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Punk, Humor, and How to Survive Late Sets: Bat Allison’s Festival Tales

Punk, Humor, and How to Survive Late Sets: Bat Allison’s Festival Tales
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In this lively episode of "The Adventures of Pipeman W4CY Radio," Pipeman sits down with RJ Houston and Lynette Aleman of Bat Allison at Rocklahoma. The trio discusses festival antics, the band’s musical evolution, songwriting inspiration, band dynamics, and the importance of live music authenticity. With humor and candor, the episode delivers stories from behind the scenes, punk rock philosophies, and tips for fellow musicians.Main Topics Covered

  • Rocklahoma festival experiences and late-night performances
  • The origin and musical ethos of Bad Allison
  • Stories behind songs, including "Mary Had a Little Fucking Lamb"
  • Navigating band relationships and creative differences
  • The power and authenticity of live music
  • Music trivia and discussions of musical influence
  • Social media and audience connection
Key Discussions & StoriesFestival Life and Misadventures
  • Pipeman recounts arriving at the festival after a long journey, only to catch Bat Allison’s 1:30 AM set, and shares stories about mutual friend Sean Nations missing showtimes (00:19).
  • Lynette Aleman and Pipeman joke about artist "Stretch" arriving at the wrong time for the set (02:05).
The Spirit Behind Bad Allison
  • RJ Houston describes Bat Allison as friends coming together to "rock out in a garage," channeling various emotions into music (05:18).
  • The band's sound is diverse, spanning hard rock, punk, and pop influences to reflect different moods (05:39).
  • Discussion of the old school punk vibe: energetic, groove-driven, yet raw and angsty (05:44).
Song Origins & Writing Process
  • "Mama Said" is inspired by experiences in New Orleans, bringing together personal and city-inspired stories (07:38).
  • The satirical "Mary Had a Little Fucking Lamb" evolved from a jam session during a rough time, dealing with themes of addiction and downfall (24:05).
  • The collaborative (and sometimes debated) songwriting approach—balancing band members’ musical preferences (26:58).
Rocklahoma & The Power of Live Shows
  • Bat Allison’s sets consistently draw enthusiastic festival crowds. Lynette Aleman notes Rocklahoma's appeal as a pure rock festival (08:46).
  • Stories about energetic crowds, spontaneous drummer swaps, and the unique thrill of performing live (31:00).
  • RJ Houston advises fellow musicians to channel frustrations into creativity instead of giving up (27:36).
Music Industry, Tributes, and Trivia
  • Engaging in music trivia: opera-trained metal singers, legendary bassists, and famous musical influences (11:10, 12:09).
  • Discussion of covers, musical borrowing, and giving credit—Metallica is highlighted for acknowledging influences and supporting original artists (17:15).
  • Talk on music piracy, Napster's impact, and supporting artists (18:02).
Fan Engagement & Social Impact
  • Emphasis on connecting with fans through shows, social media, and personal interaction (23:45, 31:00).
  • Stories about audience participation and returning fans recognizing the band at Rocklahoma (31:16).
Notable Quotes
  • "It's about friends coming together just to rock out in a garage and get frustrations out, or something in your personal life that's either makes you happy or pisses you off." — RJ Houston (05:18)
  • "If you want it perfect, then go buy our CD ... but why don’t you come check us out too?" — RJ Houston (30:55)
  • "Don't bitch about it, do it." — Lynette Aleman (28:00)
  • "Let's put them on the table, man. Figure them out where they're at. Let's write a song about it." — RJ Houston (28:14)
  • "I've seen Kirk Hammett start a whole song off wrong ... everyone does it. That's live music, man." — RJ Houston & Pipeman (30:37)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Bat Allison Website:batallison.com
    • Central hub for music, merch, tour dates, and social links (23:45)
  • Streaming Platforms: Spotify, Amazon Music
  • Social Media: Instagram, Facebook
  • Song Preview:
    • "So Sick" — Latest release at the time of the interview (22:53)
    • "Mary Had a Little Fucking Lamb" — Song about addiction and spiraling, creative jam story (24:05)
  • Other Bands/Artists Referenced:
    • Paris Jackson
    • Slayer
    • Bring Me the Horizon ("Can You Feel My Heart")
    • Diamond Head
Connect with Bat Allison
  • Bat Allison Website:batallison.com
  • Streaming: Spotify, Amazon Music
  • Social: Instagram, Facebook
Closing ThoughtsThis episode offers a candid look at the realities of performing, writing, and connecting in today’s music world. Whether you’re a passionate fan or a fellow musician, the stories and advice from RJ Houston, Lynette Aleman, and Pipeman provide both entertainment and inspiration. Don't forget to check out Bat Allison’s music and catch them live for the full experience!

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Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio. This is

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the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe Man W4CY Radio,

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and I'm here with.

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Lynette Allman with Pat Allison.

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And RJ Houston from Pat Allison.

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Nice. And I gotta tell you, you guys are assholes. Sweet.

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Thank you.

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I left my house at 5.30 a.m. yesterday morning, Eastern Time.

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And you fuckers made me go to a set at 1.30

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in the morning here at Rock, Oklahoma, man.

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That was not cool.

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What was even worse is that we had to babysit

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Sean Nations at the same time.

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Okay, I owe you on that one, don't I?

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It was funny.

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You won't have to listen to this, but when I

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was walking to the campsite, I saw him just randomly

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hanging out on the side of the road. I'm like,

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aren't you going to bat Allison? He goes, they're tomorrow.

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I'm like, no, they're not.

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They're tonight.

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He goes, no, I was just with them. They're tomorrow night.

