First Time at Rocklahoma: She Hates Me Not Breaks Down Their Ambitions and Gigs
In this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with the band She Hates Me Not at Rocklahoma. The conversation covers the band's experience playing their first Rocklahoma set, the challenges of performing in extreme heat, musical inspirations, concert memories, and upcoming projects. The group also pays tribute to influential bands and local Oklahoma artists, sharing stories from backstage to the early days of heavy metal.
Main Topics Covered
- Playing for the first time at Rocklahoma and dealing with the heat
- How She Hates Me Not landed a spot at the festival
- Personal concert experiences that inspired the band members
- Memories and stories about iconic bands like Slayer and Metallica
- Discussion of favorite bands to tour with (dream and realistic picks)
- Upcoming shows and new album information
- Shoutouts to local Oklahoma bands and scene community spirit
- Reflections on the legacy and community of heavy music
- Performing on the Rocklahoma stage was a major accomplishment for the band—especially surviving the extreme heat without a heat stroke 00:35.
- Pipe Man expresses admiration for their ability to play under such intense conditions and recalls that even major musicians have succumbed to heat stroke at festivals 00:41.
- She Hates Me Not's manager, known as "the Horse", played a vital role in booking them for Rocklahoma, persistently reaching out until the opportunity came through 01:24.
- The band shares the pressure and excitement leading up to the festival: "Don't fuck up" was the main thought, and the importance of delivering their best with lots of new faces in the audience 02:00.
- Treating every show as important as the last and keeping a routine, regardless of the size of the event 02:18.
- Band members recount their first life-changing concerts, including Foo Fighters, Alanis Morissette, Malevolence, and Code Orange 03:11.
- Cade shares that his initial inspiration came from watching DJ performances online, specifically Marshmello and Skrillex, but ultimately gravitated toward the drums 04:35.
- Pipeman reminisces about seeing Slayer and Metallica at their earliest shows and meeting Dave Mustaine before the term "thrash" even existed 08:26.
- Anecdotes about old record stores, meeting Brian Slagel, and owning rare Metallica memorabilia underline the deep roots and rich history of the metal community 09:39.
- The band lists crossover, hardcore, and metal bands they'd love to tour with, including Mindforce, Drain, Power Trip, Guilt Trip, and Judiciary. They hint at an upcoming show with Judiciary that’s already scheduled 14:00.
- September 16: Oklahoma City with Judiciary at 89th Street
- October 3: Stigler, OK at Rock the Equinox
- November 14: Tulsa, OK at the Vanguard
- March: Los Angeles at the Whisky a Go Go with Marauder
- A new album, recorded at Bricktop Recording in Chicago, set to release early next year 15:24.
- Strong support for the Oklahoma scene, shouting out bands like Leash, Dirty Work, Squelching, Flashpoint, Inerium, Diced, and Taker 16:27.
- Appreciation for studio collaborators Andy Nelson and Pete Grossman at Bricktop Recording 17:42.
- When asked when they’ll headline Rocklahoma, a realistic estimate of 3–5 years is given 18:40.
- Emphasis on gratitude, hard work, and commitment to growing as a band 16:15.
- “Don’t fuck up. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking the whole time.” — on pre-show nerves 02:00
- “You’re only as good as your last performance.” — perspective on treating every show with high energy 02:33
- “If I can make people feel the way I felt at those concerts, then that’s one hell of a feat for me.” — on the inspiration from live music 03:27
- “We’re the best live band in Oklahoma.” — a bold, half-joking claim from the band 15:46
- “That’s what the metal community is.” — on supporting local and fellow bands 16:59
- “Realistically, I give it like 3 to 5 years.” — on headlining Rocklahoma 18:40
- Instagram:@shehatesmenotofficial
- Streaming platforms: Look for She Hates Me Not on all major services
- Shoutouts for Local Bands: Leash, Dirty Work, Squelching, Flashpoint, Inerium, Diced, Taker
- Recording Studio:Bricktop Recording, Chicago
- Upcoming Tour Dates: See above under "Upcoming Shows & New Album"
- Instagram: @shehatesmenotofficial
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0:04 Hi, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio. This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with. She Hates Me Not. Nice here at Rock, Oklahoma. Oh, my God. Besides it being hotter than hell here. What did it feel like playing up there on that stage tonight? It felt great. I think the biggest accomplishment for us was just finishing it without having a heat stroke. No doubt, right? And listen, there are like major musicians that have heat stroke all the time and stuff like this.
