June 23, 2026

The Alarm's Final Album Transformation - Jules Honors Mike Peters

The Alarm's Final Album Transformation - Jules Honors Mike Peters
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The Alarm's final album Transformation came out May 29th, The album was made by beloved artist and musician, Mike Peters while he was in treatment for the cancer that ultimately took him. “Mike lived a life of beauty and never gave up right to the very end,” says Jules Peters, bandmate and wife.

Described by Bono of U2 as “the second greatest rock and roll band in the world,” Mike Peters has been the driving force behind The Alarm for over forty creative years of new music making and dedication to presenting the band’s classic songs in ways both imaginative and inventive. A voice of defiance and hope both on and off the stage, Peters first rose to prominence in the early 1980s with The Alarm, whose powerful anthems like "68 Guns" and "Strength" helped define a generation of alternative rock. Known for their empowering anthems and heartfelt lyrics, The Alarm garnered a devoted international following, with Peters' raw vocals and commanding stage presence at the heart of it all, garnering number one rock album chart hits in the USA / UK and 4 albums in the top 10 with Equals, Sigma, Omega and Forwards. During a music career that spanned five decades, Peters performed with some of music’s greatest artists and bands including Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen and U2.

Diagnosed with lymphoma in 1995 and later with chronic lymphocytic leukemia, Peters refused to let his illness silence him. Instead, he turned his fight into a mission to help others.

Alongside his wife Jules, he co-founded Love Hope Strength, a music-driven cancer charity that revolutionized awareness and action around stem cell donation that continues beyond his passing. Through its innovative “Get On The List” campaigns—often hosted at rock concerts and even atop mountains—the charity has added over 400,000 people to the global stem cell registry and helped secure thousands of potential life-saving matches for patients worldwide.

While this may seem like the final chapter for The Alarm, Transformation promises that the legacy of The Alarm will transform into something larger. While Mike has gone out in a blaze of glory, his love, hope and strength continues on. Echoing the title of the new single,

Jules concludes, “Mike and the spirit of The Alarm will ‘Live Today,’ forever more. I invite you all to blast Transformation out loud. Imagine Mike in the room with you. Transformation is his battle cry, his resilient love of life. Right to the very end, Mike believed that he was going to live, to be totally free. My last memory is driving him open top along the North Wales coast road, playing Transformation at maximum volume. He was so happy. So full of life. Playing his air drums, bass guitar, already imagining himself on his next world tour. So keep that positive spirit moving forwards. Imagine him as you all knew him best, striding out on to that stage, changing lives one concert at a time. This is an album of hope and a passionate celebration of a life well lived. Please do not be sad. Mike wouldn’t want that. He was so proud of this album and had the best time recording it during the last six months of his life. Blast it out loud like Mike did. Play along to the track list and most of all, be happy that we all had Mike in our lives and continue to do so. The music of Mike and The Alarm will always keep us strong”.

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Hi, you love done too far censure.

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Fore wow for you young.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with

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our next guest who we spoke a while ago and

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she is a lovely not only artist but person. And

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there's been some changes, but some good changes, a good transformation,

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because we have a new final album by the Alarm.

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So let's welcome to the show. Jules Peters, how are you?

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Thank you for having me. It's a delight to be here.

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I love the name of the album and it's almost

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prophetic because a, I mean, we are going through transformations

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and world anyway. Okay, so it's like the perfect name

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for an album. But of course, you know, as we

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were talking about before, Mike has transformed to another level.

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I'll follow it.

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He's eternally remembered now. And yeah, I think what I

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would like to explain to everyone who is hearing about

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this Final Alarm album, I want them to understand that

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it's a really upbeat, positive album.

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It's the album that Mike wrote, not as his swan.

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Song, because a lot of people possibly might think it's

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very much written as the song that he thought would

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lead him into the next stage of his life. He

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was undergoing a process a treatment called CARTI. Mike had

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been diagnosed with a very aggressive lymphoma called Richter's syndrome.

