Aug. 29, 2024
PipemanRadio Interviews Heinous Exsanguination
Heinous Exsanguination is a 2 man internet band combining Slam and Brutal Death Metal to create a relentless, nasty, groovy sound. With Mitchell behind the music/production and JP behind the vocals, Heinous Exsanguination looks to make their mark on...
Heinous Exsanguination is a 2 man internet band combining Slam and Brutal Death Metal to create a relentless, nasty, groovy sound. With Mitchell behind the music/production and JP behind the vocals, Heinous Exsanguination looks to make their mark on the new age of Slam.
Heinous Exsanguination - Vile Rotting Mass (Ft. Cephalotripsy)
Released on: 2024-08-14
The Stench of Decaying Flesh September 6th
Gorehouse Records
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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our next guest who has some killer music and a
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killer band name that I was like at first, I'm like, oh,
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I'm really gonna butcher this, so we'll see. So let's
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welcome to this show, Mitchell from Hans Segna. See. I
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did it exenguination perfect.
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Hey, how's it going everybody? And thanks Stein for having me.
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I really appreciate glad to be here.
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My pleasure. Yeah, we were just talking about that before
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the interview. I was like, let me tell you how
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I think it is, and you tell me if I'm
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butchering it. And I did it perfect the first time.
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And that's the problem. Even when I do voiceovers, commercials
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stuff like that, it's always the first take that if
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I get it right, I get right and it's done.
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If I have to go to a second take, then
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sometimes it takes like fifteen takes.
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Oh yeah, definitely, yep, yep, when you got to when
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you have to perform an actual like you did it
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right before perfectly, and I was like, yep, you got it.
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And then when you actually perform then it something in
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your mind gets tripped up and you're like, have a
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little brain.
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Fart, and it reminds me, okay, so you'll be able
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to relate to this. I was just watching I think
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it was yesterday or the day before, a video about
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tom Riah from Slayer and they're talking about Angel of
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Death and the screen he does oh ry and basically
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the first time he did when they weren't even they
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weren't recording the song that they were just looking for
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a scream that would work, and the first scream was
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perfect and he never was able to repeat it ever again. Wow.
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Yeah, yeah, I know exactly love Slayer, I know exactly
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what you're talking about and that. Yeah, that's crazy because
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I've seen them live a few times, and I think
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the last time I saw them, I don't I think
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he wasn't even doing anything at the time for that song,
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you know, because they were starting it was this was
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probably twenty fifteen or something, so they were starting.
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To, you know, get up there.
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And but but the few times I did see him
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before that, when he did do the scream yep, it
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did not sound like the like the record.
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I know, right, And they did luckily the producer luckily
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recorded it when it was just like a practice scream.
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Because that's twenty years all right, And you know, I
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went to You're Gonna Love This. I went to their
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first show ever.
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Oh wow, where was that at?
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I can't even remember. It was either the Woodstock or
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the Troubadour or one of those places. Yeah, yeah, it's
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like such you know, listen, if you remember the eighties,
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in the early eighties Sunset Strip, La days, you weren't
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really there.
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Yeah, but.
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He used to scream a lot in the beginning live,
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you know. And that's what I noticed at the end
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is he wasn't screaming anymore. It was just the grow yeah.
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Yeah, And it was kind of and even the other
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other songs that they do, it's kind of the energy
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wasn't quite as there as like, because you know, I've
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seen all those I've watched all those early Slayer live
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videos and yeah, it's a lot of a lot of
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energy and it's like some of it's like kind of
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similar to like modern screaming today.
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You know, right, and me personally he's my friend too,
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But Dave Lombardo that that to me that defined Slayer.
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Yep. I agree, yep.
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One of my best friends is a huge Slayer fan
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and he's the he's the same way.
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So that that that makes the.
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Dave made the you know, the like connected it all together.
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Well was that double bass okay? Because there was no
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double bass at the time, right, Dave brought the punk
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into it, so did Jeff. Like Dave and Jeff were punks,
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and Tom wasn't even really a metal head before being
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in Slayer, and then Carry was the true.
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Metal head, right, yep, that makes sense.
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So yeah, so now what I want to say is
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about your band. Okay, how do you have I'm always
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amazed by this two people making such a full sound.
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Man, it's really just the technology that we have today.
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And I talk about this all the time, like to
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people that ask me or you know, just different conversations
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with producers musicians, even like now in twenty twenty four.
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I started doing audio stuff in two thousand and eleven,
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twelve somewhere around there, even around then and then even
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in like you know, twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen, the
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stuff you I mean, you could do like two man
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projects like this, but it was it was a lot
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harder days. There's just so many, so many different tools
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that you can use to like you can make a
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full full production off your laptop with a microphone, you
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know what I mean. Wow, and a lot of and
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it takes some skill though, Like I mean, a lot
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of people are you know, they're like, oh, it's it's
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just it's so easy to do that, Like it's to
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actually do it right, it's you still got to know,
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you know what you're doing.
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I love that you just said that because I want
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to expand on that, especially for all the gatekeepers out there.
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They're like, well, if you're not actually playing the instrument,
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then you're not really a musician. And it does. Listen.
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I learned my lesson once when I went to a
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festival to cover it and they had a DJ there.
