Oct. 15, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews The Fixer - Dark. Sexy. Loud.

PipemanRadio Interviews The Fixer - Dark. Sexy. Loud.

The Fixer - Dark. Sexy. Loud. Ugly knots and ugly knots tour Prince Albert, SK for the Rocktober Carnival on their Ugly Knots Tour. Dress up on October 11 to come to the carnival and rock out with us, @teknosis.metal , @7sinners_official and Roy Noga...

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The Fixer - Dark. Sexy. Loud. 
Ugly knots and ugly knots tour
Prince Albert, SK for the Rocktober Carnival on their Ugly Knots Tour.
Dress up on October 11 to come to the carnival and rock out with us, @teknosis.metal , @7sinners_official and Roy Noga at Studio 

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Hi, you love them too, Censure Wow, gra you your night.

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Shund, your shamelfel Repstyle.

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This is the pipemin here on the Adventures Pipe Man

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w pour c Y Radio and our next guest has

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had some pretty cool, cool new song and a cool

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tour going on that we're going to talk about. So

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let's welcome to the show The Fixer. How are you great?

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Hi? Thank you very much for having us.

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Oh my pleasure. And I gotta tell you, I really

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love your description on Instagram because it just totally describes you. Dark, sexy, loud.

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Thank you, And I was listening to your new song

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and it's pretty badass. What I like about is it,

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you know, it's not like normal metal today that has

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one sound throughout the whole song and basically, once you've

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heard the first thirty seconds, you've heard the whole song,

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which playgates to the track track track track mentality. I

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think yours is more old school in my opinion, where

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it takes you on a journey.

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We do have a bit of old school with us.

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I feel like, well The Fixer naturally has a lot

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of varied influences even outside of metal, but I feel

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like there is some elements in old school, like I

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grew up in the for reference point when new metal

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was very popular. I feel like that to a degree

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comes through and I don't know, I guess just writing

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something that's start to finish the same, like, nothing really

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wrong with that, But if you do every song like that,

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it as a creator, it I don't know, it doesn't

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feel as fulfilling, and it's kind kind of just a

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challenge to keep a song moving and still keep it cohesive,

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listenable and interesting all the way through.

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Well, and you made a good point there, because like

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as an artist, if you were making the same song

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over and over again, it wouldn't be fulfilling and be

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kind of boring and tedious. I would think.

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Every day that you get to pick up an instrument

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to guitar, and it's not never a bad time, but

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it is the creating interesting songs and not just doing

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the same thing every time. That kind of keeps you

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motivated to keep doing it. Otherwise I feel like eventually

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it would burn out. But the actual activity of playing

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an instrument, I just feel like it's.

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It's a fun If anything, it's kind of like the

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opposite of what's going on is that I feel like

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we have too much potentially variety in our music, and

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we have have in the past struggle to make sure

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that like an album is cohesive or like a sat

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list has enough of the same sound, just because I

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feel like we want to play with so many different.

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Sounds or at least transition between things tastefully. It's but

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that in itself is actually a fun challenge as a

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creator to be playing with different sounds and figuring out

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how unlike things can go together.

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Yeah, and I do love your point about it has

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to be cohesive. To me, that's old school too, because

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like we live in this day and age where people

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bands put out singles, so if you put all those

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singles together on an album, they wouldn't be coesive. But

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old school, you bought an album and you listen to

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the whole album or CD or cassette tape or whatever

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it was you just went through and be kind of like, Okay,

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if you listen to Dark Side of the Moon only

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one song at a time, it wouldn't make sense.

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Yes, yes, and that is actually true with our album

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Your Lie, where we did have like an overarching lyrical

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theme through it. Even though it does we do feel

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like it jumps a fair bit genre wise and even

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topic wise, but there is it does connect each song

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into a general theme for the album. So we do

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like creating the album experience. Still, it's fun to do

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a single once in a while just because you're not

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really bound to anything. But there's still something about creating

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a full experience from start to finish.

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No doubt. And to your point, I like when bad

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to put out a single but then don't it's not

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part of the new album because it doesn't fit with

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the rest of the album. So they put out singles,

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but then they put out an album. Say that again.

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Sorry I interrupted you.

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I was just saying I was thinking that that's exactly

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what we've been doing with our to our two singles.

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It will end tonight and ugly not to be released

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because a lot of our music's going in a different

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direction than our next album. We just didn't think they

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would fit with But we still like love the songs.

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Really wanted to give them like a real release and

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like a real I don't know you word it better.

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Yeah, we wanted to get a proper release and and

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they're great songs a live but we do want our

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next album to have kind of a specific sort of

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I don't want to make it sound like it's all

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gonna sound the same, because that's not it either. But

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you do want to have that cohesiveness and that those

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two songs they were as good of songs as they were.

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It just it didn't really work in an album cohesive sense.

