Aug. 26, 2025

PipemanRadio Discusses Hope Found Me with SHAVROCK

PipemanRadio Discusses Hope Found Me with SHAVROCK
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SHAVROCK is a dynamic rock band from Baltimore, captivating audiences with their powerful blend of vocal harmonies, soulful guitar solos, and deeply meaningful lyrics.

Formed by brothers Nick and Akiva Shavrick, and joined by drummer Yoffi Storch, their 12-song debut album, Hope Found Me, will be released digitally August 5, 2025 and on CD through Deko Records September 19th. The album is produced by internationally acclaimed guitarist and former member of Guns N' Roses, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal, who also contributed guest guitar solos on the album.

“Shavrock write beautiful songs," says Thal. "They're great storytellers. Picture a foundation of acoustic guitar with Simon and Garfunkel vocals, add a melodic rock band like Daughtry / Creed to the mix, and lots of bluesy-rock Slash-type melodies and solos - that's Shavrock.”

SHAVROCK truly offers the listener a unique experience and style of original music, along with messages of hope, reflection and positivity

Pre-Order Hope Found Me:
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next guest to our killer artists and their they're brothers,

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and I love that. We're going to talk about that.

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So let's welcome to the show, Shabrock. How are you

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doing well?

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Thank you so much for having us.

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Hey my pleasure. Now. First of all, the first thing

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I want to say is how do you get your

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beard that long and that tame that long? Because my

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beard okay, at this point already I'm like, okay, I'm

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ready to trim it back down because it's a place

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and it's a pain in the ask.

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This is you're the practice.

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No, I don't know.

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I lucked out good genetics. Just after the shower, I

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brush it and uh shampoo and that's it. No oil,

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no nothing, that's it. That's it.

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Like I talked to our friends of mine are like,

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they tell me all the work they gotta do. I'm like,

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screw that, man.

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Oh it's.

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I walked out there, you go. I love it, man,

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because that is a badass beard. Like if I like that,

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of course, I think it's like your hair too, Like

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what I've had hair down the middle of my back

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and game past that middle stage is the hardest part.

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And I think it's the same with my beard. It's

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like I get to a point I'm like, yeah, fuck.

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It pretty much.

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I just got I think. I think it's like I

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should have just grown it during COVID and then what happened? Yeah,

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so something else I noticed? Okay, so uh I didn't

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even notice till right before starting the interview, but I

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was like, I was looking at the notes and I'm like, oh,

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wait a minute, which is spelled right your last name

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or the name in the band. And then it's like, oh,

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an idiot, I am, course, you know, And so like

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it's funny. I'll bet you you have people in interviews

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they already asked this stupid question all the time, but

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they probably as well, where did you get your band name?

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And they can't figure it out because it's two different spellings,

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so they probably can't figure it out.

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We've had that, Yeah, great observation. We've obviously had that,

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I don't know a bunch of times, yeah, already. And

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we just thought it was like a cool, unique thing

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to do, and to sort of use both names.

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I know, right, it's pert.

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And what we did was, actually, this is a CD

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don if you could see. So we did the O

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and the I and to incorporate both so it's a

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Shavrick and Shavrock.

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Oh that is cool. What a great idea. I love it.

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That was actually nixed.

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Idea nice. And so I just have to ask, okay,

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because I would never in a million years be in

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a band with any of my siblings. I know my

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kids would never be in a band with aings, how

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the hell do you do it?

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So honestly, growing up and we were very close in age,

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and we we pretty much did everything together already, so

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we have the same friends, and and when we started playing,

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you know, he started playing guitar, I started playing guitar,

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and so we were always just like jamming and stuff

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like that.

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So it really did just come naturally. Yeah, I mean listen.

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I know you're the point you're getting at. It's like,

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you know, you're working with family. It could be a

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challenge at times. That's still you know, there's still that

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that brother we love that that definitely happens throughout many moments.

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But you know, I'm grateful for for our relationship. I'm

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grateful for what we both bring to the table, and

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it wouldn't be the same. You know, there's a third

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element that we have that's because of the fact that

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we're brothers. We have you know, we sound different, but

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we have similar sounding voices. So it's like, you know,

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the harmonies, all the harmonies on the record are actually

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two people. It's me harmonizing with myself. So there's there's

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that element. So you know, it came actually honest exactly.

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I think that's way cool. And the one and the

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biggest benefits I always think of is at least you

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can trust your other band member. Okay, yeah, now I

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even know if I could say that for my siblings,

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but in general in general, but I think about it like,

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I have this one brother. He'll probably never listen to

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his interview, so I could talk shit abou him anytime

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I want, and he always used to say when we

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were younger. Like when I say younger, not kids, but younger,

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like I was in my late twenties, he was in

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his early thirties, and he's like, I'll always be six

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years older than you. I'm like, big shit, that don't

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mean shit. I'm married with four kids. You've never been married.

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I run a business. You work for somebody, like, I

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don't see how the six years is making a difference.

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But he always did, and I think he's still always dead.