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So then I pulled out your message and showed.

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It to him. And he goes, okay, I guess I

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was wrong.

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So you do know he.

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Is a natural blonde. He is, actually, underneath those dreads.

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Really? Well, you know, what's funny is, He was waiting

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for a ride, but it wasn't to your set.

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Okay? And he did somehow end up at your set.

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So there's Sean Nations, has no clue where he is,

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where he's going, and thinks your set isn't even up yet.

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But still ends up there. Oh, man.

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You know what? There's Stretch. I don't know if you

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know Stretch.

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Yeah, I interviewed him earlier. We became good friends.

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We invited him out to our set. I said, I

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want to personally invite you to our set.

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Come out tonight.

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It's a ladies' night. He got there early. So he

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was there, I think, at 1.30. Instead of 1.30 a.m.,

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it was 1.30 p.m. 1.30 p.m.

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So we missed him.

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I'm like, man, I want to meet you. So we've

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got to find him while we're here. He seems like

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the coolest dude.

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I know where he is.

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I can bring you to him.

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Oh, cool. Yeah, if he's not here, he's cooking. So

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after we're done, I'll bring you over to him.

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Okay.

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And then I'll harass him for not being at the

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right set.

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I love it.

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I hope he liked the band that played at 1.30. Yeah, exactly.

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I hope so.

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That's not bad, Allison.

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That was a pretty good crowd for 1.30 a.m. on

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the first pre-party night. Not everybody was even here yet.

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Yeah, I was like you. I was worn out. I

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drove in from San Antonio, got in, ran to the room, changed,

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ran out here, got on stage. I was like, now

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I'm dragging butt. But as soon as I got around

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the crowd and their energy, man, I was wide awake,

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ready to go.

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I was at the big old red bus that always

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has the big crowd. I was at the bus boobs

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and buttholes bus. And you guys were busier than both

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of them combined. Nice.

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And you know how busy they get.

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That is good to hear.

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So this is the second year Camp Rockaholics is doing

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that stage.

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This year it's bigger. A bigger stage, a little bit

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more support. And more bands. It's been insane.

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It's like its own festival.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And he started promoting, like literally when Rockahoma ended last year.

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He got on it, started promoting, started working on the stage,

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started working on the.

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Yeah, it was awesome. Remy did a fantastic job.

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Nice.

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Next year you'll have to play at 1.30 p.m.

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Yes, I would love that.

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So, what is this?

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I hear that you were wearing no pants on stage.

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I didn't notice that.

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What did I do, what? Your pants. Oh, yes, yes, yeah.

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That you were wearing no pants on stage.

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Yeah, because I was packing in a hurry.

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I didn't notice that.

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Yeah, I forgot the pants. I was like, oh, well,

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just go pantsless.

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Funny thing about that is, after your show, I got

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back to my campsite. Like, when I got here yesterday,

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I just set up my tent and did my thing. So,

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I was going to set up everything else when I

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got back to the campsite. Yeah. And originally I had

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packed a blanket and then I decided to pack my

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sleeping bag. And then I decided to take the sleeping

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bag and I was going to put the blanket back in.

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End of the story is my blanket was a hoodie.

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Because I forgot to pack the blanket in after I

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took the sleeping bag out.

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The good thing is it's hot as hell here, so

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you didn't need it.

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Exactly, exactly.

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Just roll it up for a pillow and you're good

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to go.

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I did bring the pillow.

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But that was on my mind of that could be

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a good pillow.

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Hoodies make good pillows.

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Yes, they do.

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So tell everybody who's never heard you guys, what is

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Bad Allison all about?

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Is it about Ozzy? No, it's about.

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friends coming together just to rock out in a garage

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and then you get frustrations out or thoughts out of

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something in the world or something in your family or

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something in your personal life that either makes you happy

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or pisses you off and then we'll sit in the

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garage and we'll start writing songs about it nice and

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that's why all of our songs are different because all

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your emotions are different every day is different yeah we're

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not just sitting one one tempo we could be a

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little hard rock we'd be punk we could be a

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little pop we don't know what it's going to come

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out Well.

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What I do love about your music too is it

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has that old school punk feel, which is like punk

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now is a little different, but the old school punk

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was almost like if you took popular music and gave

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it angst.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like it had that groove, you know, like that you

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could bop to, but then also the brutality of, that

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you could bop somebody to.

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Exactly. And then the simplicity of it, you know, it's

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simple because think back when you were a kid, you know,

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you just want to grab it. Like, I like that song.

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That's cool. And it's so technical. You're like, I can't

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play that. Well, punk you can, you know, it's three chords.

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Exactly.

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We're going to rock and you're going to have fun

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with it. You're going to jump off your bed and

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rock around the house and, you know, just have a

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blast and show your friends, hey, I can play this,

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you know. Nothing to me else than rock and roll.

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When I first picked my guitar, you know, I was

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hitting a bunch of chords and making it sound.

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Cool, you know. Exactly.

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I remember when I was playing guitar as a teenager,

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my dad would yell in, you should give that up,

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you suck.

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Exactly.

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But he didn't get it. I was like experimenting. I

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wanted to see what sounds I could make come out

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of that guitar.

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Exactly.

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So he thought I was trying to play a song.

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I was just trying to annoy the shit out of him. Exactly.

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That's why I said, I just make noise.

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Exactly.

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If it comes out cool or not.

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Like, I was like, oh, man, this music must be

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really good if he's telling me that. Yeah, exactly.

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A long time ago, I was with another band, and

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my mom's into music and all that. So I said, hey, Mom,

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I've got this record out. Check it out. So she

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listens to it. She goes, who was that guitarist again?