0:50 It blows my mind how you guys can even play up there. I'm too hot just standing there. Yeah, it's pretty hot. So is this your first time playing Rock, Lahoma? Yes, this is our first time. So how did it all happen? That is a great question. I'm going to tell Cade to answer that question. All right. That is a very good question. Can you repeat the question? How did you get to Rock, Oklahoma? How did this all happen? Not how you drove here, but how did this all happen? Well, we've been trying to play it for a while. Our manager, we call him the horse.
1:30 He's a cool dude. He's in charge of booking us and doing all the management side of things. So as far as getting us a show here, yeah, just reached out and went back and forth and then made it work. Did it kind of blow your mind when you got the news that you were playing it? Yeah, we were definitely super excited, yeah. So what was going through your mind before even coming to Rock, Oklahoma of what this was going to be like? You can say whatever the fuck you want. Don't fuck up. That's what I was thinking the whole time. I know we were all thinking this is big for us. We need to dial in everything and make sure we deliver our best because lots of new faces, lots of people.
2:15 Just a big moment for us. Nice. I think my thought was the show is just like any other show. It's like the last one we play and it's like the next one. It's just like the same approach for me. Just had a coffee at midday and You called it good. Yeah, I mean, I would agree. Firm believer of you're only as good as your last performance. So I just wanted to come out strong, all the energy. I mean, I wanted to start the festival off strong, be the first band. Nice. And I'll tell you what, too. I was really shocked because I'm from New York and New Jersey, and I came all the way to Oklahoma to see somebody dressed up like a Yankee. I didn't imagine that in Oklahoma.
3:02 So what was the concert you guys went to that you just went like, this is what I want to do? My first concert was the Foo Fighters at the Zoo Amphitheater in OKC. And Radke opened for them. They're a cool band. They are cool. And I don't know. Something about it. I saw them. And then shortly after, I saw Alanis Morissette live. And. I know it's not like anything what. We play, but the feeling you get of being at a concert is like, man, if I can make people feel the way I felt at those concerts, then that's one hell of a feat for me. And that's the thing. It doesn't matter. Live music is live music. So there is a feeling, even if it's not your genre.
3:47 You know, for me, honestly, I've probably played more concerts than I've been to. But the show for me that really turned my head, it was Malevolence. They came to Tulsa probably three years ago, and it was like, dang, they actually were heavy. So that was my thing, was like, can I show up and be heavy and bring energy, just like they did. So that was the changer for me. They are one of my favorite bands, for sure. For me, it was actually here a couple years ago when Code Orange came to play, and they just brought the craziest energy of the night, and they were just so lit and awesome. For me, that was the performance that spiked that passion to want to be up there someday too.
4:32 Nice. Bring that same energy. I wish I had a cool story like that. When I was a kid, starting out in music, I went through a DJ phase. Shout out Marshmello and Skrillex. That's why I want to perform. You know what's funny about that? As somebody that's gone to thousands of shows, at first, I never really got the DJ concert thing, like go to a club, yes. But then I did a festival where it had Skrillex and Bass Nectar. And I was like, oh, I get it now. Yeah. The catch is I've never actually seen either one of them live. I would just watch YouTube videos and I'm like, oh, that's sick. I could never figure out like actual DJing though.
5:19 So I kind of gave that up and picked up sticks. Well, you did pretty good at the stick, so maybe it was a good move. Yeah, shout out Skrillex. I think we're all pretty big fans of Skrillex. Alan Walker, too. Oh, yeah. So, Slayer. Oh, yeah? I see Slayer socks. I got those for him. And we have Slayer here at Rock, Oklahoma. First time ever. Dude, you fuck yeah. I was at their first show ever. What? Are you for real? For real. How? Like, where was it? It was in L.A. Wow. Where they started. What club? I think it was the Troubadour. I don't remember. Oh, dude, the Troubadour kicks ass. Yeah. That's a rad venue. I used to go there when I was like 12 and 13.
6:02 Oh, yeah. So I'm looking forward to Slayer. Are you guys going to be here for Slayer? Absolutely. Yes. They're the only one of the big four I haven't seen. Really? Yeah. I've tried to see them twice, had tickets and everything, and, you know. Some bullshit happens. It rains or they cancel or whatever, so I'm very excited to see them. He wants to say something. Yeah, so all of us went to Louder Than Life when Slayer was supposed to play. I was there in the parking lot waiting to the last minute to get back in. Yeah, and it started raining, and we were mad because that was the only day we went for. So we drove all the way there, got rained out, we didn't see Slayer, then we had to drive all the way back.
