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Sept. 7, 2026

Trust, Teamwork, and Touring: Autumn Kings’ Inspiring Conversation with Pipeman

Trust, Teamwork, and Touring: Autumn Kings’ Inspiring Conversation with Pipeman

In this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with Joe and Jake from Autumn Kings at Rocklahoma to discuss their journey as a band, overcoming road challenges, creating positive and motivational music, and the importance of supportive relationships. The conversation features inspiring stories from touring, the creative genesis behind new music, reflections on resilience, and a celebration of kindness encountered along the way.

Main Topics Covered

  • Touring with Hollywood Undead and Fame on Fire
  • The “Ernie” story: A breakdown, a stranger’s kindness, and national news
  • Positivity and resilience: Perspective in the face of adversity
  • Building a supportive creative team and personal relationships
  • New music releases and upcoming tours
  • Reflections on the role of music in uniting people and creating community
Key Discussions & Stories1. Touring Memories & Collaborations
  • Touring experiences with bands like Fame on Fire, Set It Off, and Hollywood Undead (01:15).
  • Hollywood Undead’s Jordan Terrell (Charlie Scene) repeatedly offered support, eventually sparking the co-writing of Autumn Kings’ song “Gone, Gone, Gone” (02:18).
  • The organic way creative opportunities arise during tours was emphasized.
2. The “Ernie” Story – Roadside Kindness
  • During Rock Fest in Wisconsin, Autumn Kings’ van broke down, leaving them stranded without transit for their next festival (03:40).
  • After failed attempts to find help, a stranger named Ernie offered his brand-new Ford Explorer so the band could make it to the next show, asking only for a t-shirt for his wife in return (05:07).
  • This act of kindness became national news and inspired the band to print “Be Like Ernie” shirts (07:12).
  • The story reinforced faith in humanity and the importance of social trust within the music community (06:09).
3. Overcoming Challenges & Staying Positive
  • Stories of technical setbacks (air conditioning failures, overheated laptops on stage) at Rocklahoma and how the band creatively handled them (07:46).
  • Pipeman draws parallels between band life and motivational speaking, discussing the importance of maintaining a positive mindset and focusing on solutions rather than problems (08:47).
  • The idea that hardship often leads to the best stories and strongest memories (10:58).
  • Comparisons to military service to maintain perspective on “tough” situations (11:21).
4. Relationships & Support Systems
  • The significance of finding partners who understand and support a life on tour (17:33), drawing on personal examples of supportive spouses and the pitfalls of unhealthy relationships.
  • Notable comparison to the iconic “Adrian” scene from Rocky II as a metaphor for having supportive partners (20:23).
  • Discussion of loyalty, trust, and the calming effect of being in strong, supportive relationships (21:06).
5. Music as Therapy & Unifying Force
  • The band’s commitment to spreading positivity through music, and the idea that music is often cheaper and more effective than therapy (15:39).
  • The dream of a global music festival dedicated to positivity and unity, minus political leaders (15:54).
Notable Quotes
  • "Sometimes magic just happens. Lightning in a bottle." (03:18)
  • "All thanks to the kindness of a stranger... Definitely restored our faith in humanity." (06:04)
  • "Positivity doesn't have to mean you're delusional... It's just grounded optimism." (09:32)
  • "It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll." — referencing AC/DC (08:27)
  • "I used to think any woman would be a distraction to the mission. Turns out, when you find the right person, she can serve as jet fuel..." (19:39)
  • "We just have a massive music festival that the whole world is required to attend, except the political leaders. They're banned." (15:54)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Official Website & Merch:
    autumnkings.com – Buy merch, including “Be Like Ernie” shirts and the new album (17:17)
  • Social Media:
    Encouraged to follow and share Autumn Kings’ music and updates with friends and family (17:20)
  • Upcoming Tours:
    Autumn Kings on tour with Archers, Black Veil Brides, Skillet, and Escape the Fate this season (17:23)
  • New Album & Vinyl:
    Epiphany release on September 18; available on vinyl (24:02)
Additional Highlights
  • Remarks on performing at major festivals: Rock Fest, Upheaval, Rocklahoma, Rock Rally, and participating in a future lineup of Danny Wimmer festivals (22:24).
  • Reflections on life perspectives, gratitude, and the value of shared adventure, both on the road and back at home.
  • Repeated encouragement to seek and nurture supportive relationships, both professional and personal.
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This is Pipe Man here on the Adventures of Pipe

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Man W4CY radio, and I'm here with.

