July 25, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Future Palace About Distortion and Cognitive Distortion

Future Palace have dedicated an album to this feeling of overwhelm. On the new record “Distortion”, the Berlin post-hardcore trio deals with an almost oppressing mass of mental illnesses and problems. In doing so they create music that - appropriate...

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Future Palace have dedicated an album to this feeling of overwhelm. On the new record “Distortion”, the Berlin post-hardcore trio deals with an almost oppressing mass of mental illnesses and problems. In doing so they create music that - appropriate to this topic - hits more hooks than ever before from one moment to the next, from the quietest depths to the loftiest heights.

A central feature of Future Palace's music has always been the examination of the problems that primarily take place inside a person. “Distortion” is not only no exception in this context, but is also considered the brutal climax of this approach. The album title, which is derived from the psychological term cognitive distortion, represents a picture of a world in which the constant change in one's own perception causes one to fall into the same traps again and again from which there seems to be no way out. Future Palace prove that this confusing view of the world can manifest itself in many aspects by dealing with very different images of illnesses and people on “Distortion”, from ADHD to depression to narcissism. The Berlin band's third album is such an overwhelming force of emotions, struggles, negotiations, cycles and cries of desperation that the sheer amount alone can take your breath away when you listen to it.

“I sang the entire album with a root infection”, says singer Maria Lessing. “We had to postpone the studio stay because I had a wisdom tooth surgery shortly before we started recording and had to struggle with a lockjaw for a few weeks. The demos then had to be completed at extremely short notice - that was pure stress for me. But I have the feeling that the songs have become even more authentic here and there.” The genesis of “Distortion” also reflects the band’s everyday life. “The album was definitely created under the impression of being a heavy touring band”, explains guitarist Manuel Kohlert. “This means that it also exposes the feelings of being on the road a lot, of understanding your own existence in this special form of living and of looking into the past and future in this state.”

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more importantly, the message in the music is so important,

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not only in general, but today more than ever. So

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let's welcome to show Maria from Future Palace. How are

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you hello?

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Nice to be here. I'm good. I'm in the ress

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room right now. Nice rare interview place for me. Yeah,

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I'm good. I'm good.

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How are you very cool? Oh I'm doing great. I'm

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here in South Florida, so we're rather yeah. Yeah. Well,

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you know, it's crazy this time of the year because

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the weather, you know, it's it's funny. It's very similar

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to Germany because I have friends there and like, I'm

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why of my friends. I'm talking to her and you know,

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every day we're matching the weather and it's pretty cool.

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It's pretty close because we have bipolar weather time of

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year two.

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Oh yeah, that's insane here right now because it's so

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hot in overhouse the room. But then the next day

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there's thunderstorms again, and then it's hot again and it's

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cold again, and oh it plays with my body as well.

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I was like so dizzy the past days.

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Oh yeah, and you guys, I don't know about by you,

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but by where she is they had like a major flood.

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So she's from west, from the west of Germany.

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I think she's Lingcoln. It's like I think, I think

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it's like northwest. It's about three hours from Amsterdam, near

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einhobe Hope.

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Oh yeah, then it's we are like the like we're

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from Berlin, east of Berlin, also the east of Berlin,

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but east of Germany. So the weather can be very different.

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But I normally come to Berlin during the winter, so

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the weather's not really that great.

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Yeah, be happy, because who the hell wants to be

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in the city when it's hot, Because, I mean, were

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some stuff to do. We have some pretty legs. We

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have to spree the river. That is cool, but besides that,

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I would rather pick a beach or something when it's

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like thirty plus degrees. How much of funen hybrid.

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Yeah yeah, that's about ninety fahrenheit around.

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Ah yeah yeah nice.

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So yeah, that's pretty much. We have like thirty thirty

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one degrees every day during the summer or hotter. But

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then we have thunderstorms like every day, but they only

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last like a short time, Like you're gonna be sitting

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here in this interview right now and it'll be beautiful wow,

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which it is, and then all of a sudden, out

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of nowhere, Yeah, the worm comes in, just massive destruction,

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and then it's gone, like it never happened.

