Pipeman Radio Interviews NILE at Graspop Metal Meeting 2024

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at grass Pop and I'm here with Hey.

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I'm Carl from now Nice. Nice, and you guys are performing here

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today. I think the rain is
supposed to be gone by time you go

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on stage. Well, one could
wish yeah, right, or it will

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be one hell of a mud pit. Right. Oh. Man, I

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had to change shoes today because I
totally ruined mine yesterday. And I hate

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shit a few times too, Dude, I hate getting mud on my shoes

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at the festival because then you gotta
play in muddy shoes, right exactly,

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and it doesn't go away. So
you've been around for a long time.

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Have you played grass Pop before?
Several times? Nice? So you must

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do a great job that they keep
bringing you back here, you know.

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Well, at least that's my takeaway. I don't know if it's the actual

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takeaway. That's what I'm gonna take
away. There you go, tell the

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listeners who have never heard you,
which I find hard to believe since you've

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been around since the early nineties,
what you're all about as a band,

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of what your music's all about.
Well, Nile is first and foremost to

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death metal bands, brutal, fast, heavy, and we have a lot

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of exotic influences the name Nile.
We do a lot of songs concerning Egyptian

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mythology, history, blah blah blah. Yeah, and you know, I

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also read something that like, it's
kind of surprising that there aren't more death

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metal bands talking about denial or Egypt
or anything like that. So I don't

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mind that at all. You were
pretty smart because you picked up on something

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that makes sense. Well, you
know, there's there's so many bands that

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are doing the exact same thing that
we just wanted to do something a little

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bit different, something we were interested
in, and you know, critics be

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damned, you know what. I
love that what you said, though,

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because as somebody who has been a
metal head for more years than probably most

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people even here, you know,
it was different in the beginning, Like

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even the Big four Thrash none of
them sounded the same, but they were

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all thrash you know, and basically
nowadays it's almost like sometimes there's an algebraic

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equation to make a metal song,
and that's weird to me, you know.

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S Craig Zaler, a famous music
critic from New York, said the

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same thing. He said, there's
a four ingredient chemistry that goes up to

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making a band's identity, and depending
on what balance of those four elements determines,

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you know, where they fall on
the spectrum. So what got you

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into death metal from the beginning before
you even had a band? What got

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you personally into death metal? Well, it was already in bands before death

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metal even existed. Yeah, So
a good friend of mine, David Vincent

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from Morbid Angel, turned me onto
a whole entire new genre of music that

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was completely unaware of that even existed, right, And it was so challenging

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musically and technical, and I was
like, yeah, this is the next

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level. That's what I want to
do. Well, you know, I

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started out in the LA scene,
went to the first Slayer show ever,

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first Metallica show ever, and then
they left us with all the bands and

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so me and my bro we used
to take either a greyhound or hitchhike up

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to the Bay Area to go to
the real shows, and that's where I

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discovered Possessed. When they first came
out, Oh my god, I was

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like, wow and great story.
First I went to the first ever punk

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and metal show where they were both
in the same house. You know,

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how'd that go? It was fucking
nuts? Okay, it was at Okay,

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it was at the Sun Valley Sportsman's
Lodge. It was basically an Elks

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lodge and there was no security if
you can imagine. And you had the

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three bands that were the punk bands
were coc pre Pepper and Suicidal pre Crossover

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Wow and the Descendants. And then
on the other side was Savage Grace who

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wasn't they actually just put out a
new album after thirty years, but they

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were like big thrash in La.
Toured with Motorhead but they never got to

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a point like Metallica or Slayer.
And then there was Dark Angel, who

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I love yeah, come on,
oh my god, yeah, one of

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my favorite bands ever, and Possessed
And if I could paint a visual for

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you, the ceiling was about as
high as this tent and there were rafters

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up there and people were climbing up
to raffers and doing stage dives from the

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top, like and all I remember
in my head is people flying through the

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air. Dude. It was like
that in the Metroplex in Atlanta back in

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the late eighties. Just like that
was an old train station have been converted

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into a venue and there were three
levels and people would be flying from the

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rafters and the balconies. It was
nuts, hey, Les, Yeah,

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but you know what was great about
that first show. It was nuts.

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As far as people that aren't into
metal, they would probably go and go,

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you know, because there's no place
to hide, right. But there

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were no fights. Like I was
a long hair I would get my ass

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kicked going to punk shows that I
wanted to go to because you weren't allowed

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to, right. So it was
so cool to have all of us in

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one place, no fights, becoming
more of a family like we are today,

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because I always thought it was stupid. We should have been a family

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together. I'm not into divisiveness exactly. Big metal is a great uniter of

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people from every culture every place.
Let's be metal, that's right, like

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this, I am metal, you
are metal, Your metal as fuck,

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You're it's screwed. Yes, you
were in his teacher and growed, saying,

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I am metal. I know that's
badass, right, So tell me

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also about you have a history of
creating song titles that are long. What

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made you come up with that?
I think it's actually genius to be because

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again makes you stand out. Well, sometimes the title is descriptive of you

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know, what's in the song,
So sometimes you need a title like that

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to actually, you know, capture
what it is that the song is about.

