July 28, 2026
Jutes Performs at Inkcarceration 2026 at Shawshank Prison - PipemanRadio Interview
This episode of Podcast features an engaging conversation centered around Jutes' experience performing at Inkcarceration 2026, held at the historic and haunted Ohio State Reformatory famous for Shawshank Redemption. The dialogue delves into the surreal atmosphere of playing music in such a unique location, the challenges of performing under tough environmental conditions, stories of haunted spaces, opening up about sobriety, reflections on creative independence within the music industry, and the evolution of Jutes’ career and personal journey. The discussion also highlights Jutes' upcoming album, tour, and his thoughts on embracing authenticity as an artist.Main Topics Covered
- Performing at Inkcarceration in Shawshank Prison
- Comparisons of European and American music festivals
- Tattoos: stories, meaning, and identity
- Experiences living in Canada, Los Angeles, and dealing with extreme weather
- Music industry evolution: creative control and record label relationships
- Haunted venues and supernatural stories
- Upcoming album "Chin Up Beautiful" and the "Smile You’re On Tour"
- The importance of authenticity and reasons for artistic longevity
- Canadian musicians and their influence
- The conversation focused on the striking setting of the festival at Shawshank Prison and its haunted legacy, creating a memorable backdrop for performances 00:27.
- One concept discussed was the feeling of returning to a European atmosphere, given the prison’s architecture and ambiance 00:41.
- Several points were raised, including how Jutes is often mistaken for other tattooed celebrities and the story behind a tattoo he acquired while blackout drunk, which he only discovered after becoming sober 02:48.
- The discussion explored performing during extreme humidity and smoke, detailing physical challenges like lightheadedness and muscle cramps, and describing how environmental variables affected the show 04:44.
- A key theme that emerged was the contrast between life in rural Canada and urban Los Angeles, touching on climate, lifestyle, and cultural changes 05:44.
- The conversation focused on how the record industry’s control impacted creativity, with specific insight into Jutes’ personal journey from feeling boxed in by major labels to finding success through creative autonomy 08:19.
- The challenges of staying true to oneself amid industry pressure were candidly explored 08:49.
- The discussion explored stories of haunted venues, including the infamous “Blood Prison” tour and firsthand accounts of unexplained events during music video shoots in places with dark histories 16:20.
- Information about the new album “Chin Up Beautiful” (out August 5th) and the largest tour to date, "Smile You’re On Tour," launching August 11th, was shared.
- Details for merch and music purchase were discussed, with a preference for fans to buy directly at shows 19:21.
- “I get confused for like every white guy with tattoos ever. I’ve gotten Machine Gun Kelly, I’ve gotten Justin Bieber, I’ve gotten Pete Davidson, I’ve gotten Travis Barker.” 02:18
- “I got this tattoo when I was blacked out drunk before I got sober, and I woke up with it on my neck.” 02:48
- “Thank God an artist like you today doesn’t have to deal with that crap. You can be the true artist you are without somebody telling you, look like this, sing like this, do this.” 08:04
- “All my success came from me being like, Fuck this, I’m gonna quit. I’m just gonna make one more little project that is just for me...and then it blew up on the internet.” 11:22
- “That haunted shit is no joke. Like, I totally believe in all that stuff.” 18:01
- “Album Chin Up Beautiful is coming out August 5th, and then we’re immediately going on the road August 11th for the Smile You’re On Tour.” 18:41
- "The most important thing to me is these shows... It's gonna be the biggest show we've put on, most production, and we're really excited about it." 19:51
- New Album: “Chin Up Beautiful” (releasing August 5th)
- Tour: “Smile You’re On Tour” (starts August 11th)
- Merch:jutesmusic.com (merch available at shows and online)
- Socials: @jutesmusic (Instagram and throughout social media platforms)
- Website and Merch
- Instagram: @jutesmusic
- Catch the latest album and tour updates on all major social platforms
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Radio and I'm here with jutes.
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No thanks for having me.
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Oh thanks for being in prison? Is that Tripp or
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what playing this festival? Incarceration? You got the shot in
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prison at your dick?
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Yeah. Like walking up to this, I was just like, wow,
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this is awesome.
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I honestly just toured in Europe and it's like these
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types of buildings are everywhere. And then as soon as
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I walked up, I was like, I was not expecting that.
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After the drive here and.
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Where you did you play any festivals in Europe?
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No, just like a headline run. It was my first
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time going to Europe.
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But yeah, I felt like I was back in Europe
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when I saw the this building.