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Having lived for over thirty years with a blood cancer

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with leukemia chronic lymphacific leukemia. He was all set for

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a big eight week tour of America into Chicago, and

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he discovered this very large lump on his neck. And

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you know, we were used to discovering lumps, That's how

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he was originally diagnosed, so we weren't overtly alarmed if

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you liked by this development. However, within days the hospital

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recognized that this was probably something slightly more sinister, and

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once that was established, we were informed that we could

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not get on that planet America.

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Mike tried to negotiate.

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His way out of it, because when he was originally

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diagnosed with leukemia in ninety five, the first thing he

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did was refusal treatment, and he jumped on a plane

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and we came. We flew into Boston, and we did

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a massive epic acoustic tool of the United States, which

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turned out to be the best thing he'd ever done,

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because he avoided having a stem cell transplant which is

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obviously can be very very traumatic, especially early on in life,

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and he avoided that, and he went into a spontaneous frumission,

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which is a whole other story. This time he thought

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it would just be exactly the same. Let me go

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to America. He pleaded with his doctors, let me go.

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I don't want to disappoint the alarmed family. I don't

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want to disappoint the band and the crew.

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Let me go.

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And they said, Mike, this is a whole different ball going.

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This is called Richter's syndrome. It has two words when

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you google it, paul prognosis. If left untreated, you're dead

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in eight weeks. And that literally was the reality of it.

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So we had to cancel the tool. But Mike in

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that wonderful way Mike had of being extremely confident, very optimistic,

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never dwelling on the negative, always believing that if you

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carry on believing that you've got a chance for change,

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for positive change. And during that last year of his

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life he underwent some very grueling chemotherapy, and then of

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course that led into the month before his death of

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him having car Ti therapy. He had Carte therapy, by

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the way, which is far more popular in the United

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States than it is initially in the United Kingdom, and

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he had that because a stem cell transplant it failed.

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He didn't have a stem cell transplant. He wasn't allowed

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to have a stem cell transplant because the minute they

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stopped giving my treatment, this deadly Richter's syndrome just bounced back.

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With a vengeance.

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So I will I will live forever in awe of

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how Mike managed to just stay calm. And I did

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go to him in a few months before he died,

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when he absolutely believed he was going to be fine,

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by the way, and I said, oh, darling, you know,

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how are you coping with all of this? And he

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just looked at me with big wide eyes. Rock and

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Roll prepared me for this. Rock and roll going through

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all the rejections and knocking on doors and going and

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playing gigs to one minutes over one thousand, next minute,

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just ten people. It built a certain kind of inner

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steel and resilience in Mike that he just never really afraid.

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He certainly wasn't afraid of death. He believed in his doctors.

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And so it's bittersweet for sure, this album, but it's

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more sweet than it is bitter. And he wrote it

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totally free Transformation, because he believed he was transforming. He

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believed that he was transforming into a new life, a

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new chapter of his life where he would be cancer

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free thanks to Carti and he, you know, he grew up.

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He obviously supported Bob Dylan in nineteen eighty eight, the

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year that Mike and I got married, and he would

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see our best man is now Bob Dylan's right hand man,

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John Selwyn Edwards, and he has seen Bob Dylan's the

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same age as my dad.

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He's still rocking. But my dad is still rocking.

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But I can't imagine being on a tour bus every minute,

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you know, walking out on stage and performing. I mean,

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Bob Dylan is incredible, whether you like him or not,

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the physical fact that he's out there rocking. And so

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Mike just saw himself in Bob. You know, he just

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was like, I'm going to spend the next part of

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my life. He loved being on tour in America. You

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know how much Mike loved America. He felt half American.

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I would say the American public game might the strength

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and the confidence when he was a young lad when

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he came over and he did.

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All these interviews. He loved going out and doing the interviews.

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Lots of British artists were more reticent and didn't introuge. Yeah,

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Mike and I thrived on your sort of mindset, positivity,

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give it a go, try, If you fail, it doesn't matter,

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pick yourself back up. We thrived on that, and so

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we kept coming. When we had our babies, we'd come in.

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We'd always spend a month in la in Easter and

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a month in New York in July in the holidays,

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and so our children grew up with that American attitude,

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you know, and we feel really grateful for that, and

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I think so for Mike, it was just positivity, or

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it was if if your situation becomes bad and broken,

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don't sit there wallowing or complaining, do something about it.

