July 28, 2026
Earshot Performs at Inkcarceration 2026 at Shawshank Prison - PipemanRadio Interview
The conversation focused on the return of Earshot to the festival scene, mental health in the music industry, and lessons learned from years of touring and recording. Set against the historic backdrop of a prison and referencing the Shawshank Redemption, the discussion explored how community and authenticity shape both the personal and professional aspects of a musical career.Main Topics Covered
- Performing at Incarceration Festival and its unique atmosphere
- The impact and necessity of hiatuses in creative careers
- Mental health, burnout, and finding joy in music again
- Challenges of the music business versus the love of music itself
- The role of authenticity and writing music for oneself
- Community and connection within music festivals and rock culture
- Coping skills and personal development outside of music
- The evolution of music promotion with streaming platforms
- The discussion explored the surreal experience of performing at a historical prison, adding excitement due to its association with the Shawshank Redemption and unique festival energy 00:19.
- Several points were raised, including the impressive turnout for Earshot's early slot at the festival and the well-organized, though chaotic, festival feeling 01:48.
- A key theme that emerged was the sense of belonging and family found within festival and rock communities, contrasting outside perceptions of mosh pits with their actual camaraderie and support 08:53.
- The conversation focused on Earshot’s multi-year hiatus, the reasons behind it, and the rejuvenation felt upon returning to the stage 02:50.
- Recharge, mental health challenges, and rediscovering passion were at the center of this break 03:29.
- One concept discussed was balancing the joy of creating and performing against the difficulties of the industry 04:08. "You have to love making music more than you hate the music business," was presented as a mantra for longevity 04:31.
- There was considerable emphasis on writing music you love rather than chasing hits, with advice for new artists to focus on authenticity 09:55.
- The discussion highlighted how listeners apply their own meanings to songs and the drawbacks of dictating a song’s specific meaning to an audience 16:09.
- The conversation explored adopting coping strategies such as focusing on what you can control and developing self-awareness through personal development and coaching 11:03.
- A key theme was eliminating the word "should" from criticism and self-talk, replacing it with "could have" to foster growth instead of conflict 12:47.
- "You have to love making music more than you hate the music business." 04:31
- "Write what you love and do the best you can." 15:17
- "None of this shit is in my control. I'm just staying in my lane, doing what I do." 10:51
- "Music's the best therapy, the best uniter, especially this genre." 08:46
- "If artists aren't having fun playing up there, what are you doing in this business?" 04:41
- "You could have shoulda all over yourself." 12:45
- "The best songs also the audience puts their own meaning to, right? They just have to feel." 15:35
- Earshot Website: earshotband.com
- Social Media: @EarshotBand across platforms
- Streaming: Find Earshot on Spotify, Apple Music, and other major services. Following Earshot on these platforms will alert listeners to new music and local tour dates.
- Upcoming Shows: Dates to be announced; check website and socials for updates.
- The discussion explored parallels between athletes and musicians regarding the value of stepping back to refocus.
- Several points were raised about the ways streaming platforms now integrate tour dates and how that aids both artists and fans 18:09.
- There was a playful conversation about running for president and satire around election choices, underlying the desire for unity through music rather than politics 07:07.
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Hi, you have done to censure? Wow for you young
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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man
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W four C Y Radio and I'm here.
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With well Martin Fremireshot.
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How are you.
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I'm good, little sweaty, but good.
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Welcome to prison.
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I know I've never you know, I've never been to
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an actual prison, and I think it's really cool because
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I love the movie Shawshake Redemption. Me too, man, It's
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like one of my favorite movies of all time. So
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it's really cool to be here at this location and
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play a rock show. I think that's really awesome.
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You know what, I do festivals all over the US, UK, Europe.
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My youngest stars should always call me. So you're excited
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to go to this festival. I'm like, well, I love it.
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It's a lot of fun. I don't know if excite
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it's the word and when you're doing it every weekend.
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But the first time I did this interview and this
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uh in prison, this uh incarceration, I called from a
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prison yard and I'm like, I'm on the prison yard
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of Shawshank. Now I'm excited.
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I mean, it's history, right, I mean that movie I
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think won a bunch of Grammys.
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It's one of the most iconic movies ever.
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Love it.
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And now you gotta do the tour.
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And now we're here. We haven't done the tour yet.
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We're gonna do the tour. But this is the first
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time we've played Incarceration and we had a great time.
