PipemanRadio Interviews Tess & The Details

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0:44 There, this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. Let's welcome to the show, Testamon details. Hi, great, absolutely happy to be here. Thanks for having us on and I'm Tess. My name is Gideon. Pleasure to be here, Thank you for inviting us. And we're still that you you know you like our record, dude, Yeah, And I read something that was what I liked. Also was the fact that about standing up against the establishment, because I kind of laugh. It seems my old school punk rock friends, including bands, are all pro establishment, and I scratch my head all the time. I'm like, that was never what punk rock was about. So I'm glad we have a band like you that is doing it the real way. Still yeah, well, I think to us the establishment is being like everybody else. We do our own thing. We don't want to imitate. We like to take, you know, influence from the best parts of the things that we love and then spin it up to make something new. And Yeah, just being yourself and staying true to what you truly love and not renegging on that for for any reason. It is kind of where we're coming from. I think, so tell us both of you, like, there must have been some

2:15 point in life where you're like, yes, this is what I need to do. There's nothing else I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna do this. Is there a point that you can remember that that bell went off in your head? I can start by saying that the way I approach this whole playing in bands and playing music thing, it's kind of like a weird ass drug addiction. It's not a you know, it's like something you do you fall in love. You can go into like weird ass stories of like the chemicals in your brand and in your body that it encourages, That makes you feel good and it makes you want to do it again by the end of the day. It's like an addiction. It doesn't makes sense though, because it cost a lot of money. There's a lot of heavy shit. You need to make a lot of sacrifices, you need to work really hard. Let me tell you a secret. Financially, it doesn't make a ton of sense, but it's really fun because you get to interact with people who are really appreciated of your work and enjoy it. So that's fun. As far as like the moment that me personally I realized, hey, this is something I do, this is something I fall in love. Is the moment I realized that I played the show in my early days, like when I was like fourteen fifteen years old, and people came up to me and they're like stoked and they were happy. So you see the impact of your work and you're like craft art, I call it on people, and they're you know,

3:46 they enjoy it, and like, hey, I got to give you that experience or that emotion that I got when I went to see you know, that awesome band that influenced me. So it's like a you pass on the disease in a good way. I love it. And you know, you made a good point about the money thing, because I say all the time, if you're in especially now even more so than before. If you're in this business because you're looking to make money or become some famous, rich rock star, you're on the wrong boat. You better love what you do and have a passion for it, because that's the benefit. Yeah, especially nowadays.

4:31 Honestly, if people have no's for bullshit and people have a good sense for like authenticity and intent behind why you're doing what you're doing. And I'm not saying like, if you'll be authentic and you'll be honest, like you'll make money, no, but definitely, if that's the intent and that's the idea, you're definitely not set for success. So I hope I believe I speak for the entire group when I say, like, our intent with this is number one to have fun and to pass on, you know, positive messages and encourage people to do to do good things. But yeah, basically give people a fun experience, a fun you know, piece of music and art to enjoy. There I go, how about you test? I do have a weird moment. I was like, I think ten years old, and I grew up in the Midwest, so I didn't have like a big DIY punk rock scene around me. I'm the oldest sibling, so I didn't have anybody who was like passing music down to me. It was like my dad having me listen to bir Springsteen, and I was like, this is cool. There's telling stories and all that, but I was I remember very vividly getting ready for school one day an MTV back when MTV had music on, Yeah, they would play a series of music videos and I remember hearing the opening rift to American Idiot, and I remember turning around and going, what the what is that? What is that? I never heard something like that in my life. Like I heard like like Eagles and like the classic rock my dad listened to, and the pop stuff like the Madonnas that like

