Inside Cowboy Angels: From Country Confusion to Hard Rock Legends at Rocklahoma

0:04 This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures of Pipe Man W4CY radio and I'm here. With cowboy angels nice here at rocklahoma or or should we call it rocklah hell because it's fucking a hundred. Degrees it's hotter than hell yeah yeah how the hell. Do you guys i just want to know how the hell you guys fucking play in this shit. How yeah it was easy to not it was easy to not play like it's easy just to lay down and just like sweat it out but you just drink a lot of water a lot of water and electrolytes and you just get right into it.

0:54 I think, too, it's like you get in this zone once you get on stage that you don't give yourself permission to feel that shit. No. It's not until afterwards that you die. You pay for it afterwards, yeah. Yeah, Darian had a little death afterwards. Yeah, I mean, you just got to ignore what your body's telling you and just play funky guitar and, I don't know, just... Look good doing it. And just know that you can play as hard as you want now and you got all. Day to be tired. Yeah. That say, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You got to let the denim breathe, you know, cause you're going out there, you know, you're going to work, you know, hard rock bands. We like to wear denim and leather and stuff like that. So it's, this is like, Crazy for us, yeah.

1:39 I know, right? Like, we were just talking about it when we were eating lunch earlier, me and a couple other media people. I'm like, yeah, if I was GWAR, I wouldn't even come out in this shit. No, no way. No way. GWAR's not on the bill. I would say, spray me with blood, please, right now. Blood and cum, right now. I know, right? Actually, the... The first time I ever experienced this was at Rock, Oklahoma. Like, for years, I've avoided the GWAR shit. Yeah. Okay? I've interviewed them. I've avoided it. And then last, it was a couple years ago, they were here. And we were up side stage. And this girl I was hanging with, she went down so she could purposely get hit by GWAR.

2:28 And then she came up and gave me a big hug. Oh, no. All that work for nothing, dude. I know, right? I thought I escaped it, but I didn't. Did you keep her? No. No. I don't blame you. And now tomorrow I have to avoid the Faygo. Yeah, yeah, the Faygo. Oh, man. Holy shit. Yeah, that's, see, shit like that's fun. And I think that's, like what you're saying is, you get up there and you perform a live show. Yes. You know, if I want to listen to an album, I'll just listen to an album. But part of the live show is entertainment, no matter what it is out there. I think the biggest influence that I had to performing in the heat was when we drove here, we saw the people in tents everywhere. and we had it we had it we had a we had a hotel room that was like 61 degrees right and i was like well we got to give it our all because these people slept in tents in like a hundred degree night and i was like yeah they're out there yeah and i'm like you just can't you can't you can't bitch out and give it your all and uh that was my main thing i mean that was that was just uh just monumental to see that people are actually uh Tent camping?

3:49 Yeah. This is the hottest weather. No doubt. It's dusty and hot. I live in South Florida, and I can't wait to get home to cool down. Yeah, that's it. Who fucking says that? We're in South Florida. Near West Palm Beach. Oh, okay. I was born in Altamont Springs. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Florida Man. There you go. Yeah. Well, let's hand over the mic to Cody McCoy, the boomer and the basher of the band. The boomer and the basher. I don't got much to say. Is there a question I'm supposed to be answering?

4:29 No, man, just say something. What's up, man? How about what was the first time in your life you knew this is what you had to do with your life? I mean, according to my parents... I knew it when I was like five. Nice. I don't really remember that. But I got real serious when I was like eight or nine. So it must have started at five. I thought I was Lars Ulrich, you know. I set my little miniature drums up exactly like Lars. Black album style. Four rack toms. You know, it's like just silly. Now see, I'm the one that when the black album came out. Yeah, you were probably pissed, right? Oh yeah, the 25 Metallica fans before that.