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That actually happened yesterday. It's why I'm here right now.

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I was supposed to be here yesterday in the reheuse room,

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but there was a thunderstorm suddenly out of nowhere for

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a few hours, and I'm like, okay, well I'm not

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going to drive the bike there, so right, funny funny.

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And I do want to say, like, the first time

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I ever went to Berlin, I was so impressed because

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I'm a Jew, American Jew. So if you've never been

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to Berlin and your American Jew, you're like, I don't

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really want to go there because there's this misconception, you know,

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from going way back, but it's so different nowadays, and

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I want people to know, like it was one of

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my favorite cities in the world because it's so progressive

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and it's so not what you would think it is

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compared to what it used to be.

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would hate Berlin and burn it first. That's why we

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are from Berlin. We were raised here, born here, and

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I'm always shocked when I go outside of Berlin because

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there's this running guck that Berlin is only no Berlin

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and nothing else from Germany because like the main thing,

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and you don't need to go, and that's so true.

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I feel like I'm living proof of that now because

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of touring, I got to know German anymore. But I

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never left the city. I would rather go to another country,

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and I think I've been to more countries than I've

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been to other cities in Germany because I just feel

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pretty at home here. I mean, it makes sense, but

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also lots of people move within Germany, and many people

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moved to Berlin at aretasen. Yeah, progressive and open minded,

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and I'm very lucky to be born here and I

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feel like I fit in here quite well. And I

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couldn't think of another city in Germany at least where

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I would fit in more.

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I see and the underground or even above ground music

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scene there is so cool. Like some of the places

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I went to, like some of the you know, like

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pub type places that were metal where some of the

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and I've been to all the iconic venues throughout my life,

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they were some of the coolest venues I ever went to.

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It was, Oh wow, the whole vibe. You know, it's

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like if you're a metal head, you belong Inlin. Berlin.

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Oh nice, I think, Uh, it's when have you been here?

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Because it's now very very I mean it's always been

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very techno like raving everywhere I saw that.

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I saw that too. The last time I was there

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was right before COVID.

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Okay, so not too long ago, I mean now yeah, okay, now,

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I think sadly after COVID, a lot of clubs had

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to close down because of financial issues. And actually one

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of my favorite events was called Rocket Stage. I don't

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know if you know that, Like it's in the Kidcat Club,

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but it's not the Kid Cat So if you're familiar

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with Berlin. You know that location, but it has like

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a pool and everything, and I went there many times

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to like party rock rock clubs, and it doesn't happen

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there anymore. I'm very very sad about. Also, had we

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had a Furst Ever shows future Pellas in that club,

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so that was so iconic and I'm very sad that

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it's now not happening in that club anymore. Very versaid,

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so lots of one of my favorite clubs. Also. Actually

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that was the first show I think or second it

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closed down completely, not a location anymore.

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Well, that's like okay, So I used to go to

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shows at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip back in

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the eighties when that was the height of that and

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you know that was known for bands like Metallica playing there,

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Slayer playing there, And now to your point, it's mostly

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techno in house music.

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The whole idea of the Roxy on the Sunset Strip

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being techno house music just kind of blows my mind.

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Yeah, I feel like it's I don't know how the

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scene is going here in Berlin. I feel like we

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are one of the very very few bands that still

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do this and that are not underground here in Berlin.

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There used to be a bigger metal scene here, but

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it kind of died out because like it's sad, techno

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and all that stuff, and it's pretty hard to find

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like events these days that do that are bigger that

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do metal stuff. There are of course still events that

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do that, but I'm actually pretty happy because I feel

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like we kind of bring that scene back to life

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here because we also with the new album, we do

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connect bits of techno here and there bits of electronic parts,

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which I think is funny and just suits where we

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are from, and it also kind of combines both worlds,

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and that's kind of my wish that maybe we could

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bring all these people back together. And we are kind

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of because we're now going to play Hugs Lays here

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in Berlin on our headline tour, which is very weird

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for me to think of because I've been seeing huge

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acts there and I'm very happy to be playing there

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and in my own home tone nice.