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The guy that went to London in nineteen eighty to

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make it, and he'd written his songs and recorded them,

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and when he got there, not long after he'd been

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living there in South London, John Lennon was shot dead.

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I remember that well because I lived in New Jersey

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when that happened.

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In New York.

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Wow, will you gosh, I'm incredible. Well, for Mike, it

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was a pivotal point in his life, as I'm sure

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it was for many that he was set on the tube.

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He saw everyone reading the broad sheets with Lennon is dad.

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All you heard was John Lennon music and Beatles music everywhere.

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And I really had my mic because in that moment

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he said, my songs aren't good enough when he started

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listening to all this incredible music. So you know what

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you did, He smashed it all. Now he closed everything

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up in London. He said to the rest of the band,

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we need to go back to North Wales. We need

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to go and get jobs, make some money, go and

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re record the songs, right, some new songs.

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And that's what he did.

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And I think in your early twenties, that's a lot,

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isn't it, to smash it. Go back to hometown where

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you've got everyone that you grew up with, or you know,

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we all know what hometowns are, like our hometown. They

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loved Mike, but back then it was a bit like

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you know still, you know you still exactly, So I

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think to come home and brave it out, to restart, reboot.

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Mike was always able to do that, and so the

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last year of his life he crammed it. One day

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he was doing hardcolled chemo. The next day he was like,

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book me in the studio. I'm ready to go and

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record my vocals. And you know me as the muse

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and the mother and the wife, not the mother, me

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as the mus and the wife would be like.

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Oh, you sure don't. Don't you think I should take

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you home? No, I'm going to be fine.

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I want because Mike was happiest when he was writing music,

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recording music, or performing music. Take Mike away from that

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and he wasn't as happy, but he was always an upbeat,

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positive guy.

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So I have a lot of.

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Comfort from the fact that Mike lived the last year

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of his life just as he always had them, with confidence, optimism,

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no fear, and he only had two days on this

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earth where he knew he was going to die, and it.

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Was such a shock to him. Bless him. He turned

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to me in the hospital and he said, oh, I

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feel like I've let you down.

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He didn't see it come in. I could see it

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come in a mile off. But for the first time

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in my life, I joke with him. I had to

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fake it. He wanted me to fake optimism and hope.

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I knew the day you got diagnosed that he wasn't

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going to make it. I just knew instinct. So for

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the whole last year I just had to fake it

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with him and be upbeat and smile when inside my heart.

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Was absolutely breaking.

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So you know, just over it's over just over two

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years since Mike was diagnosed, but so for me, it's

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been extremely traumatic, and you know, I struggled to listen

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to the album. I think I said to you really

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with Mike had set these four shows. He called them

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the listening Party, where he was planning to present Transformation

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to his most ardent, loyal fans who would coming to

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our pub next door. This is where Mike did a

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lot of his recordings where I'm sat now having the interview,

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and he believed that he was.

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Going to present the album. So he died in the

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last week of April.

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And in May, me and the kids and a record producer,

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we were all their face vent into this incredible audience

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of Alarm lovers and we just sobbed and cried and

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laughed our way through listening to this album. You know,

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it was the most hardcore, brutal grief therapy.

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So I don't think.

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There's ever been like an audience and a band over

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a death that have come together so quickly after a death,

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and we've just kind of carried on doing it.

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I'm lucky. I joke.

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Where I am is the village where Mike was born,

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is the village where Mike died, is the village where

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he lived, raised his children. And he's buried just opposite.

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So every day I walk down here or drive down here.

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I only live a mile at the road. He's buried

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right there. We didn't even have the conversation of where

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he was going to be buried because guess what, he

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didn't think he was going to die, So I had

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all that to contend with, finding deciding what to do.

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You know, I knew it was going to be cremation.

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That was about it. But I'm happy to report and

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you can go and watch it. If anyone's listening to this,

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you can go and watch the funeral. Please go watch

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the funeral. It's a really positive watch. We got about

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twenty I didn't want one long, laborious eulogy. We all

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knew how incredible Might was. But what I wanted was

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like a really upbeat summary of his life. He was

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so much more than sixty eight guns or the stands.

