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Inside Cowboy Angels: From Country Confusion to Hard Rock Legends at Rocklahoma

Inside Cowboy Angels: From Country Confusion to Hard Rock Legends at Rocklahoma
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In this lively episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, Pipeman meets up with members of Cowboy Angels at Rocklahoma to discuss the challenges and joys of performing in extreme heat, band origins, musical influences, and favorite moments in rock history. The crew dives deep into stories about legendary musicians, the passion behind live shows, and the nostalgia of classic rock and metal, all wrapped up with camaraderie, musical trivia, and some friendly banter.

Main Topics Covered

  • Surviving and performing at hot outdoor music festivals
  • Origins and evolution of Cowboy Angels
  • Musical influences and how each band member began their journey
  • The vibe at Rocklahoma versus Michigan’s rock scene
  • Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne discussion and trivia
  • The impact of legendary musicians like Randy Rhoads and Eddie Van Halen
  • Reflections on the “27 Club” and rockstar legacies
  • The importance of obsession and dedication in music
  • Nostalgic stories of collecting and listening to music on vinyl, cassettes, and 8-tracks
  • Shoutouts to emergency medical teams at festivals
  • How fans can connect with Cowboy Angels and support the band
Key Discussions & StoriesPerforming in Brutal Heat
  • The band shares survival tips for playing shows in 100+ degree weather: water, electrolytes, and getting in the zone to ignore physical discomfort 00:39.
  • Shoutout to fans tent-camping in the heat—serving as motivation for the band to give their all 03:07.
Band Background and Musical Journey
  • Cowboy Angels started as an acoustic project but quickly shifted to hard rock, keeping the original band name to defy genre expectations 07:35.
  • Each member shares how they got into music, influenced by everything from family encouragement to iconic players, and discuss the importance of obsession in becoming a great musician 14:03.
Rocklahoma & Festival Culture
  • Comparing Michigan rock fans to those in Oklahoma, and humorous insights about festival camping and weather challenges 10:08.
  • Stories of mini-tornadoes and the critical role of EMS teams at the festival 10:47.
Deep Dives into Rock and Metal
  • Metallica’s influence on rock music and the evolution of band expectations 05:14.
  • Black Sabbath trivia, favorite Sabbath songs, and how influential musicians like Geezer Butler and Randy Rhoads shaped the members’ playing 20:48, 22:08.
  • Personal stories of attending legendary concerts, meeting music icons, and collecting memorabilia, including a neighbor who was Ozzy's promoter 29:01.
The Legacy of Legendary Musicians
  • Discussing the “27 Club,” artistic legacies, and the mythology surrounding artists who died young 31:33.
  • The influence and potential what-ifs of Randy Rhoads's career and teaching ambitions 33:00.
  • Reflections on the intense dedication required to succeed in music and the real “dues” paid by musicians 33:48.
Notable Quotes
  • “You just gotta ignore what your body’s telling you and just play funky guitar and look good doing it.” 01:08
  • “A good musician is always obsessed.” 16:49
  • “The struggles we had with cassettes and 8-tracks… but artists got paid, so I’ll take the struggle.” 25:19
  • “Randy Rhoads was one of the reasons I started playing guitar—and stopped, because that’s it.” 30:58
  • “All the great ones… people think that musicians have it easy. Fucking one of the hardest jobs in the world.” 33:48
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Cowboy Angels on Streaming Platforms: Search "Cowboy Angels" (non-country, hard rock band)
  • Instagram:@Cowboy Angels (search "Cowboy Angels")
  • Facebook: Cowboy Angels Band
  • TikTok: Cowboy Angels Rock
  • Rocklahoma Festival:Official Website
  • Bowl for Ronnie (Cancer Charity): Annual rockstars bowling event for cancer charity, associated with Ronnie James Dio
Connect & Support
  • Look for Cowboy Angels on all major streaming platforms
  • Follow them on Instagram (Cowboy Angels), Facebook (Cowboy Angels Band), and TikTok (Cowboy Angels Rock)
  • Support by purchasing band merch—Pipeman jokes “you can’t listen to my show unless you buy their merch” 34:29
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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures of

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Pipe Man W4CY radio and I'm here.

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With cowboy angels nice here at rocklahoma or or should

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we call it rocklah hell because it's fucking a hundred.

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Degrees it's hotter than hell yeah yeah how the hell.

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Do you guys i just want to know how the

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hell you guys fucking play in this shit.

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How yeah it was easy to not it was easy

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to not play like it's easy just to lay down

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and just like sweat it out but you just drink

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a lot of water a lot of water and electrolytes

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and you just get right into it.

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I think, too, it's like you get in this zone

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once you get on stage that you don't give yourself

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permission to feel that shit.

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No.

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It's not until afterwards that you die.

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You pay for it afterwards, yeah. Yeah, Darian had a

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little death afterwards.

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Yeah, I mean, you just got to ignore what your

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body's telling you and just play funky guitar and, I

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don't know, just... Look good doing it. And just know

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that you can play as hard as you want now

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and you got all.

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Day to be tired.

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Yeah. That say, right?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You got to let the denim breathe, you know, cause

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you're going out there, you know, you're going to work,

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you know, hard rock bands. We like to wear denim

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and leather and stuff like that. So it's, this is like,

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Crazy for us, yeah.

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I know, right? Like, we were just talking about it

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when we were eating lunch earlier, me and a couple

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other media people. I'm like, yeah, if I was GWAR,

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I wouldn't even come out in this shit.

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No, no way.

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No way. GWAR's not on the bill.

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I would say, spray me with blood, please, right now.

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Blood and cum, right now.

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I know, right? Actually, the... The first time I ever

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experienced this was at Rock, Oklahoma. Like, for years, I've

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avoided the GWAR shit.

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Yeah. Okay?

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I've interviewed them. I've avoided it. And then last, it

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was a couple years ago, they were here. And we

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were up side stage. And this girl I was hanging with,

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she went down so she could purposely get hit by GWAR.

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And then she came up and gave me a big hug.