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Joe and Jake.

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Autumn Kings. Didn't even rehearse that one.

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That's why I do that. I like it better when

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the artist says it. You know, they can say it cooler,

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their way.

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Was that cooler?

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I don't know if that was cooler. That was kind

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of cooler. We're cool.

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Just take it. I know we've never been told that, though.

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I just want to be cool.

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It wasn't as cool as your Rock, Lahoma comment. Oh, okay.

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So tell the listeners your Rock, Lahoma comment before this.

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What did I say? Are you ready to rock and roll? Oh,

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I'm ready to Rock, Lahoma.

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Yeah, there you go. See what we did there, everybody listening?

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Pretty sick, right?

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I just say so much stuff.

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I have no idea what I'm saying.

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I know, right?

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That's your greatest asset. Joe, anytime something wrong happens when

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we're on tour, I'm like, dude, remember when that happened yesterday?

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He's like, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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I remember everything. I'm here right now.

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I don't remember that. That's all that matters. You're here now.

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Living in the moment.

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So it is funny that one of the bands you've

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actually toured with, I know the mother of one of

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the band members because they live near me.

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It's got to be J-Dawg, Hollywood Undead.

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Nope, but I know all of Hollywood Undead. I love them.

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Not only their music, but they're the coolest fucking dudes.

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Yeah, they're so cool.

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But go lower down the ladder.

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They live here?

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No, Florida. That's an easy one.

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Fame on fire or set it off?

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There it is.

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Fame on fire?

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Fame on fire.

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Alex or Brian?

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Fuck, I can't even remember right now.

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Yeah, one of them. Fame on fire, boys. Okay.

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Oh, yeah.

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Throwback to last year. We went out with them in

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Vana and set it off. It was a great tour, actually.

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That was our biggest tour to date at that time.

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Really? See, that's pretty cool.

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Wild fans, yeah.

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What was it like going with Hollywood Undead, though? Because

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they're some fun fuckers.

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Dude, they know how to put on a show.

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I think that was one of the first times Jake

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we need to step up our stage presence a little

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bit because they know how to put on a show.

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It's always fun with them. Right? So, two things. They're

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very entertaining, but we only did three shows with them. So,

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it wasn't a full tour, although I would love to

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do a full tour. But what happened... is Charlie Seen,

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Jordan Terrell, talked to us every night backstage after our set,

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and he's like, you guys rock, good set. It's one

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of those nice platitudes that you say to other musicians,

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but you don't always know if it's genuine. But he

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kept saying it every night, and on the third night,

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he's like, first of all, I want shirts for my kids,

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and second of all, we should write together. I'm like, okay,

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this is getting serious now. We still had two and

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a half months of touring out on the road doing

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other tours. He was home. As we were out in

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the UK in October last year, 2025, he sends over

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an idea of this heavy riff, this melody, and this

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idea called Gone, Gone, Gone. It was just a scat.

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He had no words other than Gone, Gone, Gone. We

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took it while we were on tour, riding in vans

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with our acoustic guitars, structured out the rest of the song,

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put it together. Then we had two days off tour.

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the entire song. And that's how Gone was written, was

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from Tour of Hollywood Undead.

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That is cool.

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Making the connections out on the road. Sometimes magic just happens.

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Lightning in a bottle.

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That's the way it is, though, right? Like, you can't

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plan that shit.

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You really can't plan it, man. It's so organic how

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that happened.

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Just like you can't plan the negative shit that can

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turn into positive shit. Like, some of the things you've

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had to go through to get to Rock, Lahoma recently.

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Yeah, that's right. I feel like I know where you're

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taking this. Well, you see, we took a van that

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doesn't look much different than that van right there. GMC

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Savannah 3500 15-passenger van. And we were doing Kadat Wisconsin

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Rock Fest right back in July. And we played. It

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was an early afternoon set. It was on a Friday.

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And we leave the festival because the next day we

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had to go to Grand Rapids, which is eight, nine

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hours away from Kadat.

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It's 4, 4.30 p.m.

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We're driving on the highway. All of a sudden, we hear.

