Which is Scarier During The Holiday Season, Serial Killers or Serial Dating?

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0:50 It's time for. The adventures of fight Man. I'll go before supplit I com list Pompeas is number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the fight Man. Yo. It's post holiday pipe Man going into pre holiday pipe Man. And we have an. Amazing show today because I have two amazing show hosts that do shows on the sister well the West Coast station K four HD Radio, which this show rebroadcasts on. And basically, even though you would think these two shows don't tie together, they really do. So. One of them is called Hit the Road Jack Finding the Zodiac, and this is Nannette Barto, who is my resident on the show expert of everything, even though she doesn't think so, true crime, serial killers, but most importantly to Zodiac. And then we have Austo. Now this is a I love the name of this show, except when you go on Apple podcast, it only gives like the first lesson of one of the words okay, but it's fifty shades of bullshit. Forget all those other fifty shades things.

2:09 This is the real deal, okay. And this radio show, Slash Podcast, it talks about all the bullshit that goes. On in dating and online dating, but. It talks about good stuff too, And we're gonna get a little taste today. But what I want to know from my audience is what is scarier to you during this holiday season? Dating or serial killers? And we're going to bring our pipe nuts on and our two guests and we're going to discuss this, and anybody has a comments, they can send some comments in from wherever they are watching or listening. And so there we have the pipe Nut in our Wellington studio, just a stone's throw from where I am.

2:58 I almost went to the studio today. I'm like, nah, you know, And so there he is what do we call him rebel? What's his what's his pipe? Not name? I don't remember. I don't think we settled on one specifically yet. Remember how Jason was king of munchkin Land. Speaking of which, I did go see the movie Wicked with my granddaughter and oh my god, it was so funny. My granddaughter, Okay, she's ten years old, and she like five minutes and she's like, I thought this was going to be like the original movie. And I'm like, what are you talking about.

3:43 She goes, well, it's like a musical. I'm like, yeah, so was the original movie. But she did have a differentiation. It was very smart because you know the first and the first movie, Yeah, it's a musical. But there is a lot more talking. But of course you have Judy Garland who like, of course she's gonna be known for singing. Okay, but in this one. It is like like I'm on Broadway going to see a Broadway show of the backstory to the Wizard. Of Oz and that that I don't know if the kid doesn't she said was good. I don't believe her.

4:27 She was. She was. She was doing this towards because it's a three hour movie. Towards the end of movie, She's like sliding. Down in her scene, whistling around. I'm like, I turn over, are you O say? And then I you know, I told her, like, I don't like going to movies. Movies. I'd rather watch at home so I can do whatever I want. And you know, I like the multitask. But also I do not watch movies in the dark. Not because I'm scared the dark. I just like light, Okay, I like brightness. I have enough darkness in my life for the past fifty eight years that I don't need it while watching the movie now. But and what happens is I'll fall asleep.

5:14 I never sleep except earn the lights off, put me in a recliner, and put a movie on, and in thirty seconds I'm out. Okay, so usually have a movie theater. That's what would happen, but this time it wasn't happening. But she the reason it wasn't happening is because she's annoying me, checking to see if I was awake and doing like this to me. And then finally, finally, like she throws a blanket on me, and I threw it back at her. I'm like, can I watch the movie please. So anyway, that was my Wicked review. If they mayel to see the movie, give us your review. Have a have you seen the movie Wicked? You didn't go out on a eight go see the movie Wicked? No?

6:10 Okay, and not dating advice. Do you think serial killers went to go see Wicked? No, unless they were stalking somebody who was like going to it in the movie. Why do you not think that serial killers would be at Wicked? What kind of movie would a serial killer be at? That's very busy planning their next crime? Like do they watch dexter as research? Yes? I thought about this for years. Okay, So like we.

6:51 Do all these documentaries and made for TV movies, and all your freaking doing is giving them all ideas. Like I've gotten some really good ideas. I have a list. I have a list of people that if I ever should snap and become a serial killer, I knew I know who's on the list. Yeah, you. Call a woman because we're really good at true crime. Shit, Okay, saying okay, now this is interesting, Now this is gaining interesting. Now, Christine, you do a show about the fifty Shades of bullshit, but yet you also are a true crime expert too.