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Yeah. Yeah, and that makes sense. Yeah, and even what

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you said before, as long as there's something tying the

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album together, it doesn't have to be the same exact

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genre every song, in my opinion, because it's kind of

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to me that's part of the journey, is it not

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being exactly the same on every song, just something tying

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it together. And you know, it's funny because this all

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reminded me of a few years back, Slipknot released this

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really really good single and then they released an album

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that was the same name as the single, but the

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single was never on the album, and I thought that

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was kind of wild in one in one way. But

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then based on what you were saying before, it made

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me understand it now. I was like, oh, well, now

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that makes sense.

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Yeah, it's it's it's interesting in the new landscape of

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how you can release music as an artist because there

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is actually a lot more options of how you can

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present your music now in the just with with the internet,

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the way multimedia accompanies your product online, it just kind

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of changes things, and it does, you know, Rather, I

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try to not always be old and go against the

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new way of things being because it does add some

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interesting things that you can kind of play off of

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in the new musical landscape, even though there's still definitely

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some stuff that I obviously, you know, knowing the that

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we like to do the album experience that's a little

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more old school minded.

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I totally agree with that too, because I think you

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have to be a little bit of both in my opinion,

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Like you can't just be old school and forget about

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new because I kind of related in radio, Okay, I

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call the old school radio people that they have WKRP

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in Cincinnati syndrome, which I don't know if you would

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get that in Canada, but it was a very popular

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seventies TV show called WKRP in Cincinnati, And I feel

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like a lot of the old school terrestrial radio people,

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they all want to hold on to something that does

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not exist anymore, and the radio stations are smart combine

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a little bit at old school but use the new

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technology in a new school way of doing things.

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Yep, even with the way like I actually do our

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audio production for our releases. And when I first started,

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it was right at the beginning of digital when I

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started learning about audio recording, and the person that meant

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me actually made a very specific point before he would

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show me any of the digital tools, he made me

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do a few recordings on aid at tapes right, just

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to know what what the process of recording on the

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old medium before moving in to see the progression of

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how it got to where it is now. And I

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find that very valuable, even just in a in a

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mindset of how to approach thinking about things. Being stuck

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in where things were isn't helpful, but it's also not

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helpful to not not see why it worked in its

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in its time. The new school has a lot to offer,

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but the old school was great for reasons too.

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Is that the same person that made me do the

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same thing with film?

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It is the same.

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So funny we have a mentor that we didn't connect

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through in any way, shape or form. We just happened

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to be taught at the same person him audio and

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new video.

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And yeah, I.

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Learned how to do all the video stuff on like

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film first. Way, like before you touch anything digital, learn

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how to do it on film first. And I really

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do appreciate those foundations. I feel like they really shape

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probably the way we both approach the different forms of media.

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Yeah, it just gives you more more ideas in your

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toolbox to work with. It's learning is is you know,

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it's never a bad thing, even if it's not something

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you're going to use all the time. Just the perspective

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it gives you is always positive.

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I think it's brilliant actually, And the reason I think

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so is I think it makes you better at the

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new school to know the foundation. I kind of equate

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it to technology nowadays. So I'm somebody I learned all

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the programming languages that built the Internet and built social

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media and built computers. And I look at people that

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have never had that experience and they think that just

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technology just works. They don't know what works behind it.

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And as a perfect example, they all get, you know,

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like viruses and spyware and all that. I don't even

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use anti virus or anti spyware, and I never get

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either because I understand what to do and what not

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to do to avoid it.

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It is like I do, uh, because it's like the

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idea of moving into a new workplace that has a

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lot of very like specific systems that have like their

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little quirks. If you weren't there to see how those

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quirks got into their system that is operating, it's challenging.

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And the only way you really get that is if

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you do look back from where you are, necessarily starting

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getting a bit of history on where you are. It's

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it doesn't have to be like like you know, into

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the weeds or anything, but having some sense of the

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history of why things have landed where they have is

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always always a valuable thing to know.

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Yeah, and I think to your point with the audio

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production specifically because I know that better than the video production.

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But you know, I think it really helps to know

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that in analog there was a wave and there were mids,

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whereas digital as chop chop chop. So by knowing that,

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I think you're able to create a better sounding digital

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sound because you know that you have to compensate for

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that words. I think people that only know to digital,

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they don't know that there were mids.

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I think they they just think about I don't know

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if that aspect of things always always comes to mind

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for some of the New school people until they been

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at it for a really long time, right, and then

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even if it's not not actually knowing, if you've even

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just worked recording on on older like like say on tape,

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you'll just hear the difference if you're listen, if you

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critically listen long enough, you'll hear those little subtleties. And

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it's again the biggest thing. I think, the the enemy,

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uh that a lot of people face now is just

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the time, the expectation that life has on us. Life

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moves really fast to try and get all of the

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the actual hands on experience to get there, uh is

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you know, I do sympathize with the newer generation that

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you know, didn't learn these things, you know, just ahead

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of the Internet age, because I was I'm one of

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the interesting ones where like I grew up without internet

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and then through part way through my youth it became

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very prevalent. So I see the benefits and drawbacks from

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both ways, and it's to me it's a very cool thing.

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But I definitely don't envy the battle to get the

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handle on the hands on that the New school would

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be facing.

