in the last interview, I actually filmed

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some stage dive in I sent it to my youngest

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door and she's like, is that how you knocked out

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your front teeth? Because I climbed up a Marshall stack

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at like sixteen years old and dove and the crowd

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did a split while it's full swan oh in the air.

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Yeah, that'll do it.

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I've chipped a tooth from uh you know mospit happening

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right in front of me, and someone knocked into my

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mic when I was singing, and oh man gave me

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a good little chip. Well I didn't notice till like

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three days later. Really it hurt when it happened in

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the show, But you have your all the adrenaline and

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you're like whatever. I was brushing my teeth a few

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days later and I looked up in the mirror, like

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really inspected my mouth. I said, what the yeah good,

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what are you gonna do?

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And you're right the adrelling because when it happened, I

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hit the floor. I didn't feel a thing. Yeah, but

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then on the way to the hospital, like fifteen twenty

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minutes later or like, holy shit, that hurts.

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So what can we expect today? Here some havoc.

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We can expect havoc on stage.

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You're good, career.

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We're gonna I think we're gonna wreak it and we're

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gonna play some fast, tight, heavy metal, which is a

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way we like to do it.

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And I was listening to your newest song and it's

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one of your best songs ever.

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It's fucking bad ass.

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Best songs ever. That's a stretch, but thank you. Yeah,

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we've got some new music that's gonna be coming out.

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We should be releasing a full length by the end

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of this year. And I think we're gonna keep trickling

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out new songs as it approaches.

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So how you find a songwriting process or playing songs

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now compared to before, Like, what's the evolution been like

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for you guys.

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Well, we have a new guitar player now. His name

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is Brett Rekfortig, and he's a really amazing musician. He

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went to Berkeley and study jazz and he's a phenomenal

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guitar player and creative and he helped a lot with

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the writing on this new record. So that's been a

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big evolution is working with a different guitar player and

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somebody who like completely understands all the nuances and theory.

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So if we like dig ourselves into a musical hole,

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he can, like very creatively and cleverly get out of it.

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He understands arranging and how to switch keys, and he's

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a brilliant guitar player. So that's been really cool to

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work with. Yeah, that a real serious musician, you know.

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I've always worked with people who are serious, but like

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he's a next level He's one of those guys like

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I could turn around and play any chord anywhere on

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the neck and he'll know, oh, that's a G sharp

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minor AD nine like what.

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Well, And it's funny too because a lot of miss

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musicians wouldn't know those technical aspects of it. But I've

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talked to a lot of musicians from Berkeley and they

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are all like genius.

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So yeah, you have to be a shredder to get

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even get into the school, right, to even become a

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dropout of Berkeley. You have to be a good musician.

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Right. That's pretty good.

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Yeah, So what else is on horizon for Havoc after

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this festival and beyond besides the album?

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Yeah, we're on tour right now with kill Switch, Engage,

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machine Head, and Iron Reagan. We're doing that for a

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pretty much all the month of June, and then we

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go to Latin America for two weeks. We take a

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couple months off, and then we go to Europe in

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the fall, and then we'll be touring again later in

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the year. But I can't say what that is yet,

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but nice, we're gonna be real busy releasing a lot

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of new music, and then I think next year we'll

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get even more busy and maybe continue writing.

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And So do you have a favorite place in the

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world that you played in all your career to play?

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I think with a broad stroke, I could say Latin

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America because the audiences down there go absolutely insane. Yeah,

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like the craziest show you could imagine in the us

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like you were describing violence last night. Every show down

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there is like that. They go absolutely nuts. They love

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metal down there, and they get super rowdy and they'll

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make you feel like Iron Maiden or something. If you

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have like a guitar melody in your song, they'll be

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singing and chanting it like with your guitar parts, and

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it's something. It's something special. I love playing down there.

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You know what else's core about that is when you

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play in a country like that that English isn't their language,

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but yet they know all the words your songs and

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they know what it means. Yeah, it's they're not just

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singing it back to you that it's like they do

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it with heart.

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Yeah, and they have to do some research. But I

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think there's also we as English speakers get a little

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bit spoiled because the entire world consumes American and English

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speaking media. Yeah, Like most of the movies and stuff

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that go globally they're all in English, and all the

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TV shows they're in English. So a lot of people

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learn English I think from consuming television and movies and music.

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Well, that is the way to do it too.

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Like you know, when you study a foreign language, they

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tell you like watch movies.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean if we were stuck

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in in you know, Costa Rica for five years and

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everything was in Spanish and we had to read it

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with English subtitles, we'd probably learned Spanish way faster than

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we do sitting in a classroom and you know, freshman

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year at high school.

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It's so funny that you say that, because I go

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to Costa Rica all the time. Oh cool, And so

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that is what somebody told me there because I took

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Spanish for.

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Like seven years in school.

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Yeah, but they only teach you like the Spanish and

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Spain Jullion exactly, and nobody else speaks it.

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So but they say, watch.

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The novellas and you'll learn span how to converse in Spanish.

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Because yeah, you have to start.

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Thinking that way, you know, like it's hard when you

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translate it.

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And I feel like in a show like that too,

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a lot of the language would be fairly natural and

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common phrases. Yeah, there wouldn't be a lot of like

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high biological scientific jargon or something. It's all very practical

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language exactly.

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So what was that one moment in your life that

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you knew this is what you want to do?

