PipemanRadio Interviews Tess & The Details

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was born to fight, but not
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holden until light and take a chance
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There, this is the pipe Man
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c Y Radio. Let's welcome to
the show, Testamon details. Hi,

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great, absolutely happy to be here. Thanks for having us on and I'm

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Tess. My name is Gideon.
Pleasure to be here, Thank you for

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inviting us. And we're still that
you you know you like our record,

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dude, Yeah, And I read
something that was what I liked. Also

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was the fact that about standing up
against the establishment, because I kind of

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laugh. It seems my old school
punk rock friends, including bands, are

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all pro establishment, and I scratch
my head all the time. I'm like,

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that was never what punk rock was
about. So I'm glad we have

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a band like you that is doing
it the real way. Still yeah,

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well, I think to us the
establishment is being like everybody else. We

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do our own thing. We don't
want to imitate. We like to take,

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you know, influence from the best
parts of the things that we love

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and then spin it up to make
something new. And Yeah, just being

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yourself and staying true to what you
truly love and not renegging on that for

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for any reason. It is kind
of where we're coming from. I think,

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so tell us both of you,
like, there must have been some

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point in life where you're like,
yes, this is what I need to

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do. There's nothing else I'm gonna
do. I'm just gonna do this.

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Is there a point that you can
remember that that bell went off in your

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head? I can start by saying
that the way I approach this whole playing

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in bands and playing music thing,
it's kind of like a weird ass drug

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addiction. It's not a you know, it's like something you do you fall

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in love. You can go into
like weird ass stories of like the chemicals

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in your brand and in your body
that it encourages, That makes you feel

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good and it makes you want to
do it again by the end of the

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day. It's like an addiction.
It doesn't makes sense though, because it

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cost a lot of money. There's
a lot of heavy shit. You need

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to make a lot of sacrifices,
you need to work really hard. Let

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me tell you a secret. Financially, it doesn't make a ton of sense,

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but it's really fun because you get
to interact with people who are really

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appreciated of your work and enjoy it. So that's fun. As far as

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like the moment that me personally I
realized, hey, this is something I

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do, this is something I fall
in love. Is the moment I realized

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that I played the show in my
early days, like when I was like

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fourteen fifteen years old, and people
came up to me and they're like stoked

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and they were happy. So you
see the impact of your work and you're

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like craft art, I call it
on people, and they're you know,

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they enjoy it, and like,
hey, I got to give you that

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experience or that emotion that I got
when I went to see you know,

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that awesome band that influenced me.
So it's like a you pass on the

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disease in a good way. I
love it. And you know, you

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made a good point about the money
thing, because I say all the time,

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if you're in especially now even more
so than before. If you're in

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this business because you're looking to make
money or become some famous, rich rock

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star, you're on the wrong boat. You better love what you do and

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have a passion for it, because
that's the benefit. Yeah, especially nowadays.

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Honestly, if people have no's for
bullshit and people have a good sense

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for like authenticity and intent behind why
you're doing what you're doing. And I'm

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not saying like, if you'll be
authentic and you'll be honest, like you'll

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make money, no, but definitely, if that's the intent and that's the

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idea, you're definitely not set for
success. So I hope I believe I

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speak for the entire group when I
say, like, our intent with this

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is number one to have fun and
to pass on, you know, positive

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messages and encourage people to do to
do good things. But yeah, basically

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give people a fun experience, a
fun you know, piece of music and

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art to enjoy. There I go, how about you test? I do

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have a weird moment. I was
like, I think ten years old,

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and I grew up in the Midwest, so I didn't have like a big

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DIY punk rock scene around me.
I'm the oldest sibling, so I didn't

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have anybody who was like passing music
down to me. It was like my

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dad having me listen to bir Springsteen, and I was like, this is

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cool. There's telling stories and all
that, but I was I remember very

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vividly getting ready for school one day
an MTV back when MTV had music on,

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Yeah, they would play a series
of music videos and I remember hearing

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the opening rift to American Idiot,
and I remember turning around and going,

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what the what is that? What
is that? I never heard something like

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that in my life. Like I
heard like like Eagles and like the classic

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rock my dad listened to, and
the pop stuff like the Madonnas that like

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my mom listened to. It was
listening to Britney Spears like I didn't know

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anything. I was like guitars,
Like who's that little guy? What is

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he doing? And why? Like
I'm so confused. And I went in

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this big deep dive with the whole
discography. Then I'm like what bands did