7:36 Well, all women who are smart and intelligent and beautiful watch a true crime shows. They listen to true crime podcasts, and we are experts. All my friends know. They just call me because I got the line and the shovel in the back. I'm ready to go. And you just prove my point, okay, because my thought process is is that okay, So if you're so into all the serial killer stuff, you might be psycho too, okay, And and I admit it, I admit it. I mean, I admit it. I'm into it too. But I don't know if all the marbles were left in my playpen.

8:25 I'm just saying, where the fuck around and find out crazy? Yes, okay, jen xers, which I am a part of, and some people on the show are someone there's one in particular I know, isn't uh. He's part of that entitled generation whatever. They are millennial? No, which generation are you one? I think I'm a millennial. He's a millennial, but. You're a younger millennial because they're okay, so I have four kids. No, I think I think millennial ends at ninety six.

9:07 Everything after that is like gen z jen alpha Yeah, so oh so I'm like the last of the millennials. Yeah, my daughter is ninety five, but she's more gen Z than millennial. And there's a definite difference between my four kids, the two older ones or older millennials, and they're more like Gen X than the younger millennials are. The younger millennials are closer gen Z, but they still are embarrassed by Gen Z two. Is that is that correct assumption? One? For the most part, Yes, what generation are you? Rebel?

9:48 We don't know? This is this is it's a many year range. I'm not asking your age, okay, I'm just asking what if you put yourself. In a decade, didn't you kind of figure out? Well? See, that's where things have gone wrong because it used to be a generation was defined by twenty five years, but not anymore. It's just like as soon as somebody becomes a little older, then it's a new generation. It's just like technology, I do. I feel like I didn't even really understand them until they came out with tide pods. Then I had to start figuring out what, well, listen, I'm old enough to not.

10:32 Yes, listen, my generation. Elephant tranquilizers, their generation did tide pods. Listen, generation before us like a bunch of idiots doing doing elephant, you know, so it's all perception, like wand probably thinks we're all idiots, is that right? Probably? So, Hey, I'm a proud card carrying gin X. Okay, we are bad as we really are the. Ship we have to survive from the day we were born. Okay, like you know, literally I was my parents' parents. It kind of sucks too, because you get jipped, okay, because you think you're going to become an adult and you get certain privileges. No, you don't, Like you have to take care of your parents like you're their parents, and then you got to take care of your kids like they're your parents, and you never get what is that said?

11:40 Adulting is bullshit? Yes, fifty shades of it. Be I don't even know what not adulting is. Okay, like listen, it's fifty shades of gen X parenting. Next way it is listen, let's think about it. We drank out a hose and was just fine, and now, like, god forbid, you shouldn't have some hybrid organic healthy, non GMO non. That's what the hose was though to be.

12:24 Safer than to one of these days. Okay. See, the thing about our parents is they were smart. They knew how to multi purpose things. So the garden hose, would you know, hose down your garden, water your lawn. You could drink out of it when you didn't want to let the kid back in the house, the children, that's right. And you used it to try up people, use it to tie up people. I mean, I don't know they well kind it does if. You turn the water on. Okay, no, No, what happens is it's like a like a snake that constricts.

13:12 That's what it does. So even the. Nuts never stayed. When you turn the water on, it kind of cut off the I mean, I don't. Know tended this ship, trust me. Speaking of serial dating and garden hoses, yes, how many people on this show here think that that's a fetish to get choked by a garden hose. I've not heard of it yet, but we can add it to the list. You would think that would be a gen x fetish since hoses were for everything. A hose makes a good butdey too.

13:54 Okay, that's what seems a little just saying and on that all right, So in all. There you go. Yeah, Hello, how are you doing? Hi? Gary, Gary, We're doing fantastic. Not talking about us. Who's sleeping? Charles is commenting on your sleeping through the movie. No, oh, well, he says rebels sleeps during sex. No, I highly doubt that.

