Jan. 28, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews Stowaways Heidi & Henry From Butcher Babies on Shiprocked 2025
The Adventures of Pipeman continue on Shiprocked with my friends Henry and Heidi of The Butcher Babies who are Stowaways, but also played the pre-party. We discussed how that pre-party was the best pre-party of 15 years covering festivals. It was so...
The Adventures of Pipeman continue on Shiprocked with my friends Henry and Heidi of The Butcher Babies who are Stowaways, but also played the pre-party. We discussed how that pre-party was the best pre-party of 15 years covering festivals. It was so great to hear their new song,Sincerity, live. This brought up the point of how metal vocalists who scream or growl or any other unclean vocals can excel in clean vocals even though people wouldn't think so. Heidi is great at both and started with unclean. Both her and Henry had some incredible performances with the Stoways and both 80s sets. And wow was I surprised when Heidi came out to sing a sog with Nothing More where they needed her brutal voice. We talked about how cool Shiprocked is and how great all the people are on Shiprocked 2025.
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What this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
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pipe Man W four CY Radio.
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And I'm here with Heidi and Henry and We're from
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Butcher Babies.
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Hi nice, Hi Man. I told you, but I have
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to say it on the air. Okay, Like that pre party,
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that was the most badass pre party of fifteen years
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of doing festivals. I think that was the most.
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Badass we compliment. Thank you so much. We had such
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a good time. When they called us to do that,
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We're like, yep, we're going right. Anything involved with ship Rock.
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We just love the energy here and we love all
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the people that are involved, and so for us being
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able to get out there and you jump start this thing,
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I think that it was probably our best show of
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the year so far. Nice first show of the year
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so far.
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Yeah, we just come off a tour and had the
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Christmas break and we're like, oh, we're gonna come out
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guns blazing for this thing. So it's really just try
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to let's set the bar and make it like bring
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the energy. So it was a lot of fun.
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You did it too. I was like I was tell
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them before you guys started, I'm like, I wonder if
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they're going to do their new song. To Christine and Mike,
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I was like, you got they haven't heard it. I
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was like, you got to hear it, okay, and that
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song is freaking amazing. And it's what I love about
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most too, is that when you are in this genre
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of music, people love to think that because you growl,
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you can't sing.
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It's a weird misconception.
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Right.
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I was a singer before I was a screamer.
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Right.
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I was classically trained and so, but that is a misconception,
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you know, when people will actually hear like my clean
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vocals are like, oh my gosh, what right, Oh you
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can sing? I'm like, well I am. I am in a.
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Band, yeah, And people have this miss like you said,
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misconception just to me, the growling tartar one hundred, like
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I sang thrash metal, and I didn't do it right,
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so I fucked up my throat.
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You know, very common, right, very common thing. There's a
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technique that you know, we learned along the way, and yeah,
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if you don't do it correctly, you could damage yourself permanently.
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And so I do take it very seriously, and especially
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you know, being on tour, going back and forth between
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the cleans and the screams. And but I've always done that, yeah,
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our whole career, you know, for fifteen years. I've always
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gone back and forth between the cleans and the screams.
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I think before. I think it's just it hasn't been
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as highlighted as it was with sincerity. We started playing
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that song and our last tour in Europe even before
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it came out, and so it was really fun to
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just hone in on it. Great to debut it here
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in the States, of course at the pre party. And
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then the power went out twice during it. I though
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it was but of all songs and power goes out
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in like the beautiful like Bridge Park where He's got
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this like a Bitch and solo and those all yank.
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Yeah, I couldn't believe during that song that's a song
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that happened.
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It's okay, though, We just the way that we have
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always rolled. Yeah, the boys didn't even know. They didn't
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even know that the power had gone out there.
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It's almost good went out. It's almost you know.
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That people just hear drums and we're up there just rocking,
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and it's like, oh, they don't hear anything, right, just
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drums in a room.
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Well, and there were a couple of times where you
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were still singing. I'm like, I wonder if she knows.
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Oh, I knew, but we just keep going. That's a
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bro the way to do it, because I mean it
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was day cut out for like maybe five seconds, which
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felt like a lifetime, but when it kicks back on,
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you're still on, and that you never know if it's
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gonna stay off or go on. But yeah, luckily it
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popped back on a couple times and we just restarted
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things and the show went off without a hitch there.
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And then a couple of nights ago, I was at
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this set and for like a second, somebody was texting me.
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I think it was Christine or something, so I'm looking
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down and then I heard and I looked up on
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like holy shit, and you were singing for nothing more. Yeah,
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the second set, I expected it because it happened the first,
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But the first I was like blown away and man,
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you killed it doing that song.
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Think you know? It was such an honor. They sent
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me a DM and asked if I wanted to do it.
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We've been friends with those guys since two twenty twelve.
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I don't know when we all started basically, but we've
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been friends with them for a very long time, and
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it was such an honor to be asked to lend
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vocals for their song Stuck, which is heavy. It was
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a heavy, heavy song, and I was like, you want
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some screams. I got you some screams.
