July 28, 2026
Versus Me Performs at Inkcarceration 2026 at Shawshank Prison - PipemanRadio Interview
The conversation focused on the band Versus Me at the Inkcarceration Festival held at the historic Shawshank Prison. The episode explored the meaning behind their latest single, the unique festival setting, their experiences performing at the event, upcoming tour plans, and the band's personal dynamics as siblings. The discussion also delved into the evolving music industry, fan engagement, and the importance of supporting independent artists.Main Topics Covered
- The emotional depth of Versus Me's new single and its themes of loss and reconnecting with people still alive
- Unique atmosphere of the Incarceration Festival, held at Shawshank Prison
- Versus Me's festival performance experience and fan turnout
- Community response and local engagement with the festival
- The band's upcoming plans: new singles, studio time, and US tour
- Sibling dynamics within the band and personal insights
- Merch design, sales, and support from fans
- Aspirations for future international performances
- Festival culture and treatment of artists, specifically at Danny Wimmer Presents events
- Evolution of music styles and fan acceptance
- One concept discussed was the song's foundation on the emotional experience of losing someone who is still alive and questioning if paths will ever cross again (00:48).
- A key theme that emerged was grieving for living people and the emotional turmoil it creates.
- The discussion explored the surreal atmosphere of performing at an iconic, historic prison (01:23).
- Several points were raised, including the proximity to an active prison and joking about playing music for inmates like Johnny Cash (02:31).
- The tight-knit local community's tradition of camping on lawns to enjoy the festival was highlighted (03:05).
- The event's importance as a yearly highlight for residents added to the festival’s significance.
- Versus Me plans to hit the studio, release new singles in the fall, and embark on a US tour in September and October (04:59).
- The siblings shared personal anecdotes, including cutting each other's hair and the importance of presenting well on stage (05:45).
- Merchandise design is handled mainly by their guitarist, Dustin, who is a graphic designer (07:11).
- Buying merch and streaming music are both emphasized as vital ways fans can support the band directly (08:09).
- Aspirations to play arena shows and perform overseas, with specific interest in Germany, Sweden, and Japan due to enthusiastic music scenes and fan analytics (09:27).
- Evolving their musical style while maintaining connections with their original fan base was a recurring topic (14:17).
- The professionalism and artist-first approach of Danny Wimmer Presents festivals, especially their logistical organization and treatment of performers, was praised (12:14).
- Stress-free events allow bands to deliver their best performance, benefiting both artists and fans (13:15).
- “It's kind of like the emotional turmoil of losing somebody that's still alive and wondering if you're ever going to cross paths with them again.” (00:54)
- “Grieving somebody that's still alive.” (01:13)
- “You want to perfect your craft, but also you want to see what else you can do.” (14:21)
- “As an independent band... streaming the music does help. That does help.” (08:09)
- “Danny Wimmer Presents makes sure everybody's on the same page. You get here and everybody takes care of you.” (12:14)
- “Thank you very much for constantly supporting us—whether it be, like you said, out to the shows, streaming, literally all of it. We see it all.” (13:39)
- Versus Me’s official merchandise shop (no specific URL provided)
- Recommendation to stream the new single “Meet Again”
- Acknowledgment of notable international festivals: Wacken (Germany), Hellfest (France), Download Festival (UK)
- Direct engagement on the band’s social media channels
- Listen to Versus Me’s latest single, "Meet Again."
- Support the band by purchasing merch and streaming their music.
- Follow Versus Me on social media for band updates and direct interaction.
- Catch them live at upcoming shows and stay tuned for new releases this fall.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Avengerance pipe
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I like that James and Lee from from versus Me
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to be specific.
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And we meet again.
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Good seeing you again, my friend.
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Yes, yes, and and it's so appropriate because this month
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you're releasing a single this month.
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That is correct.
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Yes, Now tell me what was what this song means
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to you, guys.
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So this is kind of one of the deeper ones
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that we've released as of recently.
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It's kind of like.
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The emotional turmoil of uh, losing somebody that's still alive
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and wondering if you're ever gonna come cross paths with
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them again.
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So that is a trip because it happens to all
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of us, right Like we have those people.
