June 9, 2025
PipemanRadio Wants to Know Why Johnny Hates Sports
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Hi, you love done to thissu? Why great Young?
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here
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with man. This is gonna be a good one because
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this is a show host on our network that talks
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about something that's not talked about a lot. And I
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know I've experienced it. I know you the listeners have
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probably experienced it. And now we're going to find out
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why Johnny Hates Sports with Fred eng How are you?
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Good morning, pipe Man, And it's great to be with
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you this morning.
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Oh great to have you. And so tell me, let's
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let's start off right off the get go. What was
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the what was the impetus that made you come up
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with the concept of talking about why Johnny hates sports?
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What does that represent?
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Well, the whole idea of you know, people have asked
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me after the fact of you know, I wrote the
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book Why Johnny Hates Sports, and because of my background,
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I had seven kids that played and I saw all
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the things I didn't want to see happen out there.
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But the whole reason why Johnny hates sports is you
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know what happens is kids are six years old, they
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hardly know how to tie their shoes, and yet we
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expect them to play like they play baseball or whatever
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in the major leagues. So that's what starts out with kids.
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And then all of a sudden, the league says, hey,
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we got to have somebody to come out here to coach,
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and it's got to be you, dad, you know, because
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we don't have coaches. So here you got what I
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call Billy Jones's father or Johnny Jones's father, or Mary
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Whatever's mother, and somebody's out there in the field trying
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to coach them. They may not have ever played this sport.
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They don't know anything about the sport at all of catching, throwing, kicking,
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hitting skills. So they're out there as a coach. So
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can you imagine the kid trying to be, you know,
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having fun with somebody trying to show them to do that.
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And then the next thing that you have is you've
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got the league itself. And this league has made up
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a group of guys or plumbers, truck drivers, pharmacists, care
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you mean.
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They don't actually play in the sport that they're running.
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No, no, no, So so you got them out there
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and they're organizing all of this, and so the main thing.
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They say, well, what is our goal here? Well, well,
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what is every sports goal? It's winning, And so get
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it back to the idea of kids starting out at
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six years old, and the statistics show amazing, isn't that
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they started six years old and by the age of
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thirteen seventy percent of them we will equit. And when
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I asked why they quit, they say that it ceased
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to be fun because of the pressure put on parents.
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You know, parents are out there screaming, yelling because they
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dropped the fly ball. I was doing an interview one
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time TV in Tampa. Never forget right. Here's a guy
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in a hockey program kids about eight, nine years old whatever,
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same thing. He misses a goal and the camera catches
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him and he's yelling and screaming. He says, you bum billy,
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you can never do anything right. I say, how would
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you like to be that age and your father calling
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you a bum? You missed the goal in a hockey.
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And hockey is the worst, because I have all of
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them because I coached a bunch of sports, but I
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coached hockey and that was the worst. You know, And
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like to your point, I played baseball for nine years.
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By the time I got to high school, I was
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over it, and and I originally I wanted to go
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to major leagues originally, but then it was just like
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I was over it by then. But then in coaching,
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I know there's other coaches that like, what are how
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are they teaching these kids how to play baseball? They
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never played themselves. That's what ended up me coaching, because
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like I would have my kid on a team that
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the coach didn't even know what they were talking about
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or or anything about the game.
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Yeah. Well, the funny thing is about you know what
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I mentioned before, that bother is out there at times,
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kid up and they say, well, the line's over here
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for you. You know it, signed up to coach it.
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Why kidding me? I'm not coaching. I got work to
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do and I get home and okay, well then uh next,
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because Billy, your son can't play. What do you mean
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he can't play? Well, if we don't have a coach,
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then he can't play. We don't have a team. So
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there you go, and you got you got people out
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there doing it and trying to do it. But the
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worst part about it, I mean, you know, you can
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be a baseball coach and and just sit there in
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the dugout and watch what goes on. But that's not
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what happens. Now they get all excited, you know, the
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scores two to two and now it's fifth or seventh
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thing and whatever. And now that everybody starts to get nervous,
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the people in the stands start yelling at the coach,
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put him in there, put him in there, Scott saying
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wait a minute, and so get it's just bedlam. And
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that's like I could say, seventy of the kids drop out.
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And that's evident of why. You know, it's it's such
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a bad situation for so many kids.
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Yeah, and and you know it's a bad situation for
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the parents too. I find for multiple reasons. You can
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tell me what your opinion is, but number one, because
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you know they they first of all, they don't know
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what they're doing. So if there's parents that are seeing
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their kids that could have potential that aren't being taught
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the right way, and how those parents react to those
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coaches or you have, you know, like the typical coach
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happens a lot in hockey where you know, they think
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their kids should play all the time, and they're a
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bully and so ergo they're going to bully the coach
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and you know all the things that go on that
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these kids have to see. Now it's bad enough to
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you know, they're put under pressure to you know, play
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like their professionals instead of in a rec league. But
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now they're seeing their parents act ridiculous.
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Yeah, I mean you mentioned they're playing in the rec
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league and what is in the last several years that's
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come along as the travel teams, and so what happens
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with the travel teams, it's really really hurting the rec programs.
