Punk, Humor, and How to Survive Late Sets: Bat Allison’s Festival Tales

0:04 Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio. This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with. Lynette Allman with Pat Allison. And RJ Houston from Pat Allison. Nice. And I gotta tell you, you guys are assholes. Sweet. Thank you. I left my house at 5.30 a.m. yesterday morning, Eastern Time. And you fuckers made me go to a set at 1.30 in the morning here at Rock, Oklahoma, man.

0:50 That was not cool. What was even worse is that we had to babysit Sean Nations at the same time. Okay, I owe you on that one, don't I? It was funny. You won't have to listen to this, but when I was walking to the campsite, I saw him just randomly hanging out on the side of the road. I'm like, aren't you going to bat Allison? He goes, they're tomorrow. I'm like, no, they're not. They're tonight. He goes, no, I was just with them. They're tomorrow night. So then I pulled out your message and showed. It to him. And he goes, okay, I guess I was wrong.

1:34 So you do know he. Is a natural blonde. He is, actually, underneath those dreads. Really? Well, you know, what's funny is, He was waiting for a ride, but it wasn't to your set. Okay? And he did somehow end up at your set. So there's Sean Nations, has no clue where he is, where he's going, and thinks your set isn't even up yet. But still ends up there. Oh, man. You know what? There's Stretch. I don't know if you know Stretch. Yeah, I interviewed him earlier. We became good friends.

2:15 We invited him out to our set. I said, I want to personally invite you to our set. Come out tonight. It's a ladies' night. He got there early. So he was there, I think, at 1.30. Instead of 1.30 a.m., it was 1.30 p.m. 1.30 p.m. So we missed him. I'm like, man, I want to meet you. So we've got to find him while we're here. He seems like the coolest dude. I know where he is. I can bring you to him. Oh, cool. Yeah, if he's not here, he's cooking. So after we're done, I'll bring you over to him. Okay. And then I'll harass him for not being at the right set. I love it. I hope he liked the band that played at 1.30. Yeah, exactly. I hope so. That's not bad, Allison. That was a pretty good crowd for 1.30 a.m. on the first pre-party night. Not everybody was even here yet.

3:02 Yeah, I was like you. I was worn out. I drove in from San Antonio, got in, ran to the room, changed, ran out here, got on stage. I was like, now I'm dragging butt. But as soon as I got around the crowd and their energy, man, I was wide awake, ready to go. I was at the big old red bus that always has the big crowd. I was at the bus boobs and buttholes bus. And you guys were busier than both of them combined. Nice. And you know how busy they get. That is good to hear. So this is the second year Camp Rockaholics is doing that stage. This year it's bigger. A bigger stage, a little bit more support. And more bands. It's been insane.

3:43 It's like its own festival. Yeah, yeah. And he started promoting, like literally when Rockahoma ended last year. He got on it, started promoting, started working on the stage, started working on the. Yeah, it was awesome. Remy did a fantastic job. Nice. Next year you'll have to play at 1.30 p.m. Yes, I would love that. So, what is this? I hear that you were wearing no pants on stage. I didn't notice that. What did I do, what? Your pants. Oh, yes, yes, yeah. That you were wearing no pants on stage. Yeah, because I was packing in a hurry. I didn't notice that. Yeah, I forgot the pants. I was like, oh, well, just go pantsless. Funny thing about that is, after your show, I got back to my campsite. Like, when I got here yesterday, I just set up my tent and did my thing. So, I was going to set up everything else when I got back to the campsite. Yeah. And originally I had packed a blanket and then I decided to pack my sleeping bag. And then I decided to take the sleeping bag and I was going to put the blanket back in.

4:43 End of the story is my blanket was a hoodie. Because I forgot to pack the blanket in after I took the sleeping bag out. The good thing is it's hot as hell here, so you didn't need it. Exactly, exactly. Just roll it up for a pillow and you're good to go. I did bring the pillow. But that was on my mind of that could be a good pillow. Hoodies make good pillows. Yes, they do. So tell everybody who's never heard you guys, what is Bad Allison all about? Is it about Ozzy? No, it's about. friends coming together just to rock out in a garage and then you get frustrations out or thoughts out of something in the world or something in your family or something in your personal life that either makes you happy or pisses you off and then we'll sit in the garage and we'll start writing songs about it nice and that's why all of our songs are different because all your emotions are different every day is different yeah we're not just sitting one one tempo we could be a little hard rock we'd be punk we could be a little pop we don't know what it's going to come out Well.

