June 7, 2026

EL (Christopher Elsten) Incite at Milwaukee Metal Fest - PipemanRadio Interview

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Pipeman speaks with EL (Christopher Elsten) Incite at Milwaukee Metal Fest. We discussed the festival. We also discussed their tour with Death Angel and Vio-Lence where Pipeman saw there show at Culture Room in Fort Lauderdale, FL recently.

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Hi, you have done too crue.

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Wow for you you. This is the pipe Man here

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on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio,

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and I'm here with l from Insight. What up nice?

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Here at Milwaukee Metalfest?

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Yes?

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Have you guys played here before? Only?

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But this is our first year.

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I have been bugging Jamie since he took it over

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put us in the game coach put us every year and.

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Here you are.

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We are stoked.

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Oh my god, it's a great festival. I love too.

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That's raining outside and we don't have to worry about it.

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That's pretty nice.

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Although, like I said, I've told you before, I did

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get caught out there getting some canoli's from a friend

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of mine.

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Well you gotta get the canoles man to get the

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good from.

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They're from Chicago, so they're super good.

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Nice. Well, I'm originally from New York, so I'd have

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to like test it to see because there's nothing like

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little Lily.

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And she's a legit Italian so she knows her Oh well,

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there you go.

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Then it's automatically approved. That's like automatic approval.

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Sapienza, that's a very Italian name, I would say, So

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she knows the stuff.

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There you go. So you guys, I caught you at

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the Culture Room in Fort Laurredelle too. What an awesome

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show there, Oh my god, And like all three of

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you are here at Milwaukee Metalfest too.

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Yeah, it's been awesome that show.

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I'm gonna say to this point, I would venture to

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guess that all the bands would say that was the

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show of the tour so far.

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You know, off the hook, I was just I was

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just talking to death Angel and they were saying how

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great it was. And I thought it was great, and

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I go to a lot of shows, but from the

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the perspective of the fan, oh my god, you guys

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fricking killed it. I was like, oh my god, that

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was so awesome.

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Yeah, we had a blast that night. Rare Form, Yeah

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we were, we were in it. It was awesome.

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So let's go way back.

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Okay, what.

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Yeah, there you go. What was it that was that

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moment in time that you knew this is what you

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should be doing.

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Oh my god, like playing metal?

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Yeah.

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Well, because I'm a dusty old fart, my dad took

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me to see Kiss, like og.

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A makeup kiss.

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I was like little little and that's when I'm like,

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I want to do that and then fast forward because

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I'm still a dusty old fart. The only time I've

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seen Metallica is when they opened for Ozzie when they

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were doing Master Puppets, and I saw Cliff Burton.

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Like, I need to do that.

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Wow.

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So yeah, and that was when.

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And you know what, it's funny you should say about

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Kiss first of all, because I lived at in Jersey

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and I was at the Jersey Shore. What was I

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I was like in grammar school. I think I was like,

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I don't know, first, second, third grade, I don't know,

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something something like that. And I was playing this Carnie

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game and you could win an album and I looked

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up and it was the original Kiss album and I

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was like, that's the one I want. And that started

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my whole journey to being here today, you know, like

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that was my first album ever, and then it just

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progressed from there.

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Heck, yeah, that's awesome.

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That's the benefit of people of our stage in life.

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It's like the metal heads now they don't have the

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same foundation we had, no you know.

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And I do like.

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That Vinyl has made such a strong comeback because I

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feel like now younger generation, I mean, they don't go

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to the record store per se. But all you know,

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bands are always offering stuff and on vinyl, and you know,

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I think a lot of kids are still doing that,

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like probably me and you like, oh my god.

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That covers sick. I'm buying that exactly.

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And well two of my to prove that, point two

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of my granddaughters, when it was their birthday, I was like, so,

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what do you want, Let's go get something. They wanted vinyl,

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both of them. I'm like, holy shit. Then I was like, well, no,

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wonder they want me by it? It was like what

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they the albums were like thirty eight dollars.

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I mean, yeah, that's kind that's the one downside. I

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think that it's kind of expensive. But like you know,

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when I was a kid, bands only put colored vinyl

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out if it was like some European special export in

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X sport. Yeah, and it was then it was like

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super expensive, and then you didn't want to play it.

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And now it's I love that it's like common.

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It's like no, there's like three color variations and black.

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And it's cool because you know what, there's nothing better

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than the on vinyl and the even the scratchiness and

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it's real and you have the mids. That's the thing

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I think the kids miss nowadays with digital there is

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no mids.

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And I was like reverting back to this. One of

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my favorite childhood memories.