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So what would happens to be that hierarchy in the

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in the band, you know, like I'm the older brother

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and what I say goes. And now we'll take something

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that's recent. Okay. I started rewatching the Osbournes after Ozzie

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died because I'm like, I don't even remember it. Now

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I'll get watching again. And I could never see Jack

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and Kelly being in a band together. Of course, they

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have a very tight relationship. They love each other to death,

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but they're two totally different people and they would probably

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kill each other if they were in a band together.

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I think we lucked out that we have a close

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working relationship and we sort of can I don't know

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make it work.

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Yeah, I treat each other as equals is the way

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I look at it. From what you said.

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Absolutely, we both sing, we both play lead guitar on

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the album. Actually, so it's it's an interesting mix.

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Yeah, we definitely approached this as a partnership going into that,

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we kind of had to have that mentality and that

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that really was a benefit to everybody.

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And everyone brought something different to the table. Nick would

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write the songs. I would come up with these very

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melodic guitar lines that would go with the songs, and

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so as Ron would always say, it's like taking a cake, right,

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exactly right.

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And I love too that you're both You both play guitar,

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you both sing, because usually when you have bands, when

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there's brothers in it, it's like somebody has to pick

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one instrument, somebody has to pick the other, and sometimes

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it comes down to who pulled the shortest straw, right.

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I think we both kind of lent into our positions

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kind of by happenstance. But I mean I didn't really

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anticipate in being the lead singer of a band. I

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always thought I'd be like, you know, just lead guitarist

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in a band, you know, kind of not not in

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the background, but not everything just like on you you know,

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but I kind of got like pushed to this position

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based upon I wrote all these songs, and then Kiev

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and I just I started playing them and then he

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started singing harmony with it. It kind of just happened

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on its own, and it was the way that it

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was meant to be, and we kind of just moved

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ahead with that.

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But what's kind of.

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Cool about our our style, which I think is pretty

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unique in terms of the different elements. You know, certain

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elements may not be unique in itself, but all those

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elements together is something quite unique. Our producer, bumblefoot Ron

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bumblefoot Fall kind of would describe us as if you

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can imagine like those Simon and garfunkly voke softer harmonized vocals,

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but then you have like those driven, heavier guitars from

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like the two thousands, like Creed or Three Doors Down

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or Dadtry type of thing, and then you add in

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some orpions harmonizing guitars, and then some really slash, you know,

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Zach Wild type of guitar solos. It's all of that

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that is shavrock, which I don't think really exists.

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Till right well, and it's way cool. And I tell you,

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I have to give you credit too. So to me,

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singing and playing guitar is hard enough, but singing and

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being lead guitarists is really difficult. It's like you gotta

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be on point for both of them and no laying back.

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You know, you could be a rhythm guitarist and like

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lay back and sing and you know, you know the chords,

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so it's easy and stuff to focus on the right

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notes both in the lead guitar and in the singing. Man,

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that's amazing.

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Hit the nail on the head. I tell them that

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all the time. Yeah.

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So, I mean one of the things that people don't

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know is we didn't talk about I think like even

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when we just kind of like did credits on the record,

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it was just like, Okay, A Kiev a lead guitar,

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nick guitar and vocals, and A do him as vocals.

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But the reality is, in hindsight, we probably had the

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same amount of solos on the record. So for example,

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I have two standalone solos where it's just me that

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he has probably similar and then the other solos are

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you know, are a joint solo. So for example, one

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of the songs, Burning Sky, he takes the first half

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of the solo and then on the second half of

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the solo and bring them home the same thing. He's

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the first half, I'm the second half. I'm dazed and confused.

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I'm the first part, he's the second part, and I

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take it home and I'm the third part.

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It was a cool, cool way to really bring both

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of our styles together.

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And then Bumblefoot has his own two solos on Amen

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and College.

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Yeah. Now has that feel have been him produced for

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the album and play on the album.

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I mean it's the most dream come true. Yeah, that's

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all I could say, a dream come true. Anyone who

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who plays guitar knows obviously about ron bum Football, and

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he was always a legend in our minds. And I mean,

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I still, I still can't believe it that I pinched

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myself that we worked with him. Been more than that.

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We became like very very close as friends and family,

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and we're spending hours and hours in the studio together

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and him to produce our album was just really such

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a blessing.

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And I'll even add that it gives you guys kudos,

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like like when somebody like that tells you you're good,

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Like I don't know, you kind of don't believe him,

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or or you're like, oh my fucking god, how does

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he think we're good?

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Yeah, that's that's a yeah, that's kind of a good point.

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We talk about it every once in a while, just

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like you know, the most challenging part of the whole

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process is playing guitar in front of him.

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That's honestly the most.

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You know, because you're you're working your way through a

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solo and in your mind you're like, all right, Ron

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will do this in two takes and it's done and

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it's perfect, and here we are trying to fight to

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get it right. So that's like the intimidating parts I remember,

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like there was one the only like this is probably

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for me, like my most memorable moment in the whole

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recording process. I remember I was laying down my solo

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for Burning Sky and I'm doing this one piece. I

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didn't really anticipate to do it. It was like this

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really fast like blues thing, and then Ron goes holy

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Like I remember him like just going holy yeah, and

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I'm like, to me, that was like that made my

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whole life like coming from him and he's you know,

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it wasn't anticipated and it's on the record that piece

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that's exactly the take.

