Jan. 28, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Stowaway Tom Hane on Shiprocked 2025

The Adventures of Pipeman continue on Shiprocked and Pipeman has a conversation with one of the Stowaways who is such a versatile drummer. Tom Hane killed it performing the 80s tunes with the other Stowaways. I was especially happy that he shared some...

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The Adventures of Pipeman continue on Shiprocked and Pipeman has a conversation with one of the Stowaways who is such a versatile drummer. Tom Hane killed it performing the 80s tunes with the other Stowaways. I was especially happy that he shared some secret information with me about one of my favorite songs . . .Whiplash. We talked about how cool it is to be an artist on Shiprocked and how it's the most fun on this amazing rock cruise.


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And I'm here with Tom Haynes nice here at ship Rocks.

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Oh yeah, So what's it feel like to be a

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castaway or a stowaway? I keep saying castaway. I'm thinking

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of a movie It's snow Away on right.

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It's interesting because you're almost accountable for nothing, but you

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really don't want to mess up what you're accountable for, right,

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So you can find yourself just going like, oh what

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am I going to fill my days with? Or what

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am I going to do? But it's a lot of

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fun because by the time you're like, like, today was rehearsal,

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and as you know, I kept you waiting a little bit,

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so I proses for that. But it's fun to dial

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it in and it's like the first time everybody's playing

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these songs together, right, you know, there's a little bit

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of communication back and forth of like, okay, this person's

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gonna be end this song and okay, we've got to

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change the key for the singer, like whoever, whatever you

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gotta do. And at the end, it's kind of like

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it turns into a game of telephone, right, It's like

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you never know how accurate any of this is going

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to be. At the end, it's just a Really it's

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kind of like karaoke. There's really no prep. There's not

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a lot to it. We run through the songs once,

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maybe twice, but I mean, everybody's so professional and most

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people are prepared, so it's a lot of fun.

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It's a lot of fun.

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Yeah, I bet, And you know it's it reminds me, Okay,

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my eight you're gonna trip out on this my eighteenth birthday? Well,

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is that some storage play in La? The Dickies were

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practicing right next door. And then I knew a bunch

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in the eighties. I knew a bunch of LA bands.

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So they all came to my birthday party and they

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all got up on stage and played instruments they don't

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play and played Breaking the Law. Okay, like you had

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Slayer there, yeah, and you had like this band Savage

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Grace is in around them. They just put out a

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new album after like thirty years. Yeah, I think Mustaine

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was there, and Armored Saint and Wasp and like a

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bunch of heavy hitters, all of them, and it was

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fucking cool. They're not even playing their instruments, They're just

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playing something else. That was so much fun. And yeah,

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so I imagine for an artist that's really fun because

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like you're doing the same thing all the time and

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do something like that. It's just something fun and different

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to do.

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And it's cool too because the genre that I've been

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kind of quote unquote pigeonholeding to you, like you would

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never think I'd be playing some of these songs, right,

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eighties theme boat, So it's like playing some of the

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staff and then other people as well doing the same thing.

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And then it's like it's amalgamation of just really eclectic

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artists playing these bizarre songs that right ever be playing.

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So it's a lot of fun.

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I feel that way too. Like, Okay, so like I

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always like switch up my hair all the time, like

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my hair webs blue. Yeah, yeah, but fair, Okay, we're

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eighties themes, so I'm gonna do something I did not

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do in the eighties and I'm gonna like do like

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the new wave look in my hair, yeah, because I

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was so fucking gatekeeper anti new wave in the eighties,

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you know, so it's like, I fuck it, I'll do it.

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Yeah I was.

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I was just talking with Jesse from kill Switch about

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how you grow up with these like attitudes towards different genres,

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and I like, when I was young, kill Switch and

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like shadows Fall, those bands were like my go to

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metal bands.

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And I had a shirt that was a shadows Fall.

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Shirt that said eating emo kids for breakfast, and I

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was like so anti anything that wasn't pure metal, you know, right,

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And then you know, I got the opportunity within this

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moment and tour with them, and toured with a bunch

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of bands that were really not in my wheelhouse, and

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I was judgy about it at first.

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Then you realize all.

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These people are so genuine, yeah, and that that little

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douchebag in the back of your head kind of goes away,

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and then you realize like, oh, I know that song, right, Oh,

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I know that song too.

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Oh that's oh he's really talented. Yeah, oh that like

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this is great.

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And then it's like that that whole thing was completely

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erased from my psyche.