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My mom, who is.

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Coolly shit, would like when certain records would come out.

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I would get home from school and they'd be sitting

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on the kitchen counter and I remember dropping the needle

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on Rain and Blood the first time they little, you know, hiss,

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pop bump, you know, and oh my god, nothing, I

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got goosebumps just now talking about it.

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There's nothing better than that.

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How about this? How about so? This is by some

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friends of mine that are in thrash metal bands that said,

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this is the first thrash metal song. But how about

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Fast was a shark when they were scratching the album.

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Yeah in the beginning, yeah, with.

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The little German folk song and yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

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and then the scratch.

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Yeah.

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A kid that I went to school with, I remember

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he made me a mixtape.

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I remember mixtapes.

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Oh yeah, he gave me a mixtape where one side

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was half of Haunting the Chapel, half of Kill Them All,

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and on the back was like a mixture of like

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a bunch of accept and Saxon and stuff like that,

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and that I remember it fast as a shark, and

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I'm like.

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Well, show my mind, check out this story. I went

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to see Ozzy Osbourne on New Year's Eve with Randy Rhodes.

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It was one of those things where I told my

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dad I was sleeping at my friend's house. He told

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his parents he was sleeping at my house. And we

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went to the show. And so when we get back

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I lived. There was a hill behind my house down

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to a lake, and so we were hiding down there

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so my dad would see and we were just gonna

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go up in the morning, like we were already there.

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And my next door neighbor comes out and I'm like,

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oh shit, and she goes she sees all the Ozzie

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Swick She's like, oh, you boys, were you at the

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Auzie show last night? And we're like yeah, and she goes,

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stay right there. I want to go get my husband

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and we're like, fuck, we're in trouble. Husband comes down

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and invites us up to the house. Turned out he

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was Ozzie's promoter, Oh day, and he brings us into

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his studio, which was wall of wall cassette tapes, pulls

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a cassette tape out of the Wall, hands it to

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me and says, listen, as this band isn't even in

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the United States yet. They'll be here in six months

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and they're going to be huge. It was restless and

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while hell yeah that tape like hell yeah, Like it

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was like wow. And I remember hearing that the first time.

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I'm like, oh my god, I've got some bangers on it,

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I know, right. And then I was just at Hell's

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Heroes a few weeks ago and Udo played it and

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I'm like, holy shit, like this made my whole decade.

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Hell yeah.

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And then you guys played a Culture Room with Death

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Angel and with Violence, and that to me was like

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being at those old school shows in the Bay Area

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in the eighties.

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Hell yeah.

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Well I was just telling I was telling their audio

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visual guy they got chewing with them. Like Mark Osageta.

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You know, he's this interesting kind of like bridge between

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like kind of like old school traditional metal like Priests

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and Deal and all that and into thrash because he

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incorporated a lot of that high scream stuff.

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Yeah, when you know.

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A lot of other thrash other than Joey Belladonna, Like

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they were like kind of the only two that were

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really doing that. Everybody else was trying to sound like

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a strangled cat or do the kind of punk bark,

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you know. And it's cool to see that he's taken

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such good care of himself or he's.

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A witch or something.

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He sounds just as good now as he did back

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in like nineteen ninety.

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Well, you know what's funny about that, because I sang

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thrash Mellow as a teenager, and I sucked because I

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had no technique, so I lost my voice. You know,

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sure doing that, you lose your voice just screaming and

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at your show. But while Death Angel was playing, I

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turned to who I was with and I was like,

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I was like, man, he still has the scream. And

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I'm like, and my friend goes, Now you know why

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Carrie King picked him? Because I said, Tom doesn't have

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that scream anymore. Yeah, you know, and like Tom's great,

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oh he's husband, but he can't like there's certain songs

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he can't do anymore.

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And that's what that's what I mean.

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Like, out of all his peers, he still has his pipes.

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You know, not a lot of those dudes, you know,

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heat deal can't say that Tom Mariah can't say that.

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Exactly, you know, none of them dudes.

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It's wild and Mark's just still like belt him out

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one hundred and ten percent.

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I love it.

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Yeah, it's awesome.

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So one story good or bad in your whole career

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of music may be specifically insight.

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Okay, what would you share of, like a crazy story.

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It could be crazy, it could be memorable, it could

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be good, it could be bad, it could be shit,

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whatever you want to be.

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Yeah, I wouldn't even know where to well, okay, this

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is kind of I just had told this to somebody

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the other day. So we were on tour and this

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would have been like twenty seventeen or eighteen.

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We were on tour six feet Under in Europe.