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But it was like this amazing thing, and you know, yeah,

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because to.

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Us he's the best of all time, like there's we

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have there's no such thing, honestly, but to us in

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our minds, what it means.

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To be the best, because like I need to see.

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The stupidity if people arguing about guitar players and who's

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better it is all your opinion, and it's not because

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it's not about it's not about the Olympics. You know,

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it's gonna be about opinion. This mom melodic, who does

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something cooler? You know, it's silly, But what makes somebody

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great is besides the versatility, is like the feel, the melody.

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This guy could play faster than anybody I've ever seen.

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And he's the one who told told me. I think

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he told to keep it too in the studios, like

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you gotta slow down. I remember laying down this one

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piece and I'm flying, I'm flying, and like I'm actually

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playing it too fast that he was actually slightly out

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of time. I was getting ahead, and Ron says, listen,

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He's like, you're gonna lose people I remember that.

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I'll never forget that. He said, You're gonna lose people.

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He says, when you are putting a solo in a song,

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it's about writing a melody or a guitar solo that

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is singable. And we really understood that through this process.

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That's why if you look through this record, especially now,

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and I know the songs obviously, I've listened to this

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record many many times, but I know every lead line,

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I could sing him because each lead line is singable.

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It's not just crazy shred stuff.

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It's really isn't There is some nice dread in here,

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but everything is tasteful.

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The majority of them are just super melodic.

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Yeah. I love hearing that. And I'll tell you why,

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because to your point, you take some of the great shredders,

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and I take nothing away from them, But after you

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listen over and over again to the songs, they get

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old or boring because it's like the same thing, you know,

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and the same and it's really not about the melody.

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It's about the shredding.

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There's no sweetness thing.

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It's a lack of sweetness, and and that's that's what

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makes it I think an amazing player.

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There's there's a song actually he did.

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I think it's from his album Little Brothers Watching, and

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there's a song called I Don't Know Who to Pray

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Do Anymore. I think he wrote those songs actually when

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he was in Gen R and he was maybe even

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gonna do them with Gen R as part of a

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GENR record, Not really sure, but so it definitely has

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that type of flavor a little bit in it, right.

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But he wrote such an unbelievable solo. If you listen

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to that song, it's a pretty long song, but his

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guitar solo is like the most melodic thing. He basically

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waits kind of to the end of the song before

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he completely lets loose and then just melts your face off.

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It's so sweet everything that he does. And that's what

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his skill is. His skill is understanding and creating the

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most beautiful melodic music. And people wouldn't really think that

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that that's him, like because he does very you know,

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a lot of his other stuff is very obscure and

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interesting type of music, and he can do everything.

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Yeah, and I love what you said at the end

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because it's like he gave you something first, exactly how

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I'm gonna shred exactly Basically the way I look at it,

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you know. Yeah, and something else too, you know, I

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relate to and it also relates to your album and

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what you guys are about. I'm also a motivational speaker.

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So when you were talking about, you know, playing in

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front of him, it's kind of like I've shared the

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stage with some of the biggest speakers there are that

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were mentors of mine since I'm eleven years old. And

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when I know in the beginning, when I knew I

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was on stage and they were like sitting there watching,

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in my mind, I'm like, oh fuck yeah, Like it's

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like it's the audience didn't make me nervous, right, And

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then even in this Okay, So I've actually interviewed DJ's

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from Serious XM, I've interviewed Ricky Rackman, and like, interviewing

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people like that, I'm like thinking, are they judging me

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while I'm interviewing how good I am? Like, It's it's

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one thing interviewing the man. It's another thing interviewing somebody

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that's on your level or above your left level in

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the same industry, and you're like, hmm, I wonder what

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they're thinking right now while we're talking. You know, So

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I totally get what you're saying. Now. The other thing

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is is I love that Hope found Me because I'll

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tell you what, especially in twenty twenty five, hope needs

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to find a lot of people. So I really even

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know where it went.

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Oh my god.

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That's that's the reason why the record is named Hope

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Found Me. We actually could not We tried to get

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away from me for a second, and and including Ron,

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he he's like, it's got to be Hope found Me. Yeah,

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we all were in consensus on that, an agreement in

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that because too.

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Powerful of a Yeah, that went pretty much with every

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song that we composed and put out on the album.

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It's what everybody needs in their life because if you

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don't have hope, you of.

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Nothing, no doubt, you know. And that's how like I've

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learned from talking people through the years, that's really where

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people go down a bad, dark place, you know, and

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when things if you take prisoners that go to prison,

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like they tell prisoners to let go of hope because

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hope will destroy you in there, and I'm like, what

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the hell, Yeah, never let go of hope. You know.

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Hope is what drives you. Hope is what gets you

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to where you're going and hope is what keeps you positive.

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And that's what I love about your music in a

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world where music a lot of times is negative. You know,

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I love artists like you that put that positive spin

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on it because music is the best therapy there is, Okay,

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and oh yes, so is positivity. Mm. Have you guys

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always been like that? Have you always had that kind

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of positive mindset and you just brought it into the

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music music? Do it for you?

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That? That's see, that's really spot on.

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I like that that you touched upon it.

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It was like a little have you right?