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Oh, no. All that work for nothing, dude. I know, right?

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I thought I escaped it, but I didn't. Did you

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keep her? No. No.

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I don't blame you.

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And now tomorrow I have to avoid the Faygo.

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Yeah, yeah, the Faygo.

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Oh, man.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah, that's, see, shit like that's fun. And I think that's,

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like what you're saying is, you get up there and

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you perform a live show.

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Yes.

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You know, if I want to listen to an album,

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I'll just listen to an album. But part of the

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live show is entertainment, no matter what it is out there.

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I think the biggest influence that I had to performing

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in the heat was when we drove here, we saw

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the people in tents everywhere. and we had it we

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had it we had a we had a hotel room

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that was like 61 degrees right and i was like

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well we got to give it our all because these

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people slept in tents in like a hundred degree night

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and i was like yeah they're out there yeah and

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i'm like you just can't you can't you can't bitch

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out and give it your all and uh that was

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my main thing i mean that was that was just

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uh just monumental to see that people are actually uh

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Tent camping?

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Yeah.

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This is the hottest weather.

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No doubt.

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It's dusty and hot.

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I live in South Florida, and I can't wait to

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get home to cool down.

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Yeah, that's it.

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Who fucking says that?

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We're in South Florida.

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Near West Palm Beach.

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Oh, okay.

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I was born in Altamont Springs.

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Oh, cool.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Florida Man.

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There you go.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's hand over the mic to Cody McCoy, the

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boomer and the basher of the band.

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The boomer and the basher.

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I don't got much to say. Is there a question

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I'm supposed to be answering?

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No, man, just say something.

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What's up, man?

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How about what was the first time in your life

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you knew this is what you had to do with

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your life?

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I mean, according to my parents... I knew it when

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I was like five.

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Nice.

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I don't really remember that. But I got real serious

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when I was like eight or nine.

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So it must have started at five.

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I thought I was Lars Ulrich, you know.

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I set my little miniature drums up exactly like Lars.

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Black album style. Four rack toms. You know, it's like

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just silly.

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Now see, I'm the one that when the black album

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came out.

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Yeah, you were probably pissed, right?

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Oh yeah, the 25 Metallica fans before that.

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Yeah.

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One of us. I was like. fucking poser sellouts.

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Yeah, I know.

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But you know what?

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Monumental move on their part, though.

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They're still my favorite band today. And the thing is,

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is if it weren't for them doing that. We wouldn't

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be sitting here right now, probably.

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100%. They set a new standard, man.

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No doubt.

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And bands went harder after that.

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Exactly.

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Because the standard was so high.

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Well, also, they saw that the opportunity was there. Because

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back in those times, we were like, if a band

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played on the radio, fuck them. We're not listening to

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them anymore. And bands didn't want to get on the radio. 100%.

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So it changed the whole landscape of it.

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100%. Then....

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A few years ago, I was doing media coverage at Download.

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Metallica was headlining. So they have their own system.

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Yeah, right. Thunder Audio.

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It's designed so that wherever you are in the festival,

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you can hear them clearly, like you're up front. 15

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miles away, people were calling the cops complaining because they

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could hear Metallica loud and clear.

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Insane.

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Yeah, they fly subs.

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15 miles.

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It's fucking crazy, man.

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Oh, my God.

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Incredible.

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And I was standing right by that speaker. Like, how

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I can hear you now, I don't know.

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It's a different level of excellence, man.

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I know, right?

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It's at a completely different echelon.

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It's not like when you see him at the Troubadour

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and you couldn't even hear James singing.

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Right.

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You know how that is. The little clubs, it's always

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the PA that's the shit. Right.

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But the vibe is impeccable.

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Exactly. There's nothing better. Right. Like my first club show ever,

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I was like, fuck, I'm never going to a real

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concert ever again. Totally different, yeah. It was Motley Crue

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before they had an album. When they were horror punk,

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they weren't even glam yet.

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Insane.

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And they were trying to light the Roxy on the

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Sunset Strip on fire to bring Satan in.

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Crazy, dude.

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I was like, I'm sold.

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Yeah, man.

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That's insane.

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Right? So how did this band all come together?

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I'm going to let Austin take that one. He's the OG.

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I'm fresh meat, baby.

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So a lot of people hear Cowboy Angels and they

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think like country rock.

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And it's... I would think that.

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Yeah, so... What just started... Did you play.

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At Born and Raised, too?

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What's that?

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Did you play at Born and Raised, too? I'm just kidding.

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No, no, no. We're Rock, Lahoma boys, dude. So, it

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kind of started was.

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I was in a hard rock band before this and

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I wanted to do like an acoustic trio project, you know,

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but I was like, I was just learning acoustic guitar.

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I'm like, what's easy to learn? I'm like country and folk.

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I'm like, all right. And Southern rock, you know? So

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I knew this guy, Darian would be down with that.

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And so we started getting together and picking some shit.

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And I was like, we started playing Jimi Hendrix and like, And, like, fucking, like,

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Deep Purple. I'm like, fuck this. Fuck this. This is

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my new hard rock project. We're keeping the name, though.

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We're keeping the name. Because Cowboy Angels, it can be hard. Yeah,

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it can be hard rock. If you think of it,

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it can be hard rock. Because all the, like, the...

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Glam metal bands and stuff, they all wore cowboy boots

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and shit. They all kind of looked kind of country

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a little bit.

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How about Pantera, Cowboys from Hell?

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Exactly, exactly.

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So you're the Angels, they're from Hell.

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Yeah, exactly. Boom, dude, I love that. I've never even

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thought of that.

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Now you have to go on tour together.

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Yeah, we should. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach Wilde showed Darian

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a thing or two.

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Right? Yeah, just go up to him tomorrow and say, hey, dude.

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Oh, yeah, BLS is right, yeah.

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Bring us on tour with you because we're the Angels

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and you're the Cowboys from now on.

