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say it about our next guest, who

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has some killer new music for a
very good reason, especially during this month.

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But I think every month matters,
not just one month. So let's

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welcome to the show. Sammy Lee
from Red Rain. How are you?

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I'm fine, Nan, thanks for
having me. Hey, my pleasure.

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So, yeah, what I was
referring to is you got the second single

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out here, I Am, from
the forthcoming album Don't Look Back that'll be

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due out October twenty seventh through Deco
Entertainment. But this song here, I

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think hits home for a lot of
people, especially in twenty twenty four because

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you know, here we are in
May mental Health Awareness Month and this song

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fits right in with that theme.
It certainly does. Thank you. Yeah.

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Basically, when the song was written, it was due I'm sorry.

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It was written over the period of
COVID. Obviously, when everybody was,

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you know, sort of having some
breakdown as far as you know, not

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socializing and being isolated. And there's
also other people who have mental uh sort

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of mental issues or disabilities that you
know that that that they think the only

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way out is the one way out, which I don't like to say the

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word, and and that's just not
true. We feel like there's if somebody

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would just take time to reach out
to their friend or reach out to somebody

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and just talk. And of course
I'm not in that space, so I've

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never been to that level, but
we we would hope that somebody would just

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reach out and and not take the
unfortunate path that unfortunately a lot of people

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take. Yeah, and unfortunately,
you know, not only reach out,

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but other people listen and pay attention, because sometimes when people are reaching out,

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it's not that it's not that in
your face. You know, you

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have to really be paying attention,
and some people just it doesn't even cross

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their minds, not even a matter
of you know, they're not caring.

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They just they're not picking up the
clues, absolutely absolutely, and you know,

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for and again, uh, luckily
for me personally, I don't think

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I've ever fallen to that depth mentally. But and so I don't know when

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somebody falls into a sort of a
downward spiral. I'm not good at reading

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clues either, so you know,
you don't want to put it on them

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and say, hey, you know, it's up to you to reach out.

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But if I think if somebody could
realize that there are people who care

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about them and understand that they care
about them and be willing to help,

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because again can't always read the clues, that's what the song's about. So

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that's why it says, here I
am. You know, just look over

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your shoulder and here I am exactly. And you know a lot of people

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that are in that dark spot they
don't realize that here I am type of

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thing they exactly. They think they're
all alone in the world, you know,

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and nobody would understand. And you
know, then there's the other side

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of it is that you know,
and you probably go through. We all

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go through where people look at our
lives, whether it be on social media

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or what we present to people,
and they think that's representative of everything.

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So they think everything's okay because somebody
doesn't wear their heart on their sleeve or

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share everything or puts on a good
game face, and especially especially in music.

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Okay, so we've had lost a
lot of great musicians even recently.

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It's been a big thing. And
people look at them like, oh,

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what a great life they have.
Look at their life. They're living a

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dream life, and sometimes that dream
is a nightmare. Sure, sure I

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have a feeling and again not personally
speaking, but you know, I guess

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sometimes people feel trapped or they feel
that there's no way out. Yeah,

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and that's sad to me. It
just really is, because you know,

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everybody in this world is important.
I don't care what walk of life you

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are. You know, everybody has
a purpose, everybody has a point of

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view, everybody has likes dislikes,
and and also you know, and believe

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it or not, some people don't
feel like they're liked or there, or

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they're in this crowd or that crowd, but they are, you know.

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And I just I just hope and
wish that people who have fallen again to

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those depths would just again, I
don't want to put it on them,

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but if they could just find a
way to reach out and say, hey,

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you know, I'm feeling this way. I just feel I feel like

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and again, this is all personal
because I'm not there, but I feel

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like there would be not one,
not two, but ten people who would

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be willing to help or be there
to listen or be there to do it.