14:36 I do not he. Hello, Mike Wagner, he's he's very cool and a great podcaster radio show personality as well. Okay, so let's talk seriously. What do you Let's all take a poll right now, and then we'll discuss what's scary during the holidays, dating or serial killers? One speaking from the Hispanic community. What's their vote? Dat? I knew it. I knew it for the Hispanics coming, I knew it.

15:18 Okay, representing the uh. Kkk, maybe I don't know. Don't say that swamp well, you know, no like rebel. Okay, Rebel lives on a street where they don't still don't allow people of color to live. I do not live there anymore. War any way. Population in some cities. Okay, I'm sorry, I can't. Okay to tell you, guys, No, Rebel's name on this show is swamp Nut. She runs our Louisiana studio, so she's swamped nut. Okay, so funny enough, we have a swamp right behind one too, like we get the Everglades is like two blocks away from Wellington Studio. Okay, So Rebel, how about you dating? Wow, it looks like it's gonna be a landslide.

16:23 Okay, we have to. Go to Christine because we guys leave the serial killer expert for last. You're gonna say dating a serial killer. But that would be awesome. Just think of Dexter and Hannah. McKay said it too. Look at that. You guys said at the same time. That means that that's a wish. Now that somebody's I think Rebel's gonna get that wish true. Okay, and here we. Are, brodated a serial killer. I know you probably have. Okay, she.

17:05 Lives. The probability if you figured out the statistical research is it's it would be harder for her to get herpes than it would to day a serial killer in Louisiana. Just saying, okay, in all fairness, my nickname once upon a time was small Fee. Okay, just saying, now y'all figure what that meant. Okay, small fee for a small fee, I'll take care of what you need taking care of and not in a sexual way. You want to know what mine is, Big Fee, two shovels, big Sea Mama. Hey, since we're talking about that, what are you? But first let we'll get the nette. We'll do both of her answers. I also want to know what your opinion of what Loreina Bobbitt did was. And this will prove what generation you're into. Then that tell us what's scarier.

17:59 You're the actu're on serial killers? What's scarier? Well, I'm going to roll. If you're dating a serial killer, you're likely the person who's the safest because he's not striving to sell you unless you don't please him, and then you're tatering on that. You know, Can I ask you. The two experts a question? Okay, seriously then, because now you've scared me. Okay, because okay, anyway is part and part of my show. Knows that I always list to three loves of my life. Just so happens. Two of them aren't even real people, they're characters. So I don't know what that says. It might give Norman Bate vibes. I don't know, but anyway.

18:46 Number one you have commitment Number one is Harley Quinn. There you go. Serial killer, okay, sweet? Number one? Number two. Number two is Hannah McCay. Okay. Do you know who Hannah McKay is? Who does not know who Annah McKay is here? I don't. It's from the TV show Dexter. Do you know about Dexter? Really? Okay? So that's the final relationship he has. She's a serial killer, he's a serial killer. She accepts both sides of him, good and bad, and not only accepts, but embraces it, and then he loses his urge to kill because of being able to be completely who he is.

19:33 So do they ever have overlapping lists? Like if they're both serial killers? Did they ever have the same people on their list at the same time to see. Because they care for different reasons? You know? Are you talking about the one that was on and Cheering candidate? No, it's a series from one. No, I know, I'm talking about Hannah McKay because that's not her real name, right. That's her Oh, that's her Dexter name? Yeah? Yeah, I think she is in the Manchurian candidate. I think you're right. Her name is Yvonne Strahovski or something like that. I don't care what her real name is. I like her character name better.

20:14 Okay, listen, I am in love with both of them and are both serial killers I don't know. And then okay, here's the psychoonist of me. Right, Okay, go ahead, Christine. You're a fear of commitment. Except okay, first, Thing one. I don't know if you know this, but my ex wives are Thing one and Thing two. Okay, if you ever meet Thing one, she will say you probably know me as Thing one if she knows you've been on my radio show. Okay, So Thing one. I met her. Six days later, had the first date three weeks later, proposed month after that, got her regnant a few months after that, moved into a brand new apartment. Month after that, got married. So commitment issues have been really a problem. Then, Okay, Thing two best friends for eighteen months. I had a thing first from the day I met her. Typical thing like, you have that thing, but you just don't say anything because you don't want to fuck it up, end up, end up sexually doing something by mistake.