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Oh, my God, yeah, that would be great. That would

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be so great. But, yeah, anyways, I hit this guy up,

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and I had a bunch of songs stockpiled, so me

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and him started, like, riffing those out, and then, you know,

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we put a band together, and then we hooked up

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with Rick, and then eventually we hooked up with Cody.

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And they're really fast learners, and they really made everything

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kind of glue together.

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Nice.

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We're really fast learners. This rhythm section is, bar none,

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the best.

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I love it.

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The best.

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Well, then let's hear from him, because we haven't heard

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from him yet.

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Bass man. What up?

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So my first question is, are you a surfer?

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Am I a surfer?

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Well, you're wearing the Hurley, so I had to ask.

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Oh, I've had this tank top for probably 15 years.

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Is that your gig tank top?

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This is my post-gig tank top.

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Yeah, there you go.

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When it's 100, yeah.

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Right? I looked down at my phone before I was like, fuck, 100.

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It doesn't even get 100 in Florida. Get me the

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fuck out of here.

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Yeah, us Michigan boys, we're sweating.

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Right? You guys aren't used to this at all, huh?

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It gets hot in the summer, but it does not

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get quite this hot in Florida.

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September.

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So, what do you think about the vibe in Michigan

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compared to the vibe at Rock, Oklahoma? Oh, man.

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Well, there's a lot of rockers in Michigan. It's pretty similar.

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I think if you could take up all the rock

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fans and bring them to Oklahoma, you wouldn't know the difference.

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There's a lot of.

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Rockers that come out and support small shows, big shows,

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all kinds of stuff. I really am enjoying the fine

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music fans of Oklahoma.

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They seem to be right up our alley as far

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as our Michigan.

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And have you been to the campground yet?

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We have not, no.

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Okay, so you've got to go there and let me

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know how that compares to Michigan camping because it's a

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little insane in the Rock, Oklahoma campground.

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Oh, we'll check that out for sure. I saw a

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mini tornado in the parking lot behind the Renegade stage today. Really?

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And I was like, guys, tornado, tornado, tornado. It was

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like a little mini dust tornado like around the port-a-potties. Wow.

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It was funny, too, because I was freaking out a

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little bit. I have some PTSD this year because almost

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every festival since May I've gotten evacuated from. Oh, wow.

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I'm walking in this morning, and they were doing the

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test of the evacuation thing. I'm like, fuck, no. I

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don't see any storm.

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I mean, we're going good so far, man. Like, this

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is great, yeah.

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But I have been evacuated at Rock, Oklahoma. Have you?

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I think I've been evacuated at pretty much every festival

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there is.

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I had to get evacuated off of the stage after

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almost having a heat stroke.

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Right, and.

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That was hardcore.

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The band I interviewed before you, the drummer passed out,

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and they gave him, like, the jacket, the hydration with

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the cool-down jacket. There were two.

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Shout-out to EMS. Shout-out to EMS. Big time, dude.

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They are taking good care of people.

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It's hardcore. I wish I would have known that prior. Like,

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I would love to. I'd like to. I would have.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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If I knew that was, you know, the insurance, you know,

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I never know. I never know.

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What your insurance plan is until it happens.

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That could be some new merch for you guys. Your

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own cooling jacket.

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Yeah, I would have went a little harder if I

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knew that was waiting for me.

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I know, right? He would say, yeah, it was really good.

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Dress me up. Two people taken out by helicopters yesterday.

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Bunch of ambulances took people out, but they've taken good

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care of people.

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God bless these people that are staying, you know, for

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the weekend. I mean, what I was saying before, when

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I was like my biggest inspiration of just going hard,

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you know, I knew I was going to be... Like,

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we're all denim and leather up there, you know, and

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I don't even know what the temperature is. But, you know,

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in an emotional standpoint, it's hot as fuck.

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No doubt.

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It is like it's different. It's a different sun, even

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though there's clouds everywhere. It doesn't... This is fucking weird, man.

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It's really fucking hot, man.

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I mean, look at the clouds.

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It's gorgeous. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, well, you can't look at the clouds. We're on

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a radio interview, but, like, you're going to have to, like,

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take our word. We're going to paint a picture for

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you with poetry.

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Let's hear it. Let's hear it.

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It's like the southwestern, like, paintings you see in, like,

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a thrift store, you know? It's just, like, mostly clouds

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and a guy and a horse, you know? It's beautiful

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out here, dude. It's so nice.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I like your necklace, too. It says, fuck it.

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It says, fuck it, yep.

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I like that better than the zero fucks given shit.

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I think so.

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I think zero fucks given is stupid. You should give

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a fuck. But there's times you should just say, fuck it.

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Fuck it is always good to have in your back pocket,

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for sure.

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For sure. You've got to give some fucks, but then

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when it's time to say fuck it, you just fuck it.

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You just say fuck it.

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You just say fuck it. You don't stress about it.

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You just say fuck it. You walk away, you know?

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There it is.

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Yep. So.

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How did all of you end up getting into music initially?

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We already got his answer. So he's free. How about

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you guys and him?

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So, hi, Austin Ouellette, vocals. So I started out, my

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parents had me on a piano at like four years old.

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And then I did that for a couple years, and

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then I joined... band in middle school I was on

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a trumpet for a while and then they said hey

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we got opening for a bass player so I tried

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that I didn't get it but I was a bass

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player for a while and then I I was writing

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songs and I didn't like how the vocalist was singing

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it in my old band so I started singing it

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so you know that's how it went that's.

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Kind of how it works right Darian Lone guitar player

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biggest but yeah yeah yeah and uh i mean honestly

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yeah what what made me want to get into music

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was uh my grandpa raymond hall he was like he

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was like country western guitar player great singer and everything

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and he he inspired me to like really just do

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what you wanted you know and pursue pursue with the

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music and uh and i i just kept at it

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you know and i and uh It's hard for me

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to describe because I wasn't really thinking or talking during

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the whole journey where I would just pick up and play.

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That was like right... I don't know how old I was.

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It's hard to say.

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25.

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Yeah, it was like a few years ago. No, it

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was pretty much right when I could wrap my hand

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around a fretboard of a guitar.

