May 19, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Dead Heat at Welcome To Rockville 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Dead Heat at Welcome To Rockville 2025
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PipemanRadio Interviews Dead Heat at Welcome To Rockville 2025 at the Daytona International Speedway.

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Hi, you love done too.

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Yes, that's true for see wow crazy Yo.

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Welcome to Rockville, North America's largest rock festival is finally here.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Avengerans Pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with Chris.

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From Dead Heat, Change from Dead Heat, Ricky from Dead.

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Heat, Yogi from Dead Heat Nice, and I am absolutely

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freaking surprised with the kind of energy you guys bring

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that you're here at Welcome to Rockville, and you made

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it to this interview and you're not dead from the heat.

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I'm amazed at that myself. Actually, I don't even know

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how band's playing this shit. I do get it. You know,

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you go on stage and the switch goes on, you're

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you don't even know you're feeling like shit till the

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minute you step off the stage, and then you're like.

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Fuck my life true at fuck because yeah, once we

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got up there, it was like all right, it's cool,

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and then the heat just hits you. Like midway through

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You're like, god, damn, I don't know if I'm gonna

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finish this set.

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Tollally, and I gotta say I love your shirt cuz

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appreciate it. That's old school, and they're not many people

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that wear it.

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Well from Oxnard. This band is from Oxnard, irrepute. For

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those who can't see my shirt, nice shout.

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Out of repute.

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All right, so what were you gonna say, Max?

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Oh no, yeah, like definitely one of those moments when

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you're up there, like get into the sale, hell yeah,

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hell ya, and like maybe last few songs you're like,

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oh okay, fuck this fucking sucks.

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You're like, we gotta push through. I know for sure.

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Everyone a little by little I could just look at

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like everyone like, all right, we're fucking we're feeling this

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heel for sure.

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And how fucking amazing though that there's people out there

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in this heat thrash you around to your music and

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they don't have to be there. You have to be there,

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they don't have to be there.

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Shout out to them for putting up with this heat

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and right watching the set like that's fucking that's sick.

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That said a lot about you guys that they showed

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up for you. Shout out to the fans. Shout out

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to the fans.

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Oh yeah, there's a guy I know banana suit.

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Oh yeah, there's a bunch of that.

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There was a guy in some armor wearing full armor.

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It's pretty cool.

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It's all cool too because like back in my day,

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you couldn't go to a hardcore show and wear a

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shit like you would probably get your ass beat.

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You get beat up for sure.

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So that's what's great about today. Great about Danny Wimmer

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festivals is saying they could beat themselves even if they're

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stupid enough with one hundred and four degree temperature to

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wear a banana suit.

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It's a good thing.

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Yeah, they had more energy than we did, apparently because

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we were all dying up there. Everybody was washing kept

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it going. Banana was fucking rocking out.

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I love right.

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Yeah, Banana guy, the Satanic warrior in the front with

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the armor. That guy was a good one. But great intro.

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He was like, Yeah, we opened up for Exiting. This's

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Ben opened up for Exodus. This Ben opened up for Cavallera.

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They open up at Stone whatever that freaking fest is

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called One Metallica that we played, and now they're playing here.

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I was like, oh, that's great.

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I was like I needed that really hot. I remember

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the last, the second and last song, I just start

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slowing down on those drums. Man, I could feel it.

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I was like, yep, like we played that fast and

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it was nice and cool. Who come here is nice

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and hot? But then I'm inspired by this tanegory. Can't

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keep me going, man, he keep me going.

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And I gotta tell you. I'm from the Ventura, NLA

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County area. Yeah, oh yeah, and I live in South

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Florida now. And every time I go back to Cali,

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which is quite often. First of all, my friends will

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never visit me in Florida to this heat and humidity.

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And there's sometimes that I go out there and they're like,

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that's human. Now, I'm like, what are you talking about.

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I'm I actually want to put jacket on. There's a human. Yeah.

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If they don't understand what humidity is in Florida right

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like anywhere else.

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Oh my god, I don't get the humidity.

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You get like the dry you get dry heat whatever,

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it's all. He has hot but it's not humid. You're

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your ass off Listen.