6:05 my mom listened to. It was listening to Britney Spears like I didn't know anything. I was like guitars, Like who's that little guy? What is he doing? And why? Like I'm so confused. And I went in this big deep dive with the whole discography. Then I'm like what bands did they listen to? And I learned about like Husker Doo and Freaking the Replacements and guy, I got really into Elvis. Like it just started this like shock wave of research. What how did this get to where it is, and that's kind of how I fell in love with punk rock and d I Y and how bands did things and how bands treated people. And I think the big impact that punk had on me like then when I got into like the scene in Cleveland and like started meeting people in real bands and like being an underage teenage girl playing in these like rock clubs with these bands that like we had no business playing with, but everyone you treated each other with respect, and when you're finished with the show, you go to the merch stand and you shake people's hands and you hang out and you talk and you nerd out about music. And I think that was the big impact on me, Like the connection between listener and band there's no wall, And that's kind of what that taught me is like, yeah, this band's bigger than life, but they're still bringing a kid on stage to play guitar with them, Like they're still doing the things that make punk rock special. So I think going into that and then getting into like arena rock after like watching bands like Foo Fighters, like making this huge spectacle out of this thing that can exist in a club, that really rubbed off on me as a young person and something we like to bring to our shows is like, no matter how many people,

7:36 we're playing with, same intensity, same attention to details, same bullshit between songs, same energy, and the way we give to the crowd and they give back. It doesn't matter how many people are watching, as long as everyone's having fun. So yeah, and that connection is key because I can tell you I have all the genres. That's one of the biggest attractstions of punk. It's funny because like I go around and I do radio coverage at festivals like all over the world, and last year, how's that hell Fest? And the exploited we're playing, And so there's something that a lot of punk bands are were always famous for back in the day that doesn't happen so much anymore because you have this barrier nowadays between like the stage and the people. And Wattie was just like, screw it, and he called and he told us, He told all the you know, security, you better get out of way. He called everybody up on stage. And this stage okay, was so high, like I you know, I even as pressed.

8:46 I even went up because I'm like yes, and but I couldn't get up there. People had to pull you up. It was just like old school, you know, and everybody's pulling you up next thing. You know. It's like the security guards, they didn't leave, they didn't stop. Plus they helped us get up there, and it helped us get out and down afterwards. But it was like I was up there with a couple hundred people on stage for the last song and they exploit it, and to me, that's punk rock right there. Yeah, there's no uh, there's no point in acting too cool for school, Like we're all just being sweaty in a room listening to music, Like there's no separation between me and the person standing in front of me. There will be moments where like if we're like we're playing in a club with like twenty five people or whatever, I see a guy walking outside, I'm like, hey you, hey, you come in here, Like what's up? They come in and they're like okay whatever.

9:37 It's just those little moments are the things people remember and like how you treat them after the show, Like if you're walking around too cool, like like, no, no one's too cool, Like you're you're the only reason why you're there is because someone's watching you. So it's it's kind of like that reciprocation of what's important, which is the connection and get that feeling and getting that rush when you're watching a great band or you're in a band that's doing something exciting. It's part of the fun. I love the attitude there too, because you're giving a positive spin to punk rock because I come from the days of the gatekeepers and I was a long hair metal head that loved punk rock and I couldn't go like going to exploit it is like a bucket list for me because I wasn't allowed to go to see them or GBH or Discharge or any of those bands when I was a teenager because I had long hair, and it was like ooh, but you know what, it was stupid. In my high school at like Westlake High and a Goura Hide, there was a small bit of punks and small band metal heads and we both got our asses beat by the jocks. Why didn't we band together? Right?

10:52 And the music so similar? Why didn't we? I was always thinking about this back then, and it's like, why are we like this? It's stupid. So I'm so happy to see today in twenty twenty three, that it is like that and that there's bands like you that are promoting that everyone's welcome. You know, I got right so much stuff as a young girl. You know, you shouldn't be here. You can't be here. You can't go to these shows. That's too dangerous. But no, like, if you come to a detail show, like especially all the ages shows, bring your dad, bring your mom, bring your grandma, bring your kid. Like if you love music and you're excited and you want to have a good time, like you're gonna have a good time, and there's not a single person in this band or hopefully in our audience that is going to bat an eyelash. It's gatekeeping is for gatekeeping, is for insecure people.