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Yeah, totally. And you know it's funny because I remember

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one time I was telling my youngest daughter. I was like,

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some days I just want to drive down the road

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through my phone, my computer, my iPad out the window

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and keep driving. She goes, oh, you came dead. You're

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just as addicted as anybody. And she's right because I'm

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a techie. But I said to her, you're absolutely correct,

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except I do remember a time when I didn't have

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all this crap, and it was kind of better. In

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some ways. It was my generation gen X built this

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stuff to make things easier and have more time in

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our life life, and it actually worked out the opposite.

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In its own way, created a little bit of a

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monster's right. It's one of those interesting things where I've

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looked back at it, and the access to learning that

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I've had through a lot of these tools is incredible.

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But the amount that it sucks you away from real

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life is you know, the other side of the sword.

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Right, like everything is being on your computer and your

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computer being in your home and no one expecting you

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to be able to magically do something right.

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Now, like looking at it as a writer, the abilities

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that we have now with digital production as a tool

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for creating. I like, you know, just the possibilities and

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the more creative you're thinking about how you're using these

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tools in you're writing can be real, like real Dora. Yeah,

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it's a lot of it is just like being really

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critical about how you are using these tools. Are they

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actually helping you totally?

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And I also feel like where the advantage is is

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artists like you nowadays can do things on your own

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to where you have creative control instead of having record

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labels and people like that dictating how you should do

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your art because they're the only ones that know how

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to make it. You know, you know how to create it,

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but they're the only ones that knew how to produce it.

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And I think it's great that artists can produce their

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own music now and not have to be subject to that.

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And this is again coming to the two sides of

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the sword, because I feel like now a lot of

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artists have that ability where before maybe it was access

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to things to fully realize their vision of what they

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wanted for their music. Now you can realize in a

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lot of depth with like you know, us that use

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a lot of electronics and synths in our music being

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able to use the new platforms for for that part

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of creating is is like it's endless, Like it's just

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so cool, how much how depth, how much depth you

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can get on that aspect of things. We still like

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two Bamps. We played the two Bamps alongside digitally like

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programmed stuff too. But it's but then again, a lot

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of artists I feel like I haven't seen have now

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created a much larger workload for themselves by doing everything.

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So I think there's also that struggle for a lot

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of bands is getting their full their full project operating

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on all level just because they've they've they've just got

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so many other things that they've started to take on

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doing themselves, rather than having like a few people that

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are specializing that are maybe not necessarily the musicians themselves.

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The benefit that he does a lot being a DIY

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band and having you know, been really motivated to try

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and do as much as we can on our own

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and learn as much as we can. Totally see the

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blessings and curses.

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Totally same here. And you know, like to look at

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the old school DIY bands compared to new school DIY bands,

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DIY bands now could definitely probably blow away the old

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ones because you know, you think of the old school

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punk bands that were DIY. Their sound quality sucked, their

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instrument quality sucked, but they were doing it all on

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their own, whereas nowadays they can make everything just as

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professional as if they were with somebody professional.

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Yeah, the access is a lot better, and the access

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to the world as well. Like, I don't feel like

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we would have be able to connect without the globalization

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of the Internet and being able to share our music

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around the world.

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And it's and again seeing the blessings and curses because

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I look back at some of those older recordings, like

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I was talking about it with our Touramate's technosis about

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looking at say, recordings from like just ahead of when

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digital recording became a thing, and they're doing all of

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this stuff in the room. They don't have all those

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bells and whistles, but there is energy. There's that secret

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artistic sauce of the performance and stuff that I feel

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like got the extra attention in those days. That isn't

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all there. There's definitely still recordings that are doing it.

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And I feel like my favorite recordings are the people

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that have been marrying the old school with the new

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school totally. That's that and I feel like that's something

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that we've kind of made like a goal to like

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try and figure out those things, to not abandon our

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past and just do new school stuff and also not

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be sticking the mud old fogies and not these new school,

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new school bands, new school producing approaches and that, like,

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you know, seeing the benefit that's come from those.

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Yeah, and then look at like some of these artists

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that have become huge just by using TikTok, Like those

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are artists that probably have never been heard of before ever,

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no matter what you know. So I think that's the benefit.

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I'm with you, there's two sides, and you gotta use both.

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I think that's even what like the Internet age, you

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know that I remember when it's first started and all

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the Internet companies at dot coms are like, oh, brick

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and mortar is gonna go away. It's never gonna And

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who are the companies that our biggest on the Internet

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now are the ones that combine forces with the brick

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and mortar, not try to separate themselves.

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Yeah, we are still real humans, We are still living

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right in the real world. Computers in the digital age

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their tools for us navigating the real world. Not to

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become the existence contained in a box totally.

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Now, you guys are starting a tour tomorrow. My birthday

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is on the eleventh, and you have I saw on

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your latest Instagram post about you have a very cool

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show coming up on my birthday. I wish I could

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be there for it. Let's talk about Let's talk about

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the tour and that show right now.

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So we're very excited to be kicking it off in uh.

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Well.