5:44 What I do love about your music too is it has that old school punk feel, which is like punk now is a little different, but the old school punk was almost like if you took popular music and gave it angst. Yeah, exactly. Like it had that groove, you know, like that you could bop to, but then also the brutality of, that you could bop somebody to. Exactly. And then the simplicity of it, you know, it's simple because think back when you were a kid, you know, you just want to grab it. Like, I like that song. That's cool. And it's so technical. You're like, I can't play that. Well, punk you can, you know, it's three chords.

6:25 Exactly. We're going to rock and you're going to have fun with it. You're going to jump off your bed and rock around the house and, you know, just have a blast and show your friends, hey, I can play this, you know. Nothing to me else than rock and roll. When I first picked my guitar, you know, I was hitting a bunch of chords and making it sound. Cool, you know. Exactly. I remember when I was playing guitar as a teenager, my dad would yell in, you should give that up, you suck. Exactly. But he didn't get it. I was like experimenting. I wanted to see what sounds I could make come out of that guitar. Exactly. So he thought I was trying to play a song. I was just trying to annoy the shit out of him. Exactly. That's why I said, I just make noise. Exactly. If it comes out cool or not. Like, I was like, oh, man, this music must be really good if he's telling me that. Yeah, exactly.

7:08 A long time ago, I was with another band, and my mom's into music and all that. So I said, hey, Mom, I've got this record out. Check it out. So she listens to it. She goes, who was that guitarist again? I was like, well, it's me, Mom. She goes, no, the good one. Oh, my God. Wow. Mom, that wasn't nice. The mom's supposed to be the supportive one. Yeah, and moms tell the truth, too. So, you know, it's Mama Said. That's it. That's it. We do have a song called Mama Said, and Mama's right. Exactly. Exactly. No, so we spend a lot of time in New Orleans. Any chance we get, we go to New Orleans. And so one of those, Mama Said is inspired. The song is inspired by New Orleans. Yeah.

7:49 What happened in New Orleans? Spooky, you know. New Orleans is like Vegas. You never tell. Yeah, exactly. Because I'm thinking New Orleans and Mama said, and it kind of sounds like how koalas got chlamydia. You're hanging out with Snakebite Whiskey. You do know that 95% of koalas have chlamydia. Did you know that? Wow. That's why I brought that up. Like. We're camping with them they're our neighbors we got campsites together ask. Them about it later and I want to know if they're the ones that gave the koalas chlamydia so you guys are.

8:33 Like a staple here at Rock, Oklahoma yeah, I would like to be Yeah, we're here all the time. We love it. I mean, this is like, for us, a premier rock festival because it's just rock. I mean, it's just rock. It's not pop. It's not dance. It's not something disguised as rock. It's fucking rock. Well, that's like this year, I had a happy surprise that I would never expect. Slayer headlining. Yeah. My favorite all-time ever. Band, but I would never imagine them headlining Rock, Oklahoma. Yeah, exactly. That's crazy, right? Like, It reminds me of the days I used to see them in L.A. in the 80s. And they had to play with all the hair bands because there were no other bands to play with.

9:24 That's what they're doing at Rock, Oklahoma. Exactly. That's what's cool about Rock, Oklahoma. You've got different genres together. Exactly. It doesn't matter what it is. And look, you've got Paris Jackson. How do you have Michael Jackson's daughter and Slayer at the same festival? That's cool as shit. Hell yeah. You know? I can't wait for her set, actually. That's going to be cool. It's going to be awesome. Let's see what Michael gave her. You know, I checked her out. I checked her out online ahead of time because I actually didn't know she was doing anything. She sounds awesome. Like, she sounds. real solid. Yeah. She's, you know, I think she's different than her dad.

10:06 Her dad was kind of an entertainer. And I consider her more of a musician. Yeah. You know? I like her vocals, too. Exactly. They're very emotional. And I say that when it comes to musicians. Because even a singer... your vocal core is your instrument, you know? And most people don't realize, like, especially when you're, you know, young and stupid and they don't even have technique yet. And you're trying to sing thrash metal and you blow out your voice because you don't know how to sing shit, you know? And that's where I give credit to. A lot of singers because it's not just about carrying a tune. It's about knowing the technique. So that you can put on a half hour, hour, two hour show and not blow out your voice.