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they listen to? And I learned
about like Husker Doo and Freaking the Replacements

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and guy, I got really into
Elvis. Like it just started this like

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shock wave of research. What how
did this get to where it is,

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and that's kind of how I fell
in love with punk rock and d I

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Y and how bands did things and
how bands treated people. And I think

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the big impact that punk had on
me like then when I got into like

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the scene in Cleveland and like started
meeting people in real bands and like being

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an underage teenage girl playing in these
like rock clubs with these bands that like

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we had no business playing with,
but everyone you treated each other with respect,

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and when you're finished with the show, you go to the merch stand

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and you shake people's hands and you
hang out and you talk and you nerd

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out about music. And I think
that was the big impact on me,

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Like the connection between listener and band
there's no wall, And that's kind of

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what that taught me is like,
yeah, this band's bigger than life,

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but they're still bringing a kid on
stage to play guitar with them, Like

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they're still doing the things that make
punk rock special. So I think going

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into that and then getting into like
arena rock after like watching bands like Foo

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Fighters, like making this huge spectacle
out of this thing that can exist in

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a club, that really rubbed off
on me as a young person and something

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we like to bring to our shows
is like, no matter how many people,

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we're playing with, same intensity,
same attention to details, same bullshit

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between songs, same energy, and
the way we give to the crowd and

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they give back. It doesn't matter
how many people are watching, as long

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as everyone's having fun. So yeah, and that connection is key because I

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can tell you I have all the
genres. That's one of the biggest attractstions

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of punk. It's funny because like
I go around and I do radio coverage

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at festivals like all over the world, and last year, how's that hell

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Fest? And the exploited we're playing, And so there's something that a lot

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of punk bands are were always famous
for back in the day that doesn't happen

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so much anymore because you have this
barrier nowadays between like the stage and the

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people. And Wattie was just like, screw it, and he called and

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he told us, He told all
the you know, security, you better

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get out of way. He called
everybody up on stage. And this stage

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okay, was so high, like
I you know, I even as pressed.

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I even went up because I'm like
yes, and but I couldn't get

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up there. People had to pull
you up. It was just like old

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school, you know, and everybody's
pulling you up next thing. You know.

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It's like the security guards, they
didn't leave, they didn't stop.

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Plus they helped us get up there, and it helped us get out and

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down afterwards. But it was like
I was up there with a couple hundred

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people on stage for the last song
and they exploit it, and to me,

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that's punk rock right there. Yeah, there's no uh, there's no

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point in acting too cool for school, Like we're all just being sweaty in

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a room listening to music, Like
there's no separation between me and the person

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standing in front of me. There
will be moments where like if we're like

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we're playing in a club with like
twenty five people or whatever, I see

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a guy walking outside, I'm like, hey you, hey, you come

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in here, Like what's up?
They come in and they're like okay whatever.

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It's just those little moments are the
things people remember and like how you

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treat them after the show, Like
if you're walking around too cool, like

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like, no, no one's too
cool, Like you're you're the only reason

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why you're there is because someone's watching
you. So it's it's kind of like

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that reciprocation of what's important, which
is the connection and get that feeling and

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getting that rush when you're watching a
great band or you're in a band that's

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doing something exciting. It's part of
the fun. I love the attitude there

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too, because you're giving a positive
spin to punk rock because I come from

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the days of the gatekeepers and I
was a long hair metal head that loved

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punk rock and I couldn't go like
going to exploit it is like a bucket

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list for me because I wasn't allowed
to go to see them or GBH or

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Discharge or any of those bands when
I was a teenager because I had long

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hair, and it was like ooh, but you know what, it was

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stupid. In my high school at
like Westlake High and a Goura Hide,

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there was a small bit of punks
and small band metal heads and we both

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got our asses beat by the jocks. Why didn't we band together? Right?

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And the music so similar? Why
didn't we? I was always thinking

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about this back then, and it's
like, why are we like this?

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It's stupid. So I'm so happy
to see today in twenty twenty three,

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that it is like that and that
there's bands like you that are promoting that

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everyone's welcome. You know, I
got right so much stuff as a young

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girl. You know, you shouldn't
be here. You can't be here.

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You can't go to these shows.
That's too dangerous. But no, like,

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if you come to a detail show, like especially all the ages shows,

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bring your dad, bring your mom, bring your grandma, bring your

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kid. Like if you love music
and you're excited and you want to have

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a good time, like you're gonna
have a good time, and there's not

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a single person in this band or
hopefully in our audience that is going to

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bat an eyelash. It's gatekeeping is
for gatekeeping, is for insecure people.