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We've actually done three shows in Quebec that were that

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were last weekend that we're built as part of the tour,

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and then tomorrow is the first day that we pick

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up with our friends in Technosis for the for the

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rest of our dates, and we're playing one of the

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smaller regional towns just a few hours out from our

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hometown of thunder Bay, called Fort Francis, which is super cool.

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They they've been very good to us in the last

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couple of years. It's it's a very small place that

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doesn't get a lot of touring entertainment, so we're super

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excited to get into uh to a region that doesn't

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doesn't get a lot of stuff, let alone something as

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different as different as the fix. We're in our tourmate's technosis.

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I'm also really excited. This is the first time we're

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going to go to this particular venue. It's called the

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Pink paras aal Tea Room, and it is from the

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pictures it is exactly what it sounds like and I

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just can't wait to be a goth in that space.

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Yep, that'll be so cool.

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That show on the eleventh, that will be our first

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time ever playing in UH Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. We're very

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excited to be doing UH. What's special about that show

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is our friends from a rap group seven Sinners from

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the Paw Manitoba, are coming out for the for the

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show there, and we have a special song that we've

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collaborated with them that we only get the chance to

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play twice on tour with them, and that will be

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one of those shows.

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Nice.

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I also just love any show that has a dress

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up theme.

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I love like, like we always dress up and we're

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always uh doing doing some elaborate things or like being

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being over the top. And I love when the audience

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or audience I guess the people going to the show

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can also express themselves and wear something that's really fun

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for them. And I just love seeing other people's fashion.

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Art as well.

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We have a spot at home called Definitely Superior Art

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Gallery that does a couple of like themed, multi art

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disciplined events each year and doing having played their events

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over the years with the dress up themes, it's just

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always so fun to get other people a part of

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creating art along with along with the performers. And we're

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actually playing a show of theirs to wrap up the tour,

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the Hunger eighteen, which is their massive Halloween event and

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it's I even remember how many men, it's.

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Like the somewhere between like nine and eleven. Yeah, there's

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always a lot.

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And we're very excited to be a part of that

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show this year on Halloween proper, which is I love

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it us.

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I love it. And you know what I love about

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what you're saying, This is what I do like about

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new school that I could care less about Old school

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about Back in the eighties, we were the worst freaking

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gatekeepers when it came to metal and punk. It was stupid,

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and I love that nowadays, Like i'd go and I

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do coverage at music festivals all over the US, UK, Europe,

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and you go and it's just like anybody can be

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anybody they want there, Like it's like there are no outsiders,

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there are no freaks. We're all freaks, you know, Like,

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and it's like everybody can have their own look. You know.

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Back in the eighties, it was like, Okay, if you're

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into this medal, you had to look like this, and

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if you're into this metal, we had to look like that.

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It was like the whole idea of gothin metal was separated.

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And I'm like, that's kind of stupid. You know, We're

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all really in the same realm, and people should just

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be able to express themselves anyway they want to express themselves.

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And that's what's cool about metal today. You know.

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That was one of the things that always drew me

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to music in general is it's one of the few

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gathering type events that really does not have borders on

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goo will attend. It's one of the true community builder

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sort of sort of things that we have left. There's

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very few things left in the world that I feel

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like has an element of magic like music and live music.

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Yeah, and I think sorry, I was just gonna say

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I thank you guys for that, because your generation is

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what brought metal to be that way opposed to the

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assholes in my generation.

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But I actually my experience too, like I saw the

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gatekeeping in my younger years. But I also think so

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fondly of the metal heads. You know, when I was

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you know, had been in my first band and was

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really like at all the shows, every weekend or all

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the week days, any all ages shows that there were here,

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I would be out, and then the old guys would

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every now and then pull us along and pull us

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on one of their bills and mentored us through and

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we're really supportive. So I actually feel very fortunate to

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have been where I started to see the older generation

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starting to reach down and and embrace that things were

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moving in a new direction rather than rather than a

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preservation aspect, because it's like what was going on in

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the eighties. If if it wasn't for you folks in

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the eighties doing that music, there would be no space

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for the fixer to be progressing. Well, that's the same

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as just the same as after after us, there's you know,

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after our generation, there's it's uh, somebody else is going

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to have to wave the freak flag.

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Aggressive And what were you going to say about the

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gate keepers? What were you get before?

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I like being kind of like like goth but not

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super goth, and like metal but not super metal. Like

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I was really afraid when when going out into the

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world and presenting the way we are that there, that

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it was going to be really difficult. And I've been

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so pleasantly surprised that so many people and and venues

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and and places online have been so welcoming to us,

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and it's really so nice.

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I feel like the community is just so like supportive

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and like we just we just all want to make

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art together.

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Yeah, I do feel like there is a hunger for

464
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:11.720
people looking for music that is very authentic, very much

465
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:16.440
putting your heart into music and and and you know,

466
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.680
putting it all out on the table when you're creating

467
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.400
or performing, and and you know, we we make that

468
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.359
a huge importance in the band, and I think a

469
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.599
lot of people that can break down preconceived notions about

470
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.240
genres or what people's impressions of what we are or aren't.