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In our lives that we wondered the exact.
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Thing, grieving somebody that's still alive exactly.
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So how does it feel to be an incarceration at
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the Shawshank Prison.
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This is a wild it's a wild scenery.
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It kind of sets the tone for the day.
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But just you know, from the minute we pulled up,
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it's just kind of like takes a breath away and
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you're like, this is.
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Gonna be a crazy, chaotic day. The minute it starts.
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All the all the like videos we've seen in the prior,
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like in the past, I think all the like that
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in the background.
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It was pretty epic, you know, looking and stuff.
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So it was a cool little background to all the
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all the the main stages and stuff.
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So a perfect setting for a rock contra.
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Totally like the background and like, what better backdrop? But
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I'll shank prison for a show. And I was at
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your set this morning. I was lucky enough to be
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able to be able to be out there, and I
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was like, holy shit, there's a lot of people here
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for early Sunday morning.
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Nobody went to church.
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They skipped it to come to the prison rock show.
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That's what we like to see.
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Yeah, they came to They came to the Versus Me Church,
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which is a different kind of prison, a different kind
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of church.
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Too, exactly.
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Now, did you know that there's a working prison right
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next door? So you guys were like, Johnny Cash, play
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into the inmates for real.
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We just got released on bail just for this particular show.
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So no, I'm just kidding. But yes, I did see that.
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I didn't notice that. That's kind of wild, right, Oh.
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Totally, because it's like imagine they probably looked forward to
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this every year and you just made like their whole year.
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there's anybody that's kind of why we're out here, you know,
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as far as we are, I guess.
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they love it. Like there's a lot of people that
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live around here that they just camp out on their
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front lawn and check it out. So you know, it's
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more than what you even see out there.
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to be able to have something this big just to
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bring in a business and you know, just attraction to
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this this area.
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I'm sure it's Oh, these people love it. This is
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like the thing they look forward to every year.
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Now, if you guys done the Blood Prison, what is that? Oh,
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so that's the haunted house in the prison.
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Yes, that's like another nickname for my own body, The
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The Blood. I don't know that. I don't know what
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Here's the thing, though, if you go, you don't know
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if it's the characters trying to scare you or the
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real ghosts, because it really is haunted for real.
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We're talking about Shank. Oh you thought you were gonna
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go over to the real prison. Oh man, that's another
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good idea.
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Maybe everybody wanted to go to if you like to.
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Go to Blood Prison or the Shank prison. It wasn't
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but just shank because they'll shank it.
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I wasn't sure if our green room was just gonna
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be like a cell, and we all had our cells
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lined up for.
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Your Your green room is just like a bed, no
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mattress and a toilet.
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Hey guys, Yeah, we all got a crap in front
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of each other. So whatever it is, what it.
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Is, oh man.
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So what else you got going on the rest of
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the year that you want listeners to know about?
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So we are, We've got we're hitting the studio next month.
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We've got a few more singles that we plan on
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knocking out for release this fall.
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We've got a US tour in September.
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We've got some weeks that were on the road in October,
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so it's like it's like once we're once we're done
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with these festivals, we got a little couple weeks of
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downtime just kind of knock out some more writing. But yeah,
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it's basically studio time and then once we're done with that,
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back on the road to release these songs.
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Then sometimes its fall.
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Nice and what Okay, so now you guys are siblings,
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So what do you guys do together in in like
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personal life that has nothing to do with music.
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He cuts my hair?
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Wow, he's pretty good. You want to cut my hair
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because you do have good hair?
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So yeah, yeah, I brought my scissors too.
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Oh my god. There you go prepared.
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You know, you know this the ever you don't stage,
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you look good on the stage. You look at good
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at a.
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Festival, no doubt.
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It's a universal uh.
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Uh, you know occupation you can take anywhere, you know,
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especially doing good.
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Why don't we go to the jail next door and
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do a surprise haircut session.
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Let us in with a scissors though, that's probably that's yeah.
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Yeah, and you would have to like, uh, you know,
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these pay somebody or something you'd have to pay somebody
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to be able to do business over there.
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Yeah, maybe some free T shirts or something.