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I was like, well, it's me, Mom. She goes, no,

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the good one.

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Oh, my God.

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Wow.

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Mom, that wasn't nice. The mom's supposed to be the

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supportive one.

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Yeah, and moms tell the truth, too. So, you know,

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it's Mama Said.

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That's it. That's it.

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We do have a song called Mama Said, and Mama's right.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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No, so we spend a lot of time in New Orleans.

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Any chance we get, we go to New Orleans. And

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so one of those, Mama Said is inspired. The song

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is inspired by New Orleans.

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What happened in New Orleans?

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Spooky, you know.

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New Orleans is like Vegas. You never tell.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Because I'm thinking New Orleans and Mama said, and it

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kind of sounds like how koalas got chlamydia. You're hanging

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out with Snakebite Whiskey. You do know that 95% of

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koalas have chlamydia.

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Did you know that?

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Wow.

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That's why I brought that up.

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Like.

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We're camping with them they're our neighbors we got campsites

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together ask.

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Them about it later and I want to know if

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they're the ones that gave the koalas chlamydia so you

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guys are.

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Like a staple here at Rock, Oklahoma yeah, I would

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like to be Yeah, we're here all the time.

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We love it.

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I mean, this is like, for us, a premier rock

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festival because it's just rock.

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I mean, it's just rock.

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It's not pop. It's not dance. It's not something disguised

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as rock. It's fucking rock.

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Well, that's like this year, I had a happy surprise

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that I would never expect.

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Slayer headlining.

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Yeah.

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My favorite all-time ever.

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Band, but I would never imagine them headlining Rock, Oklahoma.

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Yeah, exactly. That's crazy, right?

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Like, It reminds me of the days I used to

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see them in L.A. in the 80s. And they had

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to play with all the hair bands because there were

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no other bands to play with.

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That's what they're doing at Rock, Oklahoma.

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Exactly. That's what's cool about Rock, Oklahoma. You've got different

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genres together.

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Exactly. It doesn't matter what it is. And look, you've

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got Paris Jackson.

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How do you have Michael Jackson's daughter and Slayer at

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the same festival?

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That's cool as shit.

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Hell yeah. You know?

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I can't wait for her set, actually. That's going to

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be cool. It's going to be awesome. Let's see what

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Michael gave her.

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You know, I checked her out.

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I checked her out online ahead of time because I

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actually didn't know she was doing anything.

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She sounds awesome. Like, she sounds. real solid.

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Yeah.

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She's, you know, I think she's different than her dad.

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Her dad was kind of an entertainer. And I consider

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her more of a musician.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I like her vocals, too.

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Exactly.

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They're very emotional.

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And I say that when it comes to musicians. Because

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even a singer... your vocal core is your instrument, you know?

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And most people don't realize, like, especially when you're, you know,

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young and stupid and they don't even have technique yet.

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And you're trying to sing thrash metal and you blow

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out your voice because you don't know how to sing shit,

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you know?

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And that's where I give credit to.

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A lot of singers because it's not just about carrying

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a tune.

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It's about knowing the technique.

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So that you can put on a half hour, hour,

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two hour show and not blow out your voice.

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It's like one of my favorite singers. She's not metal,

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but she's cool. And of course, Jansen.

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Okay.

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Man, I love her voice. And she can do it all.

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She can do metal. She can do opera. She starts

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singing and my hair stands up. I'm like, oh my gosh,

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she's so badass.

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Nice. Okay, so let's do a trivia question then. Uh-oh.

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What metal singer is opera trained?

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I don't know. Where's Sean? Can I phone a friend?

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Yeah, he's... I think he's doing an interview. Somebody's talking

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on the mic. It's not him, though. He's looking at

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his audacity. Okay, I'll give you a hint. I'll give

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you a hint. He's also gay.

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That's rather Rob Halford.

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There you go.

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Yeah, I didn't hear that part because she was talking

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about Sean Nations.

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Fucking interrupt.

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Sean Nations can interrupt a show without him even interrupting.

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What is that?

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He's got all the knowledge. So, like, you know, you

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have a metal question.

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I'm like, hey, Sean.

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Okay, I'll have to do more trivia questions then. Who's

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the most famous bassist? That wasn't a bassist, but they

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already had two guitarists, so he drew the short straw

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and had to play bass.

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That happens in a lot of bands, actually.

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There are a lot of guitarists that turn to bassists

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because there's too many guitarists.

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Exactly.

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I just started as a bassist. I didn't get a guitar.

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You're a guitar extraordinaire here.

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You're the bassist.

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I don't get guitar. I like the power of the bass.

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I give up with it.

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I'll give you a hint.

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Okay.

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Liverpool.

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Paul McCartney?

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Yep.

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Oh, wow.

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Now go listen to Beatles music and listen to his bass.

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Sounds like he's playing a guitar.

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Okay.

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That gives me a totally different perspective. I love Paul McCartney.

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I love Beatles. That's one of my favorites.

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All eras.

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All eras. Oh, I'd love to be able to, too,

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from a little kid.

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What really impressed me a lot was, you know that

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documentary where he was with, not Bob Rock, the other dude,

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the producer, the famous producer, but not Bob.

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The one that came out just recently.

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I can see his face. Yeah, we saw it. It

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was so good.

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Yeah, so they were listening to Beatles music, and at

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one point, Paul goes, Paul goes, yeah, you know, back then,

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I just thought I was playing with my bloke, John.

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And now I'm sitting here going, oh, my God, I

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was playing with John Lennon. Like, he was fanboying out

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on John Lennon.