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It was badass because you guys, both of you. Anyway,
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the energy that you bring on stage is most important too, because,
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like you can tell if somebody's just dialing through the
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motions or if they're passionate about what they're doing. And
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if you're a musician, especially in metal, you better be
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passionate about what you're doing.
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Yep, I fully agree. Authenticity when you get there and
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you're really feeling it and people can see it, they
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feel it too, right. You can tell when someone wants
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to be there, and you can really tell when someone
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doesn't want to be there, so I know that. Yeah,
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for us, we really want to be there. Yeah, glad
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that that comes off that way.
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And then okay, so last night was pret killer too.
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Uh you killed it up there, thank you? And so
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way did it feel like? Playing?
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Like?
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It?
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Kind of blows my mind because I come from a
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time in the eighties where we weren't allowed to like
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all those songs, like if you were a Slayer fan,
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like you can listen anything else type of thing.
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Every metal musician loves eighties, Yes, their closet country fans.
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Yeah, yeah, admit it.
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Yeah, I know, I'm sorry, I though, right, But the eighties,
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you know the thing about and this was the funny
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thing is everybody was nervous for playing, all the musicians,
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I bet, because those.
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Songs only had one rehearsal, right, Because I was in
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the rehearsals the other day, I'm like, how are they
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going to do these songs on one rehearsal?
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Yeah, every everybody, and everybody's still and this is pro
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and everyone was super nervous. Those songs are really complicated
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and they're not easy to play, yeah, and they have
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to be so gentle with most of them because there's
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a lot of clean and stuff and so for metal.
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And you're not used to it.
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Right.
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Yeah, it was nerve wracking, but everyone killed it. Everyone
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played really really well. Everyone took it really seriously and
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it was cool.
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And you know, she killed it was really well to
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know how.
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Much she killed it that earlier. Haley told me afterwards,
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she told you that she had a little crush on
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you after that after sinking that song, because she was like,
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holy shit, and it was true. Because what I loved
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about it is like people do get to hear from
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all everybody that was part of it. A different side
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again going back to the misconception of metal punk not
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being musicians, and they're way more musicians than most of
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the pop I.
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Mean, so incredible to see everyone come together and play
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these songs. One of my favorite moments was when they
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played in the Air tonight. Keith got up there and
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just annihilated those vocals. He did such a great job.
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And then all of a sudden, you have every single
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drummer that's on the roster coming out with us.
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Oh my god, that that wasn't rehearsed.
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Oh that was even part of it we U.
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He came in, Keith came in at the very last minute.
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We ran through this song real quickly. We're like, ad,
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we got this.
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That was it.
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That w thing was on the spot that.
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Was so badass and even Al was playing the drums.
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Yeah, it was just probably one of my I was
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saying earlier, is probably one of my favorite moments from Shipwrecked.
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Ever this is our third time, but that seeing all
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that that as soon as the don't don't don't you
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know the famous drum part and everybody everybody.
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Was there hearing it on stage and hearing all the
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drums behind me was I was like, wow, that was
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so cool, right.
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It was full body chills totally.
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So I have something new for you guys that I
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just started doing on ship Rocked. I've been warning this
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since I'm sixteen years old.
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My first is this is your battle vest.
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YEP and my grandson would wear it all the time because.
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It don't So I.
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Want you guys to look at all of the drug
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I drew everything on. Yeah, all the bands on here
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and everything on here. Those patches, Wow, there's blood over here.
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When I knocked out my teeth doing a stage dive
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off a Marshall stack.
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What a beautiful memory, right, I gotta frame this thing.
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Yeah, well, Winston said to me, man, you could sell
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this on eBay for like five thousand dollars. It's the
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most epic battle vest I've ever seen.
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It really is. I mean, the fact that all of
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these locals goes are hand drawn is absolutely incredible.
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Too.
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Year did you what year.
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Did you have this?
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Where did this start from? This started in eighty okay,
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and through the whole La metal scene.
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Oh, it was the beginning of the La Medal scene.
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Yeah, totally. Like I used to hang out with Slayer
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Metallic and see their I went to their first shows.
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We used to hang outside, go to her house and party.
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Like all the stories you hear from the eighties, I
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experienced them. I was there when Vince left with Razzle.
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Not a good story, you know. And I mean I
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remember before the first club show I saw in La.
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Like.
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I'm originally from New York in New Jersey, and my
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dad moved me to LA in nineteen eighty Okay, what
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a time to move there. Yeah, And I went to
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my first club show was Motley Crewe at the Roxy,
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before they had an album. They were more like horror punk.
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Then they weren't glam yet, right, and I they were
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trying to light the whole place on fire to bring
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Satan and I'm like, I'm never going to a real
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concert ever again. I was like thirteen, Oh my god.
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And that started it all for me right there. And
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then it was like I was always at either the Troubadour,
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the country club or the Sunset Strip every Friday and
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Saturday night through all the eighties. Wow.
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And this this was with you through all that. That's it,
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through all that. A beautiful thing. This is classic Los Angeles,
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no doubt. And having lived there for I was there
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for seventeen years. Henry was there for twenty three years
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years and we did a lot of the same stuff,
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different time era.
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I wanted to.
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Be go to La Bike right because of that scene.
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The scene I was that you were a part of.
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