July 28, 2026
Alien Ant Farm Performs at Inkcarceration 2026 at Shawshank Prison - PipemanRadio Interview
The conversation focused on the journey of Alien Ant Farm, touching on their live performance at Inkcarceration, the lead vocalist’s personal growth and sobriety, the challenges and rewards of a decades-long music career, and what lies ahead for the band. Several personal anecdotes illuminated the ups and downs of life on the road, the cultural push for partying in music circles, and how sobriety reshapes passion and presence on stage.Main Topics Covered
- Alien Ant Farm's performance and experience at Inkcarceration
- The realities and pressures of touring and the music lifestyle
- Sobriety: motivations, challenges, and impact on creativity
- Balancing career longevity and artistic fulfillment
- Upcoming projects and band milestones
- The importance of introspection and reinventing joy in music
- The discussion explored what it’s like to go straight from the stage to interviews, especially in challenging conditions like extreme heat 00:44.
- A key theme that emerged was the evolution of the Incarceration festival, noting its massive expansion and bigger crowds since previous years 02:09.
- One concept discussed was the motivation behind getting sober. The journey wasn’t prompted by a dramatic “bottom” but by fatigue with apologies and the need to show up authentically for loved ones 02:38.
- The conversation focused on the tension between the rock culture's celebration of excess and the decision to step away from it for personal well-being 04:16.
- Several points were raised, including hobbies outside music: crafting bioactive enclosures for chameleons, building insect cages, and making jewelry boxes for moths 05:44.
- The discussion explored how performing sober brings a new level of anxiety but also a deeper sense of care and responsibility for the art and audience 06:46.
- Anecdotes about stage personas and wild stories from bandmates highlighted the duality of fun and regret often associated with substance use 07:29.
- A key theme that emerged was the push to continue touring internationally, finish a new record with notable producer Howard Benson, and stay connected to authentic motivation rather than simply “filling the calendar” 09:36.
- The importance of self-reflection and remembering the passion for music that started the journey was emphasized 10:44.
- “I come out here to do this, so I’m glad to do it... I’m happy that there’s a curiosity for our band. We’re going on 30 years now of trekking around the world and the country…” 01:02
- “I was a good, I was a cool loving dad as a drunk too, but I’m just a better, way more present dude, you know, when I’m focused and there, you know.” 03:22
- “In the music business, debauchery is celebrated, bro. It’s almost like, come on, you got to have a drink with us… and when you’re 22, that’s pretty cool. Then 23, then 33, then 40, you’re like, well, hold on a sec, I’m supposed to get off this bus, bro.” 04:16
- “There’s a lot of it sometimes where I feel like we take shows on to fill that calendar, and then halfway through it, I’m like, what am I doing out here kind of thing. That’s where that sobriety thing kicks in.” 10:35
- “15-year-old you would have been freaking the hell out about all of this stuff that you’re complaining about. You’d have slapped yourself right now, bro.” 10:53
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- Anthology Record: Pre-orders available for their first anthology record on vinyl 11:36
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Hi, you have done to censure.
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Wow for you.
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Your This is Pipeman here on the Adventurers pipe Man
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W four c Y Radio at incarceration and I'm here with.
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Dryden I sing for alien Ant Farm bro.
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Yes, and you were the background of my last interview.
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Yeah. We literally just got off stage. I wiped the
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sweat off my curls and got my buns over here
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to come shot with you.
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Yeah.
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You know what, that always impresses me more than a thing,
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because especially it's hot, it's gonna be out here and
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you are up there giving it your all and then
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you don't even take a break and come over here
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and talk to us.
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So that makes you a badass.
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Oh, I appreciate dude. It's it's cool. You know. I
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come out here for to do this, so I'm glad
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to do it. I'm happy that there's a curiosity for
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our band. You know, we're going on thirty years now
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of trucking around the world in the country and so
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have getting to talk to people like you that are
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still interested. I'm down for it.
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Well, you guys put on badass show. You have badass views.
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I can now you're in prison. What got you incarcerated
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in prison.
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Damn, dude, There's been many things I've done in the
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past that I you know, that could have got me there,
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me too, stupidity. I was. I was talking to homegirl
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over here about She's like, have you been here before?
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And I was like, yeah, about eight years ago, but
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I was getting hammered back then. I'm five years sober now,
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so it feels like the first time. I mean, I
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have memories of year from last time, but not many.