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Watching Metallica live Shit Binging and Purge, and I had

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already started playing guitar, but then that made me double

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down on my efforts. And because I was watching that

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and seeing people lose their minds and it looked like

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Metallica was having so much fun on stage, I was

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like that, I want to figure out how to do that.

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That's what I want to do, and started writing songs

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and playing shows. And once started playing shows and like

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feeling the energy from crowds, enjoying what your fingers and

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your body and mind and voice are creating. Like that's

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a really cool feeling, I bet you. It feels very

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similar to when like somebody paints a motorcycle and with

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some custom stuff and then they get to step back

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and look at their work and somebody admires it and

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tells them, dude, that bike is amazing, that painte job

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is so cool. I'm sure it's the same kind of feel.

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You know, well, yeah, because you as an artist too.

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Usually ours are the most critical of themselves and confirmed

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we'll see, and then when people say that to you,

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it's like, oh wow, like even you know, doing anything artistic,

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like when somebody validates it, you know, Yeah, it would

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be a special feeling.

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It would be fun even if nobody was there to

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validate it. However, the validation of it makes it more fun.

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Yeah, totally. And it makes you feel like you're doing

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it right, you know. That's the way I think of it.

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It's like, yeah, and it's a big exchange of energy too,

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Like we get energy from the audience when they're enjoying it.

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We have a better time, and we play better and

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can headbing harder, and it's just a nice like cycle. Yeah,

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because it's a good exchange of energy. And I like

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having the outlet of music to yell and scream because

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it's a great like pressure release valve.

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No doubt, no doubt.

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I always talk about all the time, like music's the

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best therapy there is.

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Hell. Yeah, and you take mashpitz.

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I always tell people like thank God for the moshpitz,

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or I might kick killed or killed kick somebody's ass

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out on the streets. You never know, like we're talking

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about Dahmer, Like this is an outlet. This is an

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outlet for whatever is fucked up going on in your

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life or your head.

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Yeah, if you tried to do what people do in

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moshpits at the grocery store, you'd be under arrest very right.

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Exactly here is completely okay and welcomed and accepted.

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And we all help each other and pick each other up,

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and you know.

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It's like, there's this beautiful thing.

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It's a great thing.

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One story, good or bad in your whole musical career,

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what's the one that sticks out in your mind most?

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Oh man, let's see. But I would say the first

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time we ever played in South America. We played in

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Columbia at a free festival called rockyl Parque, and the

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Colombian government pays for it and it's a free festival,

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so there's a ton of people there. And it was

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the first time we ever played in Latin America, and

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it was the most people we'd ever played in front of.

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I think we played in front of like thirty thousand people,

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maybe a little more. And there was parts where they

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were chanting like it was a soccer game or football game,

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and like singing the words and stuff. It was really

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really something special. I'll never forget that. That was one

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of the coolest things I've ever done.

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That is cool and free. We need buy of those

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here in the States.

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Yeah, but we're too busy giving money to other places.

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So yeah, right, it was spending it on stupid shit exactly.

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That's a whole nother story. We could go another five

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hours on that.

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I know, we definitely could. And isn't it kind of

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I don't know, I kind of kind of bad and

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trippy that the songs that were written in the eighties

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could easily be just changed some of the names and

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the same songs in twenty twenty six.

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It blows my mind that, oh.

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Well, kinds of the songs specifically, are you talking about.

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Oh like, any of the thrash songs or metal songs

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that were like about government and what's going on, and

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songs about Reagan and songs about you know, I mean

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we're calling through this.

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We were talking about Iran in the eighties.

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Yeah, a lot of the it's all the same wars,

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just different names, like you said, exactly, And it's uh,

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it's the like one of the eternal struggles of a

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civilization is the desire for freedom and liberty and someone

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else trying to come in and push other people around.

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That is a tale as old as time, and I

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don't know if it'll ever go away, but that's something

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that I will always rage against because it matters a lot,

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and some people get some people get a little like

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bent out of shape, like really, you're talking about free

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them in liberty again, Like yes, it's kind of the

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most important thing in the world.

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Oh my god, that's so terrible.

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Oh yeah, it's so annoying that you're always talking about

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personal freedom and liberty and not wanting to be under

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someone else's dumb. It's really important to me. It matters

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a lot to a lot of people. So you know,

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I don't get sick of it because it's it's the

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eternal struggle of mankind and it's never going to go away,

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and ignoring it doesn't help it.

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Oh, no, doubt about it makes it worse, you know.

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And you know I always talk about like so many

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people that are you know, it's calling the assholes that

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are so worried about things that don't affect their life

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in any way, like oh totally, you know, like that

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you should give food to the hungry, like, and they

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make a big deal against it, you know, like how

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does that affect you? Are you not going to eat

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because somebody that doesn't have any food gets food?

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Yeah?

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One example there's a lot of crazy norms like that

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in our society that don't make any sense, and then

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there's a lot of things that would make sense that

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are illegal.

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Exactly exactly.

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I do have a solution for all the world's problems.

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My solution is we have one big music festival that

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everybody's required to attend and we just all go into

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mosh pit and work it out.

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That sounds pretty good, right. It's called Milwaukee Metalfest.

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There it is, and it's at the Havoc Show.

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So thanks a lot for being here and playing. I

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will definitely be at your set. It will be a

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lot of fun and it's great. Thanks for being on

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the Adventures of pipe Man.

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Yeah, thank you. Happy to be here.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man

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on w for CUI Radio.

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