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You know that. Yeah, it
takes the you know what it does is

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it's like, okay, so we
were to bullied, so you become the

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bully. And because you were bullied, and that's stupid in my opinion,

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you know, like, shouldn't you
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Not because you were bullied, you're
gonna bully somebody else. And it's funny

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you brought up about girls and like, yeah, from the back of my

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day, oh, girls weren't supposed
to go in the pit. Both in

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metal and in punk. And I
gotta tell you when I go in the

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pit nowadays, First of all,
I think the girls are way more badass

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in the pit. I'm more worried
about them than the guys too. Yes,

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you got nails and you're not afraid
of anything, like it's like you're

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just Sometimes I'll sit there and watch
it. It's like the girls are always

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the ones having so much more fun
in the pit and getting crazy and stuff

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like that. Well you see these
guys with the look on their face like

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and their arms crossing, like,
oh, you know, and it is

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all about fun that the pit.
That's what it's about. It's about having

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a good time and a community getting
together, getting our frustrations on the world

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out in the pit instead of out
in the real world exactly. And we

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hope we make music that you know, makes people jump around and drive their

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cars fast, you know, safely. Of course, I think our music

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represents that that feeling, you know, we always want every song to evoke

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a feeling, whether it's heartbreak or
feeling lost, or feeling energized and excited

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or wanting to you know, go
mash around like. The feeling of each

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song I think is very different on
this record. And that's why I find

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about you know, listening to the
new record is that it's got some serious

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subjects it talks about that could be
you know, negative subjects, but makes

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it in such a fun way that
it makes you feel good about the negative

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crap in your life. Thank you. I think that's a big aim with

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the lyrics, is like the boat
may be sinking, but we're having a

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party while it's sinking, you know, right, we love it. I

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think we recognize the responsibility of being
an artist that puts out music and puts

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out uh, you know, things
like lyrics and messages and things like that.

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We're very calculated with how we talk
about serious subjects and how we present

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these kind of matters and it comes
off as like when we choose the lyrics

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on the record, But even when
we're on stage, we always think about

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how we're talking to the crowd.
Like we have kids in our shows,

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we have underage people. Like we
we try to you know, hold back

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on half bounds. We try to
hold back on like sure, it's never

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we don't take ourselves too seriously,
but we also don't try to take it

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to the extreme, and you know, make lamee like stuff that could be

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translated or come off in a bad
way that people will get the wrong message.

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And follow up on that. We
try to give people like inspire to

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do positive things, start a band, pursue music or their own art to

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pass on their message and things like
that. Love it and so and you

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guys are having a record release party
coming up in December. Let's talk about

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that, Yes, Bottom of the
Hill, San Francisco, California, on

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December fifteenth. The Details will be
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and we're so excited. Bottom of
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places. It's all ages. The
team there is so sweet and wonderful and

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they always treat bands with respect,
they treat audiences with respect, and sounds

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great in there, and it's always
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like kids can come, you can
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come by and talk and it's just
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excited and privileged to be able to
have our show there. Love it and

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so how do people connect to you
guys on socials? On the web,

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check out everything, check out future
tour days, Get the album merge all

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that good stuff pretty much everywhere.
So we'd like to call it is our

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Instagram. That's the ats, tests
and the details on Instagram. We're also

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we're on Facebook, We're on I
think we're on TikTok. We're in like

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all their platform Spotify, Apple Music, band camps, like where everywhere.

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Just googling us and we're popping off. We make sure to have our you

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know, our music and our stuff
available everywhere that people can see music.

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And if you're in buying one of
the vinyls that is behind you, that

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is on hellomarch dot com. But
if you just search tests and the details

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vinyl, it'll come up and it's
ordered and ships straight to you and no

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no issues. But yeah, you
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So anytime we play, we'll have
those available. I'm also kind of big

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into the artwork of an album,
you know, coming from the old school

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where you actually like paid attention to
that and that's how you bought the album,

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like because you didn't hear what it
sounded like. And I instantly,

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I don't know why, but the
colors like registered with me a minute I

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saw it, and it registered with
me to be punk rock, Like immediately

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I put the association for sure.
Thank you. Yeah, oh I'll uh

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you'll love this. Wow, that
is so punk rock too, but that's

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cool as hell. There's a book
with all the lyrics and everything, like,

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ah, we wanted it to be
an experience, like if you're going

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to spend your card earned money on
our record, like you should have something

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that you can really dive into and
connect with. So thank you for that.