21:36 Mistake exactly. I'll call you hep f in. You guys. On the other the reverse. Okay, all right, So me and her and Chad and Heather were like best friends that hung out all the time. For those of you that don't know Chad, Chad was Chad was the head engineer the network since the very beginning, one of my best friends in Florida. Incredible musician, uh you know, and uh he passed away a few years back. But him and Heather were a duo, a country rock duo.

22:19 He had a metal band in the eighties and he did a country rock thing. Uh. He always to say, I love metal, I love country, and I love Neil Diamond and he would sing Neil Diamond. You would swear it was Neil Diamond. And he was the funniest drunk you ever met. There was Chad and then it was Brad. Okay, and then you would go to one of their shows and they'd have two sets. First set which Chad, second Chet, his second set was Brad and uh Brad, Well, Brad was a lot of fun, but he was Brad was definitely a ship show too. Okay, but okay, So we said hang out all the time, and like if my daughters were sleeping over their friend's house, we would hang out my house. And then Nikki I thing too, would leave. She would she would leave going home to her apartment, and she would like text me a lot of times, you want to come over, because I would never let her stay over my house because even if my daughters were out, in case they came home, you know, because you know how that goes. They go out of sleep over, something happens, some other girl pisses them off, and they want to come home, or you gotta go bring them a tampon at two am in the morning and stuff like that. And I say this because I did do all this all the time. Okay, but yeah, pretty much. Listen, I have three daughters, okay

23:50 to prepare. And you know what's funny. You know what we do on this show. When people call me during my show, they get to go on the earth. So watch this. Hello, you're live on the air on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Oh, we're great. We're talking about I might as well ask you this question. We're talking about on the show. What's scarier during the holidays? Dating or a serial killer? A serial killer? Okay, Well, that. Says a lot about you because you're the first one to say serial killer. Even a serial killer expert on my show said dating. So but The ultimate which I enjoy is dating a serial killer. So if you know any let me know, get.

24:47 Me their digits. Okay, I can. Pretend if you like. All right, you are live on the air, So if you want to give yourself a plug for your business or whatever you. Do, go ahead. If not, get off my show show and hang up. Talk to you later. For the business juices. Y okay? So serial killer? My friend in the I would say late seventies, early eighties, was her boyfriend turned out to be a serial killer?

25:27 Wow? Well, I don't know if any of my exes were serial killers because I don't know if they got the three. There's three or more? Right? Is that what makes you a serial killer? More than no? I think it has to be like three or more. I think might be. Getting the masks murderers. If you're going three or more one time more individually. Isn't a serial killer or somebody that's a mass murderer. Serial Killers don't usually just kill one or they're not serial I think I. Think the difference. I think the difference is that a mass murderer kills them all at the same time. A serial killer does it over time. Yes, right, yes, one I newly had you on the show for some sensibility.

26:13 Here, I'm pretty sure. He's got Google in front of him. He's the only one that made sense this whole time. Okay, I said, I. Was telling you you kill more than one at a time. Yeah, that's a serial killer. But one can. You google how many people you have to murder to get the promotion up to serial killer? Because it's a promotion you go from killer to serial killer. I mean, like, if I were a killer, I would strive to want to be a serial killer. Got to perfect her. Okay, So according to the Dictionary, it's a person who commits a series of murders, often with no apparent motive, and typically following a character stick predictable behavior pattern.

27:04 So then that, but it doesn't say how many. Yeah, I think that makes rebel right. Okay, I hate to admit, but in this one, the South has one in this one. Here here's here's something else. According to and this is like very very accurate because it's coming from Wikipedia, it says a person who murders three or more people, with the killings taking place over significant period of time. See I knew, we knew it. I knew it was three I knew it was three. So we'll call the draw the North and the South or the draw. You get to keep your slaves, we get rid of ours.