5:09 Yeah. One of us. I was like. fucking poser sellouts. Yeah, I know. But you know what? Monumental move on their part, though. They're still my favorite band today. And the thing is, is if it weren't for them doing that. We wouldn't be sitting here right now, probably. 100%. They set a new standard, man. No doubt. And bands went harder after that. Exactly. Because the standard was so high. Well, also, they saw that the opportunity was there. Because back in those times, we were like, if a band played on the radio, fuck them. We're not listening to them anymore. And bands didn't want to get on the radio. 100%. So it changed the whole landscape of it.

5:52 100%. Then.... A few years ago, I was doing media coverage at Download. Metallica was headlining. So they have their own system. Yeah, right. Thunder Audio. It's designed so that wherever you are in the festival, you can hear them clearly, like you're up front. 15 miles away, people were calling the cops complaining because they could hear Metallica loud and clear. Insane. Yeah, they fly subs. 15 miles. It's fucking crazy, man. Oh, my God. Incredible. And I was standing right by that speaker. Like, how I can hear you now, I don't know. It's a different level of excellence, man. I know, right? It's at a completely different echelon.

6:33 It's not like when you see him at the Troubadour and you couldn't even hear James singing. Right. You know how that is. The little clubs, it's always the PA that's the shit. Right. But the vibe is impeccable. Exactly. There's nothing better. Right. Like my first club show ever, I was like, fuck, I'm never going to a real concert ever again. Totally different, yeah. It was Motley Crue before they had an album. When they were horror punk, they weren't even glam yet. Insane. And they were trying to light the Roxy on the Sunset Strip on fire to bring Satan in. Crazy, dude. I was like, I'm sold. Yeah, man. That's insane. Right? So how did this band all come together?

7:16 I'm going to let Austin take that one. He's the OG. I'm fresh meat, baby. So a lot of people hear Cowboy Angels and they think like country rock. And it's... I would think that. Yeah, so... What just started... Did you play. At Born and Raised, too? What's that? Did you play at Born and Raised, too? I'm just kidding. No, no, no. We're Rock, Lahoma boys, dude. So, it kind of started was. I was in a hard rock band before this and I wanted to do like an acoustic trio project, you know, but I was like, I was just learning acoustic guitar. I'm like, what's easy to learn? I'm like country and folk. I'm like, all right. And Southern rock, you know? So I knew this guy, Darian would be down with that.

7:58 And so we started getting together and picking some shit. And I was like, we started playing Jimi Hendrix and like, And, like, fucking, like, Deep Purple. I'm like, fuck this. Fuck this. This is my new hard rock project. We're keeping the name, though. We're keeping the name. Because Cowboy Angels, it can be hard. Yeah, it can be hard rock. If you think of it, it can be hard rock. Because all the, like, the... Glam metal bands and stuff, they all wore cowboy boots and shit. They all kind of looked kind of country a little bit. How about Pantera, Cowboys from Hell? Exactly, exactly. So you're the Angels, they're from Hell. Yeah, exactly. Boom, dude, I love that. I've never even thought of that. Now you have to go on tour together. Yeah, we should. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach Wilde showed Darian a thing or two.

8:41 Right? Yeah, just go up to him tomorrow and say, hey, dude. Oh, yeah, BLS is right, yeah. Bring us on tour with you because we're the Angels and you're the Cowboys from now on. Oh, my God, yeah, that would be great. That would be so great. But, yeah, anyways, I hit this guy up, and I had a bunch of songs stockpiled, so me and him started, like, riffing those out, and then, you know, we put a band together, and then we hooked up with Rick, and then eventually we hooked up with Cody. And they're really fast learners, and they really made everything kind of glue together. Nice. We're really fast learners. This rhythm section is, bar none, the best. I love it. The best.

9:22 Well, then let's hear from him, because we haven't heard from him yet. Bass man. What up? So my first question is, are you a surfer? Am I a surfer? Well, you're wearing the Hurley, so I had to ask. Oh, I've had this tank top for probably 15 years. Is that your gig tank top? This is my post-gig tank top. Yeah, there you go. When it's 100, yeah. Right? I looked down at my phone before I was like, fuck, 100. It doesn't even get 100 in Florida. Get me the fuck out of here. Yeah, us Michigan boys, we're sweating. Right? You guys aren't used to this at all, huh? It gets hot in the summer, but it does not get quite this hot in Florida. September. So, what do you think about the vibe in Michigan compared to the vibe at Rock, Oklahoma? Oh, man.