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I love that cause I always saw I was stupid

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back then too, like and I'm from the original gatekeepers

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that were like if like I remember, I saw the

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first club show I ever saw my life that really

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got me to where I'm almost like I'm never going

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to a real concert again. Was Motley Crue, but before

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they had an album, so they weren't glam. They were

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more like horror punk.

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I was like they were trying to like the whole

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Roxy on fire to bring Satan and I'm like, oh

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my god. And then you know, I went to like

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the first Metallica show ever, the first Slayer show ever

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than your cap right, So once I got into Slayer,

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it was like my friends were like, yeah, we got

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to burn all your Motley Cruise shit or like you

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would go to a Slayer show like that?

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Though we must, but it's like a ritual, right, remove it.

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And why can't you like different things? And we all did,

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but nobody admitted it.

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Yes, you know that's the thing too. For me too,

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I was like I knew what I like. There was

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stuff that crept in and I'm like, that's pretty cool.

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I'm not gonna tell anybody.

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Exactly, no doubt.

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Guy, yeah, high schooler exactly.

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And then you know, it's like you go to a

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Slayer show and somebody showed up with Motley Cruise shit

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shirt Freudian slip, and somebody would like, rip their shirt

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off their back, throw it up to Tom and he

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would burn it on stage. When I think about that,

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I'm like, I thought it was really cool then, and

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now I'm like, what a dick move.

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I think that just comes with I'm not an old

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man by any means, but I feel like I'm pretty

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wise for my age, and I think it comes from

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just experiencing other people from different walks of life and stuff.

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I think touring opened that up to me too, not

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just meaning touring people, but other just people on tour,

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like fans or just you know, going through a random

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state on a day off and perspective is huge for

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stuff like that.

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People get so locked.

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Into their way of life in their hometown or and

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you feel like branching out of that is almost no doubt,

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like like sacrilegious or something like that.

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I think, and correct me if I'm wrong too. When

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you go on tour with these other artists that maybe

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you would have been against when you're younger, and then

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you find out that maybe they're just like you, Like

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they're an artist and they're so cool, and why were

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you thinking they were dicks or whatever?

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The pain with different colors, you know what I mean.

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We're all trying to do the same thing, and it's

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kind of weird to judge somebody for something like that

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because at the end of the day, artists should support

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the artists. Like to be anti anything is just keeping

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your own interest, you know, pushed down, right, So if

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we all got along, I mean, yeah, that's classic, you know, right, can't.

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We just get along?

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But if that truly happened, I think the whole rock

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and metal genre would be stronger for it.

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I think so. And even back in the day, like

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I had hair down to my waist, I couldn't go

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to punk shows, which I wanted to. I love punk too,

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but I'd get my ass beat if I went. So

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it's like I remember I was doing hell Fest right

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after COVID and I was interviewing Discharge. I'm like, you're

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one of my favorite bands, and this is the first

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time I've ever been able to see you. Because back

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in the day I would have gotten my ass beat

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and like even he was like, yeah, it was fucking stupid.

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I think you you came up at a time where

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it was still physically violent.

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Oh yeah.

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The kids and stuff around me were just like, you know,

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verbally bullies, which is even I don't know, they're both stupid.

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Well there's like, oh, you're going to go to a

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you know, less than Jake show, right, you know what

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I mean?

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Stupid too because like in high school back in the day,

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like now it's a much bigger thing. Yeah, but there

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were a handful of us that were metal heads, a

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handful of us at were punks, and the jocks were

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bullying both of us. Yet we would fight with each other.

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Why when we band together exactly? You know.

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It's really stupid, right, It's really stupid, and it's based

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on probably nothing, no doubt, but just some kind of

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how do we even have egos when we're that young?

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I don't get it, But that's all it's based off of.

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It's just a cool kids club, and yeah, I think

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it's extremely weird. I'm so glad he needs to go away.

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I feel like it's going away a little bit more.

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I feel like it's almost gone now, like especially Okay,

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so you talk about like European festivals that cover and

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like I remember interviewing Jacoby Shaddocks once.

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Like, shout out Jacoby Shaddocks. He's one of my favorite

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people on Earth.

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Which were the fucking coolest dude. Dude, he is such

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a cool dude. And what he said was like, I'm asking, so,

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what's it Like, it's an arm play European festivals. Yeah,

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you know, and he's like, it's the coolest shit ever

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because you're playing at a festival and then after you're set,

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you're standing side stage watching earth Wind and Fire.