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That's very cool, and yeah, I think I think it

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is cool, Like, Okay, so you'll love this. I was

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covering because I go around the world and I do

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radio coverage of music festivals everywhere in the States, Europe,

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UK and a few years ago I was doing download

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and one of my photographer friends like, come on, we

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gotta go catch a set. It's a band I never saw,

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and it was in the tent and we go in

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there and I'm like, At first, I was like, well,

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that's not really my type of music, and then about

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ten seconds later I was like, oh my god, this

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is like the best live show ever.

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Oh it was.

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It was Electric call Boy.

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Oh when I wasn't still with the old electric hall

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work kind of thing or what they are now.

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I don't know because I didn't know them, but it

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wasn't long ago. Was a few years ago. And then

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I've seen them a bunch of times since now because

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they've played at US metal festivals and I just saw

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them at Grass Pop.

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I think to your point, that's kind of stuff like

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that is bringing the genres together, because I I hate

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how people are like these gatekeepers of music and artists

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and genres. I come from that time, and I hated

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it then. I thought it was stupid, like I couldn't

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go to punk shows because I was a metal head.

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It was Yeah, that's not the point of that.

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Yeah exactly. So I love that nowadays that even here

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in the US we're taking a queue from the European

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festivals and actually blending genres in the festivals. And you know,

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what music is music, and if you collect you that's

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all that matters. You know, you can be a metal

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head and listen to anything, like why people think and

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some metal heads are like so perc if you can

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only listen to Blackened Death technical blah blah, It's like

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that's just stupid. Like I can like multiple things.

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You know, absolutely, and you should. I think it is

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staying open minded and that's kind of the thing you

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should be in life in general. And I enjoy it

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so much when we play now bigger festivals together with

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artists that are different from us, it's so refreshing and

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so nice. I just love it. And that's also what

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we kind of are here for. We're here to be

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not this typical metalcore bands, and I think we are

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not for any reasons, and we can feel that when

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we are a festivals that are a bit more old school,

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when it's very typical metal core, we kind of point

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out because our stick out because we are not like that, really,

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and I noticed that and I'm happy about that because

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also at our shows, actually they are so different. The

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crowds are very different from every city, and like Copenhagen,

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it looked like a student party with like many many

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also didn't even look alternative at all. And then we

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went to to like boot Up Pass and it looked

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like a full of metal show, like mainly mainly man

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and it switched and then sometimes older people than younger people.

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And I love that about us, you know, about our crowds,

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and that is so cool because that is my goal

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to combine as many people as possible.

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I love it. And music to me is like the

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best therapy and your music is a perfect example of

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that because you touch on pretty much every type of

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therapy that I think the whole world needs right now

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in twenty twenty four.

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Yeah, well, thank you. I hope it kind of helps people.

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That would be the ideal thing, and I think it

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does help people already. But this album is very personal

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once again and picks up many different mental health issues.

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So yeah, it is therapy. It was therapy for me

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as well.

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Well that's the key too, isn't it. It's like it's

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the therapy for the artists. But then people put their

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own meaning to it, you know, and like I'm even

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big into There's certain things that just hit you, like

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it's funny. We're talking about metalcore and people changing, like

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who's getting the most flat nowadays? For changing? Bring me

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to Horizon, and to me, I think they're brilliant and

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funny because I wasn't the old school, and that's why

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I'm not gatekeeper ish with them. It's like, yeah, you know,

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I started listening to them. I think that's simpaternal, you know,

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And then I went to the back catalog and I

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like that. But I can appreciate other things too, And

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I really appreciate when Ali interview once said, why do

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I want to make the same song over and over

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and game?