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It's it's true.
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It's cool, right and like in the middle of nowhere too.
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Yeah, that's the way it should be, like, yeah you
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need to play Hellfest. Oh my god, that that is
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like the most insane like decorations and it is like
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this in the middle of nowhere and they own the town.
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Now it's started as it's stayed about the European festivals.
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They started at these little teeny things, like vaking was
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just a little teeny thing too. And it's like, where
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is it? Healthfest is in France?
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Oh sick?
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And it's in It's a town called clisson Nice and
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it's and I surf, so like they're surfing like an
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hour away, like some of the most famous in the world.
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So like weekend, I'm at the festival. Weekdays, I'm surfing.
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That's the life right there.
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Surfing the pit, surf in the water.
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Right, That's awesome? Right, all about balance.
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So I gotta tell you something funny too early in
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the day when when you and your crew came in
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here earlier, somebody thought you were Alie from bringing the horizon.
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Oh no way, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would have been a crazy surprise.
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Right, wouldn't that be funny? I yeah, came up to
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you and asked you for like an Oie grapt thinking
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you were Allie.
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You know, I get confused for like every white guy
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with tattoos. Ever, I've gotten I've gotten machine Gun Kelly,
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I've gotten Justin Bieber, I've gotten Pete Davidson, I've gotten
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Wow Javis.
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Barker literally even sealed.
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No it doesn't matter.
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I think it's maybe like tall, lanky, tatted white guy.
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Well, your tattoo on your neck could be the logo
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from That's My Spirit album.
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With this, somebody asked me one time if that's what
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it was for, and I was like, no, I got
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this tattoo when I was blacked out drunk before I
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got sober, and I woke up with it on my neck,
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and it definitely wasn't from that album. I don't know
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what inspired the tattoo. I was barely present, of course not.
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You know, how do you feel about that tattoo now
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that you're not blackout drunk anymore? In you're sober.
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I forget about it because I just have so many
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like dumb tattoos, so I don't really think about it.
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like fills the space a bit better.
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It's kind of a weird one to work around.
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Like I've always I've been trying to think of what
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else to get on my throat, and I'm like that
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fucking umbrellas you.
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Do almost have to fill your whole throat.
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Exactly, you know, yeah, and like put something behind the umbrella.
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It's just a weird shape, right.
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kind of like.
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The beer with the bear with the boom box.
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I just I found the artist had he did a
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bunch of animals, and I just found a bear.
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Bears my favorite animal.
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So do you know who's here that all so tattoos?
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The creator of Bob's Burger, No way, and he does
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caricatures of all the artists. If he's still back here
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when we're done, I'll introduce you because he'll do a
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caricature if you want of you. Wait, that's so sick, right, whoa, Yeah,
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it's totally.
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He probably has a crazy lineup though. I bet it's
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a long wait.
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Uh not today though, because it's been weird today, you know,
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with the smoke and changing around everything. It's been kind
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of weird, right as you know. Yeah, yeah, I have
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to experience it too.
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Yeah, it was a lot of variables today.
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That's why I want to ask you too. Okay, so
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how the hell do you perform with that smoke going
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in you while you're performing?
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I'm just happy it wasn't like a headline sixty minute set.
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I mean after thirty minutes, I was like lightheaded for sure,
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and funny enough, my leg cramped up and I was like, oh,
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maybe I'm like not getting oxy to my leg and
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my muscles started cramping up. So like I stopped bending
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down and I stopped like moving around too much because
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I was like, I don't want it to lock up
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and uh like make it so I can't sing. So yeah,
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I was like my leg was cramping and I was lightheaded, but.
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Yeah, it's bed.
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It was also just like hot and humid, and I'm
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I live in La now, so I'm spoiled and I'm
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a baby when it comes to anything uncomfortable. I'm from Canada,
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so I'm used to the weather like kicking my ass
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all year round.
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But well it's it's your country's fault.
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Yes, I mean, yeah, exactly, we're even beyond the borders.
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We're kicking everyone's ass outside of Canada too, right right right?
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Uh? And so how do you like living in La
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compared to Canada, because it's gotta be a little bit
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of a culture shop.
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Yeah, I mean I grew up in an area not
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so different from this area, like very country. I grew
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up on a dirt road on like a farm, and
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so yeah, going from that to LA is like pole
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or opposite. But as far as major cities go, I
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think LA having like a lot of green, still, a
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lot of trees, hikes, like, it still feels like there
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is nature versus like a New York where it's just
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like concrete. So I like it. La feels like there's
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a lot of downtime and.