10:51 It's like one of my favorite singers. She's not metal, but she's cool. And of course, Jansen. Okay. Man, I love her voice. And she can do it all. She can do metal. She can do opera. She starts singing and my hair stands up. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's so badass. Nice. Okay, so let's do a trivia question then. Uh-oh. What metal singer is opera trained? I don't know. Where's Sean? Can I phone a friend? Yeah, he's... I think he's doing an interview. Somebody's talking on the mic. It's not him, though. He's looking at his audacity. Okay, I'll give you a hint. I'll give you a hint. He's also gay.

11:45 That's rather Rob Halford. There you go. Yeah, I didn't hear that part because she was talking about Sean Nations. Fucking interrupt. Sean Nations can interrupt a show without him even interrupting. What is that? He's got all the knowledge. So, like, you know, you have a metal question. I'm like, hey, Sean. Okay, I'll have to do more trivia questions then. Who's the most famous bassist? That wasn't a bassist, but they already had two guitarists, so he drew the short straw and had to play bass. That happens in a lot of bands, actually. There are a lot of guitarists that turn to bassists because there's too many guitarists.

12:26 Exactly. I just started as a bassist. I didn't get a guitar. You're a guitar extraordinaire here. You're the bassist. I don't get guitar. I like the power of the bass. I give up with it. I'll give you a hint. Okay. Liverpool. Paul McCartney? Yep. Oh, wow. Now go listen to Beatles music and listen to his bass. Sounds like he's playing a guitar. Okay. That gives me a totally different perspective. I love Paul McCartney. I love Beatles. That's one of my favorites. All eras. All eras. Oh, I'd love to be able to, too, from a little kid.

13:08 What really impressed me a lot was, you know that documentary where he was with, not Bob Rock, the other dude, the producer, the famous producer, but not Bob. The one that came out just recently. I can see his face. Yeah, we saw it. It was so good. Yeah, so they were listening to Beatles music, and at one point, Paul goes, Paul goes, yeah, you know, back then, I just thought I was playing with my bloke, John. And now I'm sitting here going, oh, my God, I was playing with John Lennon. Like, he was fanboying out on John Lennon.

13:54 Yes, I remember that part. That was so cool. And it was real heartfelt. Like, it was, like, amazing to get, like, his perspective, especially now. Yeah. Exactly. Even after everything that happened, for him to still feel that way, that says a lot about him. Now, question for you, since you're a big Beals fan. Do you think it's really Paul McCartney? Or. The crash? He's supposed to be dead. Yeah, it's Paul McCartney. Like, do we know? Was he dead? I was reading an article about that. I don't remember the exact answer, but it was generated for popularity. He never died. Of course. And all the stories they have with him walking across the street.

14:48 Well, I, as a kid, bought all the albums because of all the clues. Yeah. Like all of them. Those are great Easter eggs, man. It's a great way to sell albums. No doubt. No doubt. So. What are we listening to? I came in here. So we do this cover live sometimes. Which song are they playing? Say Fuck It. Say Fuck It. I don't care. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually the other band. What's their pop band? They stole it. Yeah, somebody did. Okay, so I actually learned something the other day. I was watching something. I can't remember what it was. It was some YouTube channel or it was an Instagram. And they were showing songs that were basically ripped off that nobody even talks about.

15:37 Oh, I like that. I got one for you. Ready? What song does it sound like it was either copied or sounds just like Master Puppets, Metallica, where Metallica copied it? No. I can't think. I got Buck Cherry over here jamming out. Trying to listen to one song and think of another song. It's a David Bowie song. Is it a Bowie song? Is it really? Yeah. Like the riff in it. He's a master. The riff in it. David Bowie. And they're the masters of covers though, right? Like how many covers have they done that people don't even know who the original bands are?

16:23 Like Diamondhead. They used to do all Diamondhead covers. And Budgie. Yeah, Budgie was pretty good. You know, Misfits, obviously. They're like the masters of cover songs, but people think it's theirs. Yeah, whatever song they touch, they make it gold. You know, Thin Lizzy, whatever it is, you know. Yeah, exactly. Diamond Head is badass. When they turned that one around. I just got to interview, what's his name, Brian from Diamond Head, because he was playing with Saxon. Nice. And so I was there. I didn't bring up the diamond that he did. I was interviewing him for Saxon. But then he brought, you know, and I was everybody gives Lars a lot of shit. But Brian gave him such kudos because Lars has always taken care of him and that band. And they've always, if you notice, they always give credit. Like, it's not like just covering a song and you don't give the original band credit. They always give credit to the original band. And for that, high respect.