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Oh my god. Absolutely. I already have to struggle with

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myself because you, first of all, you tour and you

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sing the same songs over and over again, and I

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think art is exactly that movement. And I don't. I

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don't think that copying the same hung over and over

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again is art. I think that's just capitalism and being

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in a I don't know, just reproducing the same product

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because it sells, Like, what's the point of that. I'm

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doing this to have fun? And having fun to me

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is not repeating the same thing if it's fun for you,

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I don't judge, but that's why I really love this band,

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and I've also joined Bringing the Rise and as a

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fan when with Separatnal didn't even listen to the older stuff,

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and I followed them since then and still I really

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got inspired by them. And I think they opened the

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door for a lot of artists to be braver and

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to to yeah, to do some things out of the box.

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And they got lots of shit for that, but to

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be honest, they also got almost most famous for that.

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So that is saying And here's what the way I

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look at it is, you as an artist need to evolve, like, yeah,

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exactly why of being an artist, I say this all

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the time is experimenting, you know, not lugging in a

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stupid form you love what it's supposed to be. But

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being creative. To me, being creative is doing that experimenting

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and going outside your normal every day what you would do.

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Yeah, I think so as well. I once compared it

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to cooking. For example, I think a great cook it's

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not somebody who cooks the Samuel over and over again,

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but who will try new spices in between. And that's

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what makes dishes very very cool or very very bad.

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That's always the risk.

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How you find no experiment, you know. And I remember

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I've said this a few times in their reviews recently.

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I remember when I started playing guitar as a kid

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and my dad saying to me, you better give that

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up because you suck.

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I've talked about that stuff with many people something.

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Yeah, And what I was doing he didn't understand is

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I was just sitting there because I didn't know how

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to play yet, so I wanted to see what kind

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of sounds I could make, so fermenting and kind of

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try and find out. And to me, I think that's

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how you learn. It's like figuring things out. And yeah,

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like you said, you could try something and it may

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be terrible, but if you don't try, you don't know

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what you could come up with. And sometimes the best

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riffs and the best lyrics come from mistakes, you know,

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from permount and the mistakes that happened, you know.

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Mm hmmmm hmm. I also like also with this album,

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I haven't received a bunch of feedback yet because it's

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not out, but it's always a bit scary because you

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don't know what you cooked up in your kitchen. Maybe

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that day you're very like happy about it and excited,

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You're like yeah, and the next day you taste it,

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you're like, what the hell was up with me there?

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And that's the same with this album because it was

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created in a in a mess like time mess. I

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was under much pressure, but I just kind of threw

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everything out ahead in my hat. There was not much

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time to change things. To be honest, they have to

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be Yeah, they had to stay like this because of

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time issues, and it is kind of risky to try

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out things while having a time limit.

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Yea.

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But I didn't want to just be safe and write

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save songs because that is just not that's just not

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what I want to be, what we like, and that's

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some of our future policy is about. And yeah, I

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always take a risk rather than doing boring stuff. And

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with this album, I had a few moments when I

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was like was that too much? Also just today, just today,

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this night, I received the final we received the final

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music video that we've shot, and it was one of

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these moments again where I looked at it and I

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was like I love it and I hate it. It's

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such a such a weird feeling. It's like it's way

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too much, but I love it, and everyone might hate it,

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and I wonder when the moment will happen when everyone

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will be like, what the hell are you creating? Like

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why are you doing this? It's it's not cool, And

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I think that's just the risk you take for.

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And either that or like all artists, you're your own

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worst critic and then you look at things that nobody

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will even notice.

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Also that that's true. I've struggled with that as well,

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especially like performance wise, but I try. I once learned

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or heard the great saying that you are either the

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creator or the editor, and the editor is the person

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I will correct everything. And I do that with songwriting

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because I noticed and learned that you have to get

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everything out when you want to be creative. There are

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no limits and there's no judgment. Also with learning guitar

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or anything, there's no judgment in that zone, and that's

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I think when you create the best things. And I

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always really really try to let that creator out of

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me as much as I can, and then later on

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activate that editor. And my editor is quite loud and strict,

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and we'll be like, what the hell's this? This all sucks,

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But still I think the balance of both of it

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is very important because I feel like many people you're.