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Something's going on in the van I wanted to keep

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driving The guy's like You gotta stop And then It

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defaulted to 15 miles an hour You couldn't go past

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15 So we get off On the side of the

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highway Now remember Friday In a small town Nobody's open

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Nobody's available I called 16 mechanics Nobody could come except

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one 25-year-old dude. He's like, yeah, I'll come. I'll see

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what's up. But I'll be like an hour away. Okay, okay.

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And as we're sitting there twiddling our thumbs on the highway,

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a tall, big, buff American man named Ernie, 60 years

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old or so, pulls over and he just comes up

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to us. We don't know him. He doesn't know us.

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He's like, you guys look like you need help. You

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need some help? We're like, well, we got a mechanic

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on the way, but maybe we can take your number

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just in case. Okay, we exchange numbers. He gets on

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his merry way. Mechanic comes an hour later. Guys, I

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can't do anything with this. I got to bring it

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to the shop to really see what's up.

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Okay.

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We limp our way to the shop. It's 10 minutes away.

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End up taking an hour because we're only going 15

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miles an hour.

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Terrible, right?

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Takes two hours, diagnoses it. Yo, we're going to need

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this for like at least a few days. Your van's

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not going to work.

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Typical small town.

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Typical small town. What do we do now? We're in

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the middle of nowhere. There's no airport around. There's no

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U-Haul around. How are we going to get to the

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festival tomorrow? I call up Ernie.

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Hey, Ernie.

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I think we do need your help. He pauses for

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three seconds. He goes... guys don't want to just take

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my car. We're like, dude, you don't know us. We

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don't know you. Do you want a security deposit so

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that you know we're not going to trash it? No, no, no.

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My wife's actually heard your music. She's a big fan.

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Just get her a 2XL shirt and we'll call it even, okay?

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I'm like... Dude, you are a legend. So we end

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up going through all the logistics. He brings the van

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to us. Three guys fit in there. Then we had

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to rent a U-Haul to put all our equipment in.

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Other three guys go there. We drive overnight. Everyone's pounding

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back caffeine. I thought I was high as a kite

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on cocaine because I hadn't had coffee in a while.

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We get to upheaval the next day in Michigan. And

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when you don't sleep, your voice gets really hoarse and sore.

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So we thought we were going to suck, right? Dude,

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we put on like the best show of our entire

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career without exaggeration. Fans moshing, everyone crowd surfing. And all

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thanks to the kindness of a stranger where in this

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day and age, right? When everyone's negative, the news is

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provoking you with fear and anger. You got a great

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stranger who put his trust in this fellow man. It was,

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by the way, a brand new Red Ford Explorer. He

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bought it three days ago. And we took it. We

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ran with it. It ended up turning into a national

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news story. CBS covered it. A ton of radio stations

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picked it up. So definitely restored our faith in humanity.

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And that's why we're here.

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I was going to say, you just restored my faith

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in humanity. I'm glad. Because fucking human beings are assholes.

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So now you've restored my faith that there's some that aren't.

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Nowadays and it's great to have that social trust and

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fabric so that when all the external things happen in

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the world that you truly can't control that you're outraged

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at when you can trust strangers like i think that's

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what creates a cohesive functioning society right and no doubt

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ernie reminded us of that be like ernie everybody.

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Be like ernie for sure we need him To run

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for president or something. Yes.

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Please. I'd vote for him. At least council.

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At least city council. Something.

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You know?

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Something.

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For sure. We actually have Be Like Ernie shirts getting

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printed next week. We made a deal with our team.

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We're like, if Gone hits top five on the charts,

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which it just did on Billboard yesterday. We're making Be

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Like Ernie shirts and putting them out. So we're putting

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out hashtag Be Like Ernie with the Midwest logo, and

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we're selling them on our store.

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Oh, I love that.

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Shout out, Ernie.

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So they have to buy that shirt or they can't

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listen to my show anymore.

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That's true.

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That's the law. Non-negotiable.

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Exactly. Exactly. Oh, my God. And then I think I

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heard something that even here at Rock, La Jolla, now

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your air is not working or something. Somebody said that.

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Who told you that?

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Yeah, the air in the back, the blower's kind of

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dying on us, so we've got to get a mechanic

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to come meet us later tonight after we go, because

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So, yeah. There's that. And what's also funny is our

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laptops that we use to run our shows, they were

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the crew here to get ice bags covered with a

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towel and put the laptop on it so that it

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could cool down. And it really worked well. But yeah,

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this band is just riddled with challenges and problems, and

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that's part of life. I almost forgot about that until

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you mentioned it, because so much BS happens.