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It's our first time, so we played a little early,
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but we're looking forward to coming back again. And great crowd.
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Yeah, did blow your mind, okay that you're playing this early. Yeah,
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And there's that kind of crowd out there.
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It was. There was a lot more people than I
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expected would be that early, So kudos to the festival
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and to the people that came out early. Just a
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really awesome layout. The whole thing, you know, very well
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run organized. For the most part of me, it's chaotic,
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but it's organized chaos.
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Yeah. And behind you in the interview is the the
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warden's widow.
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Yeah, I know, not the most attractive thing.
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Well, yeah, she might eat you during the interview. I'm
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not sure.
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It's like she's gonna come eat me.
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And they have this thing called Blood Prison which is
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down in the basement, which is the Haunted tour really,
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and the characters are gonna haunt you but it is
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also really haunted, so you might not know if it's
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the characters or a real ghost. Gotcha, Okay, So I
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hope they like your music.
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I hope so too, you know, because if they don't
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all turn them into one.
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That's the key right there, That's what we do. So
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is this your first Danny Wimmer Festival?
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It is, it is, and it's it's so crazy. I mean,
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we to be fair, we stepped away for about a
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dozen years before we reactivated, so you know, I remember
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right before we took a hiatus. I remember when you know,
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Danny was first starting to do these things, and he'd
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called me up and asked me if if we were
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interested in being a part of it, and we just
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we were already coming off the road at that time.
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And and and we didn't do anything for many years
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after that, So we could have been on them earlier,
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probably had we not taken the hiatus. But I'm glad
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that he had us on and brought us out and
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looking forward, like I said, looking forward to doing many
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more of these.
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Sometimes hiatus is needed, right to recharge.
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Yeah, I needed to break I mean things. We had
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a pretty rough go there for a few years and
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a lot of things happened really fast forwards at the beginning,
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you know, between our first and second records we had,
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we had a lot of great success that happened, and
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it was just it's it's tough. It takes a mental
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toll on you eventually, and and you know, things go
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sideways when you're that busy. Yeah, and that much going on,
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and I just for my own mental sanity needed to
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just take a break. I wasn't. I wasn't loving it
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as much.
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And if you're not loving it, yeah, the industry, Yeah,
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I wasn't.
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I wasn't loving it. I love playing music, I love
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writing music, I love performing. I hate the business that
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hasn't changed. But I heard her will never will well.
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I heard her. So when we were making our latest record,
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human Ing, we made it with Johnny Kay, and we
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were in Nashville and we went out to lunch and
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someone recognized us and they came up and we're talking
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to us, and he asked Johnny Kay, and he said,
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what do you guys think, Like, what's what's the secret
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to staying in this business as long as you both have?
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And Johnny Kay said, well, you have to love making
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music more than you hate the music business. And I went, wow,
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that's it, absolutely right, the.
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Perfect thing, because like I always talk about, if artists
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aren't having fun playing up there, sure, what are you
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doing in this business? Because there aren't even rock stars anymore?
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And there's no way like that in these big checks
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from the record label and we still have all the
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ship part of the business, right. I remember being a
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teenager in LA in the eighties and I was very
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involved in the business. Knew all the bands, and that's
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what I was gonna do until I saw the back
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end and when I was backstage and look at what
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these record labels were doing with other band friends of mine, Like,
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it's not as glamorous as everybody thinks. It's like fuck this.
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Sometimes it is, sometimes it is, but you know, there's
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a reason why A C. D C penned the song.
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It's a long way to the top. If you want
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a rock and roll it's it's it's tough getting up there,
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you know, And even when you get up there, it's
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still tough.
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You know.
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There's a lot more that goes up there, a lot
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more pressure, right, and once you're up there, there's still
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the pressure. So you know, I learned that, you know,
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the first handful of years of our career, and and
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it did. It took a toll on me eventually, but
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you know, I had to get back to loving it
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again more than I hated the business.
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So playing here, I think incarceration make you.
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Love it absolutely like I love. I love seeing the
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other bands, I love seeing all the I mean, this
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is a community really if you think about it, Yep,
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that's what this is, and that's what we need. That's
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that's more than ever where we are in the world
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right now. We need more community together.
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I have an idea to cure all the world's problems
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that I talk about. We need to just create one
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music festival that the whole world is required to attend.
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No political leaders are allowed, they're banned, yes, and everybody
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just gets in the mosh pit and we.
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Work it all out exactly exactly. I mean, like we
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don't need guns and bombs and missiles and all this just.