11:46 You know that. Yeah, it takes the you know what it does is it's like, okay, so we were to bullied, so you become the bully. And because you were bullied, and that's stupid in my opinion, you know, like, shouldn't you be the one trying to stop that. Not because you were bullied, you're gonna bully somebody else. And it's funny you brought up about girls and like, yeah, from the back of my day, oh, girls weren't supposed to go in the pit. Both in metal and in punk. And I gotta tell you when I go in the pit nowadays, First of all, I think the girls are way more badass in the pit. I'm more worried about them than the guys too. Yes, you got nails and you're not afraid of anything, like it's like you're just Sometimes I'll sit there and watch it. It's like the girls are always the ones having so much more fun in the pit and getting crazy and stuff like that. Well you see these guys with the look on their face like and their arms crossing, like, oh, you know, and it is all about fun that the pit. That's what it's about. It's about having a good time and a community getting together, getting our frustrations on the world out in the pit instead of out in the real world exactly. And we hope we make music that you know, makes people jump around and drive their cars fast, you know, safely. Of course, I think our music represents that that feeling, you know, we always want every song to evoke a feeling, whether it's heartbreak or feeling lost, or feeling energized and excited

13:20 or wanting to you know, go mash around like. The feeling of each song I think is very different on this record. And that's why I find about you know, listening to the new record is that it's got some serious subjects it talks about that could be you know, negative subjects, but makes it in such a fun way that it makes you feel good about the negative crap in your life. Thank you. I think that's a big aim with the lyrics, is like the boat may be sinking, but we're having a party while it's sinking, you know, right, we love it. I think we recognize the responsibility of being an artist that puts out music and puts out uh, you know, things like lyrics and messages and things like that.

14:03 We're very calculated with how we talk about serious subjects and how we present these kind of matters and it comes off as like when we choose the lyrics on the record, But even when we're on stage, we always think about how we're talking to the crowd. Like we have kids in our shows, we have underage people. Like we we try to you know, hold back on half bounds. We try to hold back on like sure, it's never we don't take ourselves too seriously, but we also don't try to take it to the extreme, and you know, make lamee like stuff that could be translated or come off in a bad way that people will get the wrong message. And follow up on that. We try to give people like inspire to do positive things, start a band, pursue music or their own art to pass on their message and things like that. Love it and so and you guys are having a record release party coming up in December. Let's talk about that, Yes, Bottom of the Hill, San Francisco, California, on December fifteenth. The Details will be playing lots of Runaway and some other things, and we're so excited. Bottom of the Hill is another one of those places. It's all ages. The team there is so sweet and wonderful and they always treat bands with respect, they treat audiences with respect, and sounds great in there, and it's always a party. It's all ages, so like kids can come, you can have like a cheeseburger and hang out and come by and talk and it's just a great place. We're very, very excited and privileged to be able to have our show there. Love it and so how do people connect to you guys on socials? On the web,

15:35 check out everything, check out future tour days, Get the album merge all that good stuff pretty much everywhere. So we'd like to call it is our Instagram. That's the ats, tests and the details on Instagram. We're also we're on Facebook, We're on I think we're on TikTok. We're in like all their platform Spotify, Apple Music, band camps, like where everywhere. Just googling us and we're popping off. We make sure to have our you know, our music and our stuff available everywhere that people can see music.

16:15 And if you're in buying one of the vinyls that is behind you, that is on hellomarch dot com. But if you just search tests and the details vinyl, it'll come up and it's ordered and ships straight to you and no no issues. But yeah, you can also get vinyl at our show. So anytime we play, we'll have those available. I'm also kind of big into the artwork of an album, you know, coming from the old school where you actually like paid attention to that and that's how you bought the album, like because you didn't hear what it sounded like. And I instantly, I don't know why, but the colors like registered with me a minute I saw it, and it registered with me to be punk rock, Like immediately I put the association for sure. Thank you. Yeah, oh I'll uh you'll love this. Wow, that is so punk rock too, but that's cool as hell. There's a book with all the lyrics and everything, like, ah, we wanted it to be an experience, like if you're going to spend your card earned money on our record, like you should have something that you can really dive into and connect with. So thank you for that.