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I know, right?

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You kind of forget to keep track. Listen, CDC said it.

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It's a long way to the top if you want

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to rock and roll.

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No doubt. Facts. No doubt. And what I really love

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about all this, too, is I know a lot of

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what you write about, a lot of what you're all

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about is positive things. motivational stuff I'm also a motivational

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speaker not just a radio personality so that part I

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really loved about you so like your attitude towards these

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things because you can't control what happens you can only

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control your attitude towards it I was just having this

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something going on and I'm like as long as you're

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in that mind space things are not going to change

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you know you have to put the energy and attract

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the energy out there and Look, look at what happened

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with you guys. You could have been like, oh my God,

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fuck it. We're not going up people. You know, like

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people do that. Like Tony Robbins says, they should have

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all over themselves, you know? And you guys like, this

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is what happens. This is the magic that happens when

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you have. The positive attitude.

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Yeah, absolutely. And positivity doesn't have to mean you're delusional

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or fantasizing. It's just grounded optimism. And when the van

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broke down, I swear, like, hand of God in my

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dead grandfather's grave, nobody's heartbeat, like, went up one pace,

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you know?

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I really think we started laughing at just the situation. And,

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you know, and that kind of goes back to even

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just finding other like-minded people and building a community of, like, positivity.

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So that's what we're always trying to do with our

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music and and our.

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Messaging i i love that because we need that in

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the world more than ever now like i can't believe

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everybody's getting pumped with all this negative shit yeah like.

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It's a drug man our bass player sky says this

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he thinks that in 30 to 40 years the social

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media scrolling the outrage at every new headline is going

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to prove to be as bad for the brain as

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smoking cigarettes is when people didn't know how bad cigarettes

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were We think scrolling is going to be that. So

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you've got to live.

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In the real world. They already say it's an addiction,

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and it really is. And it's done on purpose. So

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we are addicted to it.

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All an algorithm.

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Oh, 100%. Oh, yeah.

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And so when you're out with the boys in a van,

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you're making memories. It's a great story to tell your

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grandkids one day.

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This is way better than being on a phone.

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Like I'll always, in interviews, which I don't even have

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to do this time, is I'll ask, One story, good

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or bad, in your whole musical career, what would you

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talk about when you're like 80? Those stories are what

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really you look back on and say, wow. Those are

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the things you really remember more than anything.

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It's so true.

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You always remember kind of the hard or the quote-unquote

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bad times. But we look back on them fondly, to

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be honest. Like that situation, I mean, we talk about

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it all the time, even in the van amongst ourselves,

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like how crazy of a situation that was. But just

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kind of keep moving forward.

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I draw a lot of analogy to military and vets

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who I have deep respect and appreciation for. And so

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when people ask, how did you survive on stage today?

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I always say, I'm like, men and women went to

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Iraq and fought with 10 times the layers on them

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with a backpack. And we're sitting here worried about a stage.

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So I put it in perspective and there's, there is

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something about it.

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I love that.

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Right.

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You know, what's funny about that is we are all

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bitching how high it is. I do ask cars. Man,

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how do you even do that? And I know the answer,

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but it's like, you know, I want listeners to know

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how hard it is to get up there and perform

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in this heat. My son's been in the army for

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20 years.

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Nice.

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He is psyops. He jumps out of an airplane into Somalia.

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They say, we'll see you in six months. You get caught,

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we don't know you. And there, he said, it's like

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130 degrees every day. Oh my gosh. And you got

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the uniform on, the ruck pack, and all that shit.

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So to your point, I always say, somebody always has

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it worse.

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Oh, yeah. And, you know, they say you're not supposed

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to say that because it invalidates what someone's going through.

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But for us, don't be a word that rhymes with wussy. Like,

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to me, that is a controversial take here. But that's

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a form of love in the van when things really

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do suck. And if you can train your brain like

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we do to take this ironic pleasure in things sucking,

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it becomes a lot happier and more fun. So we

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just say that way.

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Listen, to me, it's a positive to say that because...

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you know, get rid of the victim mentality. There's some

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kids out there in some country eating dirt cookies and

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that's all they have to eat. That's what I focus on.