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Yes, I remember that part.

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That was so cool.

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And it was real heartfelt. Like, it was, like, amazing

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to get, like, his perspective, especially now.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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Even after everything that happened, for him to still feel

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that way, that says a lot about him. Now, question

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for you, since you're a big Beals fan. Do you

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think it's really Paul McCartney? Or.

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The crash?

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He's supposed to be dead.

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Yeah, it's Paul McCartney.

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Like, do we know? Was he dead?

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I was reading an article about that. I don't remember

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the exact answer, but it was generated for popularity. He

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never died. Of course. And all the stories they have

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with him walking across the street.

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Well, I, as a kid, bought all the albums because

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of all the clues.

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Yeah. Like all of them.

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Those are great Easter eggs, man. It's a great way

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to sell albums.

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No doubt. No doubt.

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So.

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What are we listening to? I came in here.

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So we do this cover live sometimes.

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Which song are they playing?

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Say Fuck It.

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Say Fuck It. I don't care. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's actually the other band. What's their pop band? They

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stole it. Yeah, somebody did.

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Okay, so I actually learned something the other day. I

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was watching something. I can't remember what it was. It

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was some YouTube channel or it was an Instagram. And

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they were showing songs that were basically ripped off that

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nobody even talks about.

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Oh, I like that.

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I got one for you. Ready?

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What song does it sound like it was either copied

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or sounds just like Master Puppets, Metallica, where Metallica copied it? No.

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I can't think. I got Buck Cherry over here jamming out.

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Trying to listen to one song and think of another song.

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It's a David Bowie song.

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Is it a Bowie song?

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Is it really? Yeah.

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Like the riff in it.

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He's a master.

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The riff in it. David Bowie.

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And they're the masters of covers though, right? Like how

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many covers have they done that people don't even know

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who the original bands are?

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Like Diamondhead.

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They used to do all Diamondhead covers. And Budgie. Yeah,

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Budgie was pretty good.

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You know, Misfits, obviously.

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They're like the masters of cover songs, but people think

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it's theirs.

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Yeah, whatever song they touch, they make it gold. You know,

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Thin Lizzy, whatever it is, you know.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Diamond Head is badass. When they turned that one around.

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I just got to interview, what's his name, Brian from

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Diamond Head, because he was playing with Saxon.

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Nice.

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And so I was there. I didn't bring up the

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diamond that he did. I was interviewing him for Saxon.

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But then he brought, you know, and I was everybody

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gives Lars a lot of shit. But Brian gave him

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such kudos because Lars has always taken care of him

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and that band. And they've always, if you notice, they

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always give credit. Like, it's not like just covering a

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song and you don't give the original band credit. They

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always give credit to the original band. And for that,

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high respect.

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Yeah, because they take their music so serious and they

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want respect for their music. That's why they didn't want

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their money just given away. You know, they worked hard

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to make that music.

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Exactly.

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So someone else works hard for their music, they give

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them credit for it.

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So, yeah, everybody can bitch about Lars, but he actually

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is giving the credit. And he's doing exactly, he's walking

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his talk.

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Yeah.

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You know? He could have easily ripped them off or whatever.

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No. And Brian told me, he goes, I live off

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of those royalty checks to this day.

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That's nice.

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That's cool.

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You know?

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So, hey, you got to give credit where it's credit.

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And he was right about Napster. Everybody gave Lars shit,

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but he was right about Napster.

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You know?

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Maybe people should start listening to the people that sound

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like assholes. Yeah.

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Yeah, see, y'all listen to that. See what he's saying?

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Y'all listen to people that are assholes.

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So what's your warm-up vocal song?

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Oh, is it calling all the assholes in the room?

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From Volbeat. I love that song.

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Okay, unpopular opinion. I don't like their voice.

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You don't like their what?

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The voice. The vocals.

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Really? Yeah.

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I think it's cool. That's what's cool about music.

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Exactly.

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And the point is, you don't have to like everything

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just because it's in the genre you like. And you

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don't have to dislike things that are not in your genre.

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But you've got to like some of the lyrics, though. Like,

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calling all the assholes. I can't do it like you.

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Calling all the assholes in the room.

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Okay, you ready for my favorite lyric?

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What's that?

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Of all time.

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Okay. I'll say the lyric. You tell me the band name.

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Last band failed. Okay? I can't drown my demons. They

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know how to swim. I can't drown my demons. They

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know how to swim. It's a song that got TikTok

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famous recently. That's an older song. Not like older, like

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80s older, but all of a sudden it became like

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big again. I think I'll have to give you some

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more hints.

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We definitely need some hints, but those are deep.

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You'll probably, if you can feel my heart, you might

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figure it out. That was a very strong hint.

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I barely heard it.

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Can you feel my heart?

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No, I don't know what it is. It's the band

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Bring Me to Horizon. Do you know that band?

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No, no. I didn't think so, or else you wouldn't know. So...

460
00:20:09.500 --> 00:20:11.960
Go check out that song, Can You Feel My Heart,

461
00:20:12.029 --> 00:20:15.069
by Bring Me The Horizon. You think that lyric, Steve,

462
00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:17.289
the lyric in the whole thing, Steve, he wrote it

463
00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:18.150
in rehab.

464
00:20:19.809 --> 00:20:20.509
Nice. Nice.

465
00:20:20.529 --> 00:20:20.890
Nice.

466
00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:26.809
And there they are, the troublemakers of all troublemakers.

467
00:20:27.369 --> 00:20:29.789
Are they the Thunder from Down Under with Scuba Steve?