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Yeah, it's you know, eclectic and so diverse, and it

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is much less judgy.

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Yeah, like much less judgy totally.

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But we're also in a weird time too.

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I'm not on TikTok, but I know that TikTok's coming

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and going or whatever. But the TikTok generation of kids,

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like they don't care when something's released, right, Like it's

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weird because songs that would have been popular like thirty

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years ago, they're just hearing for the first time. But

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then it's like going you know, viral, right, and it's

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like this resurgence of old music that like, well, look

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would not have gone viral for any other reason.

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We'll look at you, look at what happened with can

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you Feel My Heart? Like yeah, oh my god. And

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TikTok made that like a number one song after how

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many years?

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Yes, it was a big song before, but then it

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was a massive song.

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Right, It is kind of and you know, you could

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there's two ways to look at TikTok, But I think

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it also gives artists a love opportunity that they never

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had before.

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on that, but it's definitely a force for artists. If

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you know how to I don't want to say exploit,

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if you know how to play that game, yeah, you

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can definitely fast track your career and you can get

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some genuine fans out of it.

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Oh yeah, I was watching this one band or following

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this one band on TikTok that was like pretty new.

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They were a metal band and they kept shouting out

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Jack Black, you know, because the singer kind of looked

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like Jack Black and had the same type of voice

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and would do the same like this, And you know,

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the next thing, you know, Jack Black did a like

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stitch of their thing. And then they had a million

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followers just like that.

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It's all it takes, right, Isn't that weird?

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It blows my mind.

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It's because marketing is is less valuable than it used

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to be, well in terms of like traditional marketing. Right,

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A moment like that with somebody that resonates with people

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on a large scale can overnight change your band, overnight

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a band's career.

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So that if you take the positive of nowadays, I

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think that's something you have, you win. I've had back when.

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I try to look at the positive of almost everything sad.

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That's a good one for sure, you know, no doubt.

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It's pretty cool.

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So you also just set up your new rehearsal studio,

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you know, talk about that a little bit.

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Yeah, I've been.

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I've been just trying to, like, I work from home.

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I write music for a living, and I do stuff

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like that all the time. And I love my wife

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and I love my dogs and all that. But sometimes

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you just need to like have a space that's not

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at home, Yeah, because your creative battery can get weird

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sometimes or interrupted. Yes, sometimes for a good reason, sometimes

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not for a good reason, but that's part of the deal. So, yeah,

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I have like my my full songwriting studio at my

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home still. But if I want to just go and

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not annoy the whole neighborhood and do my own thing

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and just like have my drums and moment, I'll pop

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over there.

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Nice a lot of fun. Yeah, what else do you

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have going on in twenty twenty five you want people

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to know about?

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Trying to think of what I can talk about right,

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There's some cool stuff. I don't think I can announce

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it yet, but I'm finishing up writing with Motionless and White.

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I write a lot of stuff with them and Nice

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I've been. We toured with them back in the day.

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Within this moment, we became pretty close.

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Chris is the coolest you know Chris, Yeah, real well, Chris,

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like we're like friends right now after interview him. I

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interviewed them when they were nobody, you know, and like

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all along and he's just the coolest, nicest dude.

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I'm really like beyond proud of that guy in that

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whole camp. They deserve everything that's happening to them right now.

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And he was one of the first people to actually

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trust me as a songwriter, you know what I mean,

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because I was just in in this moment as a

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drummer and never really talked about the fact that I

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write music right as well.

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And you probably get pigeonholed when your drummer special set.

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Yeah, people don't assume that I know how to play

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any other instruments, right, you know what I mean? But

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what happened is they lost their drummer after or their

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infamous record and they were going into Record Reincarnate and

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I sent a text like as a joke, like let

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me know if you need me to cut any drums

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on the record, and it was like actually right, and

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then I was like, yeah, I would love to. And

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then from there I was like I only did drums.

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But we became closer and we got to talk and

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I was like yeah, man, and like, if you ever

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want to write or work with any songwriters or anything,

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like I love writing music. He's like, well, send me

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some stuff. I sent him some stuff and he's like

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is he He's like, why don't you writing music?

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I was like, I don't know. I like I didn't.

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You don't know how to do anything until you figure

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out how to do it right, like exactly. The hardest

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part of anything in this industry is connecting the dots

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and I'm by no means about have I connected all

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the dots yet, but I'm.

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Working doing it, you know what I mean, getting there.

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So that was a big step for me because a

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lot of people don't want to write with you unless

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they know who you wrote for before.