6:44 And see, now they're here... At Rock, Lahoma. I'm pumped. I've never been to try to see Slayer, but I'm here now. I'm so excited because I think they're one of the sickest bands to ever come out. Given the time they came out and what was around when they came out, they're just one of the sickest. I agree. They're definitely a huge inspiration. They have some of the most badass riffs of any band. Pretty much every opening riff to any one of their songs is just this shit. Dude, I remember sixth grade, I would just be playing Raining Blood on repeat every day in class. It's like core memory for me. Nice. Jet actually introduced me to Slayer whenever I joined the band.
7:27 He didn't know who Bardo was. Yeah, I didn't really listen to metal before. How do you not know? See, you're just like Tom, though. When Tom joined Slayer, he didn't even know what heavy metal was. Yeah, he told me which Metallica albums to listen to. I was at their first show ever, too. What? Stop it. That's insane. For real. Here's my battle vest from the 80s. You can take a look at it. Hell yeah. What? Now you describe that on the air. Now, Slayer didn't even have a patch at that time, so I just did that. GBH kicks ass. I drew all those drawings.
8:07 You got the old Exodus logo. Look at how you knew that. I'm impressed. Dude, that's rad. Was that when Kirk was. Still in the band? That logo? Yeah. Did you see him with Kirk ever? No. But I did see Metallica with Mustaine. Oh, hell yeah. That's freaking cool. Right? Well, what's even cooler is that, I don't know, what was I, like 13, 14? I can't remember. And they play. There were like 25 of us there. And they come off the stage and Mustaine comes up and starts talking to me. Hands me his business card. And it says Metallica Power Metal Dave Mustaine. Because thrash didn't exist yet.
8:53 Not that long ago, I was at this record meet up. Kind of like a swap meet thing with a bunch of records. And I found Metal Up Your Ass on vinyl. I was like, yeah, I'm getting that. That's awesome. Yeah. Somewhere I have the demo tape still from the tape trading days that You can't tell what it says, though, because it's been recorded over, like, 500 times. One of the coolest things I've ever seen with my own two eyes is I was in Vegas not that long ago, and I went to the Metal Blade Museum, and they had the original cassette that Lars handed to Brian Slagle. Yep. The original, the first Metallica recording ever.
9:34 And I saw it with my own two eyes behind a glass case and was like, that is really something cool. So... I used to go to this place in the valley called Oz Records. And there was this really cool record store clerk there. And he used to get a lot of imports. So he used to show us teenagers, you know, all the newest music. Here, check this out. Like for one of the first albums he handed me was venom welcome to hell and uh he used to tell us what shows to go to that was brian slagle nice what that's awesome He was a record store clerk and he started Metal Blade while he was working there.
10:16 He was brilliant because he had all us teenagers going to all his band shows and buying their music. The real thing is like whose first show were you not at? That's the real question. There's probably a lot. Yeah. Sabbath wasn't at their first show. Okay. Well, time period wise. So here's a trivia question for you. What was Black Sabbath's original name? Oh, dude, I know it. Oh, wait. No, I actually knew the Black Sabbaths. I actually know it. Damn, I don't. It was like White Saturday. White Saturday. I don't know. I can't remember.
10:56 You're going to say it, and I'm going to know it. Yeah, literally. Earth. Yeah. I don't know. Damn. And I did see Ozzy with Randy Rhoads. Dude, you lucky motherfucker. It's not even fair. Funny story about that is, you know, my bro and I, we went on New Year's Eve to see Ozzy. I told my dad we were going to sleep over at his house. He told his parents he was sleeping over at my house. We went to Ozzy. The old switcheroo. Yep. You guys probably have done it to your parents. You can fess up now. And we came home from the gig, and we were sitting down, like, at the bum of the hill from where I live.
11:41 And my next-door neighbor came out. Oh. And she's like, oh, did you Aussie boys see Aussie? And we're like, oh, shit, we're busted. Yeah. She goes, wait right there. I'm getting my husband. I'm like, oh, crap. He brings us to the house. He had a room the size of this. That was his studio with cassette tapes all over the wall. And it turned out he was Ozzy's promoter. Are you serious? Who do you not know? It's just right time, man. This guy was in the right place at the right time.
12:23 I lived in New Jersey. My dad said to me in 1980, Hey, pack your bags. We're moving to California in three days. And that's why we're sitting here right now. That's crazy. Yeah, you're like John Heavy Metal. So, if you guys were to pick a band you would go on tour with that is like the one you would want to do most, what would it be? Oh, um. Realistic or like. Unrealistic, whatever. Oh, man. Everything's realistic. Metallica's like ate bologna sandwiches and slept on a floor for ten years. That's true. I don't know. I'd probably pick, um... Like... Crush Your Soul or like Drain or something like that.