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Nice.

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And then just went at it and listened to... as

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much as I could and uh... just just kind of uh...

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being like a like a like a uh.

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what's the word uh.

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man it's too high.

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Here I know right you were obsessed.

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Yeah yeah that's the perfect word for it I was

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just obsessed with it I wasn't really Word for Darian.

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Obsessed.

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Everything he does is 110%. Everything.

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Everything.

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It's hard for me to, like, timeline it because I wasn't, like,

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thinking or talking.

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Right.

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I was just, like, just going at it and I

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wasn't really... Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was.

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I wouldn't trade it for the world, man.

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It was a great, you know, just childhood of just.

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no, no, no.

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Well, I don't think Oklahoma has like a consumer's energy.

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I'm like thinking of like bills and shit, you know,

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but like, you know, just like when I was like

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with no, no care where you could just like, just

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fuck off. And just when you hear something, you try

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to learn it. And then like, you're like playing like

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the same thing over and over and over again. And

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every time it just is, is amazing. It's like, I

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don't know. It's obsession. It's, I don't know.

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Most good musicians are obsessed.

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A psychologist out there could probably give you a real

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fancy word for it, but I don't know it.

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To me, a good musician is always obsessed. I played

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instruments when I was younger and I was not obsessed.

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I was obsessed with music. I wasn't obsessed with doing

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scales or the practice pad on the drums. You mentioned trumpet.

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I remember I was in the orchestra and I was

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in the percussion section. One time I was like, Fuck.

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They're playing trumpet over there. I should try that, too.

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I never did, but... Trumpet's fun.

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Trumpet's swaggy, man. Trumpet's, like, yeah.

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See, you need a trumpet player in the band to

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be different now.

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Do a little two-tone, a little ska.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. There you go. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah.

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You could be the new wave of ska. We could.

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We could. We could. I know a guy who does

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all that shit.

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See, there you go.

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We need a good side man with a harmonica and

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a trumpet.

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Hey, Ozzy used a harmonica.

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I remember when I was in grade school, I was

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in the band and I did percussion. And I never

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knew how to read any of that shit. I saw

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the notations and all that stuff. I'm like, well, if

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they're real close together, that means you play fast.

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And if they're really wide... then, like, you don't play fast.

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I never, I was gonna say with obsession, with obsession, dude, no, man,

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I was gonna say, I wasn't, like, I, I just, like,

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I was just, I, I never learned how to play, like, scale,

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I know, like, you know, shit, shit scale, I don't know, like,

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the scales or anything, I know a couple, um, but

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I just, like, was, like, That's what.

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Turned me off, man. My guitar teachers tell me to

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do these scales like hours a day. I'm like, fuck this.

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Yeah, absolutely. I fucking hated school, man.

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And when you're learning theory, man, it makes me feel

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like I'm at school.

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Right.

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That sucks.

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Exactly. I just wanted to play the fucking thing.

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I was going to say, I'll just learn like 15

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solos and I'll take a piece of every 15 solos

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that I learned into something that we're doing here. It's

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like a puzzle piece. I take all these different things.

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I never learned it. I'll learn the solos note for

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note because.

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I heard something I really liked. But keep it going.

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And he fucking makes great solos too. He writes them.

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He doesn't need to learn them. He writes them. People

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are going to be learning his solos at some point.

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Of course it will.

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Playman, I got a question.

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Yeah.

461
00:19:19.849 --> 00:19:21.849
How do you stay so cool, dude? Can I see

462
00:19:21.869 --> 00:19:25.299
your vape? We're dying over here. We're sweating. I'm helping

463
00:19:25.339 --> 00:19:27.119
the fucking huge fan over there.

464
00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.049
You haven't seen twice today I had to wipe the

465
00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:35.589
bleeding out of my hair off my forehead. Oh, really? Yeah. Nice.

466
00:19:35.650 --> 00:19:38.009
My hair is not cooperating with this weather. Okay.

467
00:19:38.029 --> 00:19:39.950
Well, you look good right now, dude. You got it

468
00:19:39.990 --> 00:19:40.650
together for us.

469
00:19:40.650 --> 00:19:43.730
Well, because I'm in the interview. When the interview's over,

470
00:19:43.750 --> 00:19:44.470
then I'll die.

471
00:19:44.630 --> 00:19:46.630
Yeah. That's how we are on stage.

472
00:19:46.750 --> 00:19:46.930
Yeah.

473
00:19:47.170 --> 00:19:50.539
Exactly. It's the same thing. how do you get started.

474
00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.259
So our og drummer for this band's name is justin

475
00:19:55.299 --> 00:19:58.460
clifford he was my my best friend shout out jc

476
00:19:59.460 --> 00:20:02.240
um he's on everything that's recorded currently if you're if

477
00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:05.829
you stream our stuff um But Justin was and is

478
00:20:05.869 --> 00:20:08.299
still to this day one of my very best friends.

479
00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:13.319
And he played drums, obviously. And one of our other friends, Tyler,

480
00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:17.180
played guitar. And they needed a bass player. So they said, hey, Rick,

481
00:20:17.220 --> 00:20:20.180
you should probably learn how to play bass. That's a

482
00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:23.829
long story short. The long story was that my parents

483
00:20:23.869 --> 00:20:26.910
were really into music. Not playing it, but listening to it.

484
00:20:27.250 --> 00:20:30.970
Great album collection. Great rock and roll fans, my parents.

485
00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:34.000
And I started playing bass. I went to Guitar Center

486
00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:36.440
and checked it out and fell in love with it

487
00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:42.000
and then became obsessed. And years later, I'm still playing.

488
00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.000
Okay, so I have a trivia question for you. Oh, boy.

489
00:20:45.259 --> 00:20:48.500
That I've been asking all the bass players. Okay. Who's

490
00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:52.339
the most famous bass player that was originally a guitarist

491
00:20:52.420 --> 00:20:54.299
and the only reason he played bass is because they

492
00:20:54.339 --> 00:20:58.000
already had two guitarists and so he drew the short

493
00:20:58.079 --> 00:20:59.119
straw and had to play bass. Gieser Butler?