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It's like chicken in the egg in the egg thing,

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you know.

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But Chris, all he really cared about was like is

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it cool or not?

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And he thought it was cool.

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So we started working together and then you know, after that,

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we did the Graveyard Chief record, we did the Disguise record,

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we did Scoring the End of the World, and now.

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We're doing his new record.

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I love it.

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It's gonna be awesome, and I love hearing all.

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This positive stuff because like I won't mention, but there's

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somebody on TikTok speaking of TikTok that likes to blast him.

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Oh yeah, and I might know who you're talking about.

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And I'm like, I don't get it, Like this is

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the nicest dude in the world, like be a dick

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to somebody else.

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Well, I think a lot of it comes from it's

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like a style of pr you know.

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Oh yeah, that person definitely that's their style.

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Yeah, I see, I'm not gonna name names either.

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I see other bands going like, oh, we could probably

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do that too, and I'm like, Okay, maybe this is

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not the bandwagon that we should all be hopping on, right.

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I mean, maybe we could just be nicer to do

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each other. But yeah, I think it's a little weird.

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I'm not a fan of bully culture in general.

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And ours should always support ourist period.

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Like we talked about earlier.

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But yeah, you know, it sucks even giving that energy,

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you know, to them, But what are you gonna do.

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I mean, that's the main reason I wouldn't mention the

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name because I'm not going to promote the personally next

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So you know, I'm mentioning everybody's following them because of

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yeah exactly.

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But you know, I'm in the same boat with you,

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and it's just it's weird. And the people that just

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latch onto it too, you know, I think that not

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to get political, I think it happens a lot in

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politics too. There's just for something and take it for

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a fact. But they heard it from whatever party they

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believe in. Yeah, well it has to be true they

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said that.

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Yeah exactly. I hate that some of the.

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Shit that I've been hearing from said person that we

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talked about before. It's just like so far from a truth.

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So and I know that for a fact. Yeah, so

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that's like I feel bad too, not for him, but

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it's like these people that are following him that they

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buy into it, just like they buy into politicians. Like

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you said, you know, what are you gonna do? But

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it is what it is? Yeah, okay, So I have

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something exciting for it. This is something and haven't worn

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since I'm sixteens to first, Like I go to all

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the festivals. I've never brought it by fear because we're

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eighties themed. I brought my battle best yes, damn. Okay.

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So what I want you to do is look at

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this whole thing. I drew everything on here. Yeah, look

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at the front. I want you to pick the band

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on here that you would love to tour with.

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Oh man, you got a lot of good shit on here.

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Well, thank you.

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Yeah.

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In fact, it's so old that Slayer up there. They

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didn't have Slayer patches yet, so ill and I was

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in LA and people. I was a gang bagger. My

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gang name was Slayer.

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That's funny.

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I'm gonna go with what I because I'm a little

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out of the metal stuff nowadays, but I'm gonna go

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with what the childhood me would have loved the most.

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And I was obsessed with Megadeth. Nice, I'm gonna go

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with Megadeath. I was a kid.

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I was always Megadeth over Metallica. But I loved him both.

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But if I love them, I got to pick one Megadeth.

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I love them both too, but I love Dave and

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what what amazing musician he is and putting that like

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jazz influence into the metal that tar got me. Right.

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As I get older, I uh, I drum more for

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the song, But when I was a kid, I just

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wanted to explore all of the obscure time signatures and

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weird rhythmic patterns and things like that. So, yeah, Megadeth

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was always more interesting to me. He always had great

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musicians in Metallica, but like he always had amazing musicians

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on his record and.

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Him himself, like he's one of the best guitars ever

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in mine saying on that, right, But yes, so you're

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gonna love this, Okay. So that first Metallica show I

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told you I went to, Yeah, you know, I was

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back in the day and Sunset Strip Days, Troubadour and

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all that in LA and there were like twenty five

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of us at this show.

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Yeah, and.

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It comes up to me after the show, as used

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to happen back then, after getting off the stage. Yeah,

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and he starts talking me. He was cool as ship

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and they hands me I wish I had it today.

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His business card said Metallica, Power Metal, Dave Mustain.

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Wow right damn.

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So yeah, I saw him with Metallica and.

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Yeah, that's some like epic shit. We're playing a Metallica song.

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I'm playing Whiplash this year. That's going to be on

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the Stowys so I could say it here nobody's going right, Yeah,

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And you know what's amazing about that, Yeah, is now

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I really want to go because that's probably my favorite

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Metallica song of all time.