27:47 You don't have any, and we don't want any. Everybody's a free person. Do you have a maid? Do you have a maid? No? Okay, then you don't have a slave. Do you have paid I'm repaid. You're not a slave. If you're If you're paid, since you're the dating expert or the fifty shades of Bullshit expert, if you're paid for sex, is that the same philosophy? Its prostitution is the oldest trade in the book. It's a it's a sex work, and it uh, it's it's it's it's a thriving business.

28:29 So here's the question the books. If you go to get a massage and you get a happy ending, is that prostitute? It's sex work. It's sex work. But it's you know, so, why so wives are they? Are they slaves for their husbands? They sex slaves? Well, it depends on it depends on your name, But it depends on what your thought of that debt. I think it depends on your. Then again, she's getting paid. Well, then the real question The real question is Barner, go ahead. The real question is like what is the difference, Like where do you draw the line between slavery and minimum wage workers? If all your money is going towards food and towards your house and your.

29:21 Food, you're that's a great point. Say like if at the end of the month you don't have any left order for yourself, Like, are. You really I've got prisoners in prison that get fourteen cents an hour. I consider that slavery. I consider that fucking lucky because they've got a room board and something to do, and they're not out doing bad things they're supposed to they're not supposed to be doing. They actually had a measure on the ballot this last round in regards to the prison prisoners having rights to not have to work, to be forced to do the things that they have to do. I thought to myself, seriously, that's what we come to as a society, is that they have rights.

30:05 Now, Well, here's the thing else. If you do more research, you find out how much money the system is making. Prisoner. So yes, somebody that really did something deserves it, But there's so many people in prison that shouldn't be there or have way more of a punishment than they should that are used as slavery to do work and produce money. You know, I had stayed something years ago that basically every prisoner is worth about eight hundred dollars a day. Now, if you figure out how many people are in the prison system, it's in the millions.

30:51 That's big, big money. That's why the people have wanted to privatize it. It is it is privatized prison. Back off. Here's the question, though, is that eight hundred dollars per prisoner going directly to the prison to feed, house clothes and take care of them. No, and that's what it should be doing. Our tax money should not be paying for this. No, we're paying for that right, they're keeping the money for whatever. That's that's the problem exactly. It lies the fifty shades of bullshit. I have. I have to earn my keep every day, So I don't understand why they would think that their rights are being violated violated to have to earn their keep every day.

31:39 I mean, we have to get up and go to work. We have to make our lives go around. You're right, you're right. And then there's the other side of it, is they're not choosing what they want to do for work or have a choice. They're put into something. But but they're being punished, so that there's that too. Here's the thing they're this is the thing though. If the money went towards taking care of them properly, then that would be the. Proper way to do it. And it's it's okay to then say, hey, you are working off your debt, you know, to society as you are in prison.

32:20 By taking care of themselves. But when our tax money goes there and then that money is paid to lyning pockets of somebody else, then there lies the problem. And I can understand why they wouldn't want to work then mm hmmm. Absolutely, So that's why you become a serial killer right in the net. Or a dat. So, Mike, I wonder how many end up being or becoming a serial killer while in prison. Well, yeah, of course, because you have to kill people to survive. So now you know, like that, and they don't teach you anything except to be a criminal in prison.

33:04 People that go to prison basically learn how to be a better criminal or more of one. So, Nannette with the zodiac, what have you found in these realms, and what did you find with the Zodiac. Were things more prevalent during the holidays or were they actually less prevalent, Because you know, serial killers are spending time with their family during the holidays. Christmas seemed to be a hot time for the Zodiac, so we literally what we know of the Zodiac in the California area. One of the particular crimes actually happened around Christmas where I was just watching the John Benny ramsay.