10:09 Well, there's a lot of rockers in Michigan. It's pretty similar. I think if you could take up all the rock fans and bring them to Oklahoma, you wouldn't know the difference. There's a lot of. Rockers that come out and support small shows, big shows, all kinds of stuff. I really am enjoying the fine music fans of Oklahoma. They seem to be right up our alley as far as our Michigan. And have you been to the campground yet? We have not, no. Okay, so you've got to go there and let me know how that compares to Michigan camping because it's a little insane in the Rock, Oklahoma campground. Oh, we'll check that out for sure. I saw a mini tornado in the parking lot behind the Renegade stage today. Really?

10:52 And I was like, guys, tornado, tornado, tornado. It was like a little mini dust tornado like around the port-a-potties. Wow. It was funny, too, because I was freaking out a little bit. I have some PTSD this year because almost every festival since May I've gotten evacuated from. Oh, wow. I'm walking in this morning, and they were doing the test of the evacuation thing. I'm like, fuck, no. I don't see any storm. I mean, we're going good so far, man. Like, this is great, yeah. But I have been evacuated at Rock, Oklahoma. Have you? I think I've been evacuated at pretty much every festival there is. I had to get evacuated off of the stage after almost having a heat stroke.

11:34 Right, and. That was hardcore. The band I interviewed before you, the drummer passed out, and they gave him, like, the jacket, the hydration with the cool-down jacket. There were two. Shout-out to EMS. Shout-out to EMS. Big time, dude. They are taking good care of people. It's hardcore. I wish I would have known that prior. Like, I would love to. I'd like to. I would have. Yeah. Right? If I knew that was, you know, the insurance, you know, I never know. I never know. What your insurance plan is until it happens. That could be some new merch for you guys. Your own cooling jacket.

12:15 Yeah, I would have went a little harder if I knew that was waiting for me. I know, right? He would say, yeah, it was really good. Dress me up. Two people taken out by helicopters yesterday. Bunch of ambulances took people out, but they've taken good care of people. God bless these people that are staying, you know, for the weekend. I mean, what I was saying before, when I was like my biggest inspiration of just going hard, you know, I knew I was going to be... Like, we're all denim and leather up there, you know, and I don't even know what the temperature is. But, you know, in an emotional standpoint, it's hot as fuck. No doubt. It is like it's different. It's a different sun, even though there's clouds everywhere. It doesn't... This is fucking weird, man.

12:59 It's really fucking hot, man. I mean, look at the clouds. It's gorgeous. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you can't look at the clouds. We're on a radio interview, but, like, you're going to have to, like, take our word. We're going to paint a picture for you with poetry. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. It's like the southwestern, like, paintings you see in, like, a thrift store, you know? It's just, like, mostly clouds and a guy and a horse, you know? It's beautiful out here, dude. It's so nice. Yeah. Yeah. I like your necklace, too. It says, fuck it. It says, fuck it, yep. I like that better than the zero fucks given shit. I think so. I think zero fucks given is stupid. You should give a fuck. But there's times you should just say, fuck it. Fuck it is always good to have in your back pocket, for sure.

13:41 For sure. You've got to give some fucks, but then when it's time to say fuck it, you just fuck it. You just say fuck it. You just say fuck it. You don't stress about it. You just say fuck it. You walk away, you know? There it is. Yep. So. How did all of you end up getting into music initially? We already got his answer. So he's free. How about you guys and him? So, hi, Austin Ouellette, vocals. So I started out, my parents had me on a piano at like four years old. And then I did that for a couple years, and then I joined... band in middle school I was on a trumpet for a while and then they said hey we got opening for a bass player so I tried that I didn't get it but I was a bass player for a while and then I I was writing songs and I didn't like how the vocalist was singing it in my old band so I started singing it so you know that's how it went that's.