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Why because back in the day, we would go to

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Metallica shows, go to their house afterwards and turn on

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Whiplash and there would be a line of like fifty

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of us all headbanging to Whiplash.

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It's going to be sick. It's the second set, so

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it'll be on Friday.

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Oh yeah, that I can't miss at that. Yeah, for sure,

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I love it. Yeah, anything else you want to tell

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the listeners about that we haven't covered Ray, I'm trying

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to think.

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Unfortunately, you know it goes.

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Sometimes you just can't talk about shit until you're allowed

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to do exactly.

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So you know what people have to do that tell

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them your socials, tell them how to reach you so

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that they can find out this shit when you announce them.

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I'm a lazy guy, so really just Instagram at drummer

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Tom Hayne and then I'm in the process of creating

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a project. But it's nowhere near like coming to fruition yet.

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So to follow all things Tom Hayne, go to at

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drummer Tom Haynes.

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There it is joy, whatever it is, I have to

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offer it.

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So I was a drummer for nine years when I

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was a kid, and I sucked. So I switched the guitar.

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I sucked at that. I sang thrash metal, sucked at that.

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So here I am talking to you. But yeah, who

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is the drummer that made you feel like you wanted

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to play the drums? Well?

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I started drumming on I was three. Oh well, so

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I don't even know if I fully understood.

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That's why you're so good?

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Hero, right, I didn't have like probably.

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I mean, my dad's a drummer, so but he's like

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a lefty that plays on a righty kit.

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Oh really learn anything for me.

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Yeah, I'm a lefty too, and it is hard like that,

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like even with guitar, it's like weird.

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Yeah.

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So he plays a right a righty drum set, so

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the high hats on the left, but he also puts

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his ride.

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Cimal on the left.

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Ah.

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So he was just like, just don't We'll get your

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own drum set. Don't learn anything I have to offer here,

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you know. But yeah, I mean once I could really

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start thinking about, you know, like the art behind it,

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not just like I like drumming and you know I

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have rhythm in my blood, you know, I think Vinnie Paul.

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That was like.

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Because once I got into metal, I started really taking

465
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.519
it seriously. I grew up in like playing blues and funk,

466
00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.319
and I got all my like groove chops through that,

467
00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.880
which I really appreciative of that makes you better, And

468
00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.160
then fell in love with punk and had a brief

469
00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:04.920
ska moment.

470
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.359
My first concert was less than Jake and bon Jovi.

471
00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:10.640
How well, wow that is so I had the moment

472
00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.960
of that, and then I heard I remember seeing Slipknot

473
00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:16.480
on Jay Leno, and I.

474
00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.880
Went, what the hell is that?

475
00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.039
And then I saw like, you know, system of a

476
00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:24.720
Down and that whole era, you know, like Papa Roach

477
00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:27.240
growing up like that was a gateway band for sure.

478
00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:29.400
Funny sidebar about Papa Roach.

479
00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.759
I remember I brought my mom to a show that

480
00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:33.720
we were playing nearby and Papa we were playing with

481
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:38.720
Papa Roach, and I introduced them, you know, to my mom, and.

482
00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:43.279
They're like the nicest dudes they are, you know, and

483
00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:44.000
my mom.

484
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:47.720
Is not like awkward, like she's like a very you

485
00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.640
know for both kind of women, but in a good way.

486
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.440
She's like, I broke my son's CD because you guys

487
00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.720
wrote vulgar stuff. And she's not like she's not anti

488
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:57.519
that by any means. But I was like eight or

489
00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:59.240
nine when that came out. She's like, I don't need

490
00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.720
you hearing that. She basically said, I broke the explicit one,

491
00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.839
but I bought him another one from like Walmart or

492
00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.680
Sam's Club that had no swearing on it. And Jacobe

493
00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:10.160
was like, oh thanks, we got paid.

494
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:10.599
Twice, you know.

495
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.240
So that was a cool moment for her, And it

496
00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:15.640
was cool for me too, because it was a funny

497
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:17.519
thing for me to just like step back and watch

498
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.559
watch them interact, you know. Yeah, and just like a

499
00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.119
person that I thought I would never meet as a

500
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.680
kid or like you know, is now just a friend

501
00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.279
and my mom and they're talking about how she just

502
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.200
broke the CD when I was a child. Just things

503
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.400
like that are super super funny, and it's like really

504
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.400
cool and like I'll value experience like I cherish experiences.