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Oh, that just reminds me that people need to go
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to your merch shop because you got some fucking awesome merch.
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Like the artwork on there. I want to hear about
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the artwork on your T shirts because it's fucking badass.
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I literally just saw the merch the other day, even
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though I saw pictures in our chats, and all of
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a sudden I the boxes were there and I opened
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a bomb.
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But I'm like, wow, these.
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Are these are really cool.
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I'd like the way it turned out.
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But he's not as active on the merch design aspect
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of it, which is fine. But for the most part,
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a lot of the design work that we have done
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is done by our guitar player, Dustin Nice. He's a
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graphic designer, so he's got an eye for that kind
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of stuff. So a lot of the stuff he will
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put together, and if not, we've got our eye on
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a few designers that we like online that do some
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cool stuff too. If if in the event that he
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gets a little overwhelmed and you know, may not have
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time to knock out a designer or three D or
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be creative, yeah, or be creative. So yeah, so it's
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a mixture of that and uh, like I said, it's
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just trying to keep keep things fresh, constantly updating stuff.
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So yeah, yeah, people gotta go buy your mercher. They
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can't listen to my show.
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You heard it here.
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Well, it's the only way you guys get to the
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next gig. Like, I think it's important for listeners to
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know that that, like support the band, you like the band,
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that's the best way to support them, and of or
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show up for the live shows and the music and
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all that, you know, but merch is what gets you
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to the next bus stop.
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Well, as I will say though, as an independent band
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who you know is still in charge of our catalog,
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you know, streaming the music does help. That does help, yeah,
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And so we are one of those occasions where you
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know it does actually directly help us too.
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So it's it's across the board, you know, just wherever
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you can find us.
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Yeah, what's the one thing that you have not done
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in music yet? That is basically the biggest goal of yours?
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I think a couple from myself, I think, you know,
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doing some like an arena shows and uh, maybe uh
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overseas of some kind.
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I think those couple of things are.
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The country in particular, you think of that, you're like,
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oh man, I want to play that are.
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thing whatever you know that ever that means as far
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as everybody goes over there and just seems like this
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really cool. Uh, people really appreciate that kind of music,
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and uh, I think you know, catering to that you know,
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fan base, that's that's something I think we would really
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love to do.
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So and the people over there are really like loyal
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to the music.
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They're like, I.
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Feel like the country support all genres, you know what
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I mean to the fullest, you know.
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I will say though, the uh probably the top countries
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that I think we would do pretty well, and just
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based off of if you look at the analytics, because uh,
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they're they're consuming our music over there, but playing over
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in Germany, I mean Germany really likes it seems like
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being a place that according to analytics, like I said, uh,
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they really stream our stuff.
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It'd be cool to play over in Sweden.
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We toured with a band from Sweden a couple of
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years ago and they couldn't speak more highly of how
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well like this music scene does over there. And then
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maybe just like a personal favorite, it'd be it'd be
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cool to play over in like Japan.
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I always cool.
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They love their music too, you know, and like as
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for instance, next week I'll be at Vakin, which proves.
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The point about Germany because.
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It's like the biggest festival in the whole world, you know,
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and they're they're like such sick loyal fans over there.
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And you go to Berlin, Like the first time I
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went to Berlin, I was like, holy crap, this is
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like the coolest place ever. All these like underground metal
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clubs and stuff and just and every genre. Like you said,
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they'll have like every genre type of club and live
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music everywhere. Is hell that's in France. I do that
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one too. That one's pretty sick.
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Yeah, I always hear about that one too.
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Oh yeah, there's a there's a.
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Few of the festivals that it would be really cool
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to check off the list as well, the Download and yeah,
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hellfest that'd be really cool, you.
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Guys would fit a great at Download. I just came
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from there. The Vodkin is actually a list for me
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because I haven't done that one yet. It will be
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my first time. So it is cool seeing the different festivals,
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even here in the States, even the Danny Wimmer festivals.
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Each one has its own personality to it.
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You know, you noticed that so far, just from the
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difference between like this one and Louder than Life, like
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they have, you know, moments where they have some similarities,
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but like you said, they're they're vastly different.
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They got totally yeah, totally different vibe.
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