14:34 Kind of how it works right Darian Lone guitar player biggest but yeah yeah yeah and uh i mean honestly yeah what what made me want to get into music was uh my grandpa raymond hall he was like he was like country western guitar player great singer and everything and he he inspired me to like really just do what you wanted you know and pursue pursue with the music and uh and i i just kept at it you know and i and uh It's hard for me to describe because I wasn't really thinking or talking during the whole journey where I would just pick up and play.

15:19 That was like right... I don't know how old I was. It's hard to say. 25. Yeah, it was like a few years ago. No, it was pretty much right when I could wrap my hand around a fretboard of a guitar. Nice. And then just went at it and listened to... as much as I could and uh... just just kind of uh... being like a like a like a uh. what's the word uh. man it's too high. Here I know right you were obsessed. Yeah yeah that's the perfect word for it I was just obsessed with it I wasn't really Word for Darian. Obsessed. Everything he does is 110%. Everything.

16:00 Everything. It's hard for me to, like, timeline it because I wasn't, like, thinking or talking. Right. I was just, like, just going at it and I wasn't really... Yeah. Yeah. It was. I wouldn't trade it for the world, man. It was a great, you know, just childhood of just. no, no, no. Well, I don't think Oklahoma has like a consumer's energy. I'm like thinking of like bills and shit, you know, but like, you know, just like when I was like with no, no care where you could just like, just fuck off. And just when you hear something, you try to learn it. And then like, you're like playing like the same thing over and over and over again. And every time it just is, is amazing. It's like, I don't know. It's obsession. It's, I don't know.

16:44 Most good musicians are obsessed. A psychologist out there could probably give you a real fancy word for it, but I don't know it. To me, a good musician is always obsessed. I played instruments when I was younger and I was not obsessed. I was obsessed with music. I wasn't obsessed with doing scales or the practice pad on the drums. You mentioned trumpet. I remember I was in the orchestra and I was in the percussion section. One time I was like, Fuck. They're playing trumpet over there. I should try that, too. I never did, but... Trumpet's fun. Trumpet's swaggy, man. Trumpet's, like, yeah. See, you need a trumpet player in the band to be different now.

17:24 Do a little two-tone, a little ska. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. You could be the new wave of ska. We could. We could. We could. I know a guy who does all that shit. See, there you go. We need a good side man with a harmonica and a trumpet. Hey, Ozzy used a harmonica. I remember when I was in grade school, I was in the band and I did percussion. And I never knew how to read any of that shit. I saw the notations and all that stuff. I'm like, well, if they're real close together, that means you play fast. And if they're really wide... then, like, you don't play fast.

18:08 I never, I was gonna say with obsession, with obsession, dude, no, man, I was gonna say, I wasn't, like, I, I just, like, I was just, I, I never learned how to play, like, scale, I know, like, you know, shit, shit scale, I don't know, like, the scales or anything, I know a couple, um, but I just, like, was, like, That's what. Turned me off, man. My guitar teachers tell me to do these scales like hours a day. I'm like, fuck this. Yeah, absolutely. I fucking hated school, man. And when you're learning theory, man, it makes me feel like I'm at school. Right. That sucks. Exactly. I just wanted to play the fucking thing. I was going to say, I'll just learn like 15 solos and I'll take a piece of every 15 solos that I learned into something that we're doing here. It's like a puzzle piece. I take all these different things.

18:59 I never learned it. I'll learn the solos note for note because. I heard something I really liked. But keep it going. And he fucking makes great solos too. He writes them. He doesn't need to learn them. He writes them. People are going to be learning his solos at some point. Of course it will. Playman, I got a question. Yeah. How do you stay so cool, dude? Can I see your vape? We're dying over here. We're sweating. I'm helping the fucking huge fan over there. You haven't seen twice today I had to wipe the bleeding out of my hair off my forehead. Oh, really? Yeah. Nice. My hair is not cooperating with this weather. Okay. Well, you look good right now, dude. You got it together for us.