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That was a massive part of who he was. But

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he was, you know, he had ran his charity, he

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was a father, he was a great business many he loved,

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He was so many more things. He wrote walk for

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every boy his side. He did all these songs right

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up to his death. You know, he sun with choirs orchestras.

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So by getting twenty different people, it was like, I

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haven't done speed dating, but I guess it's what speed

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dating was like. Funeral eulogy speed dating. And they would

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come on one by one and a two minute. We

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had a politician. He talked about all of Mike's kind

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of political and charitable works, and it was wonderful. I

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thoroughly enjoyed his funeral. How weird is that? But I

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wanted to give him the best standoff. And I think,

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as you know, I'm not living my life through Mike

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at all. I've been with him since I was nineteen

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and now fifty nine. It's a long long time to

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live with. He was the most amazing, exciting man to

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be married too. He was kind, he was decent, He

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cared about other people, He cared about my mates.

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He'd do anything for anyone.

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And that's why four thousand people attended his funeral, because

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he talked to everyone. He never took himself tea seriously,

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you know, he was humble. He spoke to the guy

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walking his dog on the other side of the street.

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So they all came out and we said to everyone,

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try to leave your car behind Hike for Mike. So

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on the Davis funeral, and I just said, come as

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you are, Nirvana style.

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Just wear whatever you want.

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If you want to dress fancy, dress fancy, if you

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want to just wear a T shirt and a long

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T shirt, do whatever the fuck you want.

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Just come and celebrate the great man.

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And so they came in over the mountains and down

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into our beautiful little village, you know.

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And I think that's how I'm busy.

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You know, I've got the red, I've got here, I've

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got I'm a concert promoter. Me and Mike were always

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like punk rockers who've come up with an idea in

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the pub over a pike, But the next morning would

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be up and out and never lazy, always busy. And

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that is just how I'm continuing in my grief because

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that's how he want me to be.

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But I'm very determined.

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To preserve his legacy, to let the whole world know,

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you know, what an incredible guy he was, what incredible

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performer he was. And so we start really with Transformation.

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He was so proud of this album. He wanted me

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to get it out there to everybody. He was planning

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to tour the ass out.

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Of it across America.

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We were just going to hire a big tour bus

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and it was going to be him his ginormous pedal board,

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which he loved, where he would kick in his like

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fake band behind him. It would be completely free, totally free,

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with me maybe jumping on and playing a few keys.

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You know.

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I was dragged in.

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To play keyboards in ninety one because I'd always played

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classical piano.

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But I was reluctant because I'm.

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Like, oh no, the Alarm Pands are going to kill me,

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you know, Yoko and Linda and my god, if you're

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not going to do it for that reason, I'm disappointed

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in you. So I was like, Okay, up for the challenge,

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and so I started playing keys from ninety one ninety two,

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and the Alarm Pands just generally embraced me.

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You know.

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So my best mates are Alarm fans. I grew up

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on tour, either on stage or in the audience. You know,

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i'd have tapped on your shoulder, Dean and said please,

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can you Well, you didn't do it so much in America,

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but in the U it was a bit more rowdy.

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Down the front, you know, And I loved.

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Being in the moshpit, but I like being on people's shoulders,

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so I would just tap on people's shoulders, get yanked

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up onto the shoulders, and then pop up right in

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front of Mike and be almost eye to eye to

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surprise him. So, you know, I've been so fortunate to

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travel the world in a band since I was nineteen,

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and I when Mike died, I thought that that was

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going to be the end for me. And in a

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weird way, even before Mike died, I think I felt

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like I was maybe ready to hang at my suitcase.

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But the story continues because I've just come back from

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Scotland and my youngest ever is stepping into the shoes

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of Mike Peters and leading the Alarm, presenting the Alarm songs.

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So I never thought I'd be saying this, but I've

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just been on the road of my son going out

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singing Alarm songs from nineteen eighty one right the way

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through to twenty twenty six. And it's insane, you know,

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it's and Evan is like the ultimately arm fun because his.

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First ever Alarm event was at.

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Three months old in New York when Mike's play gig

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on top of the Empire State Building.

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So Evan's got it in his DNA. It's insane.

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He sounds like Mike, he looks like Mike. I don't

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want him to live his life through Mike at all,

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but it's his decision.