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Chill area diversity exactly.
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So I love LA. I love the weather. It feels
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like a very special place. But yeah, it's it took
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them getting used to for sure.
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Yeah.
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And I lived in LA in the eighties during the
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height of the.
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Whole so that must have been sick.
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It was sick, okay.
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Like so see, I sometimes get sad when I watch
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either movies from then in like it take place in La,
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or TV shows whatever, and I'm like, damn, LA just isn't.
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As cool as it was, Like I missed.
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It definitely is because I thought a moving and then
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I go back, I'm like fuck to four h five.
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Yeah you know, oh yeah.
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And fuck Lax. But then it's like it isn't the
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same man, and like that scene, thank god there is
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no evidence, right, Okay, because That's.
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The thing is that it couldn't be the way it
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was because now everyone's filming everything like it would just
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ruin everyone's career probably, right.
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Yeah, Like listen, I was thirteen years old walking into
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the Rainbow with Motley Crue to hang out with Lemmy
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and Ron Jeremy.
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Wow.
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Like I look now, when I go out to LA
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which is quite off, I'm like, how the fuck did
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I get into the Rainbow at thirteen?
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Right? Different world?
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And then I'm like, oh, I was walking in with
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Motley Crue.
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Yeah, no rules exactly, Yeah.
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And it was an insane, insane scene. But you know
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what's better now because I sat backstage, like I made
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friends with a lot of bands because they're all local
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bands that became big. Yeah, And I watched the record
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labels what they would do to these bands, and thank god,
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an artists like you today doesn't have to deal with
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that crap. You can be the true artist you are
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with somebody telling you look like this, say like this,
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do this, like you can't do that as an artist.
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An artist, it's brutal, and it's like the quickest way
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to just like I was signed, So I did sign
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the Capitol Records at one point, and I was trying
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to make alternative music, and at the time, alternative music
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was nowhere to be found in the mainstream, and so
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they wanted me to focus more on hip hop. And like,
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it's just it gets in your head. You're trying to
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be true to yourself. You're trying to basically be like, hey,
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everyone in the world look at me, but I'm doing
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something I don't.
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So yeah, it's it's a really tough system if you
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don't get into it with enough leverage to be able
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to and your ground and call the shots when signing
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the contract, you know what I mean.
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You got to you gotta be able to take care
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of yourself.
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But if you have no leverage, unfortunately they call the shots.
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Well, like in two back in the day, they gave
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everybody all the you know, musicians, all the drugs and
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alcohol and the women, so they didn't know they were
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getting fuck because oh yeah, so fucked up.
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They're living the dream, yeah, you.
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Know, and they're like high out of their mind. Yeah,
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while they're getting their ship stolen from them. Yeah, you know,
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so like it's probably kind of cool. You weren't in
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that scene for sure.
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I mean, yeah, I uh, who knows if I'd even
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be alive honestly, like exactly, I'm glad I got sober
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before moving to LA But back then, yeah, who knows
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if I would even be alive. And I don't know,
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you know, exactly how things would have gone musically. I'm
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happy that I had my success independently and now I'm
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signed a position. But we have such an amazing relationship
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because I went and did it so much on my
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own and was able to show up to the label
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with like a thing that was working that I already
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knew how to run it.
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labels you sign with, like, let you have.
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Some creative exactly.
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Yeah, like cause my viewpoint is, yes, you need the
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business people, and I'm a business person too, but there's
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two sides to me, and to me, let the creative
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be the creative. Let the artists be the artist. You
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do the business then.
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Because the artist three shit is so delicate sometimes, like
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you can really fuck with someone's head and get in
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the way of them making great art, you know what
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I mean? You really want that to be feel pure? Yeah,
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so yeah, you gotta you gotta have a good relationship
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with the people that you're doing business with because that
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shit can get ugly bad.
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No doubt. And as an art like, you want to
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you know, experiment, you want to evolve in your craft,
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you want you want to create the music you want to.
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When me as a listener, I can tell if you're
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up there dialing it in or doing what somebody else
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have told you or otherwise, or I can tell you
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if wow, yeah, this is coming from.
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I'm gonna quit. I'm just gonna make one more little
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project that it's just for me. I don't give a
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shit if anyone likes it. And then it blew up
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on the Internet and I love that. And before that,
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I was like I need a hit. I need to
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do this, like I'm I'm drowning, this is I'm going nowhere.
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make one more thing for myself and then I'll quit.
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