13:06 Okay. Yeah. How about you? Dude, like there's so many bands like in the world that I love. But honestly, I'm going to have to say if it was probably 10 years ago, I would say Acacia Strain. But now, no. I got to say like Mindforce, man. I really like Mindforce a lot. All right. Well, I was going to say Mindforce, but I'm going to pick a different one so that it's not the same. Let's think. I would want to do a crossover band, someone that is combining that hardcore thrash vibe. Oh, yeah, Power Trip would be dope.
13:47 Yeah, I'm going to say Power Trip. All right, cool. Yeah, that was going to be mine. Shoot, let me think of another one real quick. You can have the same one. It's your pick. Judiciary. Judiciary. We got a show with them coming up. September 16th. Oh, see. So you already have it. Yeah, we have a show with them. Not a tour. Oh, yeah. Guilt trip would also be sick. Someone already said drain, right? Yeah. Yeah. So tell everybody what gigs you do have coming up, where they're at, what the dates are, and how they can connect to you guys on socials and get all your info. And buy your merch because they can't listen to my show if they don't buy your merch.
14:30 First of all, you can follow us on Instagram at SheHatesMeNotOfficial. You can also find us on all streaming platforms at SheHatesMeNot. Our next show is September 16th in Oklahoma City with Judiciary at 89th Street. After that, October 3rd in Stigler, Oklahoma at Rock the Equinox. And then after that we got November 14th, that'll be at Tulsa, Oklahoma at the Vanguard. Hold up. And then what's after that? We got anything after that? We got a few shows December, January, but we got March 13th in L.A. At the Whiskey. Oh, the Whiskey. That should be a bucket.
15:12 We got a. Show in March or May? March. March in L.A. at the Whiskey, but we're working on some shows in between there. Wait, tell them who it's with. That one's with Marauder. Nice. Yeah. We also have an album that we have recorded, and it is coming out early next year. It's going to be still working on all the promo side of things right now, but it's going to be freaking sick once it comes out. Yeah. Nice. Anything else you want to tell the listeners that we haven't covered already? I'm going to just say we're the best live band in Oklahoma. There you go. I like that. And you did kill it here at Rock, Oklahoma. He's joking.
15:57 He's fucking with you. He's fucking with you. No. I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing, but for real. You should be. It's squelching. Yeah, it is squelching. It's actually the best band ever to come out of Oklahoma is squelching. Yeah, also Rest in Peace, Flashpoint, Tulsa, Oklahoma. They were a badass band. They're a badass punk band. But I do want to say. we're going to keep working and we're super grateful for the opportunities we've been given and we're going to, we're going to keep working towards what we want to do. And, uh, yeah. Yeah. Also just a shout out a couple of local bands that we really enjoy. Uh, and you should also check out from Tulsa around our seam, uh, leash, uh, dirty work. Yeah. Squelching. We already said, uh, flashpoint. They, they're not, they don't do live shows anymore, but they're, uh, their music.
16:44 Yeah. Their music kicks ass. It's on streaming platforms. Um, Who else? Anirium. They're dope. Diced is dope. Taker's dope. Yeah. See, that's cool that you're giving the shout-outs to all those other bands. That's the way it should be. That's what the metal community is. Yeah, definitely check them out. Yeah, and Squelching again. How many times? How many times should they check out Squelching? One more thing. One more thing. Check out Squelching. There's this other. Pretty good. They're like Peter Griffin Deathcore. Their name is Squelching. You got to go see him.
17:26 Sorry, you have to excuse our guitar player. He's a little turned on by squelching. You can say he's squelching. Yeah, and I like the Peter Griffin Deathcore thing. That's pretty cool. So.... And also, we also want to shout out Andy Nelson and Pete Grossman over at Bricktop Recording out in Chicago. We record our album over there, and they're real great people. Andy's a great guy, and we're real grateful for them to be able to handle us for a couple weeks to get our record put together. Nice. So my last question is, when are you guys going to headline Rock, La Jolla? Tomorrow.
18:08 Pardon? When are you going to headline Rock, Oklahoma? Tomorrow. Let's see. My realistic guess, headline. Headline? It's usually veteran bands that headline. You might end up a veteran band. Yeah, it gives like 30 years. But if you're considering like the pre-party or like. Whatever you want to consider. Playing on one of the bigger stages at Rockahoma, honestly, realistically, I give it three to five years. All right. I'm going to hold you to that. All right. Well, you guys killed it here, though, at Rockahoma for sure.
18:51 And you should be on the main stage. I appreciate that. And thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Yeah, thank you, man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man. On W4CUI Radio.
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