468
00:20:29.970 --> 00:20:34.359
Oh, no. Oh, no, it's the troublemakers. It's the troublemakers.

469
00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:36.559
It's Scuba. Hey.

470
00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:40.059
Hey, mate!

471
00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:41.359
Hey, mate!

472
00:20:42.339 --> 00:20:42.920
Oi! Oi!

473
00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:48.480
Oi, oi, oi!

474
00:20:48.660 --> 00:20:49.480
Oi, oi!

475
00:20:49.619 --> 00:20:54.079
I just noticed that the troublemakers of all troublemakers of

476
00:20:54.180 --> 00:20:57.680
all time just walked into the media tent. You can

477
00:20:57.740 --> 00:20:59.500
say whatever the fuck you want, you fuck.

478
00:20:59.539 --> 00:21:00.200
Fuck yeah!

479
00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:06.119
What do you.

480
00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:07.619
Want me to do with this microphone?

481
00:21:07.700 --> 00:21:08.369
Hold on, hold on.

482
00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:12.460
How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and

483
00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:13.559
an English person?

484
00:21:13.579 --> 00:21:15.119
Say it one more time.

485
00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:17.400
How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and

486
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:18.339
an English person?

487
00:21:18.740 --> 00:21:19.859
That's true.

488
00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:20.440
Aussie and English.

489
00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:22.460
How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and

490
00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:27.180
an English person? I think their accent's a little bit more,

491
00:21:28.029 --> 00:21:30.430
like in the U.S., more southern, like more brash.

492
00:21:32.049 --> 00:21:32.910
It's not high.

493
00:21:33.089 --> 00:21:33.849
It's not high.

494
00:21:34.289 --> 00:21:37.529
I was going to say they're more forthright with their cursing.

495
00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:40.319
They're cursing.

496
00:21:40.390 --> 00:21:41.039
Oh, yeah.

497
00:21:41.740 --> 00:21:45.960
Well, it depends on what part of London you're in.

498
00:21:45.980 --> 00:21:48.380
I think there are more drunks, too, which says a

499
00:21:48.420 --> 00:21:51.599
lot because the U.K. people are drunks. But I don't know.

500
00:21:52.019 --> 00:21:55.359
Every Aussie band I've ever met, they're out of control.

501
00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:57.289
Airborne. They're, like, drunk 24-7.

502
00:21:57.349 --> 00:22:01.750
They make Snakebite Whiskey look like they're sober.

503
00:22:03.089 --> 00:22:04.509
They take so many drugs, you get bit by so

504
00:22:04.529 --> 00:22:05.630
much shit, it kills you over there.

505
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:08.859
Exactly everything can freaking.

506
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:13.430
Kill you man alcohol the anti-venom yeah exactly exactly freshly

507
00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:14.329
brewed at the house.

508
00:22:14.509 --> 00:22:18.170
Especially so if you get stung by a jellyfish in

509
00:22:18.269 --> 00:22:22.650
australia it works better to pee on the sting if

510
00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:24.059
you drank a lot of beer.

511
00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.640
See there's a reason they drink that much see.

512
00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:30.920
There you go so what else do you want to

513
00:22:30.940 --> 00:22:32.299
tell the listeners about your.

514
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:37.059
Band So I think we're going more harder. Like we have,

515
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.740
we do lighter, like more pop punk. We do punk,

516
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:42.400
but we're doing a little bit harder. So we have

517
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.920
like a take on a hardcore punk song coming out,

518
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.009
Four on the Floor. And then our last song, So Sick.

519
00:22:51.029 --> 00:22:56.650
A fun punk song, you know, So Sick, you know.

520
00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:58.630
We just played it last night. It just came out

521
00:22:58.730 --> 00:22:59.950
on Monday, you know.

522
00:23:00.250 --> 00:23:01.250
It was a good song.

523
00:23:01.569 --> 00:23:02.230
So Sick was cool.

524
00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:02.599
I love it.

525
00:23:02.829 --> 00:23:04.069
It was fucking sick.

526
00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:06.049
And that song.

527
00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:08.630
Everybody loves to say that. It's so sick.

528
00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:09.109
Yeah, it was.

529
00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:09.309
Thanks.

530
00:23:09.650 --> 00:23:11.859
That song, I think all of us can relate.

531
00:23:12.130 --> 00:23:14.539
Everybody's had a narcissist in your life or somebody that

532
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.980
just like, just, if you know, you know.

533
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.680
So I always say, dedicate this one to that special someone.

534
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:25.180
You know what I love is the narcissists that think

535
00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:29.869
the other people that they're being narcissists to are the narcissists. Exactly.

536
00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:30.089
Exactly.

537
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:33.819
I see that happen often.

538
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:35.779
It's like Joe Walsh said, you know, everybody else has changed.

539
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:36.339
That's still the same.

540
00:23:36.980 --> 00:23:38.450
Exactly. There you go.

541
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.890
Tell everybody on there, reach out to you, connect on

542
00:23:41.930 --> 00:23:44.349
social media, all that good stuff.

543
00:23:45.589 --> 00:23:52.690
On batallison.com and on Spotify, Amazon Music, Instagram, Facebook.

544
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.579
If you go to batallison.com, it'll list everything where we're

545
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:58.039
at and you can find us. We put QR codes

546
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.079
out also. It should be on there. Hit the QR code,

547
00:24:00.099 --> 00:24:01.400
it'll take you straight to the platforms.

548
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:02.180
Nice.

549
00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.839
And interviews and whatever else. And songs coming out. Everything

550
00:24:04.859 --> 00:24:05.359
that's going on.