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I was partying pretty hard.
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Well you know what, dude, that was before DWP took
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it over. Actually I saw you that year and like,
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what a changed too?
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Right?
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You may not remember much, but it's so much bigger,
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right it is.
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When I walked to grounds this morning, I kind of
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was just doing my little steps, getting in my steps,
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going around the perimeter, and it's pretty massive, dude. Surprisingly,
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the prison itself is smaller from what I remembered it
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being this huge, massive thing, but the actual crowd in
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the grounds are huge. Dude. It's cool.
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So, if you don't mind me asking, since you brought
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it up, what was the impetus, the final impetus that
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made you go sober?
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Oh my gosh, you know, there wasn't no like bottom,
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I guess, you know, just tired of being tired, you know,
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and waking up. Who did I text last night and
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say something crappy to or what kind of like round
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of apologies am I going to have to make this
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morning for my behavior in the restaurant? Or you know
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what I mean. There was totally there was a lot
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of those, dude. And I would or I would literally
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like look at my phone and I would like delete
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conversations before I read them, like in some weird way
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in my mind, like they didn't happen if I didn't
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see him. So there was, you know, just a little
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a little bit of that. My kids were still really young,
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and I just thought, you know, let's let's take a
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left turn here. You know, I was look good. I
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was a cool, loving dad as a drunk too, But
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I'm just a better way more present dude, you know
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when I'm focused and and there you know, I'm present.
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Well as somebody that had a dad that was a
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drunk at a very entertaining one, but also sometimes like.
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Yeah, that's the switch can go off even on a
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good person. You know, your dad, he loves you. And
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then all of a sudden, you're like, who is this guy? Dude,
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He's a there's a demon in my living room.
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No doubt, no doubt, and he's possessed exactly.
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Yeah, reference to the possessed shirt pipe man's wearing it.
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And you know, well, it is interesting because there are
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times where you think you're cool being that way, but
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now came out you're sober.
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Yeah, look you're looking back. It's cringey. And you know,
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like you said, there there's like a season for it,
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you know what I mean. And you know, in the
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music business, you know, debauchery is celebrated. Bro, It's almost like,
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come on, you gotta have a drink with us. We
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gotta have a drink with a singer for Alien l Farm,
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we gotta have a drink with the singer for Possessed.
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We gotta have a drink with the guitar player from
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Limp Biscuit, or you know, on and on, you kind
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of fall into that little like, yeah, this is like
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kind of my job, you know, to go out and party,
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and when you're twenty two, that's pretty cool, and then
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twenty three, then thirty three, then forty, like, well, hold
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on a sec I'm supposed to get off this bus
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bro right, and some people wake up and it's almost
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in a weird way, kind of too late. You know,
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I don't know, but I just didn't want to. I
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went too many seasons, brow too many seasons.
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See, and you sound like to me, you sound excited
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that you're sober, and not everybody would feel that way.
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Well, I have my days where it is boring in
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a weird way. Or I got to find my passion
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of for for you know, whatever it might be. You know,
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reinvigorate myself with through music, through woodworking, through my love
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of animals and my love for my children and my wife. Dude,
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it's like I'm not a godly man. So I got
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to find this stuff. Got to find these extracurriculars and
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delve into them, you know, and not try not to
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be a life was better when you were a maniac,
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you know, it was more exciting or something.
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You know.
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No, Now, man, what's your favorite wood carving you've done?
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Well, I don't do any wood carving, but I've done
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I do like, I love panther chameleons, a specific breed
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of chameleon, and I make like these bioactive enclosures. So
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I just make like these really cool little kind of
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cages for like prayingmantis, or I just trained these intricate
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little jewelry boxes that I can put some beautiful moth
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inside of it or something I don't know.
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Cool.
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And so now do you feel a lot better on
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stage with being sober?
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Yeah, I'd have to say I never got really, I
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never drank on stage, even when I was getting hammered.
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That might have saved my life. At least I had
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a I would always wait till after show. You didn't mean.
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I wasn't lackadaisical and didn't give a crap even in
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the daytime or before the show. But yeah, I think
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I feel, you know, there's a weird like I get.
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I get my nerves all over again when I didn't
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used to, and get a tremendous anxiety at times I
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didn't know I had such such anxiety. So that's someth
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that's a little bit of a battle. But yeah, it
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almost in a weird way, like makes me feel like
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I like I care, you know what I mean, I
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really care about it. I want to do good. I
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don't want to embarrass my band or my elf, and
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we want to put on a good show or you know.