494
00:20:59.559 --> 00:20:59.720
Nope.

495
00:21:00.349 --> 00:21:02.130
I mean, that was Geezer Butler too, though.

496
00:21:03.069 --> 00:21:05.890
Was it? Yeah. Well, that's pretty good. Now I learned.

497
00:21:06.509 --> 00:21:10.589
You got me on. Are you going Paul McCartney?

498
00:21:10.890 --> 00:21:11.329
That's it.

499
00:21:11.349 --> 00:21:12.430
Okay, so I got two points.

500
00:21:12.490 --> 00:21:15.930
See, he knows it all. He gets the double jeopardy.

501
00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:18.849
Nice. Geezer Butler is probably my favorite bassist.

502
00:21:19.170 --> 00:21:19.869
Nice.

503
00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:21.829
Even though he was a transplant guitarist, he gets the

504
00:21:21.869 --> 00:21:25.450
pass of all time because I model a lot of

505
00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:27.150
my playing after him and John Paul Jones.

506
00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.980
He's a badass guy, and Geezer's a nice dude.

507
00:21:30.380 --> 00:21:30.900
I've never met him.

508
00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:32.940
I'd love to. I've met him a couple times. I've

509
00:21:32.980 --> 00:21:35.269
interviewed him. He's a nice freaking dude.

510
00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:37.769
I've read his book and studied his playing, and he

511
00:21:37.809 --> 00:21:39.150
seems like a great person, but.

512
00:21:39.569 --> 00:21:40.369
I'd love to hang out with him.

513
00:21:40.609 --> 00:21:42.569
So now, let's see if I can get you on

514
00:21:42.589 --> 00:21:50.049
another trivia question. Okay. What was Sabbath's original name? Earth. Fuck,

515
00:21:50.089 --> 00:21:53.549
you are good. Because nobody gets that.

516
00:21:53.710 --> 00:21:56.230
Oh, I'm a Sabbath nut a bit. Me and Cody

517
00:21:56.250 --> 00:21:56.670
both are.

518
00:21:56.970 --> 00:22:01.109
Okay, so now I really have to think. Which album,

519
00:22:02.230 --> 00:22:08.119
Sabbath album, Ozzy era Sabbath album, is Ozzy's least favorite?

520
00:22:08.130 --> 00:22:10.319
In fact, he doesn't like the album at all.

521
00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:13.700
Doesn't like the album at all.

522
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:15.599
Yeah.

523
00:22:15.859 --> 00:22:16.460
Cody, do you know?

524
00:22:17.230 --> 00:22:21.240
I don't know. But Volume 4 is what I would say.

525
00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.319
Nope.

526
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:27.000
Technical Ecstasy?

527
00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:29.539
Close. Never Say Die.

528
00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:32.349
Never Say... Okay. I was thinking Technical Ecstasy.

529
00:22:32.390 --> 00:22:34.069
And I kind of like Never Say Die.

530
00:22:34.170 --> 00:22:34.609
I like it.

531
00:22:34.630 --> 00:22:38.509
Technical Ecstasy I never really got into. Okay. But Never

532
00:22:38.569 --> 00:22:41.190
Say Die, like Johnny Blade's a great fucking song.

533
00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:42.109
Yeah, for sure.

534
00:22:42.490 --> 00:22:42.839
You know?

535
00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.059
I like bits and pieces of every.

536
00:22:45.930 --> 00:22:48.019
every black sabbath album the earlier stuff i could listen

537
00:22:48.059 --> 00:22:50.400
to you know obviously straight through but um i might

538
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:52.799
skip around on the later stuff but um i love it.

539
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.960
Do you like black sabbath with ian gillen i thought

540
00:22:56.980 --> 00:22:58.200
that was a little weird.

541
00:22:58.259 --> 00:23:01.480
With with ian yeah i i don't i'm listening to

542
00:23:01.539 --> 00:23:03.210
it but i don't i don't go back and listen to.

543
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.750
It yeah it ends great with deep purple i thought

544
00:23:05.809 --> 00:23:08.190
it was weird with sabbath but dio was great.

545
00:23:08.250 --> 00:23:11.069
Yeah yeah he was a different different band but awesome

546
00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:12.769
so yeah It was.

547
00:23:12.630 --> 00:23:15.609
A totally different band. That was the first song I

548
00:23:15.690 --> 00:23:17.490
ever learned on guitar was Heaven and Hell.

549
00:23:17.670 --> 00:23:18.960
Oh, that's a great song. Great riffs.

550
00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:21.700
Yeah, totally. I was like, fuck that. I don't want

551
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.359
to learn Smoke on the Water. Everybody learns that. I

552
00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:25.519
want to learn Heaven and Hell.

553
00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:27.200
Rock and roll. I dig it.

554
00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:29.960
What's your favorite Sabbath song?

555
00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:35.769
I want to know this, too.

556
00:23:35.849 --> 00:23:36.559
Wow, that's a hard one.

557
00:23:36.569 --> 00:23:37.910
I don't even know if I can answer.

558
00:23:37.930 --> 00:23:41.500
I'm going to go... Furious wear boots.

559
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:50.630
Can we all say our favorite Sabbath song? Yes.

560
00:23:51.470 --> 00:23:56.309
Dude, Hole in the Sky or fucking Sweet Leaf, dude.

561
00:23:56.930 --> 00:24:00.349
Drum songs. It's just crazy swag on that song.

562
00:24:00.369 --> 00:24:01.069
Nice.

563
00:24:01.170 --> 00:24:03.029
I got a deep cut. Thrill of it all.

564
00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:03.950
Nice.

565
00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:06.740
I got a deep cut myself.

566
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.140
My name is Darian Lone, guitarist at Cowboy Angels, and

567
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.970
my favorite Black Sabbath song is Killing Yourself to Live.

568
00:24:12.990 --> 00:24:15.150
That's a great song.