33:48 Of course, that was a child that was killed during the Christmas season, and it's my belief that is that was done by a serial killer, So I think that they do. I think it was at all. Oh oh no, not at all for that little girl. I actually am watching the new docuseries right now. I'm a little disgusted. I'll be bringing it up. I just finished with the new Zodiac docuseries on Arthur Lee Allen and I discussed it on my last show. It's it's terrible how the media and the police have treated these individuals during the time they're supposed to be actively looking for the person who's actually doing the crime, and they're spending all of this time just wasting away the individuals that really can't defend themselves. I mean, at least John Ramsey had some money when he started this entire or when he came under scrutiny, but in the end, it really took everything out of him. It took his home, it took his wife, it took everything. And to see that they literally cleared him from DNA as early as you know, I think they held out that information for about eleven months before they actually knowledge that they had been cleared from DNA. But then they tried to backpedal and say, well the DNA, the DNA wasn't done correctly. No, no, no, no, because even the da had come back I want to say, in two thousand and eight, and she reconfirmed that that DNA cleared each of those individuals. So I think that the holidays are a time when people who may or

35:21 may not have been treated. I mean they always say somebody comes from a bad you know, situation or a bad background, and maybe that's a time in their life that things weren't great for them, and that's when they you know, the rage builds and they decide that this is you know, the time they're going to take life. Is that the zodiac above rebels had. She's got a floating, floating ghost. There's there's an orb. There's an orb, and I think that might be the zodiac coming on this rounds. It's not a red right, there's no like or something else. I just.

36:03 Like what you think it is. They're a really bad shot because they couldn't get it right on you at all. It's like right next to your head. It's just enough to scare your rebel. Maybe they just want to scare you. Well, if it's above my head and I can't see it, I guess I'm not, you know, really too worried about it. You can't see it. It's like somebody's got a mirror. Do you have a light coming a light source coming through hitting. A mirror around? I think she's doing it on purpose. What do you think want her watch? I think I think she's I think she's. Wearing a watch.

36:46 What's that? That's what's casting? Yeah, that's what it is. It's back. The bracelet. Okay, So Christine, yes, with your expertise, what is your whole viewpoint of the dating during the holidays thing? Well, dating sees the holidays when you're not in a committed relationship is called cuffing. It's cuffing season right now. It typically starts in October November and goes through at least February.

37:27 It's time the game. Cuffing season is when you don't want to be alone for the holidays and you want to have somebody to go. Home with when you're with family alone, or. You don't want to celebrate the holidays alone and feel like you're by yourself, so they pair up with somebody for the winter holidays time, and then you're pretty much dumped in either January or February because those people either want to do Valentine's Day with you or they don't. And that's typically about the time that the breakups happen. So I have a question, Convenience, I have a question for you. Okay.

38:10 The part of the thing one story that I didn't say is right around the holidays, when we had an apartment being built, we were about to get married. She's pregnant, blah blah blah. She broke up with me quote unquote because I was too nice. I learned that I learned not to do that. You know that. You know what that's code for? Tell us, I'm pretty sure, but tell us. Uh insecurity and the belief that they're that you're not worthy enough. So someone too nice doesn't work for them because they don't think they deserve to be treated that well.

38:53 Before the engagement and before the pregnancy. Pregnancy, it's around the holidays and stuff like that happens, though, isn't it, Christine. Now that's the opposite. What's the opposite? That's the opposite of it, because I can tell you all right, So usually during the holidays I would prefer to be but that's because like I'm the ultimate optimist, except on the holidays, I go that's my dark time in the year. No, people get lonely during this time. You know, maybe you're not around family, maybe you're a distance from them and you can't go back, or maybe your family just fucking sucks, so you know, either way, it kind of becomes a time where people can feel like they're alone or lonely, and they're going to parties and they don't want to go by themselves and they don't want to feel like a loser. So I actually prefer to feel like.

39:51 I'm ofer loon. But people will pair up and then or if you've got somebody the opposite, they don't want to meet the family, or they don't want to lead you on with meeting friends, or they're just cheap assholes who don't want to buy you a gift. Those are reasons why a lot of people break up during the holidays too, that's true. And the gift part that would not be me. But what would totally be me is like, I like being in my own domain during a time like that. I'm not as extrovert as I am like in events and business life and hearing that and even in personal life.