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So there is a couple of things I can say.

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One is that for me at least, you know, being

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hopeful at times can be a challenge, There's no question

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about it. So I definitely strive to try to be

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positive in my life and to be hopeful and try

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to look forward to things. And yeah, I definitely strive

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for it. That's there's no question, but it is a

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challenge of times. With that being said, there's something I

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kind of had like an aha moment. I mean, it

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was actually an interview that it just came out the

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tip of my tongue. I did and really intentionally say it.

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But sometimes you write songs the things that you need

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to hear.

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Yeah.

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True, And I realized that.

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And because I write a lot about concepts, some songs

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have a lot of me and them. Other songs really

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don't have any of me really in them. It's more

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about ideas of how to help people. And that's why lyrically,

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I like to write songs about concepts where you know

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a person could be down at the bottom, and how

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do I help that person see a different perspective on

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things and on life. And that's why I write songs

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about it because hopefully there's it can help one random

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but you know what, I did my job if I

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helped or save one human being, because if that person,

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that's it. We actually had this random girl message us

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on our Instagram and she said, I hope found me.

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Before I heard that song, I did not have hope.

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Wow, I do that.

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I couldn't believe it. I said it to my brother.

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I'm like, you can't take this stuff for granted because

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you realize what success is, and that is success. All

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the other stuff is just fluff, money and same.

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It's all fluff.

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It's wonderful, people appreciate it, but that's not what it's about.

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It's just not And you know what the fact of

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the matter is is usually those moments happen when you

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are doubting yourself, when you were down and then you

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get somebody like that comment to you, and you you go,

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that's why I'm doing this. Yeah, it's definitely those aha moments.

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It's funny too, because it made me think of a

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story just happened recently. This girl I've known for like

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sixteen years were like BFFs, and we met on a joke.

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Okay that one of our other friends did this joke

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on my radio show. You're gonna laugh, but they this

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girl winded me to do dating radio show, like like

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the Dating Game, and I would be wearing a mask

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to prove that if I couldn't see what they looked like,

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I would stop picking hot, young psycho girls. So she

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ended up she was one of the contestants on there,

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and I did end up picking her, and she was

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hot and young, younger than me at the time, but

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she was so positive That's why I picked her. And

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recently we were hanging out and I dug up that

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the recording of that radio show from like sixteen years

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ago okay, and we're listening to it together, and I

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knew she needed to hear it because she's in and

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she was in a real hard time in her life

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and things were looking pretty dark, and that radio show

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reminded her of who she really was. She was like, oh,

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I need to be that girl again, because she was

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like so prod. Every answer she gave was like this optimistic, hopeful,

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positive thing, and you know, it was a good feeling

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that she could listen to that again and realize where

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she's lost.

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You know, that's another song that's our first single.

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Is that premise is the Boy I Used to be.

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So I don't know if you're familiar with that song,

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but it's the same concept where you know, well it

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can go two ways. One the opening line is Today's

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the day I will make a brand new start, picking

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up the pieces of a you know, of a puzzle.

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I can't remember the words of a puffle I completed

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that I just tore apart. And you know, the song

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is about look reflecting back on life to basically say,

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you know, when I was a child and I was

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looking at growing up and I always thought I was

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going to be whatever you're going to be. Listening somebody

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wanted to be an astronaut, and then all of a sudden,

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here they are in their twenties or in their thirties, forties,

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fifty six, and they look back at their life and

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they like, I wonder if that little kid who sees

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me now would he recognize me? And that was the

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idea of the song, because I actually was thinking about myself,

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like just as a little kid. I remember singing carpool,

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just thinking myself. I'm like, I wish I was grown up,

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and I wish I could be whatever was. I don't

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remember what I wanted to be at that time, but

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that concept, and you know, we may be getting older

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every day, but every day is a brand new day,

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and it's a brand new day that you can do

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something new. You could become somebody different than you than

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you are and be whomever you want to be at

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that time. You know, so confident what you're saying, you know,

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looking back at something that of the time in your

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life that maybe you were the person that you wanted

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to be and maybe you lost that, you can still

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go back and you know, try to emulate and be

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that person.

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There it's still there. It's somewhere you. I found that

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out too, because before we had all this social media

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and stuff that I was on that classmates dot com

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and girl friend from like thirteen years old messaged me

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on there and she's like, this is before we had

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like stuff we could do on our phone and stuff.

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And she goes, I still have the birthday card you

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gave me when I turned thirteen. I'm like, yeah, I

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scan scan it and send it over to me. It

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wasn't like she send it in her phone or anything.

460
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.160
And I looked at this thing and I have this

461
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.279
habit and cards of like writing on the whole left

462
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.920
side of it, and I did it and I've read

463
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.359
it and I'm like, oh my god, like I would

464
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.640
do the exact same thing today, and all it did

465
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.160
for me it was like ghosts of Christmas past. It's like,

466
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:48.799
oh my god, that is core me, and that's always

467
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.039
been core me. And a lot of us forget that.

468
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.319
A lot of us forget that some of the things

469
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.559
of who we are have always been us. We just

470
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:03.039
society people. Things that happen in life buried it deep

471
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.279
down in us, and we need that wake up moment

472
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.200
like that to realize it's still in us and bring

473
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:09.640
it back.