551
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:07.579
And we have, so I'll just tell you a little

552
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.740
story about Mary. I had a bad cold.

553
00:24:10.769 --> 00:24:13.119
Well, and it, I got rid of it really quick,

554
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:14.829
but my voice was gone for like a month and

555
00:24:14.849 --> 00:24:17.910
a half. And we were writing album number three, which

556
00:24:17.990 --> 00:24:19.789
is what, that's going to be part of album number three.

557
00:24:20.250 --> 00:24:22.269
And so I told him, I just need to sing deep.

558
00:24:22.309 --> 00:24:23.829
I just need to sing deep. I still need to sing,

559
00:24:23.849 --> 00:24:25.849
you know. And he, so what did you say?

560
00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:27.710
About the new song, Mary?

561
00:24:27.730 --> 00:24:28.130
Uh-huh.

562
00:24:28.809 --> 00:24:29.529
I said, we'll make it.

563
00:24:29.589 --> 00:24:32.670
And he said something like, well, why don't you just

564
00:24:32.690 --> 00:24:35.069
say Mary had a little lamb or something like that?

565
00:24:35.230 --> 00:24:37.269
And I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

566
00:24:37.329 --> 00:24:40.049
And he was like, don't do it. Give me five minutes.

567
00:24:40.069 --> 00:24:41.680
I was like, hold on.

568
00:24:42.019 --> 00:24:44.319
And I was like, okay, ready?

569
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:44.940
And we did it.

570
00:24:45.059 --> 00:24:46.529
And he's like, okay, I like it.

571
00:24:47.420 --> 00:24:49.019
Yeah, I liked it too. Do it.

572
00:24:49.579 --> 00:24:52.700
We wrote that in like, I think under 20 minutes.

573
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:53.720
Do it right now.

574
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:55.599
It was one of the, Kind of set the mood

575
00:24:55.619 --> 00:24:57.859
for this song. We were sitting there in the garage,

576
00:24:57.900 --> 00:25:00.660
it's hot as hell, you know, writing songs. And she

577
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.359
was writing this song, and I was like, what's the

578
00:25:02.380 --> 00:25:04.079
next one going to be? Mary Had a Little F

579
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.329
* * * ing Lamb? She goes, yeah, maybe.

580
00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:07.589
Hold on.

581
00:25:09.430 --> 00:25:10.470
And the next thing I knew, we had Mary Had

582
00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:11.329
a Little F * * * ing Lamb.

583
00:25:12.329 --> 00:25:12.710
Nice.

584
00:25:13.289 --> 00:25:15.670
And it ended up being a song about addiction. About like,

585
00:25:16.109 --> 00:25:20.420
you start with social media, and Mary got... continued her

586
00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:21.880
path through.

587
00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:24.220
That's like a parody between Mary Had a Little M,

588
00:25:24.460 --> 00:25:26.750
you know, and then a good girl, you know, going bad,

589
00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:28.269
you know, trying to do all the right things in

590
00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:29.069
life but can't make it.

591
00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:29.829
Yeah.

592
00:25:30.069 --> 00:25:31.269
So we started turning it down. Okay, I got to

593
00:25:31.289 --> 00:25:32.809
pawn this, now I got to sell this, now I

594
00:25:32.809 --> 00:25:34.109
got to sell that, and I'm into this. And then

595
00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:36.710
before you know it, you know, you're on the dark side.

596
00:25:37.309 --> 00:25:37.910
I'm the dark side.

597
00:25:37.930 --> 00:25:39.470
She followed Little Bo Peep's path.

598
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:41.500
Oh.

599
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:43.240
So a fun part of that is at the end.

600
00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:45.140
They might all be in the campground.

601
00:25:45.380 --> 00:25:46.200
Yeah.

602
00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:47.460
So at the end of the song, there's a solo.

603
00:25:47.740 --> 00:25:50.250
It's kind of like... She sounds like she's on drugs,

604
00:25:50.269 --> 00:25:52.130
you know? And then at the very end, it does...

605
00:25:52.349 --> 00:25:54.230
And I saw a lamb running away, like, later!

606
00:25:55.130 --> 00:25:57.680
Nice. I love it. I love it.

607
00:25:58.650 --> 00:26:01.490
So the cool thing about our songwriting... They'll.

608
00:26:01.329 --> 00:26:04.819
Make me do the lyrics, the bass, like put that

609
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:06.740
all together and like what you want it to be.

610
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.480
And then they build their part.

611
00:26:08.579 --> 00:26:10.019
But I love it when we get to do it

612
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.920
all together, which is rare because of time. So that

613
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.779
day we were like, happened to be like, all right.

614
00:26:15.819 --> 00:26:18.180
I think we were all frustrated that day about different things.

615
00:26:18.220 --> 00:26:19.849
And it's like, it's Tuesday.

616
00:26:19.970 --> 00:26:21.509
We're writing. Get your ass over here.

617
00:26:21.549 --> 00:26:24.990
And like, that's our regular thing is Tuesday. And so

618
00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:27.690
we're like, okay, what are we doing? And like I said,

619
00:26:27.730 --> 00:26:28.089
it's hot.

620
00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:30.369
It's hot. We were dying out there. I was like,

621
00:26:30.490 --> 00:26:30.869
hold on.

622
00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:35.329
So it was Mary had a little fucking lamb, little

623
00:26:35.369 --> 00:26:37.410
fucking lamb, a little fucking lamb. Yeah.

624
00:26:38.339 --> 00:26:38.670
Nice.