19:40 Well, because I'm in the interview. When the interview's over, then I'll die. Yeah. That's how we are on stage. Yeah. Exactly. It's the same thing. how do you get started. So our og drummer for this band's name is justin clifford he was my my best friend shout out jc um he's on everything that's recorded currently if you're if you stream our stuff um But Justin was and is still to this day one of my very best friends. And he played drums, obviously. And one of our other friends, Tyler, played guitar. And they needed a bass player. So they said, hey, Rick, you should probably learn how to play bass. That's a long story short. The long story was that my parents were really into music. Not playing it, but listening to it.

20:27 Great album collection. Great rock and roll fans, my parents. And I started playing bass. I went to Guitar Center and checked it out and fell in love with it and then became obsessed. And years later, I'm still playing. Okay, so I have a trivia question for you. Oh, boy. That I've been asking all the bass players. Okay. Who's the most famous bass player that was originally a guitarist and the only reason he played bass is because they already had two guitarists and so he drew the short straw and had to play bass. Gieser Butler? Nope. I mean, that was Geezer Butler too, though. Was it? Yeah. Well, that's pretty good. Now I learned. You got me on. Are you going Paul McCartney?

21:10 That's it. Okay, so I got two points. See, he knows it all. He gets the double jeopardy. Nice. Geezer Butler is probably my favorite bassist. Nice. Even though he was a transplant guitarist, he gets the pass of all time because I model a lot of my playing after him and John Paul Jones. He's a badass guy, and Geezer's a nice dude. I've never met him. I'd love to. I've met him a couple times. I've interviewed him. He's a nice freaking dude. I've read his book and studied his playing, and he seems like a great person, but. I'd love to hang out with him. So now, let's see if I can get you on another trivia question. Okay. What was Sabbath's original name? Earth. Fuck, you are good. Because nobody gets that.

21:53 Oh, I'm a Sabbath nut a bit. Me and Cody both are. Okay, so now I really have to think. Which album, Sabbath album, Ozzy era Sabbath album, is Ozzy's least favorite? In fact, he doesn't like the album at all. Doesn't like the album at all. Yeah. Cody, do you know? I don't know. But Volume 4 is what I would say. Nope. Technical Ecstasy? Close. Never Say Die. Never Say... Okay. I was thinking Technical Ecstasy. And I kind of like Never Say Die.

22:34 I like it. Technical Ecstasy I never really got into. Okay. But Never Say Die, like Johnny Blade's a great fucking song. Yeah, for sure. You know? I like bits and pieces of every. every black sabbath album the earlier stuff i could listen to you know obviously straight through but um i might skip around on the later stuff but um i love it. Do you like black sabbath with ian gillen i thought that was a little weird. With with ian yeah i i don't i'm listening to it but i don't i don't go back and listen to. It yeah it ends great with deep purple i thought it was weird with sabbath but dio was great. Yeah yeah he was a different different band but awesome so yeah It was. A totally different band. That was the first song I ever learned on guitar was Heaven and Hell.

23:17 Oh, that's a great song. Great riffs. Yeah, totally. I was like, fuck that. I don't want to learn Smoke on the Water. Everybody learns that. I want to learn Heaven and Hell. Rock and roll. I dig it. What's your favorite Sabbath song? I want to know this, too. Wow, that's a hard one. I don't even know if I can answer. I'm going to go... Furious wear boots. Can we all say our favorite Sabbath song? Yes. Dude, Hole in the Sky or fucking Sweet Leaf, dude. Drum songs. It's just crazy swag on that song.

24:00 Nice. I got a deep cut. Thrill of it all. Nice. I got a deep cut myself. My name is Darian Lone, guitarist at Cowboy Angels, and my favorite Black Sabbath song is Killing Yourself to Live. That's a great song. Fuck yeah, dude. Fuck yeah. I don't even know if I can pick my favorite Sabbath song. Like, they're all fucking good. There is one. There is one. He just doesn't know. We're talking Ozzy, though, right? I could tell you my favorite Ozzy song. What's your favorite Ozzy song? I would have to say Diary of a Madman. Okay. All right. What about Dio? I had Blizzard of Oz on eight track. Oh, all right.

