Sept. 7, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews Manuel Barbará

Manuel Barbará GUITARIST & COMPOSER, PROGRESSIVE MUSIC

EP Whisper in a Storm in September 2024.

A Different Horizon (feat. Jake Howsam Lowe)
Dead Hand (feat. Jody Miller)

Aphelion (feat. Michael Nystrom Bala)

Whisper in a Storm (feat. Thalia...

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Manuel Barbará GUITARIST & COMPOSER, PROGRESSIVE MUSIC

EP Whisper in a Storm in September 2024.

A Different Horizon (feat. Jake Howsam Lowe)
Dead Hand (feat. Jody Miller)

Aphelion (feat. Michael Nystrom Bala)

Whisper in a Storm (feat. Thalia Tymowski & Millisa Henderson)

Whisper in a Storm (instrumental)


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Hi, you have done to censure for Wow, crazy young.

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It's time for the Adventures of whipe Man on W

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Internet radio station. Here's your host, the white Man.

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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures white

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I have our

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next guest who is man what amazing musician and has

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some great music. I love when you can find somebody

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that really, you know, is into the art of the

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musicianship itself, and that's who we have here. And now,

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hopefully I won't Butcher's name because I totally forgot to

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ask before the interview and I hate doing that, so

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I'm going to say Manuel Barbara close.

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But you know my name has been butchered in more

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ways than you could possibly imagine, so I appreciate the effort.

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Right, I came close, like the American probably couldn't even

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say it the right way if I tried twenty times.

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I'm sure you get it eventually.

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No doubt. So when did this all start? Like when

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did you find your passion for guitar playing and musicianship

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in general?

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You know that's maybe a slightly unusual story because I

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kind of didn't really care much about music until I

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was maybe seventeen, sixteen, seventeen, and I only started playing

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the guitar at around seventeen eighteen, so like late high school.

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Throughout high school, I started.

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Getting really I had some friends who got me really

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into Iron Maiden and Pink Floyd, just classic rock and metal,

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and one of them played the guitar, and I was like,

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I want to do that, So I picked up the

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guitar started playing. I immediately got way into it, you know,

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five six hours a day practice kind of way into it.

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And I managed to get.

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Into music school after what a year and a half

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of playing the guitar, which, wow, probably says more about

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the psychotic amounts of practice.

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Than about anything else.

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That's why take Yeah, yeah, it does. I mean it

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takes it does take time. So I felt for a

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lot of my college time that I was kind of

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behind just because I hadn't done this since I was

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a kid, and a lot of the people who I

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was interacting with were like, hey, I don't even remember

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when I first started playing the drums or whatever it was,

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So I feel.

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Like now I am way more.

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I guess mature is the word as an artist than

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I was back then, but which is you know kind of.

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I feel like this last ep is the best thing

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I've done basically ever so far because of.

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That, and let's hope so right, because as you continue

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to make music, we should hope that gets better and

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better at least for ourselves. Well, we're proud of you know,

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because as a musician, you're your own worst critic.

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Yeah, tell me about it.

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So that's pretty wild. He started so late, and you

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are like, I mean, amazing at the guitar. Like me,

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I started on drums I was a little kid, and

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then I wasn't good at that, and then I went

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to guitar and my you know, lack of better way

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of playing it, idol at that time was and still

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I think is one of the greatest guitars ever was

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Randy Rhodes. Yeah, and I remember reading that he practiced

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eight hours a day. So to your point, that's what

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it takes. And I was like, I don't think I

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have eight hours a day to learn how to play guitar.

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Yeah, you have that when you're when you're fifteen, and

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you don't have that at any other point in your life.

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I think I know right exactly. So you know, it

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is pretty amazing that you put that kind of work

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into it at a time in your life, probably where

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you had to put a lot of work in other

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places as well.

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True, But one thing I will say is that as

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I have, as I have grown, I think I've learned

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to practice a lot more efficiently. So I don't think

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I need five hours to get a good practice session

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in anymore. But especially when you're starting out, it's just, uh.

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There's no like.

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Easing into like what the further that what I built

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my calluses, I was like, I want to play fast,

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So I just started playing a like a like video

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riff for hours until my fingers started bleeding. And I

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was like, I don't have problems with pain anymore. I

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guess I'm just that kind of person. I dive in

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until it hurts, and then I it doesn't hurt anymore.

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Well, there you are. You're natural for playing guitar for sure.

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when and like like yourself, they are just so proficient.

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And also I gotta tell you that I love the

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spin because I don't think it's a spin and I'll say,

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why have metal and classical and progressive? Because I've always

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said for years that people don't understand metal music comes

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from classical music. It's a derivative of so to me,

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it's just normal what you're doing.

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don't know if I.

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think it's like the closest that the pop tradition gets

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to be in classical music. And I think a lot

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of people when they hear oh it's metal and classical,

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they're like, oh, ingva Elmstein or oh it's night wish

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you you know, made a metal song and put some

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strings on top of it.

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And that's not what I do.

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I'm trained in traditional composition, especially like modern stuff like

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when you know the composer started getting real weird with it.

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And I love it, and I think there's a lot

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to be learned harmonically in terms of song structure, in

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terms of just the way you're thinking about putting together

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piece of music from that tradition.

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So what would you say is the difference, you know,

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basically in how you do it or how you learn

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from you who is classically trained to somebody that just

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picks up the guitar and just starts playing.