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On You're so on point with that because like, okay,

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you're gonna laugh at this. I have one song that

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I wrote and I collabed with two of my friends

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and I went to my Initially I went to my friend.

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I'm a I'm also like a speaker and published author,

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so I came to him with this song. It wasn't

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a song, it was a book. Okay, oh wow, because

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I'm like being a book author. I'm like writing this

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book and like you said, I'm just putting everything out

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that's in my head. And he just looked at He's like,

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what the hell is this? We need to like shortness.

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So he starts, it's so funny, you could probably relate

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to this. He starts saying, what can we take out

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of there? Well? Nothing, it's all important.

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Yeah, it's like the people. You're like the creator and

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the editor as people.

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Yeah, and so he's like trying to take stuff out.

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He's like, well how about this, No, that's important, And

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eventually I just had to let go and Okay, you

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do your thing and you make it into a song.

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Oh yeah, and that's what ended up happening, But first

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I was like, no, we can't take that out. No,

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we can't even take one word out.

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Yeah. I kind of relate to that a lot, because

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I think you do have to have this balance inside

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of you and they both have to work together. And

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when we're in the studio, that's when the producers will join,

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of course and tell what they think. And they had

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their moments when they were like what is this? What

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have you done there? And then I will like talk

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a lot about them, like, oh, this has to sound

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like this and this is very important. We cannot take

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this out and they're like, well, isn't that necessary because

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it doesn't sound cool at all, and we still want

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to make a cool sounding song, you know. And there

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are discussions like that. But we got to learn how

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to work with each other and trust each other because

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we've been working three albums with the same producers now,

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so you kind of get to know each other and

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learn to trust each other. Let go. So they learned that, Okay,

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maybe if Maria has a vocal idea, we trust her

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because it worked well, and I trust them when they

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tell me this does not work, like, not at all,

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not even if I think it's very very important. There

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has to be like a middle way where both people

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both people are happy.

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Yeah, totally, And I have to say, I think one

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of the most important things I got out of what

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you did with this album was Okay, so you are

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an ultimate metal badass because you sang this entire album

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with a route infection, Like whoah does that and do that?

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Well, I don't think I'm that badass for never thank you.

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The worst thing was that I had the surgery in December,

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on December thirty, so one day before New Year's Eve,

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so my jaw was like locked for weeks, and right

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after that, I got the root Kundel infection, so I

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was non stop having pain and being on antibiotics while

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being mentally very very on my limits because we just

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finished our headline tour where I had like vocal issues,

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mental health issues, and it all came at once, as

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it always does in life, of course always there's no

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other way around, and so we had to delay the

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entire studio stay and it was all just so stressful

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and it's yeah, it was just very stressful, but I

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just had to go through that. You have to push

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through if you really want something, and I'm so happy

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it worked. I'm very happy it worked. I was like praying,

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like please, can I please move again? And yeah, that

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was a pain.

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Well, I have total respect for you for that, because

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I'll tell you a funny story. I was going to

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cover a festival near home one day and I had

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to get a dentists first because I had a problem

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with one of my teeth. And the dentist says, Okay,

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we're gonna have to pull the tooth. Oh like, well,

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how long does it take because I have to be

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over at the fair grounds in like forty five minutes.

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Oh my god, Like no, yeah, that's not gonna happen.

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I'm like, so, I said, you're ready for this. I went,

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how about if we didn't use any novacane or anything.

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He goes, well, then you can get it done in

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forty five minutes. But you're not gonna want to do that,

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and I'm like, oh my god, I did. I was like,

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do it. I was like, now, you're like immortal, and

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so here's the funniest part. Okay, he did pull it.

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I was okay, and he's like, here here's some tiling

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all three for when you know you start feeling it

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I'm like, I don't need that. He's like, take it.

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If you don't take it, you don't take it, but

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take it with you. You're gonna need it. And so

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I went out to the car and now it's like

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fifteen minutes after and it hit me before I even

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drove off. It hit me, and I wanted to freaking die.