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And we're complaining about being jet lagged on a plane

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coming back from Singapore.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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No, we're good. We're choosing to be here. It's fine.

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Exactly. Exactly. And, and that's the thing too, like even

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this kind of life, like I do media coverage at

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festivals all over the US, UK, Europe, uh, Canada. And, uh,

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Some people are like, how do you even do that?

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And my answer is, how do I not?

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Exactly.

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Like, even with all the brutality of doing this, like,

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we all know what this life is like. It's what

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we get out of it. Like, I can't even live

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without it. You know, it's like that's why we go

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home after a tour or something, and you're like, you

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get in that come down mode, like you just came

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down off a high, and you get in that little

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bit of like, oh my god, I need to get

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back out there again.

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Totally. It's like even in the example of your son. Yeah,

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he's going out there. I'm sure he's patriotic out there

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to keep everybody safe. But I'm sure there's a part

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of his psyche that thinks this is an adventure. Like

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this is something I'm going to go out and actually

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back on and have a blast doing, right? And every show,

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like we're going out 39 shows. This is our first

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of 39. Nice. You get to see the whole country.

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Like who gets to do that?

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I know, right?

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It's like a vacation.

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Exactly.

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Best job in the world, I always say.

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You can always find a positive in every situation no

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matter what it is. And like in your situation, what happened,

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one of my biggest things I teach is that people

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spend so much energy and so much time worrying about

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things that may or may not ever happen. And I

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was just telling my daughter the other day, instead of

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worrying about this and this, let's just come up with

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a solution. That's my thing. Come up with, and I said,

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when you're in that mode, you can't come up with

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a solution. You need to be like, you guys acted like,

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you know, like It's not a big deal. We'll figure

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it out. Things will work out. And they usually do.

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You could have taken another round like, oh, my God,

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we will never make it to upheaval. We won't get

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invited to a festival ever again because we didn't show up.

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You could go down so many rabbit holes.

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That's a contagious attitude, too, that spreads through the team quickly.

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if you got a negative Nelly like that.

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No doubt.

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We're very careful. We've curated an awesome team because we

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watch for that, especially when you're spending this much time

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together because everyone, you become brothers and everyone's your roommates. Exactly.

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So you've got to be on.

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The same wavelength of thinking.

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And then when you're creating music, music's the best therapy

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there is, in my opinion.

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Absolutely.

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Well, then, if it's the best therapy there is, there

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should be some positivity in that message of that song.

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Even for bad things.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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You know, like.

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Yeah, and that's what's great about music is it unifies

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people and people find purpose for their pain and through

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their pain they come together and it really is cheaper

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and maybe more effective, arguably, than going to therapy.

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I think so. Like, I have this idea to cure

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all the world problems. You know what it is? We

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just have a massive music festival that the whole world

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is required to attend. Except the political leaders. They're banned.

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Security is told not to let them in at all.

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Put the big X through. If they have a badge,

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put an X through it. They wear a suit. Don't

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come in. Exactly. And, you know, just put everybody in

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a mosh pit. We'll all work it out and hug

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in the end. the world's problems will be solved.

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I think you're onto something, brother.

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I know, right? Let's make it happen. Listen, we're all

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being brainwashed by all these fucking idiots in the world.

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It's not just one. It's a lot of them. Oldest

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trick in the book, divide and conquer.

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Oh, yeah. Demagoguery.

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You never see that at a place like Rock, Oklahoma.

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Nope.

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It doesn't matter where you're from, what walk of life

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or whatever. Listen, I'm originally from New York and New Jersey.

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Your concept being from there originally is, the fuck am

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I doing in Oklahoma? But I've been doing Rock, Rock,

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Oklahoma for a lot of years. And some of the

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nicest people that are the greatest friends of mine I've

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met here. In fact, same thing. You guys have probably

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heard stuff like this. I have a brother who says

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to me, You're never going to find a woman traveling

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all over the world going to festivals. I'm like, obviously,

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you've never done it.

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Oh, yeah. Very true. I'm sure as a single guy,

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you're going to have no problem.

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I know, right? And the viewpoint is, by a lot

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of people, is, well, you have to stay in this

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one place. I had somebody say it to me recently.

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I'm like, or I meet somebody that lives a life

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the same way I do. and then you're on the

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same page.