40:42 But usually it's my own domain no matter where it is. It doesn't mean it's in my actual domain. It's like, but when you're in somebody else's house, and especially if it's somebody that you're meeting for the first time that's their parents or what have you, that's a very uncomfortable time to do. It is during the holiday. Lot of pressure, you know, a lot, right. And so what happens is too and you tell me if you find this a lot no relationship. So he's saying, if you. Don't have a relationship, you're not giving presents out, and that what I was saying.

41:22 You know, maybe someone doesn't want to give presents but. He said plural, do you significant other? Well, it depends on how bushi she is, okay. For how many guys are dating at once tearing up. If you're lonely, then obviously you have the desire to want to be with somebody. So going to these events alone better opportunity of matching up with somebody you may want to date in the future. I mean, unless all your friends are coupled up married in relationships, I'm always the fifth, seventh, eleventh will. Okay, So let's let's progress the thing too. Chad and Heather introduced us, well, Heather did when she invited both of us without telling, because we didn't know each other without telling. To Thanksgiving. We were just in Thanksgiving because for some reason that year.

42:22 I wasn't spending with my kids. I was somebody that like, you know, I would get bummed out, Like now you know, I went up, I drove up to North Carolina and be with the kids and grandkids for Thanksgiving, drove back, you know, That's that's what I do. But then if I'm not with them for the holidays, it's kind of a bummer. I'm okay being alone. It's it's the kids that makes the difference, you know. But I became an accident. You never did answer that question. Okay, you accidentally fell into her vagina with your. Yeah. Yeah, So here's what I'll tell you what happened. But at first I do want to say is it was Heatherbrickett's fault because she introduced us at Thanksgiving. So to your point and that like if you go somewhere by yourself, you could meet somebody. But considering that's thing too, that means that I'm no longer with her, which maybe that wasn't a great move. Meeting somebody during the holidays.

43:22 I don't think it's necessarily a great move because of the things Christine's mentioning, and the things you may want during the holidays that you won't want after the holidays, or the fact that you're lonely, or the fact that you want to be a part of something in in their site. I think it would have been different if you intentionally fell in. The fact that you accidentally fell in should have told you all you needed to know. But that wasn't what happened. So we didn't date. We were like best friends for eighteen months after we met, okay, and then one night we were at my house while my daughters were sleeping out, and she texted me after she left, like she normally does, but it said the text message said want to bone over? And so I what I do? I only trust the advice of a woman in women things. So I go to Heather Briquette and I show her this message. I'm like, does that mean why I think it means.

44:17 She's like, oh, yeah, I know. She did not say that. She led me believe that that meant what I thought it meant, which was not auto correct, and she she said that I'm like I told her and child like, get the fuck out, and then I. That was my exact words. And I drove over to her house and like so I used to we were like best friends. It was one of those like we would even sleep I would sleep over and sleep in bed together, but not have sex or anything, even though I wanted to. And basically that night I just went for it because I thought I got the green light. She didn't stop me. The next morning, she's like, what even came over with you?

45:04 What made you do that? And so I told her and then she punched me in the arm. She's like, you idiots started laughing and saying no, want to come over is what it was supposed to mean. So try over, bone over, bone over. Yeah, it was. It was wishing it taking on my part, and then I got and then I was married to her three months later. So commitment issues were not the issue. Going back to the original reason we were telling this. However, they might be now, and they might be now, just saying they might be now, who knows, But you know what, what I found at this point in life is okay.

45:45 So there's a reason why there's a fifty two percent divorce rate first time, seventy six percent, second time eight percent, third time because the third time, you finally are smart enough to pick the one that's right for you and just for you, and not for any other reason, enough for raising kids, not for how it looks in the community, not because your parents, not because your friends, not because anything else. Just somebody that's absolutely perfect for you. Or and that's why I'm waiting for Harley Quinn. Or maybe maybe it's true what they say third times of charm, right. I always say it all the time. I always say it all the time, But now I've gone. My last divorce was two thousand and seven, So everybody used to make fun of me after school.