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I'm like, I don't get why people I was one
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of those gatekeepers. I don't get why people go to
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a live DJ show. Just go to the nightclub, Okay,
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like that's my concert. But then I got it when
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I when I was there and I got the idea
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of it, and if you did try to do these
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things yourself, just like people with podcasting, like I run
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a whole network here and I laugh at the DIY
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people that watch a video and think they know how
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to do it and think that's all there is to it.
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And that's that's the point I want you to expand on,
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is how you really do have to know what you're
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doing totally. Yeah.
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Yeah, as you were saying that, I was thinking, so
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what we do the live parts of the Heinous Exingguination
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recordings is all the guitar I do, all I record
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and write all of the guitar, and then the vocals
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are also obviously you know.
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Gun in real time as well.
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The drums and the bass are all programmed though, But
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then that my next point on that is so the drums,
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I mean you have to I'm not I don't call
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myself a drummer, but I can play drums, you know,
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I don't. I call myself a guitarist and a producer.
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Drums is kind of like my secondary thing. But you know,
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if I didn't know how to play drums or just
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know like what that rhythm feels like it's very easy
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to program drums to a song and then it just
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sounds like a straight up computer because you know, if
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you know, if you have a little bit of background
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in the actual thing, then you can you know how
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it's supposed to sound. You know, you can get it
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to where you can where it's programmed, and you can
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make it do crazy double bass that is probably not
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possible in real life, but you can still make it
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like pretty you know, to where it doesn't feel like
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a straight up drum machine.
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It's too.
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Like when you program the bass, you know, you have
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to I have a little bit of background and like
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music theory and stuff, so I mean you have to
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know like what notes, you know, what notes to punch
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in on the on the program, the different velocities, the
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length of each note. Like you know, there's a you
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can't you don't just go in and you know, type
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stuff in and oh there it is. That's like the
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longest part to me of making these songs, too, is
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programming the bass and drums.
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That's like the.
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The the part that it takes the most time for sure,
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because I can sit there and record slam risks for forever,
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you know, but Yeah, Programming the stuff is the hardest part,
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I would.
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Say, yeah, And you definitely have to You have to
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know the music itself. You also have to know how
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to program. You also have to know the sound engineering
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part of it, because you know, if you make it
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even as simple as the wrong volume, it's not going
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to sound right. And you struck a point with that
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I relate to when you're talking about sound like a
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computer with AI going on right now. Okay, it's pretty
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heavy in my industry too, And I've checked out certain
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AI like solutions for doing voiceovers for a commercial, right
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and I don't like any of them because they don't
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sound like a human being. However, that's just the stock
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stuff for the an average person that goes and picks that.
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But for a professional like me, I am able to
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take that AI and manipulate it and customize it to
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where it does sound human and not a computer. And
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I think that's the big difference between a pro and
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an amateur. An amateur experiments with it and kind of
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relies on the technology, where the pro uses the technology
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but relies on their abilities to make the technology better.
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One hundred percent. Yeah, Yeah, And like as you're saying, that.
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You know, I've recorded drums live drums a handful of
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times in the past, and I mean, if we really
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wanted to, we could, you know, we could do everything live.
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It would just be a much bigger, you know, a
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much bigger venture, and it would cost a lot more
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money and require a few more people. But yeah, that's why,
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that's why I think it's so cool that these days
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you can just have like me and JP, just two
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people making music like this. And it's very common in
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this in the slam death metal, slamming, brutal death metal
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world to have like a one man or two man project.
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Like that, you know. I love every time you say slam. Okay,
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I go back to old school, before there was a
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word called boshing, and we called it slam dancing right right, slam,
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And now it's got its own genre.
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Uh huh yeh yeh yeah.
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And I really just so I grew up on like
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classic rock and stuff, and then I got into like,
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you know, metalcore and early early death core stuff. I
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really have only been into this slam genre for since
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about twenty twenty or so, so only about three four years.
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So I'm I'm newer.
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I mean, I'm a metal head, but I'm I'm new
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er to the slam side of things.
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So maybe tell the ions because they might not know
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because it's not a term used a lot nowadays. So
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what differentiates slam from other types of death metal, Well.
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So slam slam, I would say, is basically it's slowed
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down and in like its truest sense. Like I believe
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a lot of people say suffocation invented slam. A lot
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of people say internal bleeding invented slam. But either way,
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early nineties death metal stuff, it was the parts where
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in the death metal songs because it would be fast, fast,
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blast beats and stuff, and then they would break it
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down to like a not a breakdown, but kind of
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like a groovy and most of the riffs they have
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like this kind of flow. It goes like done done,
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dun dune dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
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dun dun dun, dune dune done. So that's what that's
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what defines slam for me, is like the that pattern
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and also like the use of the vocals a lot
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of the time, it's not a not like a metalcore
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or death core type of vocal it's more of a
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sounds sometimes like a frog or a cricket. That's and
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and that's another part of slam too, is I view
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the vocal as just another another instrument, you know. Yeah,
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so it all kind of combines together instead of where
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most music, like we were just talking about Slayer, like
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that scream, you know, like, yeah, you have music going
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on behind it, but that's that scream is like the
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main yeah point right there. And in most music, you know,
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like most popular music, the vocal is the is.
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The lead thing.
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But for my thinking with slam, it's like I said,
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it's just that one pattern, obviously with a bunch of
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different variations and stuff, but centered around that and just
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kind of everything works together to make like a very heavy,
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