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Yeah, that's exactly it. It's funny you say that. I

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go through the same thing. I met my wife four

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and a half years ago, and we were on the

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same wavelength about travel, sacrificing to pursue something bigger. She

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was a D1 athlete at University of Wyoming, soccer player. Nice. Yeah.

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And so she understood fundamentally what it meant to be

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in a band and be gone. And I'm never hearing

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things from her like, are you okay? I haven't heard

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from you in two hours. There's none of that. It's

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get out there and crush it. You got one life

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to live.

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See, I love that.

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She's on the same page. She goes and travels as

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a content creator, does marketing for hotels and different brands.

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And she was just in Thailand last week.

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And so.

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You've got to find... It's hard to... I mean, I

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speak for myself. I don't know about you, Joe. But

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for me, it's very hard to find the right woman

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who gets this.

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It is.

448
00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.259
And when you do, you cherish that.

449
00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:21.930
I've even dated band members that they didn't get it. Like,

450
00:18:21.950 --> 00:18:25.660
I thought it was weird. Like, okay... You see I'm

451
00:18:25.700 --> 00:18:29.000
a radio personality. Don't freak out because I'm talking to

452
00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.099
some girl because that's my job.

453
00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:32.160
That's right.

454
00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:35.339
And you would think somebody in a band wouldn't think

455
00:18:35.380 --> 00:18:38.519
that way. And I've had that experience too. So it

456
00:18:38.619 --> 00:18:41.960
is very difficult. But I think it's worth it because

457
00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.900
otherwise what happens is you meet somebody, you fall in love.

458
00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.339
Next thing you know, you're not doing this stuff anymore

459
00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.640
because they don't want to go. They don't want you

460
00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.230
to go. And you make that ultimate sacrifice yourself. And eventually,

461
00:18:55.630 --> 00:18:57.450
you're really unhappy that you did.

462
00:18:57.650 --> 00:19:00.190
We've had past band members that that's happened to them.

463
00:19:01.089 --> 00:19:01.650
You know what?

464
00:19:02.609 --> 00:19:05.029
It's unfortunate, but yeah, that is a path that some

465
00:19:05.049 --> 00:19:05.529
people take.

466
00:19:05.869 --> 00:19:07.990
Oh man, it's a real thing. The power of the

467
00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:11.650
woman that you're with can fundamentally change the arc of

468
00:19:11.690 --> 00:19:15.839
your life. Like Joe said, we've seen that. Choose wisely,

469
00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:16.680
single men out there.

470
00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:20.259
Yeah, and I talk about it a lot because it's like,

471
00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:27.720
Most of the biggest successes in life had the right

472
00:19:27.779 --> 00:19:29.039
kind of woman behind them.

473
00:19:29.059 --> 00:19:30.369
Absolutely right.

474
00:19:31.089 --> 00:19:35.230
Because that gives you the motivation and the feeling. Whereas

475
00:19:35.289 --> 00:19:37.750
if you have the wrong person, it makes you want

476
00:19:37.769 --> 00:19:38.730
to do nothing.

477
00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:41.150
Dude, I used to think when we started the band,

478
00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:43.609
I was 18, you were 20. I thought that any

479
00:19:43.670 --> 00:19:46.150
woman would be a distraction to the mission. This idea

480
00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.109
that I have to give some time away from the

481
00:19:48.130 --> 00:19:51.660
band to somebody else, that's gonna to hijack the focus.

482
00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.160
Turns out, how wrong I was, when you find the

483
00:19:54.220 --> 00:19:56.839
right person, she can serve as jet fuel and actually

484
00:19:56.859 --> 00:19:58.940
give you an extra 20 to 30% that you didn't

485
00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.390
even know you had in you to propel you to

486
00:20:01.470 --> 00:20:01.910
new heights.

487
00:20:02.150 --> 00:20:04.490
So like, I got chills. I loved what you said

488
00:20:04.529 --> 00:20:08.009
before about your wife. It's like, instead of being nudgy,

489
00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:11.289
it's like, Your biggest supporter.

490
00:20:11.410 --> 00:20:11.690
Yeah.

491
00:20:12.269 --> 00:20:16.759
My favorite movie scene ever in history has to do

492
00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:20.160
with that. And it's from Rocky II.

493
00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:21.960
It was from Rocky II?

