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We have some killer music that I
think we kind of need nowadays with all

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the bull craft going on in the
world. We need to escape and this

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is it. So let's welcome to
the show to see of siege perils.

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How are you? I'm I'm I'm
I'm great, Thanks for having me.

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Hey, my pleasure and uh so, yeah, I'm referring to you know

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the new song you about new album
you got coming out, uh and basically

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the fact that you take us down
a journey, a much better journey than

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real life is right now and yeah, yeah you know and it and it

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gives us also like the newest single
is is like this thing about loyalty and

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brotherhood, which I'm all about,
and we've seen to lose that in the

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whole world, like they've gone crazy. Yeah, I mean that's always been

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my like my biggest kind of draw
to the genre of music. I mean,

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from the time I was a teenager
when I first kind of started experiencing

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old school heavy metal and power metal, like the escapist element, but then

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yeah, also the themes right,
like it seems about like courage, brotherhood,

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like all of these like super positive
things, and I really really like

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grasped onto that, and I'm really
excited to be able to, you know,

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contribute some of my own music and
most importantly like the music that my

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friends have helped make. I mean
this was primarily written by our guitarist.

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I did the you know, the
lyrics and things like that. But I

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love how much we work together,
especially when you're writing songs about brotherhood.

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It'd be weird if it was just
one guy. Yeah, And it would

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be weird if, like, you
know, there's bands out there that are

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really there together but they're not together. That would be weird too. It's

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just, yeah, it's something that
has to be real. Yeah. Yeah,

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I think about like you know,
like Fleetwood Mac, you know,

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and how they they played together for
years, but they would not talk to

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each other off stags, like,
oh how could you? I mean,

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I guess you could do it because
you're making a crazy amount of money.

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But but I think in terms of
the enjoyment of making it performing music,

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like I always have to be in
bands with my friends. I feel like

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that's a rule. Now I could
potentially join another band and become their friends

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and maybe not start out that way, but like I couldn't do that,

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like for the long term with people
who weren't like super close to me.

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I think the music also suffers when
you do that. So I agree with

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you a million percent. Number one, This industry is hard enough as it

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is. It's something that you have
to spend twenty four to seven with these

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people sometimes, so like life would
really suck if you're in this industry and

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it's not fun, because that's the
most redeeming feature of this industry. Yeah,

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some sometimes you know, even like
I love how fun our music is,

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sometimes even we have to take a
step back and go like, okay,

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okay, let's recenter ourselves a little
bit. This got a little not

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fun for a second. Let's step
back and make sure that we're and make

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sure that we're having fun, because
yeah, it's it's it's so much work.

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And even when your music is like
a little you know, kind of

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silly and fantastical, like, it's
still so much work into a part of

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you that you're throwing out there into
the world, and that not everybody has

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nice things to say. Yeah,
So making sure that like at the core

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that like you're having fun with it
is such an important part of that process.

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And and if at least you're having
nice things to say to each other,

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like, it's pretty bad when you
got all that negative crap going out

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in the world. And then it's
also within the band, yeah, and

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it like we definitely have a very
good working relationship with each other. I

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mean, I'm friends with all of
these guys out outside of the band,

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which is good. And for the
most part, they're all friends with each

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other outside of the band. Just
a couple of the guys didn't know each

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other outside of the band until like
they were both in the band together.

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So right, that's the real difference. Yeah, And so I think going

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back to what you were saying too
about you know, playing as somebody that

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would be in the audience. I
can totally tell if they're the band's not

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vibing, and it's it's a totally
different thing. Like it's totally different experience

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when you see these bands up there
that you know they don't like each other,

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they don't even want to be there, and they're just going through the

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motions. I want to be a
live show where the band is probably as

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much or more into it than I
am, because that means, especially a

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metal like, you gotta be a
metal head to play metal. Yeah,

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absolutely, Like nobody just like strolls
into this, especially like it's you know,

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and particularly in our subgenre, like
you've got to do it for the

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love of it, because there's there's
not a lot of money in it.

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There's there is a base of very
good dedicated fans, but there isn't so

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much money circulating in this genre that
there's like a crazy amount of people doing

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this as a full as like a
full time gig, and so like,

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if that's the thing you're pursuing,
power metal is not for you, But

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if you love the music like we
do, then then it's totally worth it.