17:30 And the artwork was done by at obscurest Vinyl on Instagram, funniest account you'll find. He just makes like these fake seventies album covers. But I saw its work and I'm like, that's damn good artist, Like, let's see if he'd be interested, and he was, so thank you to Glenn, But yeah, this is it's a it's a big piece. So when you get it, there's a lot to dive into. And the art it's part of the details, you know. Yeah, it's very important. I love that you use a word experience because that's what it always was for me. I'd sit on my balcony and put headphones on, get a new album and listen to it like fifty million times in a row, and read the every bit of what was on the album and look at every bit of art and it is a full sensory experience. Thanks that is supported by us.

18:22 So the label that we're working with, Double Helicks, they're amazing people and they're basically aligned with exactly what she said they wanted when we started talking about putting out the vinyl. So they had big plans. They wanted to give like top quality product. They want if people are going to pay for it, they should get, you know, their money like worth. So they really supported us with our vision, aligned with us and what we're looking to deliver. Every they didn't cut corner, they weren't trying to cut costs or anything. They went through like a premium factory to get those printed. Everything went through like quality, crazy quality assurance. And yeah, we made sure that we we we hit a home run with this thing. I just noticed too, Like I didn't even do this on purpose, but I notice that my flash shirt matches your album. It's spreading the details, color schemes is spreading, yeah, right right on stage, like Gideon's drums are like the color of my hair, and my guitar is gold. Like we have nice.

19:22 We don't want to be a band that looks like they're there by accident, where they're on purpose every time. So now we need to have like a tour where the police get together and you guys go on tour with them, and then you guys sing together both your canary song and their canary and a coal mine and you both sing it together sting. If you're out there, give me a call, brother, I'm here, I'm ready. I saw them in nineteen eighty two in la Oingo Boingo Open Up for Him. Also Oingo Boygo played in my gymnasium at Westlake High when I was in ninth grade. Who knew Danny Elfman would be who he is today? Like Wild mister Orchestra, I know right, it's it is wild to me, and so many people don't even know either. They don't know like he's Batman, he's the Simpsons like at every like major movie we would love or show there he is who would figure and playing in my gymnasium, I know, right?

20:37 So there you go, and uh, do you guys have a final words you want to leave the listeners with that we haven't touched on already. I would say thank you to everyone who has listened to the album so far. We're really excited. It just came out a day ago, so you know, I'm I'm still a nervous nelly if people like you or not. But if you if you do like it, don't hesitate to like if you post a video or if you like lip sync to it on TikTok tag me, I'm going to repost it and spread it to the world, like this is our baby. We're so happy that it's out and just thankful that people like you and anybody out there is listening. So yeah, now, if you're in the San Francisco Bay area, or even if you're not, come have a vacation, come see us play at Bottom of the Hill. It's going to be really really fun nice get in a final word, Yeah, it's funny, really really really stoked and excited to be in this position where we released an album. A few days ago. I came across the first email that a mutual friend of ours, Jacob Lyde from Modern Turned Studios, introduced me in tests. He also recorded and produced the album. But I saw the email where he introduced us, and you look back and you see like that email and four years later translated into like this album release and this thing that's happening. Like, dude, sometimes it's so funny too, like when you do these little have little milestones in life, to take them in a look back and see how it all started. And it's so funny that you know how little things, little opportunities, little like chances life's give you

22:11 like evolved to something fun and you just never know, like and it's like if somebody asked you five years ago, you wouldn't imagine, you know, type of thing. And and that's the point. And that's I think that's the message to give everybody, is like, you know, just because you can't see the vision doesn't mean it's not there. No, be yourself, yeah, yeah, be yourself and good things will follow, I think. And finding good people that you trust and you love to work with is probably the most important part of being in a band and the most fun part, because even waiting around and loading in can be fun if you if you you know, love the people you're working with, so exactly. Okay, Well you guys rock and thanks for being on the Adventures of Platement. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's happy to be here. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Platement on W for Cui Radio