24:42 Mr. Crowley. Like, okay. So eight tracks, it would cut off in the middle. Like it'll fade out a song to change tracks and then fade into the next song. Mr. Crowley was cut off in the middle. Oh. So it would, like, fade out and then fade back in. The fidelity would just kind of bump out, yeah. And it was like, if you had a crossfade on what you would do now, it was in the final recording, you know? And then... Like, you used to have to put a matchbook under the 8-track, or else it would play, like, really slow. Oh, okay. Like, the struggles we had with cassettes and 8-tracks and all that shit.

25:23 Yeah, yeah. You don't have nowadays. No. But artists got paid, so I'll take the struggle. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, for Dio, I'd say Die Young. Die Young is my favorite Dio Sabbath. That's a good one. I used to hang out at his house in the Valley, Dio. Ah, okay. He was a cool dude. Uh. My favorite D.O.? Hmm. That's also a tough one. I will tell you my favorite D.O. experience having nothing that D.O. didn't do. So there's this thing, Bowl for Ronnie every year. They do it for D.O., the Rockstars Bowl, and the money's raised for cancer.

26:08 That's like Tom Morello and Eddie do that, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I interviewed Tom Morello. I was given a hard minute. Nice. To do an interview with Morello. That's awesome, dude. And I did it. That's fucking awesome. 59 seconds, I hit stop. Wow. But my claim is I was interviewing Jack Black. Ah, okay. At that. Oh, nice. And he started singing Neon Nights. Oh, nice. And then he would sing one line and he would hand the mic back to me. And I'm like, I'm not the singer you are. And he's like laughing at the end. He's like, I was trying to get you to sing. I'm like, yeah, you don't want me to sing.

26:48 That's very Jack Black. That's a total Jack Black story. He is totally in person what you think he is. Yeah, yeah. I was hoping that. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Did you tell us your favorite Black Sabbath song? No, I avoided that. So we're going to be going back to that. Don't say your favorite one. Say your favorite one on Saturday, September 5th. 2026 what's that favorite one because it's going to be a different one on September 6th. Okay let's see fuck I gotta go through the whole catalog in my head like one of the first albums I ever owned in my life was we sold our souls for rock and roll fuck I would have to say Black Sabbath.

27:30 Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath I have. To say that what about Warning That's a great one, too. Oh, I love Warning so much. And The Wizard. Yeah, and The Wizard. Yeah, dude. But who was playing yesterday? I think it was yesterday, and they started off with Black Sabbath for a short time. I'm trying to fucking remember. And I was like, fuck, yeah. I didn't even want to hear their set. I wanted to hear them play Black Sabbath. But then it cut off, and who the fuck was it? Damn it. I can't remember. I don't know. It all swirls in your head sometimes. You go to all these shows, and it's like, And it's too fucking hot. I wish we could have played a cover.

28:11 We love playing Flying High again. Nice. I love Randy Rhoads. I saw Randy. You saw Randy? I saw Randy live before he died. So now you're going to dig deep into my stories. I did one of those things when I was a teenager. I told my dad that I was sleeping over my friend's house. My friend said he was sleeping over my house and we went to Ozzy, Randy Rhoads. We get home, we're hiding behind my house from my dad and my neighbor comes out and she goes, oh, she saw all the swag.

28:54 She goes, oh, did you boys go to Ozzy last night? And we're like, fuck, we're busted. She goes, wait right there. Let me get my husband. The husband comes out, calls us up to the house. This is my next door neighbor. He has a studio in his house that's wall-to-wall cassette tapes. Turns out he's Ozzy's fucking promoter. And then he hands me this tape, gives us swag, and he hands me this tape. He says, this band's not in the U.S. yet, but in six months they're going to be huge. And that was Except, Restless and Wild. No shit. No shit. Yeah. It's not even like an instrument or anything. One of the most cherished things that I have, I have it hanging up in my living room. My great friend, Rob Pierce, his girlfriend, Amanda Peters, her uncle was the house photographer at the Detroit Masonic Temple. And Ozzy Osbourne's band went in there, and he snapped all these photos of Ozzy.