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So I have a trivia question for
you. Oh crap, it's early

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but okay, yes, I know, right, Okay, So what band

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from the eighties was initially considered a
power metal band because their genre didn't even

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exist yet, initial considered a power
metal band and they weren't really power metal

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in my opinion, But I mean
one of the thoughts because Pantera had during

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their glam phase, had an album
called power metal, but it was not

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power metal, right, So that
was one thought. That was one thought

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that I had. I mean,
there's there's of course Halloween, who I

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think their first album came out in
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the genre. That's a tough one, right, yeah, because the only

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other ones I could think of are
ones that like you would like you wouldn't

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have in the eighties said it was
power metal, but you would today,

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which would be bands like man O
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at the time they were just heavy
metal, because you we didn't have all

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like the crazy sub genrefication that we
now granted a lot of forms that didn't

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exist, like metal, death metal
was still developing, black metal, things

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like that. Yeah, it'll blow
your mind. Actually, are are you

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gonna say like genesiss? No,
no, no, But but that would

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probably blow your mind. Okay,
So I was at this gig of this

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band that was our first gig ever
in ol A, and the guitarists of

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the band came up to me after
the gig, you know, because it's

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the way it was in o A
back then. You hung out with the

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band afterwards, went walked up to
the rainbow and stuff like that, and

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uh so hands me is business card. I wish I had it today,

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And that business card said Metallica power
Metal, Dave Mustain. Yeah, I

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I should have because because yeah,
that was that was a late Yeah,

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that was I forgot about that curses
right, Yeah, that was that was

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a label that people had put on
it or they had started to develop the

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idea of thrash right exactly. And
so yeah, early, yeah, the

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early notion of power metal is what
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it's power metal. Yeah, is
a different thing, but that's yeah exactly

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hanging out and then hanging out with
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And you know what, it does
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like the whole concept of what the
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than before it was even developed.
You know, and they were calling bands

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power metal because to me, the
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concept thing is power metal in and
of itself. Yeah, I definitely think

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that, like, not that you
can't make great power metal that doesn't revolve

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around kind of epic storytelling that that
often takes place over like multiple tracks,

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right, but I definitely think that, like the storytelling is a huge part

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of it, and it's it's a
huge draw for the people who really love

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power metal because it also kind of
gives you that thing that it gives you

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that kind of invitation to dive deeper
into a song because you're like, okay,

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so you know this this kind of
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CD booklets and the liner notes and
things like that. We'd be like,

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so what is like, Okay,
so I got most of these lyrics,

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I'm getting the I'm getting the gist
of the song. What are like kind

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of the details of the song,
And it gives you kind of that opportunity

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to deep dive a little bit more
in. Yeah, I think it also

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is great because it's got like such
a funny, as it may seem to

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say, an educational value to it
because it is. It's storytelling with some

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basis in reality of how things were
at pointing. So it's kind of like

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gain a history lesson. Yeah,
and you know, and we actually are.

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Our next single is History Oracle.
It's called Across the Rubicon and it's

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about Caesar in the Fall of the
Roman Republic. I'm a history teacher by

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day, so I definitely like whether
we're just like borrowing ideas from history or

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whether we're telling actual, like stories
from history. There's definitely like a lot

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of that. You know. Our
last single that we put out, Sons

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of the Verdant, definitely took pieces
from that story that we hear about,

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you know, all the time in
history, which is you know, like

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native resistance to like to invaders,
colonizers, that sort of thing, and

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so we you know, we took
bits and pieces. But the other nice

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thing is that then you're not like
borrowing somebody else's culture at the same time,

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you can just take bits and pieces
from a bunch of different people's stories

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and kind of and put it to
put it together, I mean, which

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is also like it's a common fantasy
thing. George R. Martin did a

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ton of that in Game of Thrones, yeah, and you know it's I

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think it's interesting too, like the
misconceptions of metal throughout the years, because

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people think it's just about oh,
death, destruction, evil, and really

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even if you take some of the
most evil bands or evil perceived Slayer as

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an example, Hanneman was a total
history nut, especially when it came to

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World War Two. So most of
their songs are all about World War Two.

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And if you really read the lyrics. That's the problem with people outside

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of metal is they hear these things, but they don't take the time to

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really read the lyrics to find out
that it's not really about death and destruction.

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It is, but it's against it, not for it. In a

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lot of cases. Yeah, I
mean thinking about you know, Mega death

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right like peace cells, but who's
buying There was a there was a great

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interview a few years ago with Nicole
McBrain from Iron Maiden because he uh kind

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of become a born again a born
again Christian. They're asking like, well,

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do you feel comfortable playing songs like
Number of the Beasts. He's like,

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well, Number of the Beast is
an extremely Christian song because what it

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all it really is saying is like
look at how look at how the devil

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corrupts the souls of mankind. Like
that's what it's about. It's not necessarily

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like yay yay say. And I
mean there is metal like that, and

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there is some of that that is
really really good, right, but most

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of it, you're right, Like, it's when when they're talking about these

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negative things, it's it's it's to
point them out negatively, sometimes with maybe

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a layer of irony that not everybody
that not everybody gets and maybe that's where

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some of the confusion comes in.
I think, well, I love that

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You's Maiden as an example, because
that song in particular has quotes from the

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Bible. Oh yeah, it starts
it starts off with they kind of mesh

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mash some different verses from revel relations
together, WHOA to You, Oh Earth

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and see exactly total. So tell
everybody how they can check out the latest

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single It's Badass Oath Sworn and your
upcoming EP Creations Call coming out August twenty

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third, very soon, very exciting. So let's tell everybody how they can

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pre save the album, pre order
it, or just connect to you on

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socials, connect on the web,
all that good stuff. Yeah, so

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save pre saves for everything, should
be up right now on Spotify. Oath

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Sworn's out now on all the major
platforms, so wherever wherever you like to

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go. We do have a cool
lyric video that's up on YouTube, so

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that could be a good way,
especially to you know, just kind of

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get the get more of the story. Yeah, so we've got Oathsworn out.