471
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.400
I love that because that makes bands unique nowadays, the

472
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.400
blending of genres and instead of the you need to

473
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.799
just be this. And I also like, I think Amy

474
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:51.160
Lee for exactly what you were saying before, like she's

475
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.480
goth but she's also not too goth, you know, and

476
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.200
like that she was exactly who I thought of when

477
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.160
you were saying that, because everybody loves her, whether you're

478
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.039
a goth or not.

479
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:11.039
Yes, yes, honestly, the life is too short. There are

480
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.880
way too many things to that are are more reasonable

481
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.920
to bring you down in life. Just enjoy the music

482
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.480
that's out there. I cheat yourself from the joys you

483
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.400
can get from all types of music.

484
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.480
Right exactly. And I think that's where I can't speak

485
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.759
for Canada, but I think that's where the US is

486
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.319
getting smarter, because I think Europe has always kind of

487
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.119
been that way. Like you went to European festivals, it

488
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.480
was always a mixture which you didn't have here, and

489
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.240
now we're starting to have it, Like I do all

490
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.720
the Danny Wimmer festivals here. I was just came back

491
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:50.680
from one, and like we had pop, punk, we had goth,

492
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:56.480
we had you know, metal, we had thrash, we had hardcore,

493
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.400
you know, like we had every kind of even hit pop,

494
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.480
every kind of music there, and we were all on

495
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.759
the same team.

496
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.359
No, that's a that that's exactly what I love about music.

497
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:17.119
That that that border breaking thing, and it's you know,

498
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.240
like there's you know, I'm I'm not going to go

499
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.039
up and do rap, but it's sure like getting to

500
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.680
play with our friends like seven Centers and going out

501
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:31.440
and see people doing other other types of music, like

502
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:33.200
why would you cheat yourself from that?

503
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:35.039
It's just I.

504
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.319
Don't know, it's a And then even the the just

505
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.079
getting to meet other creators. Yeah, you know, I've I've

506
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.640
found some of the best people I've had interactions with

507
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.599
are almost always centered around live music.

508
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.799
Right, and you could still learn a lot from people

509
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:58.079
in other parts of the genre or other genres, and

510
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.279
maybe there's something that creates some influence in your music

511
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.000
that makes you unique, that came from somewhere you've never expected.

512
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.759
Absolutely, and especially with some of the touring we've been

513
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.000
doing in some of the smaller areas, there's.

514
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:16.960
Not a lot of similar sounding bands or.

515
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.839
Other people to play with play with guys, so we

516
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.960
have had the opportunity to do shows with rappers, with

517
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.960
hip hop groups with just completely different genres or like

518
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.720
somewhat similar genres aren't really similar, and like it's so

519
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.440
nice to just get to get to meet all the

520
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.079
people and get to experience the music together.

521
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.480
Well, like I just thought of too when you're talking

522
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.759
about that, when Lady Gaga performed with Metallica, and I

523
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.119
was like, oh my god, what a badass she is.

524
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.240
She's a badass metal head, you know. And it was

525
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.799
right after she did something with Tony Bennett. So it's

526
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.559
like I had a whole different respect for her because

527
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:04.119
she's so versatile and she doesn't even care. She doesn't

528
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.720
even care what genre whatever. And I mean like I

529
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.119
remember being in awe of her when she was doing

530
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.480
that performance with Metallica. I'm like, who knew, you know,

531
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.279
But that's what's cool.

532
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.319
I mean Gaga. Bringing up Gaga is probably one of

533
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.960
the one of the less obvious influences that goes.

534
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.359
Into the We definitely listen to Lady Gaga.

535
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.440
We actually the only cover that we have right now

536
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:33.799
is a Lady Gaga cover.

537
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:40.440
Nice, which one applause Nice. Well, she's like super talented.

538
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.559
I think she's goth personally, you know, like she's an

539
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.319
artist exactly.

540
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:47.440
It's all art.

541
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.799
And I feel like we resonate with that too, where

542
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.200
it's like, yeah, you got it, Like if you can

543
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.400
only pick one, you'll call her pop. But like and

544
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.559
if you have to pick one, you'll call us metal,

545
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.000
but when you really start killing back the layers, you

546
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.279
see that there's more than just that. There's there's a

547
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.440
whole whole bunch of layers to what makes Lady Gaga

548
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.400
what Lady Gaga is. And I only could hope that

549
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.159
I could be part of creating something that has something

550
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.840
like that, that's that interesting and well done.