625
00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:43.319
But the part that's missing. So we started playing it live. Well,

626
00:26:43.339 --> 00:26:45.440
we recorded it. We started playing it live. And then

627
00:26:45.500 --> 00:26:47.880
after it came out, so we had David McGilvery recording

628
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.680
for us. He's working with Kingdom Collapse. So he's helping

629
00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:51.759
us go heavier on.

630
00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:53.240
The recording, engineering, mixing, mastering.

631
00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:53.519
Nice.

632
00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:57.009
And so afterwards we recorded it and I was with

633
00:26:57.049 --> 00:26:59.009
David and I was like, man, it's missing something.

634
00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:01.779
And then we came up with the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

635
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.359
And so he hadn't heard it yet. I recorded it

636
00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:06.549
like that. And then like, we got to listen to it.

637
00:27:07.019 --> 00:27:09.859
He processed it. And the next time we played it live,

638
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:11.660
he did the coolest thing. And I'm like, I want

639
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:12.549
that on the recording.

640
00:27:12.849 --> 00:27:16.029
So now we go the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

641
00:27:17.049 --> 00:27:20.130
And he goes, yes. And I love it. And I'm like,

642
00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:21.849
damn it. It's not on the recording.

643
00:27:22.410 --> 00:27:25.779
Yeah. That sounds a little Hetfield there.

644
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:29.920
Nice.

645
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:31.339
We had a group of them singing.

646
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.900
It sounds like Hetfield. Yeah.

647
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.640
You're a doppelganger.

648
00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:38.359
Yeah. But one thing I want to say to the

649
00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:41.339
bands out there, you're getting together, you're rocking out, you're

650
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.140
fed up with each other, you're ready to call it quits,

651
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.720
throw the guitar on the ground and walk away. Don't.

652
00:27:46.819 --> 00:27:48.559
Do what we do. Take that energy and put it

653
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.470
back into the band. Say, if you're mad about something,

654
00:27:50.490 --> 00:27:52.640
what are you mad about? This is bullshit, I don't

655
00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:55.940
like this. Let's put on music. Let's get it out.

656
00:27:56.740 --> 00:27:58.069
You know, and we do that. And then we get

657
00:27:58.089 --> 00:27:59.089
to do it and we like it and we.

658
00:27:59.049 --> 00:27:59.230
Go, hey.

659
00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:02.230
Don't bitch about it.

660
00:28:02.470 --> 00:28:02.750
Do it.

661
00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:05.109
Now you're back on track because you took a negative

662
00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:05.910
and you made a positive.

663
00:28:06.089 --> 00:28:08.569
I love that because I'm also a motivational speaker.

664
00:28:08.630 --> 00:28:11.269
So, yeah, don't bitch about it. Just do it.

665
00:28:11.289 --> 00:28:11.529
Exactly.

666
00:28:11.549 --> 00:28:13.529
We're all musicians. We all got egos. You know what

667
00:28:13.549 --> 00:28:14.150
I mean?

668
00:28:14.170 --> 00:28:14.289
Yeah.

669
00:28:14.470 --> 00:28:15.670
Put them on the table, man. Figure them out where

670
00:28:15.690 --> 00:28:16.819
they're at and let's write a song about it.

671
00:28:17.230 --> 00:28:17.799
Roll the dice.

672
00:28:18.740 --> 00:28:20.099
And who wins? Who's getting what part?

673
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.319
It'll come out good in the end. You know what

674
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.640
I mean? It's better than walking away and talking shit

675
00:28:24.660 --> 00:28:25.099
about each other.

676
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.960
No doubt. No doubt. That's the way it should be.

677
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:32.819
We have good debates. We have good debates. We literally

678
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.880
battle it out. Because one person will want it a

679
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.619
little bit lighter, one person will want it a little heavier,

680
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.009
one person will want it more rock or more metal.

681
00:28:41.170 --> 00:28:43.230
There's three of us, man.

682
00:28:43.250 --> 00:28:45.569
And this one wanted it just right.

683
00:28:46.009 --> 00:28:48.410
Yeah, exactly. That's why there's another fourth member in case

684
00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:50.930
somebody's wondering. We already got three egos, man. We can't

685
00:28:50.950 --> 00:28:51.380
handle another one.

686
00:28:51.410 --> 00:28:54.400
I know, right? I don't even know how a band

687
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.519
like Slipknot can exist where you've got nine people. Exactly.

688
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:04.599
That's why Mustaine couldn't stay in Metallica. There would be

689
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.119
too many egos between him, Lars, and James. Like, Kirk

690
00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:12.279
doesn't really have the ego, so he fits in perfectly.

691
00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:15.069
James and Lars can be in charge, and he's good

692
00:29:15.109 --> 00:29:15.390
with it.

693
00:29:15.529 --> 00:29:15.740
Yeah.

694
00:29:16.869 --> 00:29:18.849
Mustaine never would have worked out with that.

695
00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:19.670
Nah.

696
00:29:20.569 --> 00:29:23.890
And he's still upset he couldn't upset it. Nah, I

697
00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:27.430
can't talk. He's still upset he couldn't come to terms

698
00:29:27.470 --> 00:29:28.049
with it, you know?

699
00:29:28.670 --> 00:29:31.680
I don't think he still hasn't come to terms with it.

700
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.880
That's why he put Ride the Lightning on the final album.

701
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.069
Oh, yeah. That's the way I look at it. That

702
00:29:38.089 --> 00:29:40.240
was his last... you know.

703
00:29:41.450 --> 00:29:41.710
Later.

704
00:29:42.250 --> 00:29:42.730
Fuck you.