569
00:24:15.609 --> 00:24:16.569
Fuck yeah, dude. Fuck yeah.

570
00:24:16.710 --> 00:24:18.650
I don't even know if I can pick my favorite

571
00:24:18.809 --> 00:24:21.029
Sabbath song. Like, they're all fucking good.

572
00:24:21.049 --> 00:24:21.730
There is one.

573
00:24:22.779 --> 00:24:23.240
There is one.

574
00:24:23.890 --> 00:24:25.630
He just doesn't know.

575
00:24:25.650 --> 00:24:27.019
We're talking Ozzy, though, right?

576
00:24:27.619 --> 00:24:29.619
I could tell you my favorite Ozzy song.

577
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:30.779
What's your favorite Ozzy song?

578
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:35.140
I would have to say Diary of a Madman. Okay.

579
00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:37.559
All right. What about Dio?

580
00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:42.910
I had Blizzard of Oz on eight track. Oh, all right.

581
00:24:42.950 --> 00:24:43.029
Mr.

582
00:24:43.170 --> 00:24:48.150
Crowley. Like, okay. So eight tracks, it would cut off

583
00:24:48.230 --> 00:24:51.380
in the middle. Like it'll fade out a song to

584
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.869
change tracks and then fade into the next song. Mr.

585
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:58.750
Crowley was cut off in the middle. Oh. So it would, like,

586
00:24:58.809 --> 00:25:01.430
fade out and then fade back in.

587
00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:03.900
The fidelity would just kind of bump out, yeah.

588
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.420
And it was like, if you had a crossfade on

589
00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:11.529
what you would do now, it was in the final recording,

590
00:25:11.589 --> 00:25:14.299
you know? And then... Like, you used to have to

591
00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:17.980
put a matchbook under the 8-track, or else it would play, like,

592
00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:21.349
really slow. Oh, okay. Like, the struggles we had with

593
00:25:21.380 --> 00:25:23.789
cassettes and 8-tracks and all that shit.

594
00:25:23.809 --> 00:25:24.529
Yeah, yeah.

595
00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:28.690
You don't have nowadays. No. But artists got paid, so

596
00:25:28.710 --> 00:25:29.609
I'll take the struggle.

597
00:25:29.670 --> 00:25:33.190
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, for Dio,

598
00:25:33.349 --> 00:25:36.730
I'd say Die Young. Die Young is my favorite Dio Sabbath.

599
00:25:36.829 --> 00:25:38.410
That's a good one. I used to hang out at

600
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:39.759
his house in the Valley, Dio.

601
00:25:40.460 --> 00:25:40.859
Ah, okay.

602
00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:41.900
He was a cool dude.

603
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:42.349
Uh.

604
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:48.339
My favorite D.O.? Hmm. That's also a tough one. I

605
00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:53.359
will tell you my favorite D.O. experience having nothing that D.O.

606
00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:59.019
didn't do. So there's this thing, Bowl for Ronnie every year.

607
00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:06.380
They do it for D.O., the Rockstars Bowl, and the

608
00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:07.680
money's raised for cancer.

609
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.400
That's like Tom Morello and Eddie do that, right?

610
00:26:10.500 --> 00:26:10.900
Yeah, yeah.

611
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:11.299
Okay.

612
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.519
I interviewed Tom Morello. I was given a hard minute.

613
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:15.660
Nice.

614
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:16.940
To do an interview with Morello.

615
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:17.660
That's awesome, dude.

616
00:26:17.779 --> 00:26:19.720
And I did it. That's fucking awesome. 59 seconds, I

617
00:26:19.740 --> 00:26:20.359
hit stop.

618
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:21.299
Wow.

619
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:27.150
But my claim is I was interviewing Jack Black.

620
00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:28.269
Ah, okay.

621
00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:28.869
At that.

622
00:26:29.269 --> 00:26:29.569
Oh, nice.

623
00:26:29.950 --> 00:26:32.410
And he started singing Neon Nights.

624
00:26:32.990 --> 00:26:33.609
Oh, nice.

625
00:26:33.910 --> 00:26:36.049
And then he would sing one line and he would

626
00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:39.599
hand the mic back to me. And I'm like, I'm

627
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.740
not the singer you are. And he's like laughing at

628
00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:44.400
the end. He's like, I was trying to get you

629
00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.720
to sing. I'm like, yeah, you don't want me to sing.

630
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.809
That's very Jack Black. That's a total Jack Black story.

631
00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:54.349
He is totally in person what you think he is.

632
00:26:54.410 --> 00:26:54.990
Yeah, yeah.

633
00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:56.970
I was hoping that. Yeah, yeah. For sure.

634
00:26:57.309 --> 00:26:59.390
Did you tell us your favorite Black Sabbath song?

635
00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:00.490
No, I avoided that.

636
00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:04.170
So we're going to be going back to that. Don't

637
00:27:04.210 --> 00:27:06.750
say your favorite one. Say your favorite one on Saturday,

638
00:27:06.829 --> 00:27:07.470
September 5th.

639
00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:11.140
2026 what's that favorite one because it's going to be

640
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.059
a different one on September 6th.

641
00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:17.319
Okay let's see fuck I gotta go through the whole

642
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.829
catalog in my head like one of the first albums

643
00:27:21.890 --> 00:27:23.910
I ever owned in my life was we sold our

644
00:27:23.950 --> 00:27:28.849
souls for rock and roll fuck I would have to

645
00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:30.460
say Black Sabbath.

646
00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:34.920
Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath I have.

647
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.579
To say that what about Warning That's a great one, too. Oh,

648
00:27:38.589 --> 00:27:40.450
I love Warning so much. And The Wizard. Yeah, and

649
00:27:40.490 --> 00:27:40.970
The Wizard.

650
00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:44.990
Yeah, dude. But who was playing yesterday? I think it

651
00:27:45.029 --> 00:27:48.410
was yesterday, and they started off with Black Sabbath for

652
00:27:48.450 --> 00:27:51.430
a short time. I'm trying to fucking remember. And I

653
00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:53.900
was like, fuck, yeah. I didn't even want to hear

654
00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:56.259
their set. I wanted to hear them play Black Sabbath.