551
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.960
You know what's cool about her too, is so I

552
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.320
interviewed a band last year at one of the festivals

553
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.599
that was like a very extreme metal band, and two

554
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.719
of the members in a band they actually work for Gaga. Okay,

555
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:38.519
and they play for Gaga and doesn't surprise me, and

556
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:42.199
they talked about her like in the best way possible,

557
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.119
and they were like, Yeah, she's the one that encouraged

558
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.320
us to do this, and for that I have mad

559
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.159
respect because there's so many other artists out there that

560
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.639
wouldn't do that. Perfect example of the opposite that is

561
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.039
Metallica with Jason Newstead, because that's why he left the

562
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.079
He wanted to do some side stuff to explore his

563
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.480
own creativity that had nothing to do with Metallica, and

564
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.679
James and Lars weren't for it, you know, And now

565
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.480
they realize, Like if you listen to James and Laws now,

566
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.079
they realize how stupid they were that they should have

567
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.599
let him have that outlet, you know, And it didn't

568
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.199
affect Metallica. That's what they were afraid of. It would

569
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.679
affect Metallica, but it doesn't affect And I think it

570
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:31.079
as the exact opposite because these two guys band they

571
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:35.440
would do anything for Gaga just because of that, because

572
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:37.840
she encouraged them.

573
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.800
Yeah, it's well, I look at that even with our bandmates.

574
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.239
It's very, very similar where where it's like there's no

575
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:48.000
way when you're doing a band, and especially when you're

576
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.440
you're grinding and putting your all into it at the

577
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.960
starting levels, you always worry that that something's going to

578
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.079
go sideways with your project. But at the same time,

579
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.920
the benefit that you see from from musicians getting to

580
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:07.679
go and do things with other musicians, they bring it back.

581
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.639
But like just naturally right, Yeah, are our drummer No

582
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:15.639
plays in the band Technosis that we'll be touring with,

583
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.960
and he also has an awesome band called the Vertebreakers,

584
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:25.199
And our bassist plays with another band called Phoebe The Phoebe,

585
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.920
So we so we do have members that work on

586
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.079
other projects. I've been just kind of the one that

587
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.719
just because I've been doing so much of the behind

588
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.480
the scenes stuff with the band and me and mel

589
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.719
it's the fixers had to kind of become ours are like, yeah,

590
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.480
we can't. We just don't have the time allotment to

591
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.039
do other things. So it's it's nice to see what

592
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.760
those two are bringing to the table, because them playing

593
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.400
with other other musicians is almost you know, it's not

594
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.360
the same as me actively going and playing with somebody else,

595
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.159
but they're still bringing cool concepts that have come from

596
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.639
their other bandmates that I respect immensely.

597
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.000
And they're more than happy to play with you because

598
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.800
you're allowing them to creative outlet that they may not

599
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.760
have in your band.

600
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.800
So that's yeah, I've been the multi band guy, and

601
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.039
it's and you know, I know what it's like to

602
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:25.559
have have a band lead making it, you know, miserable

603
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.559
for you to to work on exploring and yes, and

604
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.440
I know how much I appreciated when when we just

605
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.360
kind of like, you know, set these things aside, listen

606
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.599
to each other what we wanted and why and how

607
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:41.159
we made it work, rather than getting hung up on

608
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.159
what may not even be an issue.

609
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.840
Right, And I think all artists need to experiment and

610
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.159
explore period. I think that's one hundred part of being

611
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:51.760
an artist.

612
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.599
Yeah, if you can't actively be participating in it, like

613
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:03.559
it's it's important to just keep yourself somehow dabbling in

614
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.480
other things. Like to me, when I get to go

615
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:11.400
and say work on recording with another band, doing a

616
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.519
recording for them, I feel like that's always such a

617
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:20.480
rewarding experience on multiple levels. Just be able to see

618
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:25.760
somebody else's process. It scratches that itch a little bit

619
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.519
where I'm where I'm not having multiple projects that I'm working.

620
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.719
On, no doubt. And how did you guys finally find

621
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.440
each art because it sounds like, based on what you

622
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:41.880
said earlier, that your universes were bound to collide, you know,

623
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:43.639
you just didn't know it yet.

624
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.800
Yeah, Yeah, we have a I was doing a Van

625
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.880
Essence tribute, so I was I was living out my

626
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.519
dream of doing some Amy Leave covers.

627
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:02.280
And our drummer at the time saw Meladonna performing the

628
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.239
Evanescence covers and we actually at the same time had

629
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.079
started as a tribute group as well. We were doing

630
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:16.320
Rob Zombie tributes and then later changed to doing a

631
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.440
Ramstein tribute with a very small lineup change. So we

632
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:26.440
after we had done the two tribute bands, we decided

633
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.800
we wanted to start doing some original music and try

634
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:35.039
maybe doing something you know, that's kind of at least

635
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:40.480
influenced in being the all encompassing musical project that has

636
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.880
some theatrics, has the visuals put with it on the

637
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.519
dark lean, but something in that realm with original music.

638
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:57.239
And our singer from those bands was actually a very

639
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:02.400
gifted lead guitar player, so he had moved into the

640
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.800
lead guitar position in the Fixer, and then we started

641
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.280
looking for a singer. We did try two other people

642
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.639
before that were you know, wonderful people to work with.

643
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:18.280
It just wasn't quite right. But then once we found Mallet,

644
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.719
it kind of solidified. The Band's gone through a lot

645
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:26.199
of changes since then, but the band really kind of form,

646
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.159
like really took its shape once Mel and I started

647
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:29.840
working together.