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I hung out in Oxnard. I was never as hot

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as I am in Florida. I don't care when it was.

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It could have been one hundred and ten degrees. It's

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never been as hot as it will be in Florida.

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It's fucked up.

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You swept from spots you never thought you could sweat from.

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I'm like, well, this is yeah. Being a Cali band,

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you probably have to a boxer going to training to

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train the play in this heat.

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Touring as long as we have now, I feel like

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we have the training to do there. You go every

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every so often, so we're we're on tours all the time.

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So now that we're going to different places where used

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to like the heat, I don't know, I know for

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use of.

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The heat, this just sucks.

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Yeah, I know, right, Like Sonic Temple and we played

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early in that day but it was windy, so it

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was a little cold, like I worried.

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That's good. That's good because it was hot a couple

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of days at Sonic Temple. Like I came home. I'm

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living in Florida. I got burnt at Sonic Temple. Like

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somebody today was like, do you ever get burnt? Because

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they never I'm like, yeah in Columbus, Ohio, go figure.

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Are you guys surfers too? So you live in Oxendarm No,

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it's sacriligious. Yeah, I've served before.

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I have done it a couple of times. But other

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than that, I live on the beach or buy the beach.

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So it's like I should, but I just don't. And

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he's shaked his head. That's like sacriligious.

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I'm from San Diego. I don't like the beach, Believe

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it or not, I don't like it.

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That's fun.

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I like to sit in my house. That's play guitar.

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When I was when I was a teenager, I used

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to drive my friends down to San Diego and then

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go to the border. We didn't need passports. We would

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park and we would go over to Tijuana. I wish

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I could tell you what I remember happened in Tijuana.

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I do remember eating a worm, my bro buying a

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leather jacket because we went down there to get a

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leather jacket because they're cheaper there. Finding out it was

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like they cured the leather with piss because the first rain,

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we were like, what's that smell? And then something to

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do with I don't know, a monkey donkey or some

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ship like the Donkey Shows or whatever. All I can

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say is good times.

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Man, it's cool. That's how you rock a gig down there.

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You park park in Sandy Sidro at the border, right,

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you walk across with the gear.

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There's some heads down there for you.

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If you're lucky enough, right, We'll band some badass local

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bands that help you out, and I'll let you borrow

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some stuff. But it's a lot easier to get across

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doing that unless you want to spend four hours in

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the line at the end of the night.

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I know, right, that shot out TG hardcore bands. Nice

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shout out to Hong Kong.

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Hong Kong, I do it, he said. Hong Kong said,

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Hong Kong, this is clarify.

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Nice late all right, so I got cool. Thank for you,

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especially since you said Exodus that's my battle vests from

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the LA scene in the eighties.

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Oh yeah, that's fucking hard.

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Yeah, that's easy. That's pre kill them all. I was

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at their first show ever. It's just pre slay or

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even having a patch. Okay, So I just did. And

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then in LA everybody thought I was a gangbanger and

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that was my gang name. We got Exus Dark Angel,

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I got coc On here. But when they were punk free,

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Pepper Suicidal, which I was into them when they were

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the Sueye Boys before they crossed over and still until

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now obviously. But I was a long hair couldn't show

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up to most of the punk shows or hardcore shows,

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I'd get my ass kicked back then and vice versa.

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But the suie pits were like with switchblades and shit,

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god forbid, you were long hair, like you were getting

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shanked in the pit. And then I went to first

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ever crossover show in LA It was at like some

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elks lodge and it was the first time you had

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ponks and metal heads in the same building, no security.

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It wasn't Carson, it was the Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge,

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and it was on the metal side, it was Savage Gray,

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which is they actually just put a new album out

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for the first time and twenty five years but they

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were gone. But they were pretty popular back then as

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a thrash band, and you had a Zest in the

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very beginning and Dark Angel, who I just talked to

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Gene Hoagland the other day because Dark Angel has a

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new album. And then on the on the punk side,

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it was coc in the beginning pre album and it

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was Suicidal again when they were punk, they weren't even

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crossing over yet. Sick and the Descendants. It's hard. It

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was it was like I have a visual video in

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my head of like just people flying through the air

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because they were like diving off the rafters and shit,

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and there was no place to hide. Okay, if you

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didn't want to be in a pit, you better be

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outside and that might not even guarantee it. Okay, it

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was insane. Imagine no security. Punks and metal heads for

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first time ever that usually you kicked each other's asses,

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which I always thought was stupid. Anyway, Like we were

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booking our asses kicked by the jocks. Why not band

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together and pick their ass instead of each other's ass.