474
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:10.839
Right.

475
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:14.440
It's very deep, and that's that's what music's all about,

476
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.960
in my opinion, like your music, your type of music,

477
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.680
you know, it allows people to do that. It allows

478
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:27.240
people to sit there and forget all the other crap

479
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.880
in the world that is affecting us negatively, and people

480
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:37.359
go back inside ourself and find that kid that had

481
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.680
all the hopes and dreams that people when they get

482
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.799
older say, give up on that, give up on this,

483
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.640
and it makes you realize, no, never give.

484
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.720
Up, right right, It's exactly true.

485
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.680
It's so true. So what else do you want? Guys

486
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.240
want to say about the album or tell people about

487
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.880
how to connect to you and social get the album,

488
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:02.440
merch and all that.

489
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.279
Absolutely, so we're we are on Deco Entertainment, Deco Entertainment,

490
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.200
and that's sort of been blessing being able to work

491
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.200
with bumble Foot. And because of that, now anyone who

492
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.640
really like who's I guess an artist on the bubble

493
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:20.720
Foot is represented by Deco and your merchandise, your your music,

494
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:21.759
the physical stuff.

495
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.680
If you want to physical CD over here the shav

496
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.880
Rock c D that you can buy. Actually, it's got

497
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:28.640
a really.

498
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.400
Cool dis I love the colors. On there.

499
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.640
Yeah, that was the colors were a big deal. It

500
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.279
took a little bit before we got it the way

501
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.480
that we wanted. And that's the actual CD as well.

502
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:39.000
That's so cool.

503
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.039
We're actually gonna we were talking about this actually.

504
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.640
In an yesterday and we were gonna consider maybe doing

505
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.759
a limited edition or limited run of vinyl. We're we're

506
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:50.680
gonna kind of wait a little bit, see what kind

507
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.480
of you know, We'll feel it out, see what kind

508
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.720
of requests we get, and maybe do a limited.

509
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:58.240
Is really cool.

510
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.799
They would look awesome on vine. And you know what

511
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.839
that cover reminds me of. It reminds me of a

512
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:04.640
Journey album.

513
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.319
Ah, I know what you're talking about. We're huge, Yeah,

514
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:10.880
we're huge Journey fans.

515
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:13.559
I saw them. It was first concert I ever went

516
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.920
to besides beatle Mania, but I don't count that because

517
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.240
it wasn't actually the Beatles, but I went to see

518
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:21.759
Journey and lover Boy in nineteen seventy nine.

519
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.759
Oh gosh, you're so lucky.

520
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:25.720
Yeah. Wow, it was pretty awesome.

521
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.559
And if I actually think about it, Neil was a

522
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.359
big influence on her playing in the sense of being

523
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.440
so melodic, and I haven't thought about that in a while. Yeah,

524
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.480
wow right, Yeah, it's very true. Like if you listen

525
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.359
to the song Who's Crying Now, and he's playing that

526
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.359
melody as the main solo and it's just and then

527
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:47.519
he listens his quick shred, but he was so brilliant.

528
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.240
Oh man, it just so like. Reflecting on that, I

529
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.319
realized how much of an influence they did have on

530
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:53.799
us too.

531
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.440
You know, look at that, Look at how I just

532
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:58.079
brought that up.

533
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:03.039
Yeah, really nowhere it's crazy. And yeah, and with regards

534
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.759
to our social media is if you throw into Google

535
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.599
or whatever, search mension, shavrock and link tree, you'll get

536
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.400
all of our our Facebook or our Instagram or Spotify

537
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.039
or Apple Music, and you can stream all music all

538
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.079
that good stuff. Yeah.

539
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.720
Nice, and uh so that's cool. I love what you

540
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.279
guys are doing. I love not only your musicianship but

541
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:31.359
the message you're giving because it's needed more than ever nowadays,

542
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.119
even for the most positive of us. Like I travel

543
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.240
do coverage at festivals here in the US, UK, Europe,

544
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:43.599
and I leave this country, I come back and I'm like,

545
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:50.720
oh my god, it's all hope gone. It's like, you know,

546
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.960
and it's not about any side or anything it's just

547
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:58.839
about everybody. It's about like what's wrong with the world

548
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.960
right now and the thing game on all sides man,

549
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.720
And so thank god we have people like you that

550
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.599
are bringing hope back, so hope can find us.

551
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.519
All correct, I want to say, basically, you just said

552
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.119
there's a song on the record called Empty Cup that

553
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:19.920
is literally describing.

554
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:20.920
The crazy world we live in.

555
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:21.359
Yeah.

556
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.079
The opening of the song is, I turned on the

557
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.000
news today, my eyes can't believe what they're seeing. To

558
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.319
some people, life is just the game pawn of Pawn's

559
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.319
Kings and now victims. That's the opening of the song.

560
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.599
The whole song is it's and it goes up talking

561
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.319
about the world. It's what a silly world, what a

562
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:45.720
crazy world? Yeah, and the chorus was talking about you know,

563
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.200
kind of just turning a blind eye to things. Is

564
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.359
sometimes we're blind with our eyes wide open. Sometimes the

565
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.160
truth is we just choose to look away.