17:28 Yeah, because they take their music so serious and they want respect for their music. That's why they didn't want their money just given away. You know, they worked hard to make that music. Exactly. So someone else works hard for their music, they give them credit for it. So, yeah, everybody can bitch about Lars, but he actually is giving the credit. And he's doing exactly, he's walking his talk. Yeah. You know? He could have easily ripped them off or whatever. No. And Brian told me, he goes, I live off of those royalty checks to this day. That's nice. That's cool. You know? So, hey, you got to give credit where it's credit. And he was right about Napster. Everybody gave Lars shit, but he was right about Napster. You know?

18:08 Maybe people should start listening to the people that sound like assholes. Yeah. Yeah, see, y'all listen to that. See what he's saying? Y'all listen to people that are assholes. So what's your warm-up vocal song? Oh, is it calling all the assholes in the room? From Volbeat. I love that song. Okay, unpopular opinion. I don't like their voice. You don't like their what? The voice. The vocals. Really? Yeah. I think it's cool. That's what's cool about music. Exactly. And the point is, you don't have to like everything just because it's in the genre you like. And you don't have to dislike things that are not in your genre.

18:51 But you've got to like some of the lyrics, though. Like, calling all the assholes. I can't do it like you. Calling all the assholes in the room. Okay, you ready for my favorite lyric? What's that? Of all time. Okay. I'll say the lyric. You tell me the band name. Last band failed. Okay? I can't drown my demons. They know how to swim. I can't drown my demons. They know how to swim. It's a song that got TikTok famous recently. That's an older song. Not like older, like 80s older, but all of a sudden it became like big again. I think I'll have to give you some more hints.

19:40 We definitely need some hints, but those are deep. You'll probably, if you can feel my heart, you might figure it out. That was a very strong hint. I barely heard it. Can you feel my heart? No, I don't know what it is. It's the band Bring Me to Horizon. Do you know that band? No, no. I didn't think so, or else you wouldn't know. So... Go check out that song, Can You Feel My Heart, by Bring Me The Horizon. You think that lyric, Steve, the lyric in the whole thing, Steve, he wrote it in rehab. Nice. Nice.

20:20 Nice. And there they are, the troublemakers of all troublemakers. Are they the Thunder from Down Under with Scuba Steve? Oh, no. Oh, no, it's the troublemakers. It's the troublemakers. It's Scuba. Hey. Hey, mate! Hey, mate! Oi! Oi! Oi, oi, oi! Oi, oi! I just noticed that the troublemakers of all troublemakers of all time just walked into the media tent. You can say whatever the fuck you want, you fuck. Fuck yeah! What do you.

21:06 Want me to do with this microphone? Hold on, hold on. How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and an English person? Say it one more time. How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and an English person? That's true. Aussie and English. How can you tell the difference between an Aussie and an English person? I think their accent's a little bit more, like in the U.S., more southern, like more brash. It's not high. It's not high. I was going to say they're more forthright with their cursing. They're cursing. Oh, yeah. Well, it depends on what part of London you're in. I think there are more drunks, too, which says a lot because the U.K. people are drunks. But I don't know.

21:52 Every Aussie band I've ever met, they're out of control. Airborne. They're, like, drunk 24-7. They make Snakebite Whiskey look like they're sober. They take so many drugs, you get bit by so much shit, it kills you over there. Exactly everything can freaking. Kill you man alcohol the anti-venom yeah exactly exactly freshly brewed at the house. Especially so if you get stung by a jellyfish in australia it works better to pee on the sting if you drank a lot of beer. See there's a reason they drink that much see. There you go so what else do you want to tell the listeners about your.

22:32 Band So I think we're going more harder. Like we have, we do lighter, like more pop punk. We do punk, but we're doing a little bit harder. So we have like a take on a hardcore punk song coming out, Four on the Floor. And then our last song, So Sick. A fun punk song, you know, So Sick, you know. We just played it last night. It just came out on Monday, you know. It was a good song. So Sick was cool. I love it. It was fucking sick. And that song. Everybody loves to say that. It's so sick. Yeah, it was. Thanks. That song, I think all of us can relate. Everybody's had a narcissist in your life or somebody that just like, just, if you know, you know.