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You know.

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He just wants to get on the road and play

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the songs. So we'll see see where that journey takes us.

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Well, you know, all you're saying just proves that he

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was a true artist, because few things one is like

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I find an interviewing artists, the ones that are like

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truly the icons. They have no idea that they're a

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rock star, like because that's not what they set out

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to do. They just love music so much. And then

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you know, I think of Ozzy, you know, Ozzie, like

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he went out with a bang, because you know, I

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always used to say that if Ozzie ever stopped performing

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kept trying to get him to retire. I'm like, if

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you ever stopped performing, that would be it. It would

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be over, because that was who he was. And you know,

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it's the same thing here, Mike. That's who he was.

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That's and music is the best therapy.

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Listen.

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You know it's funny you're talking about yeah, and it

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reminds me of a couple of stories.

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But like, same thing with me.

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Like sometimes I'll bring my daughter to festivals when I'm

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on tour covering the vessels, and she's like, Dad, I'll

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know how you do this Every weekend, I'm already done

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and it's like halfway through the first day, you know, but.

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I don't know how. I don't like it.

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Like even when I miss one, it's like I have

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this serious fomo that oh my god, I was supposed

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to be there and I'm not there.

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I missed it.

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And then you know, you're talking about you know how

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how uh you know, punk and metal and stuff like

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that was back in the day, and it was true

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because I lived in la and you know, I always

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wanted to come to England because that was the true

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punk scene.

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But it was funny.

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I was doing the festival before download like I just

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did download before. That was at Milwaukee Metal Fest and

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this band played that their their show was just like

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things I remembered back in the day. And so I

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took a video and I sent it to my daughter

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and it was so funny because there were like all

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these stage divers and everything, and she's like, oh, is

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that how you knocked out all your front teeth. I'm like, yeah,

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except I climbed up on Marshall Stack in Swanda, so

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it was a little harrier, you know, And.

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But it is the best therapy.

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You get stuff out, like you and I have talked

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before about yeah.

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Yeah, you when you analyze the gig, like I said,

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just four shows in Scotland in a week, but all

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of us, we fit all of us on in the

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touring party. There's a routine to it, build up and

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anticipation and we're all there gathering together and assembly of

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generally like minded people. It's the biggest buzz feeling life

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and I don't want to grow old and not have

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that feeling.

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And Mike didn't, you know, That's why he would have

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just kept and he did.

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He carried on performing right to the very end, and

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you know, for all of us music people that have

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grown out the way you would describe it. We just

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need to keep on doing that, keep on, like my

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dad likes to say, keep on rocking in the free world.

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That's right, that's right.

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And even the song lived today Again, I could be prophetic,

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you could deem it as prophetic, but it is how

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Mike lived. It's how I think you are living right now,

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and I think it's.

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The way you should live.

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Like you never know, like I live life to force

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every single day because you never know. You're not promised tomorrow,

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you know, and might as well point.

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You know, I think obviously we're talking about grief in

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all of this that you know you can't there's no

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point in me getting sad, and I do. I obviously do,

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but I'm learning to. I'm learning to navigate it and

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control that feeling. If I see an old couple walking

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ahead of me, I get a flicker of that's not

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going to be me with Mike.

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You know.

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It's a ridiculous you to have, but I'll admit I

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do have it. But I'm learning to go well. Like

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you just said, tomorrow is not a given. I might,

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I might, You know, my Breastcunser might come back in

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a few years. Who knows that we're all in the

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same boat. None of us know what's going to happen.

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And it's dead easy to say it, but you have

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got to try not to worry too much about what's

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going to happen in the future. And you know, I

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feel like I've been at the edge of the abyss.

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That's the only way you can describe it.

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The abyss when you the love of your life dies

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and you're with them. I held Mike's hand as he died. Yeah,

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I'll never ever recover from that, but I will always

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remember that I've had this big love. Thank God, I'm

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grieving so hard because it's just is demonstrative of the

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big love that I had. And if I wasn't feeling

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this annihilated, I think is the only way.

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You know.