648
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.119
Yeah yeah, now you have your sound. Yeah yeah. And

649
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.559
I have to say how brave you are to do

650
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:41.599
Evanessence tributes because every singer I know is afraid to

651
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:42.639
sing anything.

652
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.519
Amy Lee, I learned how to sing with Evan Essence

653
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.880
covers because they were one of the only things that

654
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.239
I was interested in doing that my music teachers would

655
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.320
let me do because it was close enough to classical. Right,

656
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.000
she's a classically trained singer, like.

657
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:08.519
Right this, yeah, and it is I think for those

658
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.679
that don't know, like, she is just such an unbelievable talent.

659
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.360
That's why I said what I did, because if you

660
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.920
can sing her stuff, you can pretty much sing anything

661
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:18.719
I think.

662
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.280
I mean, evan Essence is a hard one to I know,

663
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.480
I hear every now and then in interviews, Amyle is

664
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.360
speaking not as highly of the Fallen Record, but like

665
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.360
I look at that as like being one of the

666
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:41.599
like classic albums of that generation. Like it's like to me,

667
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.119
it's like, but I get it as an artist too,

668
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.079
Like as soon as you're creating new stuff, regardless of

669
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.760
how other people receive it, you're probably creating that art

670
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.719
for a reason. Yeah, right, So like I get it.

671
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.400
But at the same time, like the like like I

672
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.679
think of like bring Me to Life, uh, and even

673
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.239
going Under and My Immortal as like.

674
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.159
That's the best ever my Immortal, Like.

675
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.440
Yeah, those are like defining songs of.

676
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.599
That was my first Eesnce song.

677
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.599
And that one is hard one to sing for sure. Yeah,

678
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.159
and I think, you know, I think it's true though.

679
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.679
I think a lot of times artists they don't want

680
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:26.639
to be defined by that one moment that most people define.

681
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.599
Like the people that aren't true Evanescence fans, that's what

682
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.559
they define evanessenceays bring me to life, you know, So

683
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.440
I get that part of it. You know. It's interesting

684
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.440
too as you grow as an artist and learn your

685
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.719
craft more and kind of figure out who you are

686
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.639
as an artist, I could see also again where that

687
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.360
kind of stuff would be, Like, well that wasn't really

688
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.559
where I was going. This is where I wanted to go.

689
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.960
But it was a moment in time, you know, type

690
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.719
a thing, you know, opposed to what what people want

691
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:04.960
to earmark.

692
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:11.599
Them like we like we feel it too, when like

693
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:15.199
now as we've had new music coming into our live set,

694
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.320
it gets harder to pick setless because there's songs that

695
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:22.360
we know from from playing for a while that there's

696
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.519
some songs that people will come and want to hear.

697
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.079
But you know, you want to showcase where where your

698
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.920
progression is and where your heart currently is. But like,

699
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:37.239
but you don't want to cheat somebody of what they

700
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:38.599
are connected to. Yeah.

701
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.840
Well, and it's funny too. Like the example I think

702
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:48.719
of most is the band I Prevail and a couple

703
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.000
of festivals ago, they're like, Okay, I guess we're going

704
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.760
to play this song. Everybody wants us to play instatae

705
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.119
or Swift cover, which most people that don't know I Prevail,

706
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:03.360
they know them by that song. And you could tell

707
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:09.599
it was like, fuck, why we ever covered a song

708
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:12.480
because now we have to sing it forever, you know,

709
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:16.480
type of thing, you know, and they want to be

710
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.800
known by other things, especially like you said, as you're

711
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.000
writing new music, you want it. You want that music

712
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.320
to get out there because that's who you are writing

713
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:27.920
then in there as an artist.

714
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.639
Yeah, but it's a but you know, it's a you

715
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.760
sometimes have to step back, uh and and see see

716
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:41.039
a grander picture than just yourself. Yeah, and it's you know,

717
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.559
that's that is a challenging thing to do when you're

718
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.159
an artist and you're you're very attached to your music.

719
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.119
But it's I I feel like, I don't know, I

720
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.239
just don't understand why you wouldn't want to relish in

721
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.719
the fact that somebody is getting so much out of

722
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.199
something you could write, right, It's just to me, that's

723
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.280
that's the magic of music. The music is greater than

724
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:11.719
what what our individual project is, and what music can

725
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.840
do is is the real magic. So if you're able

726
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.840
to do something that that really creates that magic. To

727
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:22.280
to me, it's like even though understanding the difficulties in

728
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.639
the the said order, like, we're just grateful that we

729
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.039
have songs that people will come out and actually sing

730
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:29.159
along the words to.

731
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:35.280
It shows ever seeing someone now the words to your song, Like,

732
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.800
what do you mean the words to my song?

733
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.199
That's what I was gonna say. It's gonna be the

734
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.719
best feeling ever when you see people singing your song.

735
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.440
We actually had one person do the choreographed dance from

736
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.280
one of our music videos, Like in the audience, I

737
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.039
was like, oh my god, you're doing the choreography with me.