705
00:29:43.170 --> 00:29:45.190
Probably right.

706
00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:46.609
Anything else we missed?

707
00:29:50.059 --> 00:29:51.329
We've got another song coming out.

708
00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:55.529
We're recording album number three. We took a little bit

709
00:29:55.569 --> 00:29:58.430
longer on this one to take our time, which isn't

710
00:29:58.490 --> 00:30:03.390
our style. We just tried something different. It's coming out.

711
00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:05.579
We've got the songs ready to go. They're going to

712
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.619
be coming out one at a time gradually. Then we'll

713
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.259
put the album out.

714
00:30:09.859 --> 00:30:10.059
Nice.

715
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.309
We appreciate y'all if you go on Spotify or any

716
00:30:12.329 --> 00:30:15.950
platform and hit like. Let everybody know. Out there, share

717
00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:18.250
the music. Because people who don't know us, when they

718
00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:19.789
hear the music, they kind of like it. They come

719
00:30:19.809 --> 00:30:22.470
to the show and they fucking love us. I've seen

720
00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:24.700
some people go, oh my God, I heard your song,

721
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.339
it's cool. But I saw you live and I was like,

722
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:27.380
you're so much better.

723
00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:31.240
That's what it's about. That's what it's about right there.

724
00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:33.440
Everybody makes mistakes. And if you make a mistake on stage,

725
00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:34.099
don't worry about it.

726
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:34.460
Just keep going.

727
00:30:34.619 --> 00:30:36.809
Everyone does it. I've seen Kirk Hammond. He started a

728
00:30:36.829 --> 00:30:38.069
whole song off wrong. Yeah, it's the audience.

729
00:30:38.089 --> 00:30:38.329
Hold on.

730
00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:41.579
Can I start that over? So everyone does it.

731
00:30:41.890 --> 00:30:43.539
That's live music, man.

732
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.640
Exactly. If there aren't any mistakes, man, somebody's got to

733
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.900
hit pause on the recorder in the back.

734
00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:51.059
Yeah, exactly. Can you hit that pause button again? I

735
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.640
did it twice. No kidding. But the point is, if

736
00:30:53.660 --> 00:30:55.640
you want it perfect, then go buy our CD. We

737
00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:56.180
appreciate that.

738
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:56.380
Exactly.

739
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:57.240
Or our platform.

740
00:30:57.380 --> 00:30:59.170
Buy it. We want you to buy it. But come

741
00:30:59.190 --> 00:30:59.710
check us out, too.

742
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.519
Yeah, we want you to come to our shows. Like,

743
00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:03.839
we don't buy it, and we like to hang out

744
00:31:03.859 --> 00:31:04.339
with the fans.

745
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.460
Like, we love to hang out with the fans and meet.

746
00:31:06.529 --> 00:31:07.490
We like making new friends.

747
00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:11.589
So, like, last night, we had a good crowd last

748
00:31:11.650 --> 00:31:15.980
night dancing around, singing to Mary, the hi-yi-yi part, which.

749
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.440
Is so cool. And then coming in today in Rock, Oklahoma,

750
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.579
a couple of people stopped me that were there last night. Like, man,

751
00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:22.859
it was a good set. I was like, awesome.

752
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.119
Thank you. What a great feeling to have that happen.

753
00:31:25.140 --> 00:31:27.720
Good fans. I mean, good people here. Good fans.

754
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:28.700
I mean. I know.

755
00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:30.119
I know you're trying to go get some more interviews

756
00:31:30.140 --> 00:31:31.720
coming up. But I just want to say we had

757
00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:34.619
a guest drummer last night. Our drummer couldn't make it, unfortunately.

758
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:37.119
And so we sat in just learning songs that day.

759
00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:37.880
You know?

760
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.589
So at the end, one of the guys told me,

761
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.519
you know, do another one. One more time. One more time.

762
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:42.609
Like, we can't.

763
00:31:43.109 --> 00:31:43.900
Some songs he knows.

764
00:31:45.049 --> 00:31:47.089
Right? And he did a pretty good job.

765
00:31:47.130 --> 00:31:48.829
He did. He did a real good job for the

766
00:31:48.849 --> 00:31:50.809
same day, really. You know, like four hours. Let me

767
00:31:50.829 --> 00:31:51.990
listen to the songs.

768
00:31:52.049 --> 00:31:52.289
Okay.

769
00:31:52.329 --> 00:31:52.789
Exactly.

770
00:31:52.809 --> 00:31:53.710
Great job, Brian. Appreciate it.

771
00:31:54.049 --> 00:31:56.910
So we borrowed Nikolai's drummer. So we were on a

772
00:31:56.930 --> 00:31:59.910
little mini tour with them. And so I said, hey, man, Billy,

773
00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:02.970
can you help us out tonight? Or I asked him,

774
00:32:03.210 --> 00:32:06.359
I think, the day before. And he's like, okay, let

775
00:32:06.380 --> 00:32:06.920
me think about it.

776
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.319
He's like, yeah, you know what?

777
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:09.190
I'm going to do it.

778
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.539
We're going to do it. We'll figure it out. Nice.

779
00:32:11.900 --> 00:32:14.660
And you did it. So I love it. I love

780
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:15.220
you guys.

781
00:32:15.859 --> 00:32:17.079
Oh, we love you, Pipe Man.

782
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.980
Thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man, because

783
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.400
you guys fucking rock.

784
00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:23.279
You fucking rock too, brother. Yes, sir.

785
00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:31.150
Thank you for listening to The Adventures of Pikeman on

786
00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:31.930
W4CY Radio.