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In the morning, I'm annihilated. But give me twenty minutes,

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twenty five minutes and I start to flower and I

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head out across the threshold. Remember that I'm the lucky

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one to be able to breathe. You know that's micro

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song called Breathe. I breathe the air. I watched the

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sun rise and fall in twenty four hours. And when

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I'm feeling so fucking upset that he's not by my side,

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I give myself a bit of a slap. There's notssing

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wrong with the British stiff epolipication, a bit of resilience

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and a bit of I seem to be surrounded by

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a lot of men who were all in my team

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and you know, working on the alarm archive on the tour,

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and they're great. They're such good mentals to me. They

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allow me to be upset. I'm not saying to clamp

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down on your upset, not at all. I cry, and

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I scream, and I do lots of for fuck's sakes.

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But they are also very good at just going right. Okay,

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they're quite pragmatic, quite have perspective. Okay, get back on

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the horse. Now, come on, let's keep going. No time

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for looking back and being sad onwards. Forwards we go,

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and I know that I survive much better by adopting

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that strategy.

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And there is an element if you've.

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Almost got to be an actress in your own life

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to get through this intense grief. I keep my eye

445
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.000
firmly ahead on the horizon. I know I'm going to

446
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:42.039
feel shit again tomorrow morning, but I know that it

447
00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:44.079
will get easier, it will get genller.

448
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:48.119
Well it has You're doing this smart thing is like

449
00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:54.240
still living today punintended, you know, because that distracts you

450
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:58.240
because if like that twenty five minutes. It's interesting to

451
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:01.039
say that because I am a firm believer of like

452
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:05.640
you know, as a very positive, motivational type person. That

453
00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:09.920
doesn't mean that you never get upset, you never get angry,

454
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.799
you never get sad. It's how long you let it

455
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:16.559
affect you and affect your life, okay, And so like

456
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:19.480
I like when you say okay for twenty five minutes,

457
00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.680
because it's normal that you should. It would be abnormal

458
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.680
if you didn't have some sadness, some grief. But then

459
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.079
it's like pull up the bootstraps and let me do

460
00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:31.000
what I got to do to get through day.

461
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.480
And you know Mike's there with you through it day.

462
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.039
I don't need peffy eyes to add to my woes.

463
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:43.160
Exactly right, especially at this stage of life. As little

464
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.640
of the puffiness in our eyes, the better.

465
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:48.799
You know.

466
00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.200
And you know it is interesting too. It's all who

467
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.759
you surround yourself with. Because we were talking about that

468
00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.240
before the interview. It's like, you know, people are are

469
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.960
either supportive or they don't get it one or the other,

470
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:08.839
you know, like or you know, like I've had scenarios

471
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.720
where my own kids will be like, you know, they'll

472
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.240
want you to be sadder, or they'll want you to

473
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.440
be feel less healthy if you you know, if you've

474
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.880
gone through stuff, and it's like it's like, no, that's

475
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.359
what makes me feel live. Like I have one daughter

476
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:26.920
and I she'll be like, are you sure you should

477
00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:27.519
be doing that?

478
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.400
Yes, I am absolutely sure I should be doing.

479
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.920
That, Okay, because if I weren't, then I probably would

480
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:34.880
have a heart attack, you know type of thing.

481
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.559
And I don't with my lads, and my son's still

482
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.759
in Levan, who run the business by the way, you know,

483
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.400
when Evan isn't on tool, he's in he's like the

484
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.799
food fighters. He's either onto or he's cheffing in the

485
00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:49.920
coffee shop. He cooks all right, So we all work

486
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.039
together and live together. It's a beautiful thing.

487
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:52.240
You know.

488
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:52.759
I'm lucky.

489
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.640
But they sometimes I'm like, oh, you seem to be

490
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:01.680
dealing with the grief of your father extremely well. Yeah,

491
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.640
it's almost like I have a moment of oh God,

492
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.400
I'm not going to say the word jealousy because I

493
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:08.599
don't get jealous.

494
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.279
I'm just like, how are you dealing with it so well?

495
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:13.160
When I'm like grief stricken.

496
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.960
And then we laugh and they're like, Mum, we're dealing

497
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.240
with it so well because you've been a really good

498
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.799
mum and you're managing as well so that we are

499
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.480
not on the floor. We're staying confident and at like

500
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.839
Dad is. And I'm like, yeah, that's why you are.