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Yeah, I can absolutely right, And.

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I popped those tiny and oles real quick.

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Oh my god. Yeah, it was actually I cannot understand

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how that would hurt because I didn't know how much

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teeth can hurt. I was absolutely underestimating that because it

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was happening on tour already. It was moving a tiny

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bit and my my wisdom, teeth are so crooked, like

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they go. I don't know, because for me, the pain

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was way worse before the surgery because it was pushing

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against my tooth like my other tooth, and it was

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hitting a nerve, so my entire half of the face

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it was like it was like instantly, like every second

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running against the wall with as much speed as I

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could and I couldn't take it, like I had to

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have ice cubes every second. And then when I went

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to the emergency thing, I was like please can you

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just pull it out? No, nothing, like, I don't care,

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just do it with your hands. I'm going to do

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it myself. I was ready to get this, like I

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was on my limits, I think, don't I didn't even

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ever have that much pain, really, and I've had some pain,

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but this was very intense and I hated it. And

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I still have to get three removed. But I'm not

457
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.839
scared because I think it was the worst when it

458
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.440
got infected, Like, yeah, I couldn't eat for a week

459
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:38.440
before and then not.

460
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.200
Oh that was And that's why I think you're bad ass,

461
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.559
because to sing like that, like what you have to

462
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.799
do to sing, would make it even worse.

463
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.759
Yeah, it was mostly the jaw that afterwards made some

464
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.759
issues because your jaw will close up when it feels

465
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.319
like something is wrong. And I could like do this

466
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.799
and you for singing, you have to go, like really,

467
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.039
but I'm happy.

468
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:03.119
Yeah.

469
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:05.200
I had to. We had to. We had to watch out.

470
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.519
In the first week, we were like, so we only

471
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.480
do the most important things, guitars, everything first. We're going

472
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.400
to finish everything that's not singing first, so I have

473
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.079
more time to heal and the antibiotics to work and

474
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.240
that way it worked, but I had to take some

475
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:25.000
breaks in between cool my Jahn and yeah.

476
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:29.400
Well it was definitely worthwhile because everything I've heard on

477
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:34.720
this new record is absolutely amazing and everybody has to

478
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.880
check it out. Distortion. I love the name of it

479
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.119
too because it just says metal right there. It does.

480
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.680
And uh, why don't you tell everybody how they can

481
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.119
reach out to you guys on socials on the web,

482
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.200
how they can you know, get the new album, save it,

483
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.240
buy your merch Wait, let me turn the right way,

484
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:57.720
buy your merch in your merch store.

485
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:00.519
Yeah, all that stuff we do. We have our own

486
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:05.359
merch stores. Well it's futurepalast dot com. And yeah, there's

487
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.359
gonna be a new single out next week, so I'm

488
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.920
very excited for that and go see us live also

489
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:16.119
hopefully also when we come over, which is maybe just

490
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:17.000
a question of time.

491
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:18.279
Nice.

492
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.480
Yeah, pre order now, you can already pre order it?

493
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.480
And where can they pre order it? Can they preorder

494
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.759
it on your site? Do they go your socials? What?

495
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.880
You can go to our socials or Instagram And we

496
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.240
do have a link tree there which you can click

497
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.519
on and there are many different options. You can also

498
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.640
get tickets everything and there's also one pre order button.

499
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.599
I think that's easiest. Or you go on our website

500
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.640
Futurepalas dot com, futureminus Palas dot com and then you

501
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.559
can check stuff out that would be great to call

502
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.799
us TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff.

503
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.880
I think a lot of people relate to your music

504
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.039
because all the subjects you're talking about from anywhere from

505
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:01.400
ADHD to depression to narcissism, all things that are so

506
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.599
rampant in the world right now, even in our own

507
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.400
presidential election over here.

508
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.440
Absolutely, yes, you.

509
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:15.240
Know, and so man, your music kind of came at

510
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.039
a better time because this whole world needs some healing

511
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:18.920
for sure.