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And the artwork was done by at
obscurest Vinyl on Instagram, funniest account

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you'll find. He just makes like
these fake seventies album covers. But I

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saw its work and I'm like,
that's damn good artist, Like, let's

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see if he'd be interested, and
he was, so thank you to Glenn,

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But yeah, this is it's a
it's a big piece. So when

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you get it, there's a lot
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part of the details, you know. Yeah, it's very important. I

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love that you use a word experience
because that's what it always was for me.

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I'd sit on my balcony and put
headphones on, get a new album

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and listen to it like fifty million
times in a row, and read the

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every bit of what was on the
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and it is a full sensory experience. Thanks that is supported by us.

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So the label that we're working with, Double Helicks, they're amazing people and

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they're basically aligned with exactly what she
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putting out the vinyl. So they
had big plans. They wanted to give

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like top quality product. They want
if people are going to pay for it,

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they should get, you know,
their money like worth. So they

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really supported us with our vision,
aligned with us and what we're looking to

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deliver. Every they didn't cut corner, they weren't trying to cut costs or

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anything. They went through like a
premium factory to get those printed. Everything

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went through like quality, crazy quality
assurance. And yeah, we made sure

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that we we we hit a home
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too, Like I didn't even do
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my flash shirt matches your album.
It's spreading the details, color schemes is

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spreading, yeah, right right on
stage, like Gideon's drums are like the

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color of my hair, and my
guitar is gold. Like we have nice.

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We don't want to be a band
that looks like they're there by accident,

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where they're on purpose every time.
So now we need to have like

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a tour where the police get together
and you guys go on tour with them,

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and then you guys sing together both
your canary song and their canary and

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a coal mine and you both sing
it together sting. If you're out there,

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give me a call, brother,
I'm here, I'm ready. I

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saw them in nineteen eighty two in
la Oingo Boingo Open Up for Him.

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Also Oingo Boygo played in my gymnasium
at Westlake High when I was in ninth

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grade. Who knew Danny Elfman would
be who he is today? Like Wild

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mister Orchestra, I know right,
it's it is wild to me, and

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so many people don't even know either. They don't know like he's Batman,

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he's the Simpsons like at every like
major movie we would love or show there

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he is who would figure and playing
in my gymnasium, I know, right?

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So there you go, and uh, do you guys have a final

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words you want to leave the listeners
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I would say thank you to everyone
who has listened to the album so far.

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We're really excited. It just came
out a day ago, so you

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know, I'm I'm still a nervous
nelly if people like you or not.

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But if you if you do like
it, don't hesitate to like if you

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post a video or if you like
lip sync to it on TikTok tag me,

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I'm going to repost it and spread
it to the world, like this

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is our baby. We're so happy
that it's out and just thankful that people

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like you and anybody out there is
listening. So yeah, now, if

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you're in the San Francisco Bay area, or even if you're not, come

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have a vacation, come see us
play at Bottom of the Hill. It's

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going to be really really fun nice
get in a final word, Yeah,

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it's funny, really really really stoked
and excited to be in this position where

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we released an album. A few
days ago. I came across the first

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email that a mutual friend of ours, Jacob Lyde from Modern Turned Studios,

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introduced me in tests. He also
recorded and produced the album. But I

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saw the email where he introduced us, and you look back and you see

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like that email and four years later
translated into like this album release and this

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thing that's happening. Like, dude, sometimes it's so funny too, like

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when you do these little have little
milestones in life, to take them in

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a look back and see how it
all started. And it's so funny that

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you know how little things, little
opportunities, little like chances life's give you

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like evolved to something fun and you
just never know, like and it's like

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if somebody asked you five years ago, you wouldn't imagine, you know,

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type of thing. And and that's
the point. And that's I think that's

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the message to give everybody, is
like, you know, just because you

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can't see the vision doesn't mean it's
not there. No, be yourself,

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yeah, yeah, be yourself and
good things will follow, I think.

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And finding good people that you trust
and you love to work with is probably

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the most important part of being in
a band and the most fun part,

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because even waiting around and loading in
can be fun if you if you you

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know, love the people you're working
with, so exactly. Okay, Well

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you guys rock and thanks for being
on the Adventures of Platement. Thank you

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so much. Yeah, it's happy
to be here. Thank you for listening

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