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That's what's cool today about the scene playing at Welcome

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to Rockville like that. The last band I just the

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interviewed their thrash metal band, but they incorporate hardcore into it.

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So the opposite, we're a hardcore band incorporating thrash and

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metal and everything.

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So you got to go on a tour together, it

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would be like a cool tour change Saint. Oh, we

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just played with them.

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They opened up the stage that we just played, say

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there you go that that that's setting up the next

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tour sick.

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So what was that moment in life for you guys

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that said this is why I need to do What

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was it when you found out that you're in California,

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you can't surf or don't want to surf, so now

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you just went to music. For me, it was very young.

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I was probably like maybe all of us got into

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music when we were pretty young, like punk or metal,

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or I got into punk when I was like ten

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or eleven. Nice going to backyard shows and like a

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bunch of random oi punk bands that are play and

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then like I got into the scene that was that

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is aux snarine, which is like I'll repute, I'm spinning everywhere, right, It.

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Wasn't not May, I don't care.

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It might have been Inns drink, but yeah, the refute

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aggression doctor. No bunch of like bands from my area

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that just got me into like nardcore, which is the

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scene ox Nard hardcore. Nice that brought me up to

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get me into what I am today. So like after that,

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I guess metal, I was into Slayer and like Supple

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Tour and then like in high school that's when I

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get into hardcore, and like I got opened up to

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a bunch of every other big band that's like coming around,

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like Chromags, Leeway, those kind of bands, and I feel

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like that influenced to what I have today, even though

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it's so.

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Long ago instilled. It makes sense because I think that

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bands of my time are what paved a way to

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be able to have that. It's almost like he didn't

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know of any bands I'm playing festivals, like this was

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such an underground scene when I I wasn't there even

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Slayer and Metallica like shit didn't even play on the

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radio ever. And it's cool that you guys can bring

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us even more forwards. It's me yogi h nah.

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But for me it was Yeah, it was weird because

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I went from just my daddy. The first thing, first

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tape he ever put in was Metallica and Justice for

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All and I remember listening to it.

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I was that was I was hooked but nice.

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But Metallica led me to punk instead of more metal,

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Like I wasn't listening to a Slayer, I wasn't listening

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to like Megadeath. I was listening to Mega Death because

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I was weird. I found out about that. But anyway,

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but yeah, Metallica led me to punk, like through all

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the covers that you would do like Misfits or Anti

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nowher League or Moones of course, so it just pushed

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me that way.

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It surprises to me what you said about Slayer, because

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Slayer was the reason for the crossover scene pretty much,

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because Lombardo and Jeff were punks and and Carrie was

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the metal head and Tom wasn't even a metal head

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until he joined Slur, like the most iconic metal voice

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of growling, and he was just like he was into

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classic rock and stuff.

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And I feel like that was what this band did.

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We just incorporated everything that we grew up with, Like

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me was just being a skin at and then playing

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that kind of music. But then I still had the

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ability to play fast and freaking.

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Look now you can have long hair when you were

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actually I couldn't do it.

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And there was no bands that I liked, and you know,

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unluckily that he was the band that you know, I

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was all right, I could do this, and I was

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like I could play metal like I grew up. Like

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just my drum skill comes from Lars and think about that.

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He's not a good drummer, but man, that's a that's

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a drummer, that's a drum. I was good And I

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didn't learn of a bass pedal until what two years

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three years ago.

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I never threw shade at Lars because I was at

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their first show ever. I can't throw shit and look

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at what they accomplished. But I was laughing when you

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said that, because it just blows my mind how many

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people throw shade at him, yet he is in the

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biggest metal band ever. Exactly. That's why I love him.

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That's exactly why I love because I was like, man,

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I could play like that as a kid. I was

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four years old, playing on a skateboard and my drug,

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my freaking dirty clothes, hamper nice, my mom's pens, breaking

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every single freaking pen.