501
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.400
I don't need to see them looking upset. They are

502
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:37.079
generally plowing the way forwards. So yeah, it's like I said,

503
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:38.839
we need to do a whole of the Grief podcast

504
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:39.839
about death.

505
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.160
And grief, no doubt, and how music helps too. Like

506
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.680
when my grandson passed away, I got a call in

507
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.960
the middle of the festival. I left for the funeral,

508
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:53.880
dealt with that and then went back and it was

509
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:57.920
the first time Slayer was playing in five years, and

510
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.079
I went into the marsh pit and that's where I

511
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.359
put my That's where I put my grief in the

512
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.000
marsh pit, you know, like, you know, it doesn't mean

513
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.400
you don't have other grief and stuff like that, but

514
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.119
you need to have coping skills and distract yourself. And

515
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.759
I think music is one of the best distractions you

516
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.119
could ever have and best therapy you could ever have.

517
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.880
I think it's foot on leading. I think you could

518
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:24.119
think about becoming a grief therapist, you know. I think

519
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:24.960
you'd be quite good.

520
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:26.680
Yeah, there and there you go.

521
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.000
Well, like you said, you and I have to do

522
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.400
like a grief bought podcast because there are a lot

523
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.680
of people dealing with it nowadays, especially at our stage life.

524
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.920
I feel like people are dropping like flies.

525
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.000
Around me, you know, and then and then you have

526
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:46.039
that realization of wait on that age too, Oh crap.

527
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:48.880
I think really healthy because you know, when Mike was

528
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.039
diagnosed with leukemia, I was only twenty nine and I

529
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.400
all I wanted was to hear a little story, a

530
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.559
little pick me up story about Oh, I know somebody

531
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.680
who got diagnosed with in their theaties and guess what,

532
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.480
they've gone on to live a great life.

533
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.559
It's going to be hard, it's not going to be easy.

534
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.119
It's going to be non.

535
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.960
Sugarcoated tough, but you'll get through it as all. If

536
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.279
someone could have just said that to me, I'd be like, right, Okay,

537
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.039
head down forwards we go.

538
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.319
And it's the same with grief. You just told me

539
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:17.079
about your friend.

540
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.200
If we could our age group, the more we stay together,

541
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.839
we keep stronger, and people will go. We have to

542
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.160
accept that we're on this one way ticket and that

543
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.240
from now on, like you just said, people are going

544
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:29.400
to be dropping like flies.

545
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.519
But not to be afraid.

546
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.599
I get couples coming to me, bless them, come into

547
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:36.960
the red and they see my story.

548
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:37.160
You know.

549
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.279
I joke that it's like someone came up beside me

550
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.759
at the edge of the abyss gave me a big,

551
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.720
almighty shove. I fell, like slow mo. This is our

552
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:51.000
Mike's death into the abyss, trying to keep my head

553
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:54.440
above water. Start swimming towards that shore or do you

554
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.519
want to go swim into that shore? Do I even

555
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.920
want to be you know, this is what you go through.

556
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:00.839
Do you want to even be here when you've lost

557
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.839
a lover of your life? Well, of course I do,

558
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.680
because I've got my children and I've got a lot

559
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.960
to live for. But all those things go through your

560
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.920
head in those first hard times of grief.

561
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.359
But I've kept on swimming.

562
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.319
I think I've pulled myself out of the abyss and

563
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.400
I'm on the shore over on this other side without

564
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.319
my whole new world for me. But I think what

565
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.039
I'm finding because I'm so brutally open about what this

566
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.440
journey is like, really to help myself, you know, from

567
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.519
a selfish point of view. I write about it every

568
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.839
day and then people come in and give me tips.

569
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.680
But people are watching it behind me, following me, and

570
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.519
they're knowing that at some point it's them or their partner.

571
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.640
We'll be going through it, hopefully when they're in the eighties.