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Now, we've got Across the Rubicon, which comes out July something July,

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I believe it is July nineteenth.
Nice Across the Rubicon, and then

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yeah, the full the full EP
comes out August twenty third, and then

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you'll catch us playing uh, playing
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first Mile High Power Festival in Denver. You can follow us. We're We're

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on Facebook, Siege Perilous, Instagram
Siege par Siege Perilous Metal. We're on

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TikTok At. I think it's Siege
Metal. I always need to write these

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down on a little post it note, but I never think about in advance.

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So yeah, I mean pretty much
pretty much any major social media you

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can find us on where we try
to stay active on all of those things

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and making that making that content for
y'all nice. So what's your either most

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fun or or most embarrassing TikTok that
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some fun tiktoks. So I'm thirty
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it was weird, and so I
definitely think there's probably some some weird or

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more cringey stuff in the early like
if you if you scroll back to like

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when we were releasing our first EP
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because figuring out the format and stuff, and it's always I always find it

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super weird what works and what doesn't. Like I did for Sons of the

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Verdict, we did what I thought
was was some great content. We were

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kind of running around the woods,
I'm wearing elf ears doing bits from the

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song. I thought that was really
fun and and those pieces didn't do super

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great. And then the other day
for Oaksworn, I was just literally in

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the parking lot about to go into
the gym and did some stupid lip synky

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stuff and that stuff is like triple
what the what the other content was doing.

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I don't know if that's a function
of the song or it's just a

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function of how TikTok works. I
still feel like I'm in that in that

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phase where I'm just throwing stuff at
the wall and trying to see what sticks.

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It is kind of a game with
all of them, right, they

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changed the algorithms that you gotta play
this game, But it does feel weird.

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Doesn't't to be a millennial and be
kind of outdated? And yeah,

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I mean the nice nice thing is
the nice thing is we played music.

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We play music in a subgenre that
skews a little bit older, like I

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mean our when I looked at like
our Spotify numbers and stuff for Sons of

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the Verdant, like our our biggest
age demographic was forty five to fifty nine.

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I was gonna say power metals,
like definitely, I'm a gen X

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or so it's definitely a gen X
thing. And maybe you could even say

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boomer thing. Yeah, it definitely
because I mean it, Yeah, it's

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it's stretches. It stretches back to
the early eighties with with you know,

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with do oh and and Man of
War and then you know and the new

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wave of British heavy metal bands like
Maiden and Priest. Yeah, Like I

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wouldn't say we totally medal, but
you can't have power metal without them.

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Yeah, And we totally considered Maide
in power metal, like not exclusively,

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but even once Bruce joined the band, and every album was kind of a

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concept storytelling album. Yeah, I
definitely think that like that was that was

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such a huge thing that that Maiden
and and Dio really brought to the table,

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because you don't like I guess Judas
Priest has done some of those,

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but I think the ones of those
that they did were post nineteen were post

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nineteen ninety. I don't think any
of the albums from the eighties had that,

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Yeah, had that kind of conceptual
vibe to it. No, Well,

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your music is badass, and I
think everybody should check it out.

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And do you have any final words
for our listeners anything we haven't covered that

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they should know. No. Like
I said, we're playing Mile High Power

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for anybody in Denver in the Rocky
Mountain region. We got the first inaugural

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heavy metal sorry Mile High Power Festival
on August on August twenty fourth. It's

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gonna be really it's gonna be really
big. I mean, we're playing,

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but I always tell people there's much
better bands playing too, because we're like

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the very start. We're the very
start of the day. But like we've

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got a lot of the other big
US power metal bands coming through, so

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we've got Lords of the Trident,
Judicator, Seven Spires, and ether Rema

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are headliners. So like, it's
it's a really big lineup and tickets are

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only forty bucks for like a whole
wow, massive day long festival of heavy

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metals. So it's a really it's
like, it's a really, it's a

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really good deal and I want to
see I want to see that place packed.

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You can't even take an uber to
a festival nowadays for forty bucks,

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so that's a good deal. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when when they

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were interviewing our friend Soorn, who
like runs the who like runs the festival,

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is the founder of the festival.
The people they interviewed were like,

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is it really only forty bucks,
because yeah, usually it'd be two or

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three times that and then and it
is an amazing lineup of bands, so

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love it. Well, excited for
that, everybody. You'll have to go

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check that out for sure. And
thanks for you know, giving us great

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music, and thanks for being on
the Adventures of pipe Man. Well,

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thanks for listening and thanks for having
me. Thank you for listening to the

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