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How many things I've worked out that I didn't kick
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the shit out of somebody in real life from going
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into the pit.
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You know your idea, I'll vote for you.
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There you go.
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You're not a man for president.
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Why, I know what's funny about that.
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You're gonna run. Is this where you're gonna.
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Actually have been? O? I have. I did this bit
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on my show every election pipe Man for Prevs.
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Okay, I love it.
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I run this commercial where we do a voiceover of
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Bill Clinton saying I did not have sexual relations with
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that woman. And then I come on and say, I'm
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pipe Man and I will have sexual relations with that woman.
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Vote pipe Man for Prevs. And I'll tell you the
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silliest part about it. You know, it's a bit on
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the radio. I've done it every election in recent years.
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In twenty sixteen, I couldn't vote for anybody, so I
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wrote myself in as a candidate.
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I like that, And I.
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Know factually at least six of my listeners voted for
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me for president. That shows how fucked up shit is
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that six people besides myself at least are voting for
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a radio personality, and even my real personality, but my.
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Radio person Yeah. Can you blame them though?
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No? I can't. Fucking Why did I vote for myself?
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Because fuck all these clowns on the same team and
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it ain't mine exactly all this trick in the book
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Divide and Conquered, We got to stop being assholes. Just
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live and let live. You're if you're a decent person,
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out give a fuck who you vote for. It's not
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my business. That's how I was brought up. You know,
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don't talk politics and don't don't tell people you vote for.
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It is not their business.
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Who gives a shit anyway, It's all about.
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The music or the politicians. Don't give us ship about
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us and then not give us what we think we're
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voting for.
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They never do, you know, it's a bait and switch.
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Music's the best fucking therapy, the best united especially this
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this genre. We're a big family. Everybody thinks, oh they
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go mushmitz are scary, dude, We have rules, picks on
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my up if they fall down.
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Yeah, listen, they are scary, but it's not as scary
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as a fucking bomb. Get ready to drop on your fucking.
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No doubt and you could work your shit out. Get
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the therapy, and at the end of the song, all
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these big scary dudes are given a big hug.
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Yeah you have.
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You just smashed into each other. A lot of people
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could learn a lot from us.
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Then we've done our job there.
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It is so now that you're starting to love the
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music again. Have you figured out the coping skill of
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dealing with the ship you didn't like?
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Yeah? I have, And the answer to that is to
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stay in my lane, you know not. It took me
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a long time to understand and realize that, you know what,
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we only have control of things so far, right, Like
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people ask me all the time, like when you wrote
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this song, like do you hope that it's a hit
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or do you think that it's gonna be a hit?
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And I always say to people like, you can never
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really predict that, Like you, I always tell a new
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artist that asked me for advice, I say to them,
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write what you love and beyond that, the rest of
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it's out of your hands. Like you write it and
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you hope that the world loves it as much as
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you do. That that resonates in and connects, and your
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job is to go out there and help them connect
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with it, hopefully or not. But not every song is
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a winter. I mean, look how many songs like I'm
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a Big Alison Shain's Van, for example, Like a lot
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of people are their first three records. If you ask me,
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every single song on those records could have been a single,
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but they weren't. Yeah, but the ones that were, I
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mean one hundred percent should have been the you know,
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the hits that they were, but if you ask me,
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there was so many more. But sometimes the world doesn't
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look at it that way. Yeah, you know, and that's
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just the reality of it. So my new coping mechanism
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or way to cope with the things that I don't
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like is to always remember, none of this shit is
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in my control. I'm just staying in my lane doing
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what I do, and that's that's what I'm here to do.
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So I'm also homotivational speakers, so I'm big into forget
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this you can't control because you can't control it, but
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you can control your attitude.
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Exactly exactly, and that's that's where a lot of work
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happens for me. Like I do a lot of reading.
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I'm really big into self development and being aware and
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I also coach people too when I'm not out making music.
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So one hundred percent to your point, like, that's what
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it's all about, is you can't control anything in this world,
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but you can't control you.
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That's right, that's right. And you know the fact is
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is you made a good point too. Is like the
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Artists that try to write a hit are not going
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to write a hit. In my opinion, you have to
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do what you feel is something you would want to
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listen to, that's in your heart, your passion. Because also,
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if you're writing something for a hit, it's not really
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you and people can tell that you're just writing it
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for that reason. Yeah, you know, leave that to the
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