572
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.400
I hope for their sake. But I think I'm giving

573
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.559
people hope that you've got to accept that we're not

574
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.440
going to live forever. Just like Mike said, live today,

575
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:00.599
we are all going to die, and if we have

576
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.319
a try and have a healthier relationship with death, I

577
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.079
do believe. You know, it's not there's so many religious

578
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.000
people out there, but for my experience, you know, we

579
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:13.000
don't really go to church much, and there are people

580
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.160
that go to church, but you know, we bought the

581
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.519
church from the congregation because the congregation dwindled. Just saying

582
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.519
so you know, from my experience, I used to go

583
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.440
to church when I was little then I stopped going

584
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.279
to church, So suddenly you find yourself in the graveyard

585
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.640
burying Mike. It's a massive shock. Whereas I think if

586
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.720
we were all a bit more in churches each week,

587
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.039
we were more in tune with death, weren't we years ago?

588
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.960
Whereas now I just completely step away from death. So

589
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.400
when it does happen, it comes as an almighty shock

590
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.160
for everybody.

591
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:49.440
We're not prepared for it.

592
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:51.720
But I think from a certain age, and I'm going

593
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.279
to say sixty because I'm going to be six, I

594
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.400
think from there on you need to just talk about it,

595
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.000
maybe make a plan makes so you will is thoughted,

596
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.559
say what you want, whether you want a funeral or

597
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.079
you don't want a funeral, Just.

598
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:06.720
Be a bit more open about it. You don't have

599
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.960
to talk about it all the time. But I think

600
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.519
you can enjoy the rest of your life when you

601
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.319
just let it go a little bit and accept that

602
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.519
we're not going to live forever, and for that point,

603
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.039
just live your best life and step away from anyone

604
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.440
that doesn't make you feel good. You don't have to

605
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.799
be the same people pleaser.

606
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.200
That we all have to be a little bit when

607
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.519
we're younger and we're trying to make it and you

608
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.559
have to deal with assholes that you don't like.

609
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.119
You'd rather just this, but path it's only get to

610
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:35.720
our age.

611
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.039
Okay, maybe you still have to do a bit people

612
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.160
please and guess what, most of us want to just

613
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.880
be nice people pleasers. But I would say, you know,

614
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.559
from the age of sixty onwards, just if.

615
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.880
People make it make you feel not the best.

616
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.119
If they if you've walked away from that conversation and

617
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.640
they're not making you feel like the best version of yourself,

618
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.359
walk away, step away.

619
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.440
Because at the end of the day, everybody does what

620
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.400
they want to do, and we do spend our life

621
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:06.480
people pleasing, and then you get to this stage and

622
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.400
you realize, listen, I have to please myself. And I

623
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:13.440
think that's what Lived Today also means. You know, that's

624
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:17.279
the Transformation too, in my opinion, you know, stop being

625
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.039
people pleaser and start.

626
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.759
Being a you pleaser. That's what comes down to me. Right.

627
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:28.160
So you have another interview and I could talk to

628
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:33.680
you forever, but now everybody has to check out the

629
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:38.319
new album Transformation, and I have to tell you you

630
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.960
have to check out the video because you know this

631
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:47.440
video for Live Today where I was watching him, and

632
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.480
you would never think that would be the final video.

633
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:54.119
He had so much life in that video, and you know,

634
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.599
kudos to him. He's an example to everybody of how

635
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.039
not only you should live life, but how you should

636
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.519
deal with things in life and always live for today.

637
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.000
And I thank I thank you for you know, during

638
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.480
this hard time, to keep this legacy going and to

639
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:20.720
talk here about it because one of the best artists

640
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.359
and bands of all time and it will not only

641
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.000
live today but will live forever. And I thank you

642
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.119
for that. And thanks for being on the Adventures of

643
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.160
Pipe Man once again.

644
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.920
Oh thank you so much for having me. Thanks to

645
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.319
everyone for listening. We will be back. I haven't been

646
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.079
to America for two years, so that's part of my life,

647
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.559
so I'll be back, hopefully with you. Evan Peter's spreading

648
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.920
the word of the alarm. So thanks for listening, and

649
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.480
thanks for caring and loving Mike. That's helping us more

650
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:50.079
than you'll ever know.

651
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.160
Thank you, thank you, and I can't wait until you're

652
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:55.160
hearing the stays.

653
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:02.640
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipment on

654
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.039
w for CUI Radio.