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So that's what the song is based
on, and it's it's it's a

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great song, of course I'm going
to say that, but but I think

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if people, if people really listen
to it, I think they'll like it

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and they get the message. And
that's the beautiful thing about your song too,

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is that for those people, which
is a lot of them, that

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think nobody's there for them, this
is sending them a message hopefully that those

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people are for them and and they
you know, here I am, you

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know, letting people know that what
prompted you to begin with to write a

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song like this, because it's a
very deep song. You know, it's

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a great song, but it's a
very song and especially you know a lot

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of times people write stuff like this
because of their own experiences. But as

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you've said a couple of times in
the interview here, like it's not that

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you're there, but the good thing
is that you understand the people that are

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well. So first of all,
let me truss that I don't know if

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I understand the people that are at
that depth. I think when you're when

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you're you know, it's always are
you inside looking outside or outside looking inside?

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I would say that I and I
think I speak for my bandmates.

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We are on the outside looking into
trying to say, hey, come on,

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just reach out to somebody. I
know it's not that easy, trust

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me that. As far as writing
the song, I don't do any of

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the writing. So I do.
I do a lot more of the business

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aspects. Bubba McMichael, who's the
lead singer and guitar player, does all

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does all the lyrics and and does
a lot of the uh and does a

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lot of the the writing. As
far as coming into to rehearsal and saying

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I've got this idea, and then
and then the other two two guys will

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jump in and really that that mix
will come into how the song goes,

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and I'll throw in something here there. I'm not I'm not very creative on

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that aspect. I mean, I'm
creative enough to add the drum parts and

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figure what I like and what fits. But I think what it was is

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a lot of the album. If
you listen to it, it's it's basically

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written over the period of COVID,
and I think Bubba was feeling certain things

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for not only himself but for other
people. And again we'll probably touch on

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this, but we also have a
song on the album called bury Me Up

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to My Eyes. That song is
also COVID driven. It was he wrote

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that song now that COVID was out
and everybody's wearing mask. It's now looking

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through life through the mask. You
know, remember we never read a wear

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asks. So so I think in
that time period where it was a dark

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time period for everybody, not just
people who were already in that state of

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mind, but you know, everybody
was isolated and we couldn't go out and

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we couldn't do the things we want
to do. And so a lot of

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that has come from his experience of
just being I think isolated and a lot

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of there's a lot of darkness that
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little. But some good does come
from, you know, some bad things

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as well. The good for us, and when I say good, obviously

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it's not good good. But the
good for us was it did let us

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slow down to actually write a full
length album. You know, it's so

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funny you should say that because I've
been saying in so many interviews since COVID.

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Glan just one yesterday is that if
you can't pull the one positive out

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of COVID, especially for an artist
specifically, is artists have been on such

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a hamster wheel for so long that
they really can't sit down write an album.

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They can't get creative. They got
deadlines that like, let's just put

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this out because we gotta get done, opposed to really like clean out what

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you really want as the artists.
And I think it gave artists a chance

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to jump off that hamster wheel and
get creative again, something that I think

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a lot of them forgot what that
was even like. And and now they've

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changed their lifestyle as a musician,
you know, in their career to go

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back to what they used to do. That they forgot that that's what they

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used to doing, and that creates
a great album like this one. Yeah,

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thank you, thank you for that. And yeah, I think that

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is true, you know. I
mean, like my favorite bands that I

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listened to younger, I would read
they'd be on tour for eight nine months,

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they'd be writing on the road.
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know, we weren't constantly on the
road so we didn't get a chance to

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write. But we would go do
two or three shows, we'd come back

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home and then it's like, oh, you know what, we have another

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in a month. Well, you
know we what we do is we actually

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rehearse our set for at least three
to four weeks prior to our show.

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So that didn't give you a chance
to write, you know. And so

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yeah, it did. Like,
and I've said this in other interviews,

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there there is no good that came
out of COVID. Let's let's just be

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honest. It was nasty, it's
you know, right, but if you

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can find that one little weed that
you call a flower, you know,

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right, that was it. That
time did slow down enough to be able

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for at least for a rock band
to sit down and write an album.