512
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.599
Yes, I'm actually surprised because you always write songs earlier,

513
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.359
and especially for example, the Echoes of Disparity, I think

514
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.960
is even more needed than it was before because it

515
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.960
gets worse and worse everywhere, and this message needs to

516
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.720
be spread. And also the one song they take what

517
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.759
they want exactly about narcissism, about distorted that's where it

518
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.640
comes from, a distorted mind of someone who's obsessed with power,

519
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:46.319
and yeah, all that stuff. So I think it is

520
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.680
very needed as well, and I'm very happy about the

521
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.559
timing for it to be released, and I hope it

522
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:52.599
might reach some people.

523
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.079
And what a great message for women too, because where

524
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.039
I live in Florida, I think some of the women

525
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:03.319
are insane because they all love the red guy.

526
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.400
Oh oh no, yeah.

527
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.279
Yeah, And I'm like, how do you how like like

528
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:16.839
they like worship him like a cult, and some of

529
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:21.359
them are against somebody else who they should be for.

530
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.400
That is the same. Actually, in Germany, we do have

531
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:28.079
a party that is also partly trying to make women

532
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.079
rights go again, like leave again. They want to ban abortion,

533
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.519
they want they want the ideal world back that's been

534
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:40.200
in like nineteen not sixties, about that when the women

535
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.200
couldn't work and all that stuff and or just the

536
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.680
man does it and the woman's only job is to

537
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.599
get pregnant and get children. And that party in Germany

538
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.279
had many, many, many increases of votes in the recent votes.

539
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.240
And I'm very happy, and I say that on every stage, right,

540
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.279
I prefer saying that song that it is a very

541
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.519
current topic because we received some comments on the video

542
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.599
like what the hell is she complaining about? She has

543
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.359
all the rights and all the stuff. Also, just because

544
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.319
I have rights doesn't mean that the entire world is equal,

545
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:14.039
and it is always the world can always change, and

546
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.640
there's always people with different opinions than you. So it

547
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.160
is important to support that and to speak out and

548
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.079
explain to people why that would be shit for women,

549
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.000
for example, why it's not good for them. And I think,

550
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.599
I don't understand women that vote for these kind of

551
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:30.400
parties and.

552
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.920
It blows my mind, Like I get like some of

553
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.920
these women I know here in Florida, the stuff they say,

554
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.000
I'm just like that is the weirdest thing that you

555
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.599
would be talking that way as a woman.

556
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.680
Yeah, I don't got it. Maybe there's all some distorted

557
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.160
stuff going on in their mind, because that's what I

558
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.480
say with this album. Distortion comes from mental illness usually

559
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.000
and they have not really been in that topic in

560
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.359
your life much and just push it away. You will

561
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.319
never understand what is real, What are your real thoughts,

562
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.279
and what are the distorted thoughts? And lots of thoughts

563
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:13.160
and opinions are not your own, but there maybe from

564
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.759
someone else you picked up, or because maybe you're likable

565
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.759
to be manipulated, or because of some distorted things in

566
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.960
your brain that you don't understand, maybe some fears you

567
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.799
don't understand or it could be so much like when

568
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.680
I do have depression, there are like the thoughts I

569
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.200
have are not the reality, and that's what I want

570
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.839
people to understand with this album. Also that a lot

571
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.039
of thoughts you have don't have to be the reality

572
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.000
and don't have to be true. And the more reflected

573
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.759
you are as a person and question yourself, I think,

574
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.519
the better decisions you make because you always have to

575
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.519
stay open minded and question yourself and talk to each other.

576
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:52.640
And I think the worst thing that's happening in the

577
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.880
world is when people stop talking and just stay on

578
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.440
their sides and think they are right and the other

579
00:31:58.920 --> 00:31:59.640
people aren't.