494
00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.180
From Rocky II. Adrian.

495
00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:23.799
Yep.

496
00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:28.599
And when he's like, you don't want me messing with

497
00:20:28.660 --> 00:20:32.079
Creed no more. I won't do it. And she goes,

498
00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:35.579
I want you to do one thing for me. Come here.

499
00:20:36.700 --> 00:20:37.369
Win. Win.

500
00:20:37.549 --> 00:20:40.009
And then the music comes on. I'm getting chills now

501
00:20:40.069 --> 00:20:40.730
just thinking about it.

502
00:20:40.730 --> 00:20:41.619
I got chills because you sang it.

503
00:20:41.690 --> 00:20:41.970
I know.

504
00:20:42.609 --> 00:20:47.059
It's like, that's the word. Anybody that knows me, you

505
00:20:47.130 --> 00:20:50.559
ask my ex-wives. They'll tell you I've always said I'm

506
00:20:50.660 --> 00:20:51.960
looking for my Adrian.

507
00:20:51.980 --> 00:20:53.079
You're looking for your Adrian.

508
00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:57.029
Aren't we all? Right? It's the concept of it, you know?

509
00:20:57.309 --> 00:21:01.779
And it just... It just makes things so much easier

510
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:05.599
when you have somebody on your side that's your biggest cheerleader.

511
00:21:05.619 --> 00:21:09.240
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Absolutely. And then you, in turn, reciprocate.

512
00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.819
And some of these guys out there, I mean, they're

513
00:21:11.859 --> 00:21:14.240
not loyal to their girl. It's a problem. There has

514
00:21:14.289 --> 00:21:17.069
to be mutual trust when somebody's out on the road.

515
00:21:17.670 --> 00:21:19.670
For us, it actually makes world life a lot easier

516
00:21:19.710 --> 00:21:21.869
that I think we're pretty much all in relationships except

517
00:21:22.069 --> 00:21:25.230
maybe Sky right now. Sky is single, ladies. Great guy, too.

518
00:21:25.769 --> 00:21:26.250
Very good looking.

519
00:21:26.609 --> 00:21:29.150
And you need to hook up with them because then

520
00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:30.559
they can all be in relationships.

521
00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:32.200
Yeah, yeah, that's right. We need to get him a girl.

522
00:21:32.299 --> 00:21:33.119
We need to get him a girl.

523
00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.740
There you go. Cuff him up. I'm glad to hear

524
00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:40.259
that because that is true, too. You know, you're on

525
00:21:40.299 --> 00:21:43.460
the road. You're doing these things. It does also take

526
00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:48.920
a special woman that... is confident enough in themselves and

527
00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.519
how you feel about them that they're not going to

528
00:21:51.579 --> 00:21:52.119
be jealous.

529
00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:55.339
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I could go on and rant and

530
00:21:55.420 --> 00:21:58.500
rave about my lovely wife Delaney, but she's very self-confident,

531
00:21:58.619 --> 00:22:01.519
and that's huge. Self-confident and also humble.

532
00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.039
100%.

533
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:05.500
She texts me almost before every show, one show closer

534
00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.859
to arenas, one show closer to arenas. And I'm like,

535
00:22:08.380 --> 00:22:10.579
don't make me cry. I'm supposed to be tough.

536
00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:14.440
See, I love hearing that shit. And you are one

537
00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.900
show closer. Like, look at this.

538
00:22:16.250 --> 00:22:16.509
Yeah.

539
00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:22.990
Rock fest, upheaval. Rock, Oklahoma. What other festivals have you

540
00:22:23.029 --> 00:22:24.650
done recently or doing?

541
00:22:24.970 --> 00:22:30.170
Rock Rally in Wisconsin. Upheaval in Grand Rapids. Next year we're,

542
00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:34.079
fingers crossed, shortlist for a bunch of the Danny Wimmer festivals.

543
00:22:34.099 --> 00:22:36.160
I was going to say, I do all the Danny Wimmers.

544
00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:37.559
We need you at the Danny Wimmers.

545
00:22:37.660 --> 00:22:39.380
Oh, please, yes. Spread the word, man.

546
00:22:40.099 --> 00:22:43.079
We need you at some of the ones overseas, too.

547
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:43.880
That would be cool.

548
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.220
Yes, working on that also in Europe. Yep.