566
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.359
That's brilliant because it's true.

567
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.599
It's a powerful song. You should give it if you

568
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.480
haven't heard it yet, give it a listen. It's a

569
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.400
really powerful song. The messages is that's how Ron sort

570
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.279
of describes one of the things was He's like the right,

571
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.319
very deeper. Nick writes very very deep, meaningful lyrics, and

572
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:11.519
it's so true.

573
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.680
I think it's important for lyrics to be like that.

574
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.079
That's why I like the kind of music I do,

575
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.480
because I don't want to hear music that has no

576
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:25.440
pertinence to you know, deep feeling inside and the therapy

577
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.599
that we all need. And by the way, one of

578
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.839
the next festivals I'm doing, you guys should be playing that.

579
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.359
And that's Bourbon and beyond.

580
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.880
You know that one, No, that sounds great?

581
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.079
Check it out, Check it out. You would fit in perfect.

582
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.960
It's like it's a Danny Wimmer festival. Most of his

583
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:47.400
are like rock festivals, but this one is rock but

584
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:54.519
not heavy rock. You know, blues, bluegrass, country, you know,

585
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.759
all that kind of stuff mixed in. Like this year

586
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:07.880
you gotsh headlining, you got Ringo Star, Pat Benatar, switch Foot,

587
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.519
Oh yeah, let's see what. Oh blues Traveler. I can't

588
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.799
believe I almost forgot that because.

589
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.480
But yeah, there's all great. Where were It's funny we

590
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:21.680
grew up on pap Bennatzar.

591
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.960
I have to tell you my dad, my dad and

592
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.000
my mom love dad had her, probably still has her

593
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:29.200
vinyl stuff.

594
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.319
It was all in vinyl, fire and ice, all that

595
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.839
good stuff from back in the yard.

596
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.839
The guitar player pil Gerald wanted he again another influence

597
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.079
you don't think about It was a huge, huge influence

598
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.200
on us in terms of like some of his souls

599
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.720
they wrote again, very very single lead lines, almost all

600
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:48.200
of his soul.

601
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:53.480
Sorry, some of the greatest guitarists are the ones that

602
00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:01.440
people aren't talking about, right about the obvious ones, but like, okay, my,

603
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.119
you know Eddie Vanhill and everybody knows about him, talks

604
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.759
about him. But I think there's a lot of guitarists

605
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.160
that nobody even knows that probably blow him away. Not

606
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.799
that he's bad, it's not that. It's just a matter

607
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.799
of there's there's such talent out there there is. It's

608
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.680
amazing the kind of influences you can have, And it's

609
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.319
great that guys like you have those kind of influences,

610
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:32.319
because I think that's what makes a musician unique. If

611
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.279
they follow after the ones that everybody knows, then they

612
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.799
usually sound like the ones that everybody knows.

613
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.200
Everybody's trying to be a clone of the guy that

614
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:41.640
they love.

615
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.880
You know exactly exactly, you lose.

616
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.799
We we were really blessed to have. Yeah, been influenced

617
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.799
by so many great bands, especially you know, classic rock

618
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.559
in the eighties and all that which was you know

619
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:58.880
obviously before us, but we broke in the nineties. But

620
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.160
at the same time some of our favorite bands.

621
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.599
Well that's like me. I you know, I grew up

622
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.640
with older brothers. I had two brothers that were eleven

623
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:11.599
years older than me, and so I would dig into

624
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.559
their record collection, which was all like sixties stuff and

625
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.559
then seventies stuff, and then I formed my own And

626
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.760
I think that is a big difference of back then

627
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.280
compared to today. Is all of us from back in

628
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.639
those times, you know, it was like a foundation that

629
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:31.880
kept being built on.

630
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:32.800
You know.

631
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.800
For me, you know, I was listening to all that

632
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.719
great sixties stuff, but then I fell in love with Zeppelin,

633
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.920
and then I fell in love with Sabbath, and I

634
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.440
fell in love with The Grateful Dead, and then I

635
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.400
fell in love with Metallica and Slayer. You know, it's

636
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.440
like all these different transitions and they all are part

637
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:55.920
of me, you know, And I think a lot of

638
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.760
kids today they're not getting those type of influences they're getting.

639
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.719
Yeah, it's fun, it's funny growing up, Yeah, growing off

640
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.159
in carpool, my grandfather would play for us John Denver

641
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.960
all the time, right, and a band called the Seekers,

642
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:15.719
I think from the sixties. Yeah, And it's just and

643
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.159
that I think all together as you're saying that that

644
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.840
slowly built the foundation that obviously being exposed to guns

645
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.039
and roses at a young age and all, and then

646
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.920
obviously once we you know whatever in our teenage years

647
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.239
and Metallica and then alter Bridge and Freed a three

648
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.199
Doors Down, all those bands and it just sort of

649
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:34.760
all just came together.

650
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.239
That's funny because we were just at a Creed concert.

651
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.039
Actually just had two Greek concerts this past year, but

652
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.360
Creed was well when we were growing up, Cree was

653
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.760
like the biggest thing. Creed was just you know. Mark

654
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.159
Tremonti again talked about underrated guitarist. One of the most

655
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.360
underrated guitarist ever.