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There's no wrong or right way to do it. And

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I'm not classically trained in guitar at all. I'm classically

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trained in composition, which is a very different thing. But

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there's no right wrong way to do it. It's just

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a When you learn to write music in a more

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traditional sense, you learn a lot about thematic development. You

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learn all these ways to play with notes that you

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might not come up with if you were just and

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people do you know, like God, the periphery guys come

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up with this stuff all the time, just kind of intuitively.

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But for me, I'm a very rational.

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Analytical kind of person, and I I don't think I

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would have gotten to a lot of the choices that

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I do make when I write without that training. So

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I think it just boils down to how you need

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to internalize these ideas.

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There you go, and so tell us about the EP

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Whisper in a Storm, and you have guests I'm pretty

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much every song, which I think that's pretty cool. So

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tell us a little bit about it, and you know

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a little bit about what made you bring each guest

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for that specific song.

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Yeah, So it's four songs.

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It's, as you mentioned, there's a guest on each song,

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which was something I wanted to do. I don't remember

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exactly where in the process I came up with that idea,

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but I thought it would be cool to just feature

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a different person on each song. And so the first one,

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dead Hand. I actually think that was the last guest

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that I chose. But I was like, I've got guitar

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all over the place, what if I did not guitar?

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And I know this wild proggy bluegrass violin is named

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Jody Miller, and so I got this wild proggy bluegrass

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violin solo and all kinds of you know, creepy horror

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movie violin sounds, and they fit so well on that song,

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better than I expected. Then the second one, Different Horizon.

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It's Jake Low of Plenty, who I take lessons with occasionally,

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and a super cool dude, and I just thought that

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the feel of the song would really fit his playing.

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Love I've loved Jake's playing since I first heard of

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Felix Nebula ages ago. But it's really frantic, and Jake

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has this really cool habit of taking really frantic things

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and then playing solos that make them feel a lot

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cooler than they are over top of them.

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Third song.

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Third song is a different horizon and it features my

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dear friend Mike Bala, who plays in the death metal

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band that I play in, uh Ex Mortis, And that's

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the most like traditional song of the of the lot

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quotation marks because it's just kind of a four riff

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headbang and four riff that gets kind of messed up as.

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It goes along.

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It's funny because I played a really shreddy solo Mike's

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the Mike's the shreddy guy in in ecronomic on but

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I ended up playing a really shreddy solo and Mike

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ended up playing a really melodic solo, and there's some

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wild shread toward the end of it. But it's just funny,

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kind of the role reversal. But I love playing things

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with Mike. I like solos on the same song with

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Mike because we're super different, but we do have some

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shared interests.

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And the last song, the last song I Want.

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I've been wanting to do vocals on something for a

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while and Thalia. I worked with Alia a bunch in college,

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Sally Tamowski, and I'd always wanted to get her on something,

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and I was like, this this song, this is the

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song that needs vocals. So we worked for months to

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get the vocals written and recorded, and I just love

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her voice and how it works in this song. And

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then I got I actually worked with those two guests

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on that song quite a lot together, Thalia and Melissa Henderson,

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who very very melodic player, very.

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Kind of intervals inspired.

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It boils down to I just love how these people play,

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and I thought they would fit very well in these songs.

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See that's the coolest part right there. Like, I think

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that's part of it. You have to love how somebody

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plays to play with them, and you know, to really

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you know, have the passion. I did really really dig

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the violin for sure. Yeah, it's cool.

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Cool.

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So how do you feel like the difference when you're

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playing your music on say this album, compared to playing

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death metal.

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Oh, it's quite different death metal. I mean.

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So the joke we have in Necronomic on is that

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because I don't write anything for Mecerano, Actually that's not true.

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I do write some of the more cinematic interludes, but

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those have almost no guitar in them, but they're both

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very difficult music. It's just that Necronomicon is difficult because

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it's two hundred plus beats per minute and mostly sixteenth notes,

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and my right hand gets tired pretty quickly these days.

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And this stuff is difficult because it's it's complex, it's

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strange rhythms, a lot of interval, like you know, big

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stretches and stuff, and you need to be very kind

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of focused and very on top of your game to

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play it well. For both of them, you need to

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be on top of your game. But it's it's it's

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one of them is like it's a just work out,

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the other one is a musician workout.

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There you go makes any kind of sense.

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It does make sense to me at least. So how

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do people reach out to you on socials? On the

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web check out your music, your merch everything.

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Yeah, yeah, so I've got I've got a website.

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It's it's been about about dot com that has links

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to all of it on it on most of the

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social media.

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I'm at eight String Alchemy.

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So I'm on Instagram, I'm on TikTok, I'm on YouTube

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under eight string Alchemy.

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to get some of that done hopefully soon we will see,

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but whenever that happens, it'll probably be up on my band.

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Camp, which.

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Is, uh, what's the link again, It's it's it's on

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my web psyche, go go find it there.

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That's easiest. Yeah.

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So is there anything else you want the listeners to

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know that you have coming up, or anything that we

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Yeah, well, I mean we've got necronomicns always doing stuff,

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so go check us out there in necronomic on ex Mortis.

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I think I forgot to mention. All of my stuff

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is available on all the streaming services, so go go

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listen to that.

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But I've got.

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My current goal is I want to start putting out

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one release a year nice, which might be an ambitious goal,

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but we'll see. So I've already got about eight songs

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that are in various stages of being done, so maybe

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next summer there.

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I love it, and I hope to see a lot

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more because you are definitely badass for sure. And thanks

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giving us such great music, and thanks for being on

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the Adventures of Pinpe many.

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Thanks for having me.

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