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But I'm playing along to him. That's punk.

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And I was like, yo, I could do this as

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a four year old. And then once I started getting older,

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around nine years old, started playing backyard shows with my brother.

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But yeah, like Metallica literally was the band that did

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it for me, like playing drums and playing bands and that.

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He yeah, like, same thing I feel like saying. Like

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I grew up listening to had a bunch of uncles.

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They were into like raging against the Machine corn like,

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they threw a couple of suicidal tapes here and there.

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But it started off a little more metal, and then

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to me everything was either just punk or metal. There's

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some bands that even now are considered like for example,

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like when her first heard Kromags, I thought they were

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just a straight punk band, but obviously like they had

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that metal influence. To me that was just like, oh no,

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this is this sounds like punk to me. And it

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wasn't until later that I found out, oh no, this

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is a hardcore band, this is a punk band, this

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is a metal band, And I'm like, dude, it all

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sounds the fucking same to.

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Me, Like, well, that's like, you know, Metallica was originally

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called power metal because there was no such word as

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thrash yet, and then they take the Big Four. They

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don't sound anything alike, but yet they're the genre. And

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that's why I love about then compared to now. There's

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things I love now, but now it seems a lot

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of bands. That's why it's great, you guys have so

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many different influences because there are a lot of bands that

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they're just like prame music from like this formula of

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how you play music, wow me? And there is somebody

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here guy, will you marry me? And there is somebody

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here Squiggy who runs the music experience. If you've been

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out in the festival, and he has married people at

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the festivals before Hi, so maybe that wasn't set up

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proposed before Metallic. Going with Metallica, I think I saw that.

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We were there.

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We were watching. We're just like they're righting Frost like, oh,

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he just got on his knee.

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Were like, oh, well, I don't know what the mic,

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but yeah, anyways, I said they did in the pit.

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I heard in the pit. It was in the.

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Pit, some guy just proposing the pit and where it

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was right in front of us, and we're just like, yeah,

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we'd like yeah for her.

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Basically, listen, you have to feel for the guy, and

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you know if he that's not me and the pit.

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I mean obviously like Metallica man something to them obviously,

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so they're him doing that there.

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Maybe they met in the pit. Maybe yeah, maybe she

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like took him out. No one, but I was like,

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whoa that was?

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That threw me off guard because I was about to

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like get into it and I'm like, oh wait, someone's

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asking to propose.

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Rob Zombie is our air, So what you got going

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on after?

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So after this, we were not doing much for a

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little bit because we're waiting on our record to drop.

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That drops in October nice on Metal Blade Records. Oh

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I have a story where you go ahead. Yeah, I

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love that Old Bay Records, but.

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Yeah, I was pushed to October.

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So that's We're just doing one offs every now and

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then until then, but nothing, no big tours until then.

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We're trying to get everything ready to probably do some

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music videos or something.

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Nice and then pop that off. So my friends and

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I in the eighties, like, it's not like now where

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you had Spotify. The only way you found out about

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music is you looked at an album like, Wow, that

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looks cool. I'm gonna spend my money that I don't

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have on it, and if it sucks, I'm fucked. And

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same way you went to shows. Yeah, like you looked

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at picture in Bam magazine and like, oh, I'm doing

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that show because I don't care what they sound like.

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They look cool. So we used to go in this

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place called OZ Records in the valley off at Ta Benga,

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and there was this record store clerk there and he

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always recommended albums to us when we went in there.

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That same record clerk. I was hanging out with him

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a couple of years ago, and I'm like, I didn't

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think about that. But that was the most brilliant marketing

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plan ever. That's when he started Metal Blade. Brian, Oh yeah,

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hell yeah. It was a record store clerk at OZ

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Records that we'd come in and all his bands. He

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would like, Hey, you got to check this album out.

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That's some smart ass shit right there. Right. I was

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there first metal Massacre album. I know, Hey, he goes.

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I said that to him. He was like, Oh, it

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was just a record store clerk.

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I work at a record store and I do the

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same thing, right, So I have people coming up to

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be like, oh, we go to Chris, he has some

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he's more in a metal he'll give recommend you.