656
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.519
Amazing. He's a friend of mine. He's actually interviewed my grandson,

657
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.760
Like my grandson was interviewing him and he interviewed him back.

658
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.119
He is is a cool what a guitarist, Oh my guitar.

659
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.239
He's written some of the best intros in songs in history.

660
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.480
I don't think there's anybody's written as many you know,

661
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.000
memorable you know, intros to song. But what I was

662
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.920
gonna say is what was interesting is you touched upon

663
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.760
you know, the way like when we're growing up, you know,

664
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.719
we have all these different influences. Now there's not as

665
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.840
much stuff. But the interesting thing was that this concert

666
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.760
he said, you know, if this is your first Creed show,

667
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.440
raise your hand, and and like it turned out that

668
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.559
the majority of the people that were there were in

669
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:40.159
their like twenties. Wow, there's been a crazy college resurgence.

670
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.079
I think like high or recharted.

671
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:43.400
Or something something.

672
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.760
For sure, Yeah, there were some resurgence. I think that

673
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.360
I think Hire started charting again. And all of a sudden,

674
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.760
now these teenagers and you know, like you know, early

675
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.320
twenty years in college, they're all literally jamming to Creed.

676
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.440
I like, looking at this kid next to me jamming

677
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:00.480
to Cree A little guy.

678
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:02.119
What is going on?

679
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:07.000
But it's amazing Now maybe now with with TikTok or whatever,

680
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.159
that older bands are becoming relevant again and then people

681
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:12.639
could kind of appreciate the great music that already was

682
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:14.400
and hopefully a.

683
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.000
Lot of it's coming back too. Like yeah, so you

684
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:22.000
have bands like Rival Sons or Dirty Honey that are

685
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:26.320
bringing back that musicianship yeah, and kind of rock music

686
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.639
from the seventies type of mind.

687
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.760
So cool. Yeah, I love that.

688
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.079
It really really is which it which is great because

689
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.519
like I'm a metal head, but a metal head that

690
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:44.039
also loves blues and loves bluegrass and loves sixties music,

691
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.119
seventies music, And you find a lot of metal heads

692
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.559
nowadays are in some ways more gatekeeper than we were

693
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:55.320
in the eighties. But then there's the others out there

694
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.199
that are discovering stuff. And I also mentioned it earlier.

695
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:03.880
I think it's total cool that, you know, people kids

696
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.079
are going to see bands that the dudes in the

697
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.719
band are sixty years old. Like when I was a

698
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.960
teen age or listen, I went to Metallica's first show ever.

699
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.159
You would never catch me at that age going to

700
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.679
a Metallica show when they were sixty, you know, like

701
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.079
you know, like I'm their age, I'm a couple of

702
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.280
years younger than them. So that's why it was cool, Like, hey,

703
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.239
let's go see all these bands that are our age,

704
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.559
you know, but my generation would never have like gone

705
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.840
to see them if they were sixty you know, it's

706
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.320
kind of cool nowadays, or or these kids that are

707
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.039
wearing Misfit shirts but they actually know who the misfits

708
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:46.840
are in their sight.

709
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.719
Yeah yeah, I mean for me, it was like that

710
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.480
was the one of the reasons why I wanted to

711
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.320
see Journey, because I'm like, these guys are probably what

712
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.159
close to seventy now and also def Leffer growing up

713
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:58.440
that was probably our top ten.

714
00:38:58.760 --> 00:38:59.000
Yeah.

715
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.280
Def Leppard still just is good and they were amazing,

716
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.480
and these guys are like seventy or they're off for

717
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.039
sixties and look I saw I have to tell you,

718
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:13.159
I saw Sticks like a year ago. Unbelievable, amazing. It's

719
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.679
just it's just and you know who you know who

720
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.760
really blew me away, Toto. Those guys are still singing

721
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.280
and it's just, oh my god.

722
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.320
I actually interviewed them. Well, here's a trip. I actually

723
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.840
interviewed the grassroots and none of them were the original members.

724
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.840
Whoa I think coigners like that there totally like that.

725
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.639
Yeah. Now there's nobody left, right, Yeah.

726
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.079
And singer just retired.

727
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.159
The replacement, you know, he's just retired.

728
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.320
I know, right, It's kind of it's kind of weird

729
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.000
to be I mean, keep it going. But like it's

730
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.679
kind of weird when you're interviewing a bad that nobody's

731
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:54.000
the original member, you know. But yeah, I mean there's

732
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.559
so much cool ship like that. Like I just covered

733
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:01.880
hell Fest and Scorpions played. Oh my god, I've seen

734
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.800
them so many times in my lifetime, and I'm here

735
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.199
to tell you I was freaking out because they were

736
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:08.280
so good, you know.

737
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.119
Because want to see.

738
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:16.599
Really they're so old and they're so good. And I

739
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.440
was talking about this earlier or yesterday with an interview.

740
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.760
I was doing that somebody who played with Michael Schenker,

741
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.719
and I literally said straight out, I'm like, you know,

742
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:32.559
I think Rudolph fits the Scorpions better than Michael did.

743
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:33.840
Oh for sure.