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Yeah. And then the other thing
is, to me, music some of

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the best therapy there is, both
for the artists and the listener, and

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that was what was taken away from
us in COVID. I think, you

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know, maybe they should have kept
live music because I think that's why we

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have more problems with mental anguish and
depression and suicide and anger and frustration now

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because of that couple years with without
live music. Of course there's other factors,

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but I think live music is our
escape. So if you don't have

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that escape, you know, then
what then you're stuck in your own thoughts

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that you know there is no escape
from. Unfortunately at that point in time,

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right, I agree, you know, I agree with you. You

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know. Luckily for me though,
I just throw on, you know,

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the music I like, and I
would just crank it up, and you

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know, you find a way to
keep yourself busy. I through COVID,

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I still worked because in my job
I was able to isolate everybody else,

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and so I was able to come
to work and in the building I'm in

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the building that my company's in is
where we rehearse. So I was still

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able to come in and sort of
bang out some drums and get some frustration

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out that way. But you know, after a while, after a while,

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it does get a little lonely when
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after day. But but yeah,
you're right, I think that you know,

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music and and just getting together in
festivals. Yeah, it's just it

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put people in a completely different mental
aspect than what we're used to. Yeah,

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you know, it's funny, you
mentioned the drums because I think of

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all instruments, that's probably the best
instrument to get your frustrations out on.

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It is. It is, I
can tell you it is. You know,

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I came home a couple couple of
nights, couple couple of bloody fingers

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because you just I mean, you
see this snare sitting in front of you,

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and it's like a golf ball.
If you ever play golf, you

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know, you get up to the
golf ball and you know that the theory

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of playing golf is to swing easy
and follow through, but you just want

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to kill that golf ball. I'd
like, happy gilmore Man. It's funny

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for the radio station, the last
of me to do these golf tournaments,

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and I do ask them, I'm
like, can I bring my hockey stick?

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Because I hate golf? Well,
you know, but you know what

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it's like. You got to have
that. You know, it's it's all

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these mechanics and you swing it.
And it's same thing with drums. But

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you know, you see this snare
head sitting in front of you, and

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you know, instead of playing like
this, you're bringing your hand all the

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way up and coming all the way
down. And I could relate because okay,

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so well, as a kid,
I played drums for nine years.

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I still sucked. But you know
part of that was for me. I

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didn't want to just do the you
know, I wanted to bang the hell

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out of those drums. It was
like the driving force of being the drummer

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to me. Well, and you
know, and that's not even good because

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you know that's why I never became
good. Well, listen, I'm not

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that great of a drummer either,
to be honest with you, because all

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I just want to hit things hard. But you know, you know,

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obviously you read articles and sound and
you don't want to hit it too hard

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because you know there's a lot that
goes in that too. But there's just

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some times that you're just like,
you know what, I'm gonna beat the

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hell out of you whether you like
it or not. You know, take

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it out on your kid, right, It's kind of like too, Like

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I was a big Ringo Star fan
when I was a kid, and you

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know, he always played with the
brushes. So I had to have these

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brushes. You know. I told
my dad like, I need these brushes,

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and then I get them. I'm
like, man, this is no

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fun. Give me the sticks back
boring, but such a great what a

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wonderful, great drummer though, that's
the problem. I mean, you said,

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right, yeah, amazing. So
what else do we want to tell

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the listeners to look out for for
this album? The album's out, but

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the way you so we did?
We did? Uh. We teamed up

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with Deco Entertainment. We were on
we're on that label. And if you

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go to Deco Entertainment, uh and
then slash red rain Band, you can

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get the album there CD there there's
some merchandise there as well. And if

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you want just to stream, we're
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Apple, We're on Google Music,
you know, every downloadable site. I

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don't know all of them, so
Amazon, Spotify, so and there's ways

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on your your backdrop, it's red
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media, and our website is redrainband
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outlets you'll be able to find the
music as well. Beautiful, Is there

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anything else you want to let the
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they need to know that's going on
with you guys. Well, so we

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just actually got off tour. We
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for ten days. Yeah, uh, and we just got off the road

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last week. So it's decompression time
because it was grueling. I mean we

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were here, here, here,
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city, it's here, and then
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then back here. So uh,
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fun. We ended up in Chicago, Illinois, which was great. We

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were very excited about that, and
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usually we after something like that,
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we usually take a week maybe two
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back at it. So we're working
on shows that we usually announce on our

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social media when it's time. So
that's the next move. How was it

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going on tour with Nazareth? Because
that that must be like a an oh

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wow moment. It really is,
you know, I'll be honest. We

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we've been lucky, we've we were
Our very first tour was with Tesla.