580
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.160
I hate that. I don't like being labeled at something,

581
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.000
and I don't like that I have to be put

582
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.839
in that box. And we're falling for the oldest trick

583
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.480
in the book, divide and conquer. Like like, I think,

584
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.440
the only way you could even know your own side,

585
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.880
it's also studying the other side. You can't just listen

586
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.759
to one side of things and really to me form

587
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.920
a fair opinion. So if somebody says to me they

588
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:31.039
evaluate both sides and they still have this opinion, okay,

589
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.680
then at least you made an evaluation based on your

590
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.039
life and not based on just only listening to one side.

591
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.519
Absolutely, you always have to question yourself, why do I

592
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:46.000
want something? What's the real reason for that? And oftentimes

593
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.119
you can take that phrase for your life. Oftentimes you

594
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.240
don't really want something. There's many things that influence that.

595
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.799
Oftentimes it's fear. Fears, I think the biggest manipulator of us,

596
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.119
of everyone, and I think almost yeah, and I think

597
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.440
a lot of maybe almost all wrong decisions we do

598
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.559
are made out of fear and oftentimes a distorted fear

599
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.720
that is not even real. So when you go back

600
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:17.039
to history, you know, as you said, you're you're you're Jew.

601
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.960
And also in history, stupid ass people thought like, oh

602
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.839
they bring like the illness and know they were cleaner

603
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.440
than you. Smart hat you know. But that with with

604
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.720
the past. I don't even know what it's called in English,

605
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.079
but it's also fear once again, and the fear of

606
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.720
the different, and fear is just so stupid. I mean,

607
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:40.160
it does have relevance to survive and stuff like that,

608
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.400
but I think fear is triggered too easily and distorted.

609
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.359
How dictators influence people by using fear.

610
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.920
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because fear is so easy as as

611
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.880
just as I said, to manipulate people.

612
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.480
And I think those people, those dictator are more fearful

613
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.960
than anybody because they have the fear of not having

614
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:04.440
the power.

615
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.759
Absolutely, because they feel like they're no one without the power.

616
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.360
And I think, yeah, that is a huge topic. That's

617
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.920
also what that one song they take what they want

618
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.599
is what it's about. I take what I want and

619
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.239
not what I need, And that's that's exactly what it is, like,

620
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.719
why would you take more than you need? And why

621
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.840
would you make people suffer for something that's in your

622
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.159
mind that's not even important. That's yeah, it is so

623
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.960
weird to me that people can think that way. But

624
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.840
I think, once again, it must be some the reason

625
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.280
must be some distorted mental illness thing that they cannot

626
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.440
reflect or don't want to reflect.

627
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.320
And that's what people appeal to to try to get

628
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.920
them to think that way. They like the narcissist. What's

629
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.320
the narcissist too? It's fine your weaknesses and exploit them,

630
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.159
you know, and that that's the point. So I mean,

631
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.519
but thankfully, you know, people say, well, artists should just

632
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.719
stick to music, and I totally disagree. Thank god we

633
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.480
have people like you that are spreading a positive message

634
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:15.400
or using that stage and using that music to spread

635
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.880
a positive message so that we could change this world

636
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.920
for the better. And I don't know why why people

637
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.199
think artists aren't entitled to their own feelings and opinions either.

638
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.280
Yeah, you know, I think isn't that exactly what art

639
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.239
is about. It's exactly about talking about your emotions, and

640
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.000
of course your emotions are influenced by the world you

641
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.440
live in. I mean, I think that just makes sense.

642
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:43.440
You cannot even really divide that. It doesn't really work.

643
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.280
It just depends on how you present it and how

644
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.440
you how you present it. I think every art has

645
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.679
some influence of that, it's just not as obvious for everyone.

646
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.800
That's right. Well, thank you for making this album and

647
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.639
all kinds of great met music. And everybody's got to

648
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:04.960
go out and check out the new music, check out

649
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:06.840
all your merch because it's the only way you guys

650
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:11.039
survive is merch nowadays. And that's why I have it

651
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.719
back there. Thanks so everybody can go check it out.

652
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.519
And thank you for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

653
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:19.639
Thank you, it was very nice talking to you.

654
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:25.480
Thank you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin on

655
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.880
w for Cui Radio.