744
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.800
You know, he just blends in with it. And he

745
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:41.639
was up there smiling the whole time. Yeah, having a blast.

746
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.800
Ozzie's final show, which I knew that was going to

747
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.519
be the final final, Like I knew, I said years ago,

748
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.239
Sharon kept trying to make Ozzy retire. I'm like, if

749
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.760
he retires, he's going to pass away. But that foto

750
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.559
show I've seen him every year since nineteen eighty, that's

751
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:05.559
the best I've heard him sound since probably the early eighties. Wow,

752
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.960
he was so good, you know.

753
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:12.280
With the remarkable offensay honestly and for us that like,

754
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.079
Ozzy was a huge influence on Austin, especially the Normal

755
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.159
Tears album with Zach and to see that like a

756
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.719
mom I'm coming home, that was very emotional, honestly.

757
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.320
Oh, no doubt. And check this out. I saw Randy

758
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.159
rhodes Man.

759
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:28.280
You've seen everyone.

760
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.320
Oh, I saw Ozzy three times in one year with

761
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.360
three different guitarist. First it was Randy, than Randy passed,

762
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:40.119
Pat Travers played like one gig, and then Brad Gillick

763
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.239
came on. So that year I saw all three of them.

764
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:48.440
Have you ever seen Yeah, yeah, like I've I've seen.

765
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:53.159
I've seen Ozzie every year since nineteen eighty. I've seen

766
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.320
it all. I think Zach is the closest to Randy

767
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.599
for sure, you know, as far as the style and

768
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.760
how you and the relationship there too. But yeah, I

769
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:07.360
mean you name it, I have seen it. I like,

770
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.440
and I'm getting a bucket list moment at Bourbon and

771
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.960
Beyond because Ringo Star is playing. I was a huge

772
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.599
Beatles fan as a kid, and I'm like, oh my god,

773
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:22.320
I hope. Like, there's not many times I do. I've

774
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.639
done over three thousand music interviews. There's not many times

775
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.119
that I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm

776
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.480
interviewing this person. I am praying that I get the

777
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.159
interview with Ringo Starr because that will be the weirdest

778
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:39.840
shit ever, Like that'll be like, that's amazing, Like, oh

779
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.599
my god, I'm interviewing Ringo Star. I don't even know

780
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:44.559
if I'll be able to talk. And so because I

781
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.760
was a drummer when I was a kid too, and

782
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.239
him and Peter Chris were the people that like I

783
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.960
idolized as drummers, you know, so it'll be like, wow,

784
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.679
you know you're I'll say to him like you're the

785
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.000
reason I sucked at drums because I I couldn't do

786
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:08.920
what you But next year, you gotta tell everybody they

787
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.320
need to get you on that festival because you guys

788
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.400
would fit right in.

789
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.039
That's amazing. Yeah, we'll talk to bumble Foot. Maybe you

790
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:18.360
could put some strings or something.

791
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.239
There you go, And I'm putting it out there right now,

792
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.400
like this what I'm doing. Maybe Wimm will listen to

793
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.519
this and bring it on because he is like that,

794
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:30.920
you know, that runs all the festivals here in the US.

795
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.920
He's totally like that. So there's this band, Silly Goose. Okay,

796
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.079
they're a punk band that they did the old school

797
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.800
punk thing. They showed up to one of the Danny

798
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:45.920
Wimmer festivals and they crashed it and started playing in

799
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.119
the parking lot, like they had a trailer. And they

800
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.639
got in their trailer and played in the parking lot

801
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.599
and Wimmer was out there watching and just stood there

802
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:57.599
and watched. And the next day he put them on

803
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:02.639
one of the real stages. Wow, like wow, you don't

804
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.039
have ship like that happening anymore. Like it didn't.

805
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.320
We're located festival.

806
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:14.320
Louisvilleville, Okay, oh yeah, we're Bourbon guys, so.

807
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:14.960
It makes sense.

808
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.000
Oh yeah, Well there's there's a lot of bourbon, a

809
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.559
lot of whiskey, and a lot of doornate food, like

810
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:24.559
they have celebrity chefs like your typical festival. It because

811
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:29.760
you're in Bourbon country and it makes for fun interviews

812
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.920
because a lot of times the bourbon distillers they asked

813
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.239
me to do the interviews and have the bands taste

814
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.519
the bourbon or the whiskey and it makes for some

815
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:47.920
fun interviews for that really fun changes halfway through, like

816
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.679
you know, it's like you have the normal party interview

817
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.800
and then it hits halfway through the interview.

818
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:57.519
That's awesome.

819
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.119
Well you guys rock and everybody's gonna check you out,

820
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.039
get your new album, and uh man, I'm glad we

821
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.960
got together because the world has now has found some

822
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:14.400
hope because.

823
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.840
Hope you that's correct, they're there, and thank you.

824
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.800
Hope found me now that there's real musicians out in

825
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.320
the world once again, and not AI musicians.

826
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:30.079
Oh gosh, yeah, thank you so much. It's been a blast,

827
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.079
really well.

828
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.239
Thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

829
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:35.480
Absolutely thanks for having us.

830
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.480
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man.

831
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.559
I'm w for CUI Radio.