738
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:57.880
To go through and learn the choreography from a music

739
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.440
video is just like I can can't imagine attempting to

740
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:01.760
do that.

741
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.119
I don't I know it. That's so badass. And then

742
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.840
or like Aftershock, which I just did, bring me a

743
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:18.320
Horizon headline and they brought somebody on stage to sing

744
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:22.159
a whole song, like just random from the crowd, random

745
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.800
from the crowd, and this this dude did it like perfect,

746
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.199
and Ali just sat back there like he was just

747
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.280
sitting there admiring while the dude sang the whole song

748
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:42.519
on stage. Fantasy, right, you know. So, I mean it's

749
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.840
I think to Ali, that was like, Wow, how cool

750
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.119
is this that somebody actually knows my song so well

751
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.400
that I don't even have to help. I can just

752
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.840
sit in here and watch, you know. So, I mean

753
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.559
that's what it's all about.

754
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.800
Yeah, when you can see something like that way and like,

755
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.960
to me, it's just be able to see somebody get

756
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:11.679
that much joy and know that that experience of coming

757
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.440
to the show and having something like that, whatever kind

758
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.000
of moment it is, and I know that that's going

759
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.639
to make their existence around them feel better extending past

760
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:26.079
the show. That's that's the goal. That's that's like why

761
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.599
music should be happening. That's why live music is important

762
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:30.639
and special.

763
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.960
A million percent. So tell everybody and I reach out

764
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.960
to you guys on socials, check out your music, check

765
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.119
out your tour dates, merge everything.

766
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.440
So if you want to check us out online on

767
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:48.199
most platforms, we are the Fixer Canada aside from Facebook

768
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:54.039
where we are the Fixer Band and definitely head on

769
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.039
over feel free to reach out to us. We love

770
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.559
getting to interact with people, hear what you think about

771
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.239
what we're doing. Make sure you come and check out

772
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:07.199
the remaining tour dates on our Ugly Nots tour. We

773
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.719
have dates between Ontario and Alberta in Canada, and make

774
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.000
sure you stay tuned to our socials even post tour,

775
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:20.280
because we will. Our plans are to once we get home,

776
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.920
start wrapping up the writing that we've been doing over

777
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.039
the last year two and actually get to working on

778
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:31.239
another full length album.

779
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.920
Can't Wait. And you guys are badass and everybody needs

780
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.800
to check you out. I don't care where they are

781
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:41.559
from in the world, they need to go to Canada

782
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:42.320
and check you out.

783
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.840
Yeah, we do appreciate that we have had some love

784
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.039
coming from so many different corners of the world. When

785
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.280
we first started the band, we wouldn't have dreamed to

786
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.840
have had the people reaching out to us as excited

787
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:03.039
about us, you know, whether it be in Europe, for

788
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:07.960
South Africa, or you know, even even the US to

789
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.559
us being you know, folks that have been very much

790
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:16.000
like you know, uh, hanging around in our northern Ontario

791
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.519
region for for so many years that our music would

792
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.199
actually travel as far as it did.

793
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.639
Thank you to you for spending the time talking.

794
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:32.320
To us and pleasure and it's appreciated you introducing us

795
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.800
to maybe some new listeners that maybe you haven't heard

796
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:35.360
of us yet.

797
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.440
Absolutely they should are any of your shows on this

798
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.159
upcoming tour near Calgary. I don't remember.

799
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:52.599
We actually just had our Calgary show. The venue decided

800
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:56.400
because it's Thanksgiving Monday, that they did not want to open.

801
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.280
Uh we are, so we thought we had a show

802
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.679
in Calgary. We we'll be in Calgary. So if you

803
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.079
have a show for us to play, let us know.

804
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.559
Yeah, I'm gonna I have somebody that is a co

805
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.280
host of mine on my live show that that's where

806
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.599
she is, So I'm gonna I'm gonna have her look

807
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.880
out for you. But I'm gonna have her go to

808
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.920
one of your shows since she represents if.

809
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.960
She doesn't and is willing to make the trip down.

810
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.119
Next Tuesday, we will be playing in Lethbridge, Alberta, which

811
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.159
I think is about two hours. I think that's the

812
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.400
closest and and in Canada.

813
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:33.639
Two hours is nothing.

814
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.679
Exactly, let's just falling the lunch.

815
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.960
We're also playing in Edmonton on on the Sunday of

816
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:48.000
the Thanksgiving long weekend, and we're playing with a really

817
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.199
awesome band there called Dark and Skies, as well as

818
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.480
another really cool band called ashen Meyer. That show, too,

819
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.960
is totally worth the trip up even beyond. I would

820
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.559
travel the miles just to go see the two locals

821
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:05.199
from Edmonton.

822
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.599
And I know she's gone the shows in Edmonton before,

823
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:12.840
so I'll definitely tell her about that one too. So cool,

824
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.159
you guys, rock and thanks for being on the Adventures

825
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:16.760
of pipe Man.

826
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:19.280
Thanks for having us on the Adventures of pipe Man

827
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:20.840
My pleasure.

828
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:26.320
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on

829
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.760
w for CUI Radio.