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Wow, I can shoot that,
and you know that's a wow moment too,

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because you know, you know,
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on MTV and Tesla was everywhere,
and you're like, oh, this is

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great, this is cool, That's
what I want to do. And then

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a blink of an eye and you're
standing on stage, you know, setting

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up your kid, and Troy Laketta
walks over and goes, hey, you

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know a nice drum kid, I'm
Troy, and you're like, this is

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like surreal, you know, it's
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with other bands as well. I
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a name dropper, but I'll give
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But we've been out with Docin and
Jackal and Winger and Slaughter and Why and

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Tea. We've been out with all
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Everybody's equal. But when you go
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who has probably one of the greatest
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love Hurts and Hair of the Dog, which everybody knows, I mean that's

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iconic. A is what I think
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and and and what makes it even
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bands that we play with is they're
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and they don't treat you, they
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treat you, and it's just it's
it's it's a great feeling. And Nazareth

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was very welcoming from day one as
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I'm so glad you said that because
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the iconic bands that have no clue
that they're icons and they're just the nicest

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people in the world. Yeah,
and you know, and you know,

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and I've read articles, you know, I try to. I just read

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a little bit and everybody's like,
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real Nazareth. It's not this well
you know what, you say, what

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you want. But they're touring under
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member and the other guys have been
in the band for years. But you

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know what, to me, it's
Nazareth because they were they were they sounded

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like Nazareth. I mean, you
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I mean when they opened with Miss
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favorite songs from Nazareth. It sounds
like it sounds like Nazareth, you know.

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Yeah, you know I hate when
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Maybe with a lot of bands.
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I am I have a fine line
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want the original members, you know, right, you know, I'm a

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Van Halen fan, so I want
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we now know isn't going to happen
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so I get that part of it. But with when when you have members

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who have unfortunately aren't here anymore,
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carry on that, I get it, you know, I understand that.

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I interviewed once the Grassroots m H
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with that because it's an original member, Okay, right right, you get

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that least exactly, and they can
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sounded like Nazareth. You know,
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van Hagar and Van Halen are like
two different, completely different bands, you

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know, and absolutely it's one of
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that way. You take Iron Maiden, Well, Bruce didn't sound that different

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from Deano in the beginning, so
it you know, And I'm a Paul

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Deano fan, and say, have
ac DC, how do you find somebody

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that's close to bond Scott And you
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I'm on team bond Scott. But
it doesn't mean I don't like team Brian

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Johnson either, so you know,
you're like both, but at least it

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has that familiarity to it, you
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saying about what happened with Nazareth.
Well yeah, and I mean, but

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they were you know, you know, it's you know, sometimes you get

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some of these bands that get like
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sound like the old singer. And
I get it, you know, not

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everybody, and I get that,
but the you know, the music's the

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same and it's changed. But I
mean I listen to Nazareth and it sounded

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point on Nazareth nice and you know
that's even better, and uh yeah,

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I mean, but listen, man, everybody's just trying to go out there

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and play some music, which is
awesome, and I think that's the greatest

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thing in the world because but you
know, you know, as well as

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I do everything subjective when it comes
to music, you know what I mean,

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and uh, you know what I
like, you're not gonna like,

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and so on and so on.
And that's the great thing about music.

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We can have a debate about that. It absolutely one. And your music

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is badass. So everybody that hasn't
has to check you out, has to

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get the new album, check out
future tour dates, buy your merch all

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that good stuff. And you know, thanks for giving us great music,

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and thanks for being on the Adventures
of Pipe Man. Well I appreciate it.

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Thanks for having me, and thanks
for helping us spread the word of

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the band. We need all the
help we can get it like everybody else

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and and I can't thank you enough. Hey, my pleasure anytime. Thank

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you. Thank you for listening to
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