505
00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:43.960
Well, I love hearing about that. Is like these listeners

506
00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.079
they don't realize that you guys are just normal people.

507
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:49.400
And I love to point that out.

508
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:50.279
Vinnie Paul.

509
00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:53.920
So there you go, like back to like heroes, right right,

510
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.119
Vinnie Paul. We toured in this moment and hell yeah,

511
00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.319
toured together and Vinnie came up to me they were

512
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.200
opening for us, which was like to me, that was

513
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.400
like what weird?

514
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:04.720
Right?

515
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:07.839
And he was like, hey, can I borrow your drum Riser?

516
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.559
And I was like, yeah, my hero, you can borrow

517
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.400
my drum rider. You don't wow like weird. I don't

518
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:14.079
think I was weird.

519
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.319
I probably was, but I don't get weird around many

520
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.680
artists because I do realize that they're all just people.

521
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.440
But there's certain people where you're like, man, I grew

522
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.519
up just you were the guy.

523
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.039
There are certain people like doing what I do. I

524
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.920
very rarely like fanboy out who I'm interviewing, but there

525
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.799
are some times like there was one time you were

526
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.119
talking about Slipknop. But I was covering a Stone Shower

527
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:39.960
a Stone Sour show and I was on the bus

528
00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.039
with Ryan. We did an interview. When I got off

529
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:45.240
the bus, I sat down on the curb with smoke

530
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.759
a cigarette. This dude walks over to me. I knew

531
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.079
who he was, but I pretend like I didn't like

532
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:52.920
not pretend I didn't, but didn't.

533
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:57.359
Yeah you didn't want to punisher, and he just he.

534
00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.440
Started talking to me, and I'm less like sitting there.

535
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.519
I'm like, I can't believe I'm fucking sitting here talking

536
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:05.400
about the weather with Corey Taylor.

537
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.039
Yeah.

538
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:07.680
Like Corey is a nice guy too. He is a

539
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.160
shout out Roy because Roy is one of my favorite people.

540
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:12.680
He was such a cool dude.

541
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:14.920
He we actually did ship Rock together last year. Roy

542
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:16.839
and we were just touched it to hip like he's

543
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:20.759
the man. He is really Coolstone sawer a while ago

544
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.640
or at this point a long time ago, but getting

545
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.480
to know them was really awesome.

546
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.920
Yeah, and that's see, that's the stuff I think listeners

547
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:31.519
need to yeah think about because they see the persona.

548
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:33.960
I get it too, Like I got people that they

549
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.519
see my radio persona and they think that's me.

550
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.200
Yeah, it's a.

551
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:38.759
Part of you.

552
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:41.480
Yeah, it's all of you. Got to put a little

553
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:42.319
bit of a face on it.

554
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:44.279
And then a band like Slipknot they got to put

555
00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.920
a big old face on it, you know.

556
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.839
And they the whole thing is to be larger than life.

557
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.000
Yeah, and just be like when you see him get

558
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.559
on stage, it's like a presence. It's not like people

559
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:57.000
are walking on stage. It's like an entity has entered

560
00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.319
the building or the arena or whatever. And yeah, but

561
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.279
that doesn't mean that's who they are exactly.

562
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.880
You know, there's so many other facets of who's.

563
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.759
They get off stage and they're like, okay, what's after

564
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:07.279
show food?

565
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.440
Right exactly, it's.

566
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.920
Like, okay, we're getting pizza, you know, And it's just

567
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.240
at that moment they're just the person again.

568
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:18.319
That's right. So that's right, And so man, I'm super

569
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:20.960
happy you're here at shiprock I'm super happy that we

570
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.400
did connect because now I know you're going to play

571
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:24.599
fucking whiplash.

572
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:26.319
Yeah, and it's going to be sick.

573
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.599
That's going to be the most epic part of ship Rocked,

574
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:29.039
I think.

575
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.079
Yeah. Sorry I kept you waiting, but at least it'll

576
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:31.319
be fun.

577
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.400
It was worth the way. Whiplash is worth the way. Yeah,

578
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:34.960
there you go.

579
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:36.680
Thank you for having me man.

580
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.799
Hey, my pleasure. Thank you for being on the Adventures

581
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:39.720
pipe Man of course.

582
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:42.319
Hey, what's up.

583
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.599
I'm Tom Haynes and you're listening to pipe Man on

584
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:46.640
W four c Y Radio.

585
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:54.240
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man

586
00:25:54.799 --> 00:26:02.799
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