46:32 You commit quick, you commit quick. So I taught them all lesson because here I am all these years later and I haven't committed to anybody since then. Well maybe a little bitter. So what is the top three things Christine as the expert here that is scary about dating during the holidays, And let's include online dating because online dating is like the scariest waste of time ever. It used to be good in the beginning. Now it's just like scrolling. Yeah, it's a show, you know, I don't he out here in l A. The problem is is that most of the men are lying to get laid and then they run.

47:19 For the hills in l A, just l A. I think it's universal. That would never happen in Florida. They just kill each other. It's a. What's that. Right? I think the. Problem is is that it's it is a breeding ground for free secs. Men think that if they lie to women and manipulating. Florida, then this is hey, get some free What are you.

48:03 Paying for it? It costs a lot of night to have sex in Florida. Women in Florida only have sex with you if you have money or cocaine. If you have both, bonus. It's starting to come that here, you know, Uh, we're really fed up with men lying about you know, being wanting to be in a relationship. Everything. Yeah, pretty much everything. And you know, I'm not just picking on men. Women are the same way. There are women out there doing the same thing. I'm not prejudice against men or women fucking up and being assholes. But I think that a lot of times people are lying about it and they just they they don't want relationships because they came out as shitty ones.

48:45 The problem is they need to fix themselves. Once they start working and fixing themselves, they're going to find better relationships. They're going to find people who don't lie to them because they're you know, bullshit meter works and uh, you. Know, and bumping your head into somebody who also wants the same thing. I mean, yes, they've got a quota they're trying to meet to see how many they can get, But you might actually bump your head into somebody who wants exactly what you want if you tell the truth. In California, I think in California that guys probably have a quota for having sex with every race possible, so they can be exclusive, diverse.

49:31 You never you never know, you never know. Bullship meters are going off all the place. What else is scary? What else is scary? Well, you know the close way. Take it to the edge of time is That's how scary it is. Edge of time? Yeah, the very edge of that time. Oh are you trying to remind the. Pipe Do you try to say that the show's over or. The end of time for someone's life? You know, right to the edge of time. That kind of sounded like something that serial killer would say. I'm just taking it right to that.

50:13 The zodio definitely dish. We're going to have to continue this conversation. But I can tell you as a Jersey boy, I had a great interview recently and that's going to be part of next week's show. It's a new documentary about the Jersey Sound and the music scene in Jersey. So that's going to be included in the show next week. But real quick, first, Christine, tell everybody all your contact info, all your business info, your show info, and anything you wantif. Yep, fifty Shades of Bullshit you can find is obviously on K four HD Radio, Facebook, YouTube and anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's fifty Shades of bullshit you spell out if I ft y and to reach us, you can email us at fifty Shades of Bullshit at gmail dot com.

51:05 But with Gmail they don't allow. Us to say shit, so we can say shite. Say why so fifty shades of bullshite at gewish. Yes, you can find us on Instagram and Facebook as well, the same name fifty shades of underscore bullshit for ig. So there we are. And Nannette Barto, you do the same thing. Give all your business info, all your show info, all your and everything. I don't know if you want to give. Your like your clothes sizes, but keep everything. Can I just say ditto? But Finding the Zodiac reading said, yeah, I for the obvious obviously is going to be my forensic document examination business and hit the road Jack. Finding the Zodiac is the podcast that I do every Friday at ten am on all the same locations that Christine just mentioned.

52:06 Nice, very nice, very. Nice cool means you guys rock. We love having you on the Avengers of Pipe Man. At least I have more intelligent people than Rebel on the show. And Rebel you didn't remind me, so we'll have to do that next week. But I will say everybody has to leave the show and go make your Santa list because today is National Santa List Day. It's your deadline. Pretend like it's your taxes. It's your deadline. Make your list today. I don't have to. I'm a Jew, I'm exempt, okay, but I don't get anything either. Don't get anything either, So you guys have to share with me.

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