655
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.089
But then it cut off, and who the fuck was it?

656
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.099
Damn it. I can't remember. I don't know. It all

657
00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:05.730
swirls in your head sometimes. You go to all these shows,

658
00:28:05.750 --> 00:28:08.279
and it's like, And it's too fucking hot.

659
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.980
I wish we could have played a cover.

660
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.579
We love playing Flying High again.

661
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.079
Nice.

662
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:19.900
I love Randy Rhoads.

663
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:20.880
I saw Randy.

664
00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:22.500
You saw Randy?

665
00:28:22.740 --> 00:28:26.250
I saw Randy live before he died. So now you're

666
00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:30.930
going to dig deep into my stories. I did one

667
00:28:30.970 --> 00:28:33.730
of those things when I was a teenager. I told

668
00:28:34.349 --> 00:28:37.079
my dad that I was sleeping over my friend's house.

669
00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:40.539
My friend said he was sleeping over my house and

670
00:28:40.579 --> 00:28:45.039
we went to Ozzy, Randy Rhoads. We get home, we're

671
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:50.069
hiding behind my house from my dad and my neighbor

672
00:28:50.930 --> 00:28:54.390
comes out and she goes, oh, she saw all the swag.

673
00:28:54.430 --> 00:28:57.009
She goes, oh, did you boys go to Ozzy last night?

674
00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:02.440
And we're like, fuck, we're busted. She goes, wait right there.

675
00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:07.910
Let me get my husband. The husband comes out, calls

676
00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:10.390
us up to the house. This is my next door neighbor.

677
00:29:11.230 --> 00:29:14.470
He has a studio in his house that's wall-to-wall cassette tapes.

678
00:29:14.549 --> 00:29:18.609
Turns out he's Ozzy's fucking promoter. And then he hands

679
00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:21.259
me this tape, gives us swag, and he hands me

680
00:29:21.299 --> 00:29:24.259
this tape. He says, this band's not in the U.S. yet,

681
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.880
but in six months they're going to be huge. And

682
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.920
that was Except, Restless and Wild.

683
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:30.460
No shit.

684
00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:33.380
No shit. Yeah.

685
00:29:33.380 --> 00:29:35.549
It's not even like an instrument or anything. One of

686
00:29:35.549 --> 00:29:37.670
the most cherished things that I have, I have it

687
00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:41.900
hanging up in my living room. My great friend, Rob Pierce,

688
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:47.279
his girlfriend, Amanda Peters, her uncle was the house photographer

689
00:29:47.339 --> 00:29:52.980
at the Detroit Masonic Temple. And Ozzy Osbourne's band went

690
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.710
in there, and he snapped all these photos of Ozzy.

691
00:29:57.329 --> 00:30:00.869
And Ozzy You know, the big name here, Randy Rhodes.

692
00:30:01.089 --> 00:30:01.970
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

693
00:30:02.109 --> 00:30:05.230
Of these just amazing photos that you just can't find.

694
00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:11.630
And Rob's girlfriend, Amanda, reached out to the uncle and

695
00:30:11.670 --> 00:30:14.799
got these printed for me. And I have these all

696
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.519
framed right there, you know, as a Michigan boy.

697
00:30:17.660 --> 00:30:19.460
I don't know.

698
00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:19.680
Nice.

699
00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:21.720
I never met the guy or anything like that. But

700
00:30:21.740 --> 00:30:24.880
when you see things like that where they're in your territory,

701
00:30:25.329 --> 00:30:28.619
you know, that... It makes it a little more personal.

702
00:30:29.099 --> 00:30:31.920
And just seeing him on that, you know, and it was.

703
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:35.660
It's amazing. I have a photo of him somewhere I'll

704
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.140
show you after the interview. It's amazing. It's amazing.

705
00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:38.559
He is.

706
00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:42.599
Looks like nothing that you've ever seen.

707
00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:43.420
Nice.

708
00:30:43.539 --> 00:30:46.289
It is so cool, man. I just love.

709
00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:51.069
I love just how Randy Rhoades just approaches that thing.

710
00:30:51.089 --> 00:30:56.390
It is pure intelligence and attitude.

711
00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:00.559
He was one of the reasons I started playing guitar

712
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.269
and stopped. Because....

713
00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.660
He's so young. That's unbelievable.

714
00:31:09.700 --> 00:31:12.819
He's younger, well, way younger than us. It's like unbelievable.

715
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.279
And we're talking about him right now.

716
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.559
I know, right?

717
00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:17.640
In 2026 and what, like, it's not even.

718
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.269
The first week of September. He wasn't even around that long,

719
00:31:20.410 --> 00:31:23.650
you know? No. It's amazing that some of the greatest

720
00:31:23.750 --> 00:31:28.069
artists in rock history, especially the 27 Club, that they

721
00:31:28.130 --> 00:31:32.069
never really were around that long. But everybody knows them

722
00:31:32.109 --> 00:31:33.430
for decades and decades.

723
00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:35.730
You know, there's always, like, that theory that, like, with, like,

724
00:31:35.769 --> 00:31:38.109
those rock and rollers that die early, you know, because

725
00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:40.890
it makes people want more and it makes it more nostalgic.

726
00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:42.430
It's a horrible thing to think about.

727
00:31:42.650 --> 00:31:42.880
Yeah.

728
00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:44.650
Like, where it's like, oh, yeah, you're going to release

729
00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:48.960
this real cool album. Well, maybe you can strategically die.

730
00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:52.180
Yeah.

731
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.819
You know what I mean? What a horrible thing to

732
00:31:54.859 --> 00:31:56.859
think about. But that's a lot of them, you know?

733
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.359
I mean, it's like... Randy Rhoads, Jimi Hendrix.

734
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:02.119
Janis Joplin.

735
00:32:02.140 --> 00:32:04.059
Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison.

736
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:04.960
Kurt Cobain.