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Yeah, like Chapter for not being
hung upside down on a stake in

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the underworld to maybe eat Thesis by
the Four Apes would not be the same

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if you just called it chapter.
That's what I was thinking of my head

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as you're saying, I'm like,
I hope he's gonna say just chapter because

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that that's a perfect explanation. Nobody
would have any clue what that means right

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now, one of these titles,
you know what the song is about.

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The other one it could be anything
exactly. Let's talk the new album because

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it's badass. In fact, that
was how I got through the rain to

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get the festival today. Was I
put it on because I always do that

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to get pumped up for an interview. I'll I'll just listen to the music

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and then I'm like in the mode. So tell us about the new album.

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Well, it's called The Underworld awaits
us all. It's coming out August

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twenty third Napalm Records. It's our
tenth nine album. That's amazing, And

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how is it the same? How
is it different from previous albums? From

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you the artist, how would you
describe your evolution as a band and the

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music you're creating now? I think
this one is very focused, it's very

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streamlined. There are many Nile albums
where there's lots of extraneous and instrumental,

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but this one's really streamlined. It's
it's metal as fuck, takes no prisoners,

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crushes you from the get go,
doesn't let up till the end.

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Nice if you, as the artist, would say the one thing. Of

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course, there's multiple things, but
if you were to pick one thing that

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separates you from all other death metal
bands, what would it be? We're

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Nile. That's the best answer ever. Funny about that. When I was

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in college, I was in a
philosophy class and we had the final exam

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and the question on the essay,
and you had like three hours to write

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your essay was why some chick gets
up in like ten seconds and walks out,

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and I'm like, what the hell
she got the best grade in the

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class because her answer was why not? Why not? For there? It

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is? There it is? And
so one story good and bad, good

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or bad, not good, bad, good or bad, crazy, wild,

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whatever you want to pick that really
sticks out in your mind over all

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these years of being musician. What
would it be if I had to pick

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one? I know, That's why
it's a hard question, right. It

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would be back in the early days
when we did our first tour across the

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States, and when we had made
it all the way to the West coast

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and we're standing there on the seaside
looking at the Pacific Ocean, and I

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realized, Wow, this is a
milestone moment. Our music has taken us

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all the way across the country.
Wow. Never forget that feeling looking out

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across the Pacific Ocean, watch the
sunset. My music took us all the

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way across the country. Wow,
that's something that meant something to me.

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Now you're here in Belgium at grass
Pop to kick our butts tonight talking with

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another Bay Area guy. There it
is I'm from South San Francisco. Nice,

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Nice, So who is your favorite
band you saw in the Bay Area?

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Would you say, my favorite band
saw in the Bay Area? Then

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Santana back in the day. Wow, that's cool, that was very cool.

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Yeah, I was the type.
It's funny you should say that because

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I was the type that used to
go a Slayer show on Friday night and

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a Dead show on Saturday. I
experience it, all right, that's the

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thing too. There's all these gatekeepers. But don't we all like different kinds

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of music. It doesn't have to
just be one. I don't get people.

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It's like, I only listen to
this if you're into music. You're

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into music. Yeah, come on, it's a universal language, no doubt,

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it's the universal unit. Or I
think the one thing I take out

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of COVID is maybe they shouldn't have
shut down music and everybody wouldn't be so

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pissed or depressed or anything that's gone
on for several years because they had no

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outlet. Bands like you give us
an outlet. We can go in the

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pit, get out our frustrations so
we're not pissed off in the world or

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hurting people because people don't understand.
We don't hurt people in the pit.

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We help people in the pit.
That's right. It's a healthy outlet for

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all of life's frustrations and stresses.
I highway advocate harder forms of music because

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you get all your angst outs.
Let it go. Yeah, No,

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it's crank up the Metallica, crank
up the Slayer, put on Cannibal Corpse,

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feel the violence, let it go
exactly. And I think for me

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it gets my adrenine pumping. So
I'm also a motivational speaker, and to

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prepare for my seminar, as i'm
driving to it, I'll crank up the

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most brutal music there is, so
I get all pumped up, and to

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me, it makes me feel positive. And I think that's the most understood

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thing about metal is and I think
it's because people don't really read the lyrics.

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That don't aren't metal heads. They
just hear certain words and like,

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oh, it's about this and that, and like yours is historical, you

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know, and there's real subjects we're
talking about that people really can relate to.

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And I think that's what's important.
Well said, Sorry, thank you

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and thank you for being here at
grass Pop. Tell everybody your how they

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can reach out to you. Guys. Check out your tour dates, your

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new get your new album and merch
all that good stuff, socials. Whatever

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you want to give us, well
you just look us up just on Facebook

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or go to our website Nile Dshcatacombs
dot com. Uh no, nileofficial dot

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com. Yeah all right, cool, Well listen, I am so excited

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about your set tonight and thanks for
being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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