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You got kids in communities, you know, no matter where
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you live in the country, there's parts of w rec
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departments and they've got fields all over town Northwest Park,
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Southwest Park, East whatever. And on those parks they got
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ball fields that they built with the idea that kids
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would play baseball. Well, the w REC Department doesn't organize it.
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They allow the permits for Billy Jones, It's father and
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whoever come in and say hey, we've got to have
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a baseball for our kids. And that's how it starts.
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So you got the tune of millions of kids across
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the country that are now playing in ret programs. And
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then in the last few years. What happens is they
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going to try to get a permit that's a uh
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sorry that it's not available. What do you mean it's
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not available? Well, we have travel teams that have paid
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money to lease the field, and it's so the travel teams,
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you know, they appeal to the parents' ego and they say, yeah, look,
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you know if you sign up, and who's doing this,
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this is a code or excuse me, the organizer of
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the travel team who's getting paid, and the coaches are
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getting paid. And so they say to the parent, looke,
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your kid doesn't sign up for this. I mean, he's
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a good ballplayer and he's gonna make it in the
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major leagues or he's going to get his college scholarship.
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So you don't want to miss out on this. You
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know how much these people are paying for a year
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for the kid to go out there and play in
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travel Oh, I'm.
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Sure the listeners don't know unless they're paying it, because
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it's a lot of money.
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Fifteen thousand dollars. I was on somebody one of the
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interviews the other day. He said, you know, it must
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cost you about five thousand dollars and it's lady left.
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He said, yeah, I wish he was five thousand, fifteen thousand.
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We paid last year. I said, what's for? Well, when
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you go to the tournament, you got to take the kids,
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you got to say the hotel, you got to pay
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the coaches, you got to pay everything. And the worst
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part about it is now these guys that are calling
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themselves professional coaches, they're saying, you know, if your kid Doug,
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you out there and play all year long, yeah, it
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guess what happens. Just like you were talking before, you
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get to a certain age and you get burnt out
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and say, oh this, how about out of here? And
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because its just too much.
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I find where we are too in Florida. It's even
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more prevalent because like I'm from New Jersey, And what
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was cool about in New Jersey when I was raising
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my kids is that they could play a different sport
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for different seasons, because there was you know, it only
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was certain seasons. Here. What I really didn't like is, oh,
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if you take a season off of this sport to
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go play another sport, well you're not in the end anymore,
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Like you're not part of the click anymore. It's like
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you have to you can't miss one season or else
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you fall to the bottom of the heap.
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is you got the kid that you know, he's got
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friends and he's got other things that he made you
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want to do, but he eats. And so I don't
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want to disappoint my parents because they're spending all this money.
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I'll tell you tell him that, right, Like the parents
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after the season, you can, but you have to stick with.
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It no matter what.
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the season. It's like, nope, you need to do this.
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And I think kids want to try different sports too.
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Yeah. The funny thing with a show that I do
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is you kind of well know called why Johnny a Sports,
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which a little promo here is on Friday morning at
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eleven am for anybody that's listening here. But you know,
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talking about it the other day one of the shows
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that the woman was saying, yeah, we spent fifteen thousand
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dollars for a year. You know, I said, well why
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you spend that money? He said, well, you know, my
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kid can get a scholarship. They don't do this, They're
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not going to get a scholarship. I said, well, what
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if you just forgot about all that and started saving
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all that money, because you're not going to be guaranteed
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to get a scholarship, but if you put the money aside,
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you'll have money for them to go to college. Because
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you know, the statistics will show. It's amazing that parents,
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even though they know this, they don't give it. Damn
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he can make it. But less than two percent of
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any kid that goes out in a baseball program and
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signs a major league contract will ever play in the
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major leagues. You're not amazing. So you know, some of
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the people that have had on the show, a guy
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that actually, you're going to have you back next week.
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He went through the whole process of that, and I
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asked him about it, said, you know your parents push
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you into that because it's oh yeah, absolutely, they knew
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I was going to making to the major leagues. And
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he signed the contract, played for the Cardinals in the
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minor leagues, and he said, I rode around a bus
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all around the Carolina's worst experience in my life. Never
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played a day in the major leagues.
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Wow, Wow, and then you know you're talking about parents before.
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Like I was at one of my grandson's football games,
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a tournament, one of those tournaments, and this guy brought
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his kid into the bathroom and the whole place could
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hear him screaming at the kid, like and just totally
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belittling the kid because maybe he made a mistake in
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the game. In the game, you.
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Know, Yeah, you talk about hockey. Hockey and football are
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the two wors for kids and sports. I'll tell you
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a quick story, but mother, Mother was telling me one
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time in one of the talks I was getting somewhere.
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She came up afterwards and she said, I gotta tell
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you what happened to my son in the football program.
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He was gonna go to a dental appointment and I
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had to go over to practice and pick him up.
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And I got there and when I got there, I
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couldn't find him. And I went over the coach. I said,
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where's my son. He said, he's over the car, over there,
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he said. She said, I said, what's he doing in
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the car? She said, well, he's over there. Get She
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goes over, opens the door of the car. And this
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