737
00:32:05.259 --> 00:32:06.579
Yeah.

738
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.000
There's a long list.

739
00:32:08.019 --> 00:32:09.519
There's so many. Graham Parsons.

740
00:32:10.779 --> 00:32:11.079
Right?

741
00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:17.579
Country Western. I get it.

742
00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:21.650
I don't get it, but I understand the realm of

743
00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:26.380
it because you go out while you're on top and

744
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:27.980
then it's like now people want more.

745
00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:31.839
And when they want more, there's, like, this aura.

746
00:32:32.299 --> 00:32:32.859
Yeah.

747
00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:35.660
There's, like, this, like, now everyone starts imagining. Now you're, like,

748
00:32:36.289 --> 00:32:37.849
you know, a fictional character now.

749
00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:38.349
Yeah.

750
00:32:38.450 --> 00:32:41.369
You know, like, you did no wrong. You did no good.

751
00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:43.569
You know, like, you did what you did, and now

752
00:32:43.650 --> 00:32:47.910
everyone just imagines after. You know, but who would have.

753
00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:51.390
The interesting part with Randy is he was actually going

754
00:32:51.410 --> 00:32:53.200
to leave Ozzy before he died.

755
00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.019
And just imagine what he would have done without that.

756
00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:56.740
Right.

757
00:32:57.099 --> 00:32:58.700
And then, oh, my God.

758
00:32:58.740 --> 00:33:00.390
He was going back to school. That's what he was

759
00:33:00.410 --> 00:33:00.730
going to do.

760
00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:02.009
He was sick of playing metal.

761
00:33:02.869 --> 00:33:07.650
Imagine the lessons and the videos that we could see

762
00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:10.839
on Randy's fretboard of his guitar after.

763
00:33:11.150 --> 00:33:13.380
Because he was a teacher. I think he maybe wanted

764
00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:14.319
to go back and teach.

765
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.220
Yeah, exactly.

766
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.200
Probably be a professor, right? That's what he.

767
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:18.279
Was looking to do.

768
00:33:18.299 --> 00:33:18.880
And it would have been.

769
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.200
I bet if Randy stayed alive, people would be a

770
00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:27.339
little bit better at guitar.

771
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:29.980
Maybe so, maybe so.

772
00:33:31.019 --> 00:33:34.299
Or people would have quit, for sure. Even the playing field, yeah.

773
00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:37.180
Yeah, I quit because I found out he practiced eight

774
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.039
hours a day. I'm like, fuck, I don't even have

775
00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:41.680
eight hours a day. Fuck it.

776
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.869
Well, that's like Eddie Van Halen, you know?

777
00:33:44.609 --> 00:33:45.130
Exactly.

778
00:33:45.210 --> 00:33:48.829
Eddie Van Halen. All of them. 10,000 hours, yeah.

779
00:33:48.950 --> 00:33:51.750
All the great ones. That's what I like to point out,

780
00:33:51.930 --> 00:33:56.079
is that People think that musicians have it easy. Fucking

781
00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:59.109
one of the hardest jobs in the world. And the

782
00:33:59.789 --> 00:34:03.329
prices that you have to pay and the dues you

783
00:34:03.369 --> 00:34:05.150
have to pay to be good.

784
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.920
And to stay good looking. It's so hard.

785
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.579
I know, right? It's brutal. Some of you need Just

786
00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:14.099
For Men.

787
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.280
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I do.

788
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.219
Yeah, that's who I was referring to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

789
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.300
You look more like the boomer in the band.

790
00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:23.010
The what?

791
00:34:23.309 --> 00:34:23.869
The boomer.

792
00:34:24.090 --> 00:34:26.170
The boomer. I'm getting there, man. I'm getting there, dude.

793
00:34:26.449 --> 00:34:28.610
The sunlight is not my friend, you know?

794
00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:31.590
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys.

795
00:34:32.070 --> 00:34:33.949
Buy your merch, because they can't listen to my show

796
00:34:33.969 --> 00:34:35.639
unless they buy your merch. Yeah, right.

797
00:34:35.659 --> 00:34:35.820
And.

798
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.559
Anything else we haven't covered that they need to know

799
00:34:38.579 --> 00:34:39.840
about you guys?

800
00:34:41.469 --> 00:34:45.469
So we're out on all the streaming platforms. If you

801
00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:50.820
want to check out our Instagram, it's cowboyangels. Flat out

802
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.280
on Instagram. Cowboy Angels band on Facebook. Cowboy Angels band.

803
00:34:54.739 --> 00:34:59.539
Cowboy Angels rock on TikTok. And, you know, we're out there.

804
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.599
Just type in Cowboy Angels. There's like a hundred cover bands,

805
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.019
but you'll see us right at the top.

806
00:35:06.019 --> 00:35:07.840
And they're the non-country one.

807
00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:09.780
We're the non-country. We're the hard rock ones.

808
00:35:10.099 --> 00:35:14.500
There you go. Yeah. Well, you guys definitely hard rocked Rock, Oklahoma.

809
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.489
Thank you so much. That's what we came to do, man.

810
00:35:16.610 --> 00:35:20.480
There you go. Mission accomplished. Yes. And I'm glad you

811
00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:22.179
were here, and thanks for being on the Adventures of

812
00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:22.659
Pipe Man.

813
00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:24.400
Thank you so much. You were the first one to

814
00:35:24.420 --> 00:35:24.860
hit us up.

815
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:26.219
Well, there you go.

816
00:35:26.219 --> 00:35:27.099
You were the first one, dude.

817
00:35:27.139 --> 00:35:28.119
That's because I'm the best.

818
00:35:28.340 --> 00:35:30.059
You are the best. I can tell.

819
00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:31.480
And so are you guys.

820
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:31.880
Thank you.

821
00:35:31.900 --> 00:35:33.199
Can't wait to see more of you.

822
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:34.579
Fuck yeah, dude. Thank you so much.

823
00:35:36.539 --> 00:35:40.719
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man

824
00:35:40.739 --> 00:35:42.159
on W4CY Radio.