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Barnes always does the Christmas in Hell tour, and we were.

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It was like a second to last stop.

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And you know, people, if you don't know a lot

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of bands, you know, we don't get the luxury of

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showers and laundry and all this stuff, you know, or

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you got to really plan accordingly. And so I always

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have a set, show close and then walk around clothes.

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And my show clothes had been nasty. I hadn't I've

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been wearing them for like six days, six shows. We

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played a forty five minute set under hot light. So

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it's like nasty, crusty, stinky, you know, like pickles and feet,

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you know whatever. And I had my clothes out on

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I have him on a hangar and I had them

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out on this fence that was like fencing off the bus,

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you know, and somebody stole them.

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They stolen I.

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Mean the shirt I get because it was really cool.

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It was like this cool like gauntlet hand holding some

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tattoo needles because I'm a tattooer when I'm not meddling out.

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So it's from this tattoo supply company where I buy

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stuff from really cool art. So I understand stealing the shirt,

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but my pants and my underwear and.

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Well maybe it was a chick that stole the underwear.

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Hey, I don't know, but I gets your nose, I know, right, Yeah,

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it's but then, you know, I've had dudes asked me

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for my shirt lobby, you know, I've had to like

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change outside or whatever because you don't have dressing room, like, oh, please,

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gonna have your shirt, And I'm like no, Well, either

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if it's something I don't want to part with, or

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like I usually I'm like, dude, it's gross.

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Growth don't do it exactly.

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You can't even watch that shit anymore.

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No, it's so bad sometimes.

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What's your favorite thing about Milwaukee Metal Fest so far?

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Like I said, we haven't you know, this is our

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first time we did. Me and me and a couple

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of guys came down here last night to do the

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pre party thing watch Emir and Jost and all that.

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But since we're just getting going here today, I really

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like just all the fucking people. You know, you see

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people all watch life from all over the place. At

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our meet and greet, there was a guy that flew

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from Central Mexico to.

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Come to this today. Wow, you want to make sure.

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He got here for our meet and greet, which is

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very flattering because I was feel weird like autographing stuff.

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But I like all the people. Everybody is a really

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cool vibe. Everybody's like having a good time. Just you know,

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a really good mix of bands playing this weekend. It's

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like something for everybody, no matter what canind of a

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subgenre of metal you're into, It's there's something for everybody.

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It's really cool, it is.

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I'm super excited to play because, like I said, I've

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been wanting to do this forever.

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Well, I can't wait for your set for sure too.

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And last thing I wanted to since you brought it up,

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tell me about the tattooing.

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What would you like to know?

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Well, what got into that, what's your specialty? And how

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can people find out about getting the tattoo from you?

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Well, I was in the third grade and I was

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at a Fourth of July biker party and I watched

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a dude get a tattoo. This guy had a travel

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kit in a suitcase that had his power supply and

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machines and ink.

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And all that.

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And I watched this guy get an eagle, you know,

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traditional style American eagle in the kitchen when I'm eating

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a hotdog, and that just it was like kind of

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it was in this same line. I saw a kiss

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and then I saw this, and I'm just like, that's

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my life right there. And you know, I just learned

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about as I got older and finally got an apprenticeship

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a couple of years out of high school and did

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all that, and I've been a tattooer for almost thirty years.

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And you know, it's like I'm one of the few

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probably guys in metal, like, I don't mind my day job.

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There you go. Well, it's it's kind of a related

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good day job, that it is.

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And I'll bring my stuff out on tour every now

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and then. You know, I have.

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Clients that have moved away, and as long as I

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have a clean spot to work, you know, I'll lace

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them up.

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See what we gotta do is we gotta get Danny

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Wimmer to have you guys on the Incarceration Festival and

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then you do tattooing too. Do you know about that festival?

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I've heard of it.

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Yes, Oh my god, that Shaw Shank Prison.

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Put the word in for your boys.

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I'm playing it out there right now.

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Please Danny hit us up. We would love to do it,

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and I'll fucking tattoo well to night.

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There you go. That would be such a great pitch

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for him to use, like one of the bands is

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going to be back there tattooing.

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Yeah, oh my god, I would love that.

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There you go, So I would love let's make that happen, Danny. Yes, Danny,

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please call your boys. Well, you guys rock. You killed

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it in Fort Laurde. You're gonna kill it here at

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Milwaukee Metal Fest and thanks for being on the adventures

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of pet Man.

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Pipe man, pipe man, doing what a pipe can.

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Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.

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Thank you, Thank you for listening to the adventures of

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Pateman on w for CUI Radio.

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