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I love hearing that.
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So my head former head engineers station only because he
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passed away a few years ago.
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Sorry about that.
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Yeah, thanks. But he was a musician and a singer
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and we would I would always support his shows. So
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he would always have to pregame, like we go to
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the bar down the street for him, the pregame before
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he would go to the bar. He was playing that
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and he would have two sets and they were two
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different people.
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First set his name was Chad.
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The first set was Chad and the second set was Brad.
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And that's when Brad kicked in.
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And yeah, I mean there were times like his duo
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partner she couldn't perform one night, and I, you know,
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I was I was babysitting them, and then I I
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was baby saying Brad and I had to go home
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something do with my kids. And then I get a
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call from her and she's like, oh, dep you gotta
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go back. Chad got up on top of the speakers
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and he's saying sweet Home Alabama five times in a row.
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Oh my gosh, once once. It's too many, right, I'm
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just kidding.
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So so to your point before, like, yeah, it's like
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part of it's fun and then part of it's not
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so fun when you think.
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Back exactly, well, I would have sang it six times
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and then I would have freaking thrown the monitors into
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the swimming pool and electrocuted some lady. And you know,
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maybe maybe maybe Brad and I could have been partners
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or I don't know.
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I know right, he was like the most entertained, funny
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drunk I ever made in my life.
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Summer assholes. Some are cool.
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I was an asshole. I was cool too, man, That's
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what I said. Like once the switch goes off and
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all of a sudden, you're like, wake up in the morning,
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like what happened? Why is everyone pissed at me? You know?
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And they're like, dude, because you've freaking pete on all
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the cutlery man or whatever.
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Chad used the pee, uh people's cars that it's friends.
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And then there was one friend of us. He used
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a pee on her foot.
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Oh my gosh.
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So I'm just making you feel good.
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You're like, don't you have to wait for a sting
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rate a sting maybe before you whip your dog out
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and piss on my foot?
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Bro?
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Right, Well, I gotta tell you you kick dass here incarceration,
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So chairs now ahead of good time.
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You've done something right, for sure.
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I'm trying, brother, I'm trying.
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And that's why you're gonna have to continued longevity. Hell yeah,
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what else is on the path on the horizon.
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Well, we're we're leaving for Europe in about four days
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for a month, come back here in the States, do
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another month. We're about three quarters of the way done
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with a new record produced by Howard Benson, who's done
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a lot of big records. And yeah, we're gonna see
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if we can, you know, scribble in another chapter for
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alien Al Farm, and hopefully there's some curiosity there for
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the band. It seems like we can. We have some
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good shows still, man, So while there's curiosity there, I'll
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keep doing it. If it feels if it feels lame
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or forced, then I might have to exit and go
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go uh, trim trim the trim the lily pads in
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my coy pond and get get rid of that algae
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that's being a pain in the ass.
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See.
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I love that attitude though, because if you're going to
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be an artist, you have to be the artist, not
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somebody just going through the motion.
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Right, Well, there's a lot of it sometimes where I
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feel like we take shows on to fill that calendar,
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and then halfway through it, I'm like, what am I
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doing out here? Kind of thing, and I just where
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that sobriety thing kicks in and I'm like, find your
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love for this, dude, or get out because it's it
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can be soul sucking in a way. And then at
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the same time, I go, dude, fifteen year old, you
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would have been freaking the hell out about all of
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this stuff that you're complaining about. You had to have
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slapped yourself right now, bro, you know.
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See that's cool.
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Well, the dressing room's tiny, and the a see doesn't work.
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You know, you're young, You're like, who cares? We're playing
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a rad show, dude, or whatever of it. You know,
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grumpy old dryding gets in there and wondering what the
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Know, at least I know, you know, I always kind
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of check myself.
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You know, are there any festivals you're playing when you
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go over to Europe?
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There are I'm trying to think of our calendar. I
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wish I could rip them off right now and tell you,
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but I don't. I don't. I don't have my calendar
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is staring at me.
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And you know what, that's good. People have to go
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to your website.
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There you go find us on Instagram obviously, there's the
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way to go Alien Outfarm dot com, Alien out farmstore
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dot com. We just we're just taking pre orders right
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