29:57 And Ozzy You know, the big name here, Randy Rhodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of these just amazing photos that you just can't find. And Rob's girlfriend, Amanda, reached out to the uncle and got these printed for me. And I have these all framed right there, you know, as a Michigan boy. I don't know. Nice. I never met the guy or anything like that. But when you see things like that where they're in your territory, you know, that... It makes it a little more personal. And just seeing him on that, you know, and it was. It's amazing. I have a photo of him somewhere I'll show you after the interview. It's amazing. It's amazing.

30:38 He is. Looks like nothing that you've ever seen. Nice. It is so cool, man. I just love. I love just how Randy Rhoades just approaches that thing. It is pure intelligence and attitude. He was one of the reasons I started playing guitar and stopped. Because.... He's so young. That's unbelievable. He's younger, well, way younger than us. It's like unbelievable. And we're talking about him right now. I know, right? In 2026 and what, like, it's not even. The first week of September. He wasn't even around that long, you know? No. It's amazing that some of the greatest artists in rock history, especially the 27 Club, that they never really were around that long. But everybody knows them for decades and decades.

31:33 You know, there's always, like, that theory that, like, with, like, those rock and rollers that die early, you know, because it makes people want more and it makes it more nostalgic. It's a horrible thing to think about. Yeah. Like, where it's like, oh, yeah, you're going to release this real cool album. Well, maybe you can strategically die. Yeah. You know what I mean? What a horrible thing to think about. But that's a lot of them, you know? I mean, it's like... Randy Rhoads, Jimi Hendrix. Janis Joplin. Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison. Kurt Cobain. Yeah. There's a long list. There's so many. Graham Parsons. Right? Country Western. I get it.

32:18 I don't get it, but I understand the realm of it because you go out while you're on top and then it's like now people want more. And when they want more, there's, like, this aura. Yeah. There's, like, this, like, now everyone starts imagining. Now you're, like, you know, a fictional character now. Yeah. You know, like, you did no wrong. You did no good. You know, like, you did what you did, and now everyone just imagines after. You know, but who would have. The interesting part with Randy is he was actually going to leave Ozzy before he died. And just imagine what he would have done without that. Right. And then, oh, my God.

32:58 He was going back to school. That's what he was going to do. He was sick of playing metal. Imagine the lessons and the videos that we could see on Randy's fretboard of his guitar after. Because he was a teacher. I think he maybe wanted to go back and teach. Yeah, exactly. Probably be a professor, right? That's what he. Was looking to do. And it would have been. I bet if Randy stayed alive, people would be a little bit better at guitar. Maybe so, maybe so. Or people would have quit, for sure. Even the playing field, yeah. Yeah, I quit because I found out he practiced eight hours a day. I'm like, fuck, I don't even have eight hours a day. Fuck it.

33:41 Well, that's like Eddie Van Halen, you know? Exactly. Eddie Van Halen. All of them. 10,000 hours, yeah. All the great ones. That's what I like to point out, is that People think that musicians have it easy. Fucking one of the hardest jobs in the world. And the prices that you have to pay and the dues you have to pay to be good. And to stay good looking. It's so hard. I know, right? It's brutal. Some of you need Just For Men. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I do. Yeah, that's who I was referring to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You look more like the boomer in the band.

34:22 The what? The boomer. The boomer. I'm getting there, man. I'm getting there, dude. The sunlight is not my friend, you know? So tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys. Buy your merch, because they can't listen to my show unless they buy your merch. Yeah, right. And. Anything else we haven't covered that they need to know about you guys? So we're out on all the streaming platforms. If you want to check out our Instagram, it's cowboyangels. Flat out on Instagram. Cowboy Angels band on Facebook. Cowboy Angels band. Cowboy Angels rock on TikTok. And, you know, we're out there. Just type in Cowboy Angels. There's like a hundred cover bands, but you'll see us right at the top.

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