23:18 So I always say, dedicate this one to that special someone. You know what I love is the narcissists that think the other people that they're being narcissists to are the narcissists. Exactly. Exactly. I see that happen often. It's like Joe Walsh said, you know, everybody else has changed. That's still the same. Exactly. There you go. Tell everybody on there, reach out to you, connect on social media, all that good stuff. On batallison.com and on Spotify, Amazon Music, Instagram, Facebook. If you go to batallison.com, it'll list everything where we're at and you can find us. We put QR codes out also. It should be on there. Hit the QR code, it'll take you straight to the platforms.

24:01 Nice. And interviews and whatever else. And songs coming out. Everything that's going on. And we have, so I'll just tell you a little story about Mary. I had a bad cold. Well, and it, I got rid of it really quick, but my voice was gone for like a month and a half. And we were writing album number three, which is what, that's going to be part of album number three. And so I told him, I just need to sing deep. I just need to sing deep. I still need to sing, you know. And he, so what did you say? About the new song, Mary? Uh-huh. I said, we'll make it. And he said something like, well, why don't you just say Mary had a little lamb or something like that? And I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. And he was like, don't do it. Give me five minutes. I was like, hold on.

24:42 And I was like, okay, ready? And we did it. And he's like, okay, I like it. Yeah, I liked it too. Do it. We wrote that in like, I think under 20 minutes. Do it right now. It was one of the, Kind of set the mood for this song. We were sitting there in the garage, it's hot as hell, you know, writing songs. And she was writing this song, and I was like, what's the next one going to be? Mary Had a Little F * * * ing Lamb? She goes, yeah, maybe. Hold on. And the next thing I knew, we had Mary Had a Little F * * * ing Lamb. Nice. And it ended up being a song about addiction. About like, you start with social media, and Mary got... continued her path through. That's like a parody between Mary Had a Little M, you know, and then a good girl, you know, going bad, you know, trying to do all the right things in life but can't make it.

25:29 Yeah. So we started turning it down. Okay, I got to pawn this, now I got to sell this, now I got to sell that, and I'm into this. And then before you know it, you know, you're on the dark side. I'm the dark side. She followed Little Bo Peep's path. Oh. So a fun part of that is at the end. They might all be in the campground. Yeah. So at the end of the song, there's a solo. It's kind of like... She sounds like she's on drugs, you know? And then at the very end, it does... And I saw a lamb running away, like, later! Nice. I love it. I love it. So the cool thing about our songwriting... They'll. Make me do the lyrics, the bass, like put that all together and like what you want it to be. And then they build their part. But I love it when we get to do it all together, which is rare because of time. So that day we were like, happened to be like, all right.

26:15 I think we were all frustrated that day about different things. And it's like, it's Tuesday. We're writing. Get your ass over here. And like, that's our regular thing is Tuesday. And so we're like, okay, what are we doing? And like I said, it's hot. It's hot. We were dying out there. I was like, hold on. So it was Mary had a little fucking lamb, little fucking lamb, a little fucking lamb. Yeah. Nice. But the part that's missing. So we started playing it live. Well, we recorded it. We started playing it live. And then after it came out, so we had David McGilvery recording for us. He's working with Kingdom Collapse. So he's helping us go heavier on. The recording, engineering, mixing, mastering. Nice. And so afterwards we recorded it and I was with David and I was like, man, it's missing something.

26:59 And then we came up with the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he hadn't heard it yet. I recorded it like that. And then like, we got to listen to it. He processed it. And the next time we played it live, he did the coolest thing. And I'm like, I want that on the recording. So now we go the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, yes. And I love it. And I'm like, damn it. It's not on the recording. Yeah. That sounds a little Hetfield there. Nice. We had a group of them singing. It sounds like Hetfield. Yeah. You're a doppelganger. Yeah. But one thing I want to say to the bands out there, you're getting together, you're rocking out, you're fed up with each other, you're ready to call it quits, throw the guitar on the ground and walk away. Don't.

27:46 Do what we do. Take that energy and put it back into the band. Say, if you're mad about something, what are you mad about? This is bullshit, I don't like this. Let's put on music. Let's get it out. You know, and we do that. And then we get to do it and we like it and we. Go, hey. Don't bitch about it. Do it. Now you're back on track because you took a negative and you made a positive. I love that because I'm also a motivational speaker. So, yeah, don't bitch about it. Just do it. Exactly. We're all musicians. We all got egos. You know what I mean? Yeah. Put them on the table, man. Figure them out where they're at and let's write a song about it. Roll the dice. And who wins? Who's getting what part? It'll come out good in the end. You know what I mean? It's better than walking away and talking shit about each other. No doubt. No doubt. That's the way it should be.

28:28 We have good debates. We have good debates. We literally battle it out. Because one person will want it a little bit lighter, one person will want it a little heavier, one person will want it more rock or more metal. There's three of us, man. And this one wanted it just right. Yeah, exactly. That's why there's another fourth member in case somebody's wondering. We already got three egos, man. We can't handle another one. I know, right? I don't even know how a band like Slipknot can exist where you've got nine people. Exactly. That's why Mustaine couldn't stay in Metallica. There would be too many egos between him, Lars, and James. Like, Kirk doesn't really have the ego, so he fits in perfectly.

29:12 James and Lars can be in charge, and he's good with it. Yeah. Mustaine never would have worked out with that. Nah. And he's still upset he couldn't upset it. Nah, I can't talk. He's still upset he couldn't come to terms with it, you know? I don't think he still hasn't come to terms with it. That's why he put Ride the Lightning on the final album. Oh, yeah. That's the way I look at it. That was his last... you know. Later. Fuck you. Probably right. Anything else we missed? We've got another song coming out. We're recording album number three. We took a little bit longer on this one to take our time, which isn't our style. We just tried something different. It's coming out.

30:03 We've got the songs ready to go. They're going to be coming out one at a time gradually. Then we'll put the album out. Nice. We appreciate y'all if you go on Spotify or any platform and hit like. Let everybody know. Out there, share the music. Because people who don't know us, when they hear the music, they kind of like it. They come to the show and they fucking love us. I've seen some people go, oh my God, I heard your song, it's cool. But I saw you live and I was like, you're so much better. That's what it's about. That's what it's about right there. Everybody makes mistakes. And if you make a mistake on stage, don't worry about it. Just keep going. Everyone does it. I've seen Kirk Hammond. He started a whole song off wrong. Yeah, it's the audience. Hold on. Can I start that over? So everyone does it. That's live music, man.

30:43 Exactly. If there aren't any mistakes, man, somebody's got to hit pause on the recorder in the back. Yeah, exactly. Can you hit that pause button again? I did it twice. No kidding. But the point is, if you want it perfect, then go buy our CD. We appreciate that. Exactly. Or our platform. Buy it. We want you to buy it. But come check us out, too. Yeah, we want you to come to our shows. Like, we don't buy it, and we like to hang out with the fans. Like, we love to hang out with the fans and meet. We like making new friends. So, like, last night, we had a good crowd last night dancing around, singing to Mary, the hi-yi-yi part, which. Is so cool. And then coming in today in Rock, Oklahoma, a couple of people stopped me that were there last night. Like, man, it was a good set. I was like, awesome. Thank you. What a great feeling to have that happen.

31:25 Good fans. I mean, good people here. Good fans. I mean. I know. I know you're trying to go get some more interviews coming up. But I just want to say we had a guest drummer last night. Our drummer couldn't make it, unfortunately. And so we sat in just learning songs that day. You know? So at the end, one of the guys told me, you know, do another one. One more time. One more time. Like, we can't. Some songs he knows. Right? And he did a pretty good job. He did. He did a real good job for the same day, really. You know, like four hours. Let me listen to the songs. Okay. Exactly. Great job, Brian. Appreciate it. So we borrowed Nikolai's drummer. So we were on a little mini tour with them. And so I said, hey, man, Billy, can you help us out tonight? Or I asked him, I think, the day before. And he's like, okay, let me think about it.

32:06 He's like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to do it. We're going to do it. We'll figure it out. Nice. And you did it. So I love it. I love you guys. Oh, we love you, Pipe Man. Thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man, because you guys fucking rock. You fucking rock too, brother. Yes, sir. Thank you for listening to The Adventures of Pikeman on W4CY Radio.