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I'm like, oh, if you like this, you like this.

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I'm like, if you like that, you'll like dead Heat.

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I love it. I love it, and I just kind

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of sell it off. You know what. Self promotion is

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the best promotion at one hundred percent. Like and back

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in my day, you had like flyers stapled to telephone

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polls all over La and Ventory.

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I mean, and that's the way it was like till

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twenty years ago. Yeah, And it was Scotty from Tank Crimes.

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He runs a record label called Tank Crimes records. He

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does that all the time. Shout out to him he does.

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Yeah, I feel like when it comes to promoting like that,

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he for sure is like a big pusher on that,

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which is fucking sick. Like, for example, like anytime we're't

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up in Oakland, we'll see flyers for you. The shows

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that bands that are on his label are doing are

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just so old school. I love it and sick.

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I love that that's the way what like, That's how

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Motley Crue got big, Like I saw that was the

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first club show I ever saw in LA. But they

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didn't have an album, so they weren't that clam bullshit

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yet they were horror punk at the time. They were

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lighting everything on fire, trying to burn down the Roxy

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on the Sunset Stretch Motley Crue before the album, and

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they were the best promoters because there wasn't anywhere you

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could go in LA that didn't have like hundreds of

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Motley Crew flyers on telephone poles everywhere. So that's how

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they got there. They left their mark for sure at

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all one hundred. Too bad that they put too much

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aquhen that in their hair out.

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Yeah real, but that's basically we did on our last album.

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World at War.

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We went through l A and we put roller roller

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fosters up and stuff.

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Just yeah, like.

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Were that one.

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I remember me and the guitarist Janet. We drove out

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to LA We did something in Oakland too. We're just

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wheat pacing the whole time. Our homie had this code

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for FedEx or one of those like one of those

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little fucking spots that we could print out a bunch

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of shit for like super cheap.

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Nice.

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We made a bunch of big ass like self promotion

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flyers and just wear wheat pacing all over like Sunset Boulevard, Fairfax, just.

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Trying to get the name out there.

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And we're some of the ones we thought were gonna

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get taken down stood up for a good five six months,

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and I was nice, like it's for sure, help push

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the album.

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That's the way to go. How everybody, how they can

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reach out to you guys on socials, on the web,

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by your merch cuz you don't survive without that shit.

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You're right. So you can go through Instagram that he

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eight o five.

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You can go through our Facebook dead he eight o five,

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Twitter dead He eight o five. You can find us

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on Big Cartel dead he eight o five at dot Bigcartel,

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dot commerce. Yeah, if you message me, I'll ship things fast.

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Sorry for all those people who've gotten their stuff late.

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And continuously Like he loves it, he loves being harassed.

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I do actually love being harassed. I'm just kidding. Don't

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rast me. But yeah, that's how you can reach us.

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You can.

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We're on everything, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, LimeWire, LimeWire.

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Yeah. See, Lars was fucking right, man, he was fucking right.

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Everybody gave him shade, but he was fucking right. I

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need my money. If everybody will listen to him, all

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the rest of you bands would not be fucked right

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now by some of these companies. True.

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Yeah, this is probably the only reason we're seeing money

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from digital.

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Yeah because of Limewere, because of LimeWire. But why because

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of LimeWire?

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Okay?

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Yeah, anyways, thanks Lars. So how long you been with her?

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That's great. So anything else you guys want to share

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with the listeners that they need to know about you, rick.

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Tell everything about me.

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Anyways. Listen to Dead Heat all right, I'll start. I

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lost my virginity in the Manson Caves. Damn, that's crazy.

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You got crazy today? If you top that. I know

462
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you got a story we can you top? Yeah, he's

463
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full of story. He'd probably full of pep won the

464
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stories that I can tell you.

465
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Well, I lost some Virginia in the Magon Kings as well.

466
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Nice we're twins exactly, but I bet a lot. I

467
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bet yours didn't have a bush. Oh man, Okay, it's

468
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:25.079
getting out of hand now, and that's my no, that's

469
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my fault. I'm the one that said all the shit.