549
00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:49.500
Like, I just got back from Bloodstock and Wacken. Oh,

550
00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.369
my God. Wacken was insane. I couldn't even imagine it

551
00:22:52.390 --> 00:22:53.190
until I got there.

552
00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:53.970
Yeah.

553
00:22:54.349 --> 00:22:59.619
So I think your positivity, your music, and everything you

554
00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.759
got going for you That is all going to happen.

555
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.799
Thank you, brother. I thank you so much. I appreciate

556
00:23:04.849 --> 00:23:05.529
the kind words.

557
00:23:05.789 --> 00:23:08.609
Oh, my pleasure. That's awesome. Is there anything else you

558
00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:10.769
want to tell the listeners that we haven't covered already

559
00:23:10.789 --> 00:23:13.150
that you have coming up? Also, tell them how to

560
00:23:13.190 --> 00:23:16.339
reach on socials to your website and all that and

561
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:17.420
buy your fucking merch.

562
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.519
Buy our merch, autumnkings.com. Tell your kids, friends, mom, and dad.

563
00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:24.279
And we'll be out for the next two and a

564
00:23:24.299 --> 00:23:28.109
half months with Archers, Black Veil Brides, Skillet for a

565
00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:30.829
month and a half, and Escape the Fate. Childhood Us

566
00:23:30.910 --> 00:23:34.130
is just oozing with excitement. What a fucking tour. Oh, yeah.

567
00:23:35.650 --> 00:23:38.509
To even say it out loud, Skillet, Escape the Fate,

568
00:23:38.789 --> 00:23:40.309
Autumn Kings. Like what?

569
00:23:40.670 --> 00:23:40.990
Right?

570
00:23:41.069 --> 00:23:43.230
I used to stay in on Friday nights at 15

571
00:23:43.230 --> 00:23:44.579
and watch their music videos.

572
00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:48.160
Now we're first of three. And John's the nicest dude,

573
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.339
the nicest human.

574
00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:55.319
Yeah. Strong, tough, great songwriter, hard worker. So cool. And

575
00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:56.980
he found a great woman too, who happens to be

576
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:57.380
in the band.

577
00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:59.420
Exactly. That's great. Even better, right?

578
00:23:59.509 --> 00:23:59.740
Yeah.

579
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:02.349
Anything else you want to share with the listeners?

580
00:24:02.369 --> 00:24:05.789
And then we have our first album, record release album,

581
00:24:05.849 --> 00:24:08.490
coming out September 18th. We've got vinyl coming out.

582
00:24:08.509 --> 00:24:10.329
We're super excited. That one's called Epiphanies.

583
00:24:10.750 --> 00:24:13.559
Yeah. I love the name of that, by the way. Oh, thanks.

584
00:24:13.970 --> 00:24:15.890
When I saw that, I was like, that's the coolest

585
00:24:15.950 --> 00:24:16.470
fucking name.

586
00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:20.269
Yeah, it's those realizations in life when you feel like

587
00:24:20.289 --> 00:24:22.509
you got hit with a certain moment of wisdom. We

588
00:24:22.529 --> 00:24:25.089
try to take those nuggets and make that the tagline

589
00:24:25.109 --> 00:24:27.470
of each song on the album. So it's got a

590
00:24:27.509 --> 00:24:29.690
deeper meaning than just a cool sounding word.

591
00:24:30.109 --> 00:24:33.619
That's cool. Everybody will have to check it out. Well,

592
00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.359
you guys are badass. I'm glad you were here at Rock,

593
00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:39.000
Oklahoma and fared the heat wave.

594
00:24:39.410 --> 00:24:40.849
Yes, that's right. We're surviving.

595
00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:44.829
And lots of great things happen. I hope to see

596
00:24:44.849 --> 00:24:46.589
you next year at the Danny Wimmer Festival.

597
00:24:46.609 --> 00:24:47.069
Thank you, brother.

598
00:24:47.089 --> 00:24:47.369
Appreciate it.

599
00:24:47.509 --> 00:24:48.250
Thanks so much, dude.

600
00:24:48.890 --> 00:24:51.589
Hear that, Danny? Thanks for being on the Adventures of

601
00:24:51.609 --> 00:24:57.289
Pipe Man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of

602
00:24:57.430 --> 00:24:59.190
Pipe Man on W4CY radio.