470
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Uh fuck you guys are badass man. Glad to have

471
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you here at Welcome to Rockville, and I hope to

472
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see a lot more of you. And I have this

473
00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.759
idea for a festival. I was gonna think, maybe you

474
00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:41.559
can make a happy in Oxnard, but you don't surf,

475
00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:43.359
so you can't make a happen. Because I go into

476
00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.319
like Theo's o C Punk festivals and it's on the

477
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beach and I'm looking at surfers out there, I'm like, man,

478
00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:53.319
some of these fucking bands should be like surfing and

479
00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:54.039
playing the.

480
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Closest thing I guess out there that they have is

481
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a VC shout at cam Vince. They put out pretty

482
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much they did like before we left, the did a

483
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skate jam, which.

484
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Is awes see that's critt No, that was that was

485
00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.720
Rapid Yeah, yeah, yeah, rap it. And but there's a

486
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lot of still skateboard and surf intertwined into the hardcore

487
00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:15.759
and oxard so there's a lot of ship like that's

488
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still going on. There's a skate shop called Rapid Skate

489
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Shop that still puts on a lot of shows. Nice

490
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and they're still putting out the skate scene with the hardcore.

491
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And I saw a gig a video. I can't remember

492
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who it was. It was either a metal or punk

493
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band and Tony Hawk was singing with them. Was it

494
00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:32.079
for the Tony Hawk album thing?

495
00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:32.599
Yeah?

496
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I think they did.

497
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He's reratting the game. I think they did, like a

498
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.759
show at l Ray and they had a bunch of

499
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punk bands. I didn't did karaoke thing with him, like

500
00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:41.799
on vocals, just fucking sick.

501
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.079
Like First Hero was at this venue for Welcome to Rockville.

502
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.240
I have my skateboard out in my jeep out there,

503
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.400
and I asked to have me. I'm like, if I

504
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:53.599
take my board up on the wall and see how

505
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.640
it goes well, I lose my media CREDENTI.

506
00:22:57.720 --> 00:22:59.400
I wish we had a skateboarder. I was we were

507
00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:00.960
going wrong with the track of my dude. I just

508
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:02.880
want to skate this so bad. Me too, man, That's

509
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:03.640
why I break it.

510
00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.400
And then I'm like, I gotta do it when nobody's around,

511
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.599
like you're surreal. To be honest, it's wild, right. You

512
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:13.160
have seen this on TV. It doesn't look anything like that.

513
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:15.839
It's huge, bro. It was like how many two three long?

514
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.000
Not only that, did you see the wall? It's straight

515
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.920
up and now it's not like young TV. How about this.

516
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:27.400
I got trivia for you, wired the seats all different colors, clowns, clowns,

517
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:32.960
ball Yeah, yeah, it's for slipknot now it's actually so

518
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:34.839
it looks like the stands are full.

519
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.279
Yeah, I mean that that makes sense. It does look

520
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:40.240
like you're right now. When we're driving here, it.

521
00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.039
Looked like that too, right ship people hear that early. Yeah,

522
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.599
But then I'm like, oh, it's just hated seats. No

523
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:47.839
one's even in the you can't be in there.

524
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.559
I love it. That's different. So I don't know.

525
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:51.240
I love them.

526
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.839
Cars ain't final words, guys. Yeah. Shout out Oxen.

527
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.920
Hardcore, San Diego hardcore.

528
00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:01.160
Shout out to my family, Gianna a New Josette, I

529
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:01.519
love you.

530
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:05.480
Shout out to all the homies, Santral Valley, I get Oxen,

531
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:07.079
ardt La SIV.

532
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.279
Rest in peace, my Grandma, she just I love you.

533
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.039
I love everybody listening. Thank you, Rest in peace, Kale.

534
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.119
Don't forget Cola Boy, Don't forget. Shout out to Tijuana Hardcore. Yeah.

535
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.720
Shout out to just TJ in general.

536
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.119
TJ for being a good time at a bad time.

537
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.960
I right, it's a bad time having a good time

538
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.279
at a bad time. Thanks for being on the Adventures

539
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.160
pipe Man. Thank you so much. Where dead heat